Can HIV positive guy engaged legal GL WL?

[cocky1234]

Just curious, can HIV positive guy engaged with legal GL WL ?

By law, they need to disclose to their partners if they are hiv positive.

How about them patronize legal house then?

[Roch01]

Just curious, can HIV positive guy engaged with legal GL WL ?

By law, they need to disclose to their partners if they are hiv positive.

How about them patronize legal house then?

Hehe what kind of question is this. Of cos its an offence la

[Big Sexy]

WL are normal people and have their rights too .. so why would they be exempted from protection under the Infectious diseases act?

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the law says..

more at https://sso.agc.gov.sg/Act/IDA1976?ValidDate=20160928&ProvIds=P1IV-

A person who knows that he has AIDS or HIV Infection shall not engage in any sexual activity with another person unless, before the sexual activity takes place —

(a) he has informed that other person of the risk of contracting AIDS or HIV Infection from him; and
(b) that other person has voluntarily agreed to accept that risk.

(2) A person who does not know that he has AIDS or HIV Infection, but who has reason to believe that he has, or has been exposed to a significant risk of contracting, AIDS or HIV Infection shall not engage in any sexual activity with another person unless —

(a) before the sexual activity takes place he informs that other person of the risk of contracting AIDS or HIV Infection from him and that other person voluntarily agrees to accept that risk;
(b) he has undergone the necessary serological or other test and has ascertained that he does not have AIDS or HIV Infection at the time of the sexual activity; or
(c) during the sexual activity, he takes reasonable precautions to ensure that he does not expose that other person to the risk of contracting AIDS or HIV Infection.

(3) Any person who contravenes subsection (1) or (2) shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding $50,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 10 years or to both.

(4) For the purposes of this section, a person shall not, only by reason of age, be presumed incapable of engaging in sexual activity.

(5) For the purposes of this section, a person shall be deemed to know that he has AIDS or HIV Infection if a serological test or other test for the purpose of ascertaining the presence of HIV Infection carried out on him has given a positive result and the result has been communicated to him.

(6) No prosecution shall be instituted for an offence under subsection (2) except with the written consent of the Public Prosecutor, but a person charged with such an offence may be arrested and be remanded in custody or released on bail notwithstanding that the consent of the Public Prosecutor to the institution of a prosecution for the offence has not been obtained, except that the case shall not be further prosecuted until that consent of the Public Prosecutor has been obtained.
[15/2010 wef 02/01/2011]

(7) In this section, “sexual activity” means —
(a) sexual activity occasioned by the introduction into the vagina, anus or mouth of any person of any part of the penis of another person; or
(b) cunnilingus.


Just curious, can HIV positive guy engaged with legal GL WL ?

By law, they need to disclose to their partners if they are hiv positive.

How about them patronize legal house then?

[cocky1234]

WL are normal people and have their rights too .. so why would they be exempted from protection under the Infectious diseases act?

===============

the law says..

more at https://sso.agc.gov.sg/Act/IDA1976?ValidDate=20160928&ProvIds=P1IV-

A person who knows that he has AIDS or HIV Infection shall not engage in any sexual activity with another person unless, before the sexual activity takes place —

(a) he has informed that other person of the risk of contracting AIDS or HIV Infection from him; and
(b) that other person has voluntarily agreed to accept that risk.

(2) A person who does not know that he has AIDS or HIV Infection, but who has reason to believe that he has, or has been exposed to a significant risk of contracting, AIDS or HIV Infection shall not engage in any sexual activity with another person unless —

(a) before the sexual activity takes place he informs that other person of the risk of contracting AIDS or HIV Infection from him and that other person voluntarily agrees to accept that risk;
(b) he has undergone the necessary serological or other test and has ascertained that he does not have AIDS or HIV Infection at the time of the sexual activity; or
(c) during the sexual activity, he takes reasonable precautions to ensure that he does not expose that other person to the risk of contracting AIDS or HIV Infection.

(3) Any person who contravenes subsection (1) or (2) shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding $50,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 10 years or to both.

(4) For the purposes of this section, a person shall not, only by reason of age, be presumed incapable of engaging in sexual activity.

(5) For the purposes of this section, a person shall be deemed to know that he has AIDS or HIV Infection if a serological test or other test for the purpose of ascertaining the presence of HIV Infection carried out on him has given a positive result and the result has been communicated to him.

(6) No prosecution shall be instituted for an offence under subsection (2) except with the written consent of the Public Prosecutor, but a person charged with such an offence may be arrested and be remanded in custody or released on bail notwithstanding that the consent of the Public Prosecutor to the institution of a prosecution for the offence has not been obtained, except that the case shall not be further prosecuted until that consent of the Public Prosecutor has been obtained.
[15/2010 wef 02/01/2011]

(7) In this section, “sexual activity” means —
(a) sexual activity occasioned by the introduction into the vagina, anus or mouth of any person of any part of the penis of another person; or
(b) cunnilingus.

Hi bro sexy,
Thanks for your info. But HIV infected guy also human wor. He also need to release his sexual urge.

I just heard from a guy, he will find WL to release because that's the easiest way he can find sex.🤐

He will find those WL that allows BBBJ because he likes it. Damn, i know oral sex for HIV transmission is low, but thats scary sia

[Big Sexy]

i am not saying that a HIV positive person isnt entitled to satisfy his sexual needs... what i am saying is that the law will require him to inform the gal beforehand of his HIV positive status and if the gal is fine with it.. then there will be no issue there...:)

Hi bro sexy,
Thanks for your info. But HIV infected guy also human wor. He also need to release his sexual urge.

I just heard from a guy, he will find WL to release because that's the easiest way he can find sex.��

He will find those WL that allows BBBJ because he likes it. Damn, i know oral sex for HIV transmission is low, but thats scary sia

[cqueen]

Hi bro sexy,
Thanks for your info. But HIV infected guy also human wor. He also need to release his sexual urge.

I just heard from a guy, he will find WL to release because that's the easiest way he can find sex.🤐

He will find those WL that allows BBBJ because he likes it. Damn, i know oral sex for HIV transmission is low, but thats scary sia

The issue here is about ethnical responsibility. It is not about his “entitlement” to satisfy his urge without the ethnical responsibility to allow the legal FL to make a well informed decision to risk her right to live, suffer and die by entering into this HIV transactional monetary sex.

A legal GL FL is one who is legally monitored and supervised with health and safety regulations for the comfort and well being of her clients. It does not mean that they are “legally” allowed to be exposed to HIV without their due knowledge and consent. After all, they deserve the right to live and live well like anyone else!

[IAmAwesome]

WL are normal people and have their rights too

Very well said could not agree more with you :cool:

[cleyeo]

Just curious, can HIV positive guy engaged with legal GL WL ?

By law, they need to disclose to their partners if they are hiv positive.

How about them patronize legal house then?

By law if you are in Singapore.
Some other countries do not have such law, even there is, they are not really implemented.

[Geylang1969]

By law if you are in Singapore.
Some other countries do not have such law, even there is, they are not really implemented.

But how is that law enforced in GL? If an HIV person does not inform girl and engage in sex with bbbj who is to monitor it and make him liable?

[Konnichiwawa]

there is a loop hole in law, therefore many Wasabibi DiDi
like go look for WL/FL even if they know their Didi have Wasabibi


But how is that law enforced in GL? If an HIV person does not inform girl and engage in sex with bbbj who is to monitor it and make him liable?

[Big Sexy]

how is it a loophole?

laws are there to deter and regulate behaviors. it does not guarantee that one will not break the law.. it does not need to place a policeman 24/7 there inorder to prevent crime from happening..

u are free to do what u want and face the consequences..
abit like freedom of speech.. you says whatever u want and be responsible for it...

But how is that law enforced in GL? If an HIV person does not inform girl and engage in sex with bbbj who is to monitor it and make him liable?

there is a loop hole in law, therefore many Wasabibi DiDi
like go look for WL/FL even if they know their Didi have Wasabibi

[sammyboyfor]

there is a loop hole in law, therefore many Wasabibi DiDi
like go look for WL/FL even if they know their Didi have Wasabibi

You are not using the term "loophole" correctly.

A loophole in the law is a mistake made in phrasing the law which allows people to get away with committing an act that is supposedly illegal.

You are talking about "enforcing" the law. There are two primary ways to prevent laws from being broken.

1. Heavy enforcement eg traffic laws... lots of cops on the road, speed cameras, video monitoring 24/7 etc.

2. Severe penalties if caught. EG income tax laws. IRD does not go from house to house demanding proof of your tax declarations. However audits are done and if you are fount out the penalties are jail terms of considerable length.

The laws regarding HIV status fall into category 2. There are no policemen at the geylang houses doing spot checks. However should you be found to have not declared your HIV+ status you're in big trouble should you be caught because of bad luck.

EG you collapse after a fuck in a geylang house and are rushed to hospital. During treatment they discover that you are HIV positive. Detectives are sent to find the whore you fucked and during questioning it is found that you never mentioned your status. This will result in you becoming a criminal as well as a patient.

[Konnichiwawa]

bro
There a big loopHOLE cos there no registration of IC/passport for any Washabibi DiDI who book session for WL/FL. So how to caught？


how is it a loophole?

laws are there to deter and regulate behaviors. it does not guarantee that one will not break the law.. it does not need to place a policeman 24/7 there inorder to prevent crime from happening..

u are free to do what u want and face the consequences..
abit like freedom of speech.. you says whatever u want and be responsible for it...

[sammyboyfor]

bro
There a big loopHOLE cos there no registration of IC/passport for any Washabibi DiDI who book session for WL/FL. So how to caught？

I already explained how one could get caught.

[Konnichiwawa]

For so many many years there is no case of any Washabibi DiDi being charge for not informing wl/fl about his DiDi have washabibi. There mean a loophole.



I already explained how one could get caught.

[bonk69]

For so many many years there is no case of any Washabibi DiDi being charge for not informing wl/fl about his DiDi have washabibi. There mean a loophole.

Because if they wear a condom correctly then virus will not spread or is at minimum. Provided the house practise clean environment for their customer.

Yes if you purposely pull out condom consequence in spreading in wasabibi at a cost. Dun forget island wide cctvs are deployed to deter crime scene.

[Konnichiwawa]

bro
Many Wasahabibi DiDi no wear comdom and Wasabibi flying everywhere, some Naughty Wasahabibi DiDi even play magic where Now you see comdom now you don't.

The moral of story is many DiDi join membership to be Wasa Wasa WAsahabibi DiDi


Because if they wear a condom correctly then virus will not spread or is at minimum. Provided the house practise clean environment for their customer.

Yes if you purposely pull out condom consequence in spreading in wasabibi at a cost. Dun forget island wide cctvs are deployed to deter crime scene.

[IAmAwesome]

Because if they wear a condom correctly then virus will not spread or is at minimum

Correct thats why its always a very good idea to wear protection and never raw even if its a person you know well

[Konnichiwawa]

bro
It is verY easy to say wear comdom properly. but when yr DiDi see a snowwhite wl with pink colour pussy...yr DiDi become wasahahabibi DiDi loh


Correct thats why its always a very good idea to wear protection and never raw even if its a person you know well

[Geylang1969]

You are not using the term "loophole" correctly.

The laws regarding HIV status fall into category 2. There are no policemen at the geylang houses doing spot checks. However should you be found to have not declared your HIV+ status you're in big trouble should you be caught because of bad luck.

EG you collapse after a fuck in a geylang house and are rushed to hospital. During treatment they discover that you are HIV positive. Detectives are sent to find the whore you fucked and during questioning it is found that you never mentioned your status. This will result in you becoming a criminal as well as a patient.

Well, the scenario you suggested above, customer collapsing at brothel and later discovered as HIV+ is a good one. In fact I cannot think of many other scenarios where HIV status of a customer would be detected..Means, an HIV person can fuck hundreds of times like anyone of us and as long as no collapse at brothel, no fights with WL or OKT and he keeps quiet and play by rules..he is scot free. Nobody is asking for his status and no spot checks...We can say always use condom. But think about it, if the WL who serviced you BBBJ had previously done a BBBJ on an HIV+ customer, that is very scary indeed regardless of the fact that condoms provide reasonable protection..

[Big Sexy]

Man jailed for not telling partner about his HIV status

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/man-jailed-for-not-telling-partner-about-his-hiv-status
A version of this article appeared in the print edition of The Straits Times on August 02, 2018, with the headline 'Man jailed for not telling partner about his HIV status'

Despite knowing he was HIV-positive, a Singaporean man had unprotected sex with his unsuspecting victim.

In November last year, District Judge Chay Yuen Fatt found the man guilty of failing to inform his male partner about his condition before the pair engaged in sexual activities.

The 29-year-old HIV-positive man was sentenced to two years' jail yesterday following a three-day trial. His partner's current condition was not revealed in court documents. The two men cannot be named due to a gag order to protect their identities.

There is no cure for HIV infection, which could lead to the potentially fatal acquired immune deficiency syndrome, or Aids. But patients can be treated with anti-retroviral therapy in which they have to consume their prescribed medication every day to suppress the virus.

In the prosecution's sentencing submissions, Deputy Public Prosecutor Peggy Pao and Mr Andre Moses Tan, who is from the Ministry of Health's legal office, said the men got to know each other online.

They then had sex about six times between 2012 and 2013.

In their earlier encounters, the HIV-positive man had 1,626,000 copies of the virus in every millilitre of blood, the court heard. This means there was a high risk of him transmitting the virus to his partner.

The HIV-positive man later sought treatment for his condition and his viral load subsequently dropped to 41 copies per millilitre, reducing his risk of transmitting the disease.

The submissions noted that although protection was used initially, they eventually had unprotected sex.

Court documents did not reveal how the case came to light but the victim found out about the man's HIV-positive status in 2015 only after an investigating officer told him about it.

During the trial, the victim testified in court that he would not have engaged in sexual activities with the man if he had known about his condition.

The prosecution urged Judge Chay to sentence the HIV-positive man to two years' jail, adding: "(The victim) and the accused had not been consistent in the use of condoms when they engaged in sexual activities with each other."

The man told the court that he intends to appeal against the judge's decision. He was offered bail of $15,000.

If convicted, HIV-positive people who fail to inform their partners about their condition before having sex can be jailed for up to 10 years and fined up to $50,000.