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sex crusader
10-06-2018, 09:17 PM
20 mil can give to various charity organizations Liao ma! So hao lian for what?

skyleon
10-06-2018, 09:23 PM
S$20m spent to host Trump-Kim summit, an endeavour in Singapore’s ‘profound interest’: PM Lee

By Kelly Ng


Nuria Ling/TODAY

Published 09 June, 2018

Updated 10 June, 2018


SINGAPORE — The Republic will spend about S$20 million on logistics and security to host the high-profile meeting between United States President Donald Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong-un, but that is a price Singapore is "willing to pay" for a "very important operation", said Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong.

"It cost some money to put up... (But) it is our contribution to an international endeavour that is in our profound interest," said Mr Lee, who met the Singapore media on the sidelines of his visit to the International Media Centre set up at the F1 Pit building on Sunday (June 10).

About half of the cost will go towards stepping up security arrangements for the historic event.

It was not easy to find a suitable host for the Trump-Kim summit – which will take place on Tuesday at Sentosa island’s Capella hotel – and Mr Lee said it “says something about Singapore's relations with the parties and our standing in the international community".

"Both sides have to agree, it has to meet their requirements, it has to be politically and diplomatically acceptable to them. Practical arrangements have also to be seen to... So there are not many places to go," he said.

"Therefore when the two sides asked us to host the meeting, we cannot say no. We have to step up, we are capable of doing it. We have to put (in) some resources but we are able to do a good job," said Mr Lee.

Law and Home Affairs Minister K Shanmugam told reporters on Sunday there were “easily 5,000 Home Team officers”, including police and Singapore Civil Defence Force officers, deployed.

Private security firms are also involved. Last week, Certis announced it was one of the security providers for the summit and that its auxiliary police officers would perform access control, crowd control and traffic management duties.



continue reading here : https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/s20m-spent-host-trump-kim-summit-endeavour-singapores-profound-interest-pm-lee


Instead of helping our less well off fellow citizens wasting taxpayer's money .

WoodyRock
10-06-2018, 10:07 PM
I suppose 20 mil is peanuts compared to what the Jinx lost through GIC?

I Love Boobs
10-06-2018, 10:25 PM
US$20 million will be a gross underquote.....

Just got caught in a massive jam on PIE at 8pm+
No country for the proliterat....

camoman
10-06-2018, 10:42 PM
I don't believe its only $20,000,000.

Beretta
10-06-2018, 10:45 PM
I don't believe its only $20,000,000.

Say $20m but actually only $15m spent with the extra $5m siphoned to Xxx account..... no diff from UMNO style of gahmenment.

signo
10-06-2018, 11:03 PM
And yet a citizen hawker in Tampines bemoans rising costs, GST to be raised and ... ???

BidCOE
10-06-2018, 11:13 PM
Calculate the Open CAT COE bah.

525 successful bid * $37000 is around $20ml.


Fyi

Tai_zi21
10-06-2018, 11:22 PM
On paper it looks gd for the government...

To the people u are simply wasting money...

But then again since when they give a care what we think? :mad:

camoman
10-06-2018, 11:31 PM
On paper it looks gd for the government...

To the people u are simply wasting money...

But then again since when they give a care what we think? :mad:

Before 2004 they cared what you think.

sionglim
11-06-2018, 12:24 AM
Make peace not war.
U see iff war started.
Sporean die first, no job no trade,no tourist...
How to pay visa bill,hdb loan....

bochapsing
11-06-2018, 01:41 AM
use the money for live telecast of world cup better...
at least we can see 22 guys chasing after a ball (25 if u include those 3 in black) for a month...
rather than seeing those 2 jokers for a week talking nonsense...

giggz83
11-06-2018, 02:12 AM
Sgd20 million for this is ok, as compared to others eg. 1) million dollar rubbish chute 2) YOG fiasco 3) special flood lights to grow national stadium grass 4) massive investment losses .. and not forgetting their massive pay checks

At least we try to help save the world for once

MaiLuanGan
11-06-2018, 02:39 AM
Say $20m but actually only $15m spent with the extra $5m siphoned to Xxx account..... no diff from UMNO style of gahmenment.

Won't be surprised if this happened

Kennylks
11-06-2018, 02:51 AM
Vivian went North Korean to pass $xx millions to Kim

Kennylks
11-06-2018, 02:55 AM
when there are reasons to spend money there are opportunity to make money from state’s fund..... eg NDP... high speed rails...

nitecrawllerr
11-06-2018, 06:35 AM
Sgd20 million for this is ok, as compared to others eg. 1) million dollar rubbish chute 2) YOG fiasco 3) special flood lights to grow national stadium grass 4) massive investment losses .. and not forgetting their massive pay checks

At least we try to help save the world for once

Despite those 4 points u highlighted. Papies should start cutting down unnecessary costs. Not add in another large sum of $20,0000,000.00 which is a burden to tax payers! :mad:

Save the world u said? We are just an island in case u have forgotten.:D

bonk69
11-06-2018, 06:49 AM
Wow 20mil, cant imagine few days event cost a bomb. Please listing down the items to justify the spending

liberty666
11-06-2018, 08:25 AM
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We can do so much wth $20m. Anyway those are our CPFs and tax $$$.

skyleon
11-06-2018, 09:34 AM
Spending $20 million for no real results and to boost the legitimacy of a dictator?

Published on 2018-06-10 by Kwok Fangjie


The meeting between American President Donald Trump and North Korean ‘Supreme Leader’ is an event that is unprecedented in many ways more than one.

To facilitate the event, Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong said on Sunday (10 Jun) that Singapore will spend more around $20 million with security arrangements costing around half that figure.

When pointed out that this is a high figure, he responded: "I think if you calculate the price of everything in this world, you will miss out on the really important things.

As PM Lee himself noted, there have been tensions going on around the Korean Peninsula for 70 years and all that "cannot [be] wipe[d] that all away in one meeting".

Many observers have questioned whether there was a need to spend such a huge amount, and if there was any real substance in hosting the meeting considering that Trump had cancelled it at last moment’s notice while there was a verbal sparring with Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani.

North Korean Experts: Kim agreed to meet Trump to boost his personal legitimacy at home

The Washington Post ran a story on Saturday (9 Jun) to explain that Kim's real reason in agreeing to meet Trump is to “cement” his “legitimacy” at home.

According to North Korean leadership expert Ken Gause, Kim Jong Un “is a young leader who has no inherent legitimacy." This is in contrast to his grandfather Kim Il Sung who “was the leader of the North Korean revolution” and father Kim Jong Il who “spent 20 years building a myth and patronage network”.



continue reading here : https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2018/06/10/spending-20-million-for-no-real-results-and-to-boost-the-legitimacy-of-a-dictator/

skyleon
11-06-2018, 09:36 AM
It’s a government initiative, not a people’s movement – let’s not get carried away by one summit

Published on 2018-06-11 by The Online Citizen


by Augustine Low

Let Singapore be a good host for the Trump-Kim summit. Let’s give peace a chance. But let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

Fresh from his return from North Korean capital Pyongyang, Foreign Affairs Minister Vivian Balakrishnan declared that he was “very impressed” with the country.

“Clearly, the government has been hard at work all these decades to upgrade their infrastructure . . . so the society itself is a very impressive society and a city in its own right,” said the Minister.

But a CNN Fareed Zakaria Special shown this morning (8am, 11 June), “The Two Faces of Kim Jong Un,” talked about how the North Koreans mislead visitors into thinking that Pyongyang is like the rest of the country when in fact the majority of its people are starving, where food is rationed and electricity is in short supply.

The Minister was only seeing one face of North Korea.

The short answer to why dictator Kim Jong Un is opening up to the world, says Fareed Zakaria, is that he “is running out of money.”

A recent BBC report dated 1 May 2018 concluded with this paragraph: “Decades of this rigid state-controlled system have led to stagnation and a leadership dependent on the cult of personality. The totalitarian state also stands accused of systematic human rights abuses.”

So let’s not try and sweep everything under the carpet and start heaping praise on a country that for decades has been known as a hermit kingdom – a country which walls itself off from the rest of the world and is famous for its systematic human rights abuses.

The Trump-Kim summit is a step in the right direction. The Singapore government has bragging rights for hosting it, deeming it a privilege and an honour.

Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong has said that it is not just a whole-of-government effort but a “whole of Singapore effort.”



continue reading here : https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2018/06/11/its-a-government-initiative-not-a-peoples-movement-lets-not-get-carried-away-by-one-summit/

skyleon
11-06-2018, 09:39 AM
St Regis Presidential Suite that Kim Jong-un is staying at in S’pore looks like this

In 2015, the room rate was going for S$12,450 per night.

By Belmont Lay | 7 mins



North Korea leader Kim Jong-un landed in Singapore on Sunday, June 10, 2018 at about 3pm.

He was immediately whisked away from Changi Airport to his next location in a black Mercedes-Benz stretch limousine with tinted windows.

A large convoy of vehicles with a heavy police guard then ushered Kim, believed to be 34 years old, to St Regis hotel — a stone’s throw away from the Orchard Road shopping belt.

One of the most luxurious hotels in Singapore

Rooms at the establishment start at S$320 (US$240) a night.

On the 20th floor of St Regis is the opulent 335m2 (3,606ft2) Presidential Suite, where Kim is believed to be spending at least two nights in.

He is scheduled to depart at 2pm on Tuesday, June 12, after his meeting with United States President Trump, which is slated to happen in the morning.

The St Regis hotel says on its website its Presidential Suite rooms are “lined with gold, and accented with precious metals like brass, onyx and silver”, and features a Marc Chagall artwork and a white baby grand piano.



Interior of Presidential Suite

This is how the interior of the Presidential Suite looks like:

No prices are given, but other US media are reporting the hotel to be charging about S$10,683 (US$8,000) per night.

Previously in 2015, the Presidential Suite was listed as going for S$12,450 per night.

It also comes with its own chef and balcony dining option for any presidential guest who might be feeling a little peckish.




continue reading here : https://mothership.sg/2018/06/st-regis-presidential-suite-kim-jong-un/

skyleon
11-06-2018, 09:42 AM
Man lashes out at S’pore police outside St Regis about S$20 million Trump-Kim summit cost

Uncalled for.

By Belmont Lay | 15 mins



Traffic delays and disruptions to pedestrians are expected in the run up to Tuesday’s Trump-Kim summit.

Any inconvenience caused to the public have been widely reported even before Saturday, June 9, as roads surrounding the Special Event Areas have been narrowed, blocked, and even reversed, as security is beefed up.

Signs have even been put up to request the public to comply with orders.

At least one Singaporean peeved, nonetheless

Interestingly, Singaporeans have been admonished to steer clear of any negativity during these couple of days to put our best face forward with all eyes of the world watching.

But it is impossible to police how everyone will react, as some might not fully agree to or comprehend why the summit ought to be held here.

Such as this man, who ended up lashing out at the police outside Tanglin Shopping Centre beside St Regis, over the seemingly contentious issue of the Trump-Kim summit’s cost to Singapore:


What he said

The bearded, middle-aged man in sunglasses was caught on video gesticulating and shouting at the police, who appeared to ask him to take a different route.

However, his response to the police officer can be described as online ranting carried into real-life.

Other pedestrians seen in the video looked on puzzled.



continue reading here : https://mothership.sg/2018/06/singaporean-man-scold-police-st-regis/

donut88
11-06-2018, 09:59 AM
Say $20m but actually only $15m spent with the extra $5m siphoned to Xxx account..... no diff from UMNO style of gahmenment.

U can TCSS here but don't give statement like u did. If we don't see u active here, we know what happened to you.

sanuuk
11-06-2018, 12:32 PM
While this mother fucker's country man are suffering back home in NK, this qiu ceng Kia is enjoying himself here in SG! Wonder whether LHL got bao girl for him bor?:D

titan
11-06-2018, 12:41 PM
u guys don't be so narrow minded la. If our foreign affairs and trade ministry are good, we can easily get it back via other means like trade, access to the untapped market of NK, cheap labor from NK in SG(esp for those lousy work which no one wanna do), refined oil/chemical, tax rebate for sg companies, etc, etc. Remember that China is no longer a cheap labor market anymore, setting up factories in NK is a big labor cost advantage for the next 10-15 years.

kopigaogao
11-06-2018, 01:35 PM
Maybe open opportunity for North Korean Beauties to cum Singapore work :D

newton
11-06-2018, 02:17 PM
Using 20 Millions of taxpayer's money is small change for our Chow Ah Qua PM in order for him to get the Nobel peace prize this year for helping to bring peace to our world. Our PM would be famous around the world and even more famous than his dead Papa.

nitecrawllerr
11-06-2018, 02:38 PM
u guys don't be so narrow minded la. If our foreign affairs and trade ministry are good, we can easily get it back via other means like trade, access to the untapped market of NK, cheap labor from NK in SG(esp for those lousy work which no one wanna do), refined oil/chemical, tax rebate for sg companies, etc, etc. Remember that China is no longer a cheap labor market anymore, setting up factories in NK is a big labor cost advantage for the next 10-15 years.

Remember tat dumbfart Dotard said tis summit was "spur of the moment"? Not plan. N yeasterday dumbfard dotard walk out furiously fm G7 meeting. U tink hes in the mood for soft approach with Kim??:rolleyes:

If tom summit falls thru..ahem...can kiss our $20,000,000.00 good bye!! :mad:

titan
11-06-2018, 04:42 PM
Remember tat dumbfart Dotard said tis summit was "spur of the moment"? Not plan. N yeasterday dumbfard dotard walk out furiously fm G7 meeting. U tink hes in the mood for soft approach with Kim??:rolleyes:

If tom summit falls thru..ahem...can kiss our $20,000,000.00 good bye!! :mad:

actually 10m ++ goes to the local contractors, cisco, hotels, transportation etc la.. still circulating around our local economy la. reporters from overseas come here on biz class air, stay in quite good hotels, take some taxi, buy some food here and there also.

+ SG gov also earn quite a bit from their 'black' money in sg.

like one brother mentioned, NK girls in Geylang legal house also good! :D I have seen some NK girls in KL, Cambodia before. most quite pretty not overly 'modified' as their southern counterparts!

it's been maybe 70 years in 'war' and conflict and it might not be over in just one meeting la..

skyleon
11-06-2018, 08:11 PM
Singapore footing hotel bill for North Korean contingent at Trump-Kim summit: Vivian Balakrishnan



Published 4 hours ago


Yasmine Yahya

Senior Political Correspondent



SINGAPORE - Singapore is footing the hotel bill for North Korean leader Kim Jong Un and his contingent, Foreign Minister Vivian Balakrishnan said on Monday (June 11).

"It's hospitality that we would have offered them, and as Chairman Kim said yesterday, he would have liked to have come to Singapore anyway, with or without the summit," Dr Balakrishnan said in an interview with the BBC.

Mr Kim, who is Chairman of North Korea's State Affairs Commission, arrived in Singapore on Sunday for a historic summit on Tuesday with United States President Donald Trump to discuss possible denuclearisation efforts.

"We would, of course, have offered hospitality," Dr Balakrishnan added, when asked if Singapore paid for the North Korean contingent's hotel stay at The St Regis Singapore.

He added that the expenditure forms part of the $20 million that Singapore is spending on the summit in all.

Of this, half is on security, said Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong earlier. Another $5 million, The Straits Times understands, goes towards facilitating the contingent of journalists here, numbering more than 2,500. This includes the setting up of the international media centre at the F1 Pit Building.

In a separate question, the BBC interviewer noted that Mr Kim is notoriously paranoid about his safety and asked what Singapore had to do to reassure him.

Dr Balakrishnan said the North Korean advance team came to Singapore, walked the grounds, checked the hotels and met local officials.

"I think over the weeks that they spent with us, they gained greater confidence that we are sort of no-nonsense but efficient people," he said. "We are good for our word, we are meticulous, we pay attention to details - every smallest detail. All that, I think, gave them confidence that this was the right site, the right choice."

He added: "Because what you want is a conducive site so that their minds are clear to focus on the substantive negotiations. And we have been able, so far anyway, to provide that confidence."

The BBC interviewer also asked whether Mr Kim was willing to come here because Singapore is not known for protests, but Dr Balakrishnan said it had more to do with security concerns.

“I don’t think it was about protests, I think it was about security. They know that we can provide their security. And quite frankly, I mean, the same consideration applies for President Trump,” he said.

“So, again, let Singapore be Singapore, we do it our way. And the way we do things in this specific instance has been an attractive feature that gave both sides confidence so that they can focus their minds on the real hard work that begins tomorrow.”

The summit comes after what Dr Balakrishnan described as 70 years of suspicion, war and diplomatic failures. “This is not the way conventional diplomacy would have been conducted, but perhaps you need two very unconventional leaders to have brought us to this stage,” he said.

“They may be able to pull rabbits out of a hat that the rest of us conventional diplomats would not have been able to do.”



continue reading here : https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/spore-footing-the-hotel-bill-for-north-korean-contingent-at-the-summit-vivian-balakrishnan



So this is how the PAP Government waste our tax payer's money . Still want to vote for PAP ?

JiByeLoong
11-06-2018, 08:19 PM
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We can do so much wth $20m. Anyway those are our CPFs and tax $$$.

Most of our CPF $$$ already squandered by the Jinx

skyleon
11-06-2018, 08:21 PM
S’pore paying for Kim Jong-un’s S$12,000/night St Regis hotel bill, among other items

It is an investment in world peace.

By Joshua Lee | June 11, 2018


Singapore is picking up the tab of about S$20 million for the Trump-Kim summit.



This sum, according to Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong, is a price Singapore is “willing to pay“, and what Foreign Minister Vivian Balakrishnan calls an “investment in world peace”.

PM Lee has said in interviews that roughly half the figure goes to security detail for the event, but not much has been said about how the rest of the budget is being spent.

We snooped around to find out.


Here’s what S$20 million pays for:

1) Security: ~S$10 million


According to PM Lee, about half of the S$20 million is going into security.

This includes the military deployment (air, land, and sea), police cordons at event venues, and security deployment at road closures and patrolling of special event areas.

Social media users also reported seeing sniffer dogs with police officers patrolling MRT stations within the Tanglin Enhanced Security Special Event Area, while others reported having to cross overhead bridges to pass through police checks instead of being able to cross roads as they usually would.



continue reading here : https://mothership.sg/2018/06/singapore-paying-for-kim-jong-un-hotel-bill/


And putting a lot of Singaporeans inconvenience due to tight security and diversion of traffic.

(.)(.) lover
11-06-2018, 10:46 PM
Maybe open opportunity for North Korean Beauties to cum Singapore work :D

Let have more N Korean gals to work in Geylang

LeeHsienLoong
11-06-2018, 11:15 PM
If you guys are not happy vote the Government out.
The power is with the people.
Everywhere also whine and voice your displeasure but when the GE comes the people give the PAP 70% vote. :rolleyes:

englii56
11-06-2018, 11:35 PM
Why so many sick people here .

newton
12-06-2018, 12:12 AM
PAP ministers taking a selfie with the Korean dictator.
20 millions well spent!:rolleyes:

173117

Littlerocketman
12-06-2018, 08:36 AM
On the way to Sentosa now . Nice weather . :)

sionglim
12-06-2018, 09:05 AM
They want sporean open shops in korean.

sionglim
12-06-2018, 02:44 PM
Botak old beardly uncle yell at police officer, two pips,
At tanglin shopping ctre, becos of barricade he cant walk across.
Must be his business bad ,no shoppers.
Police act calm.
Spf welldone.

skyleon
12-06-2018, 05:41 PM
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The 20 million Sing dollar handshake . Is it worth it ???

peanodood1337
12-06-2018, 06:15 PM
As a disclaimer, I am actually a hardcore opposition voter. There is a lot of Du3 Lan3 in my heart because I disagree with how they have been handling our CPF monies. However - to be objective - this summit has been a masterstroke in diplomacy. To the fellas who think this is a waste of money, c'mon don't be so short-sighted.

In case you haven't realized, this event has painted a huge target on our backs. Both leaders are very high-profile and volatile, with long lists of enemies. It is not inconceivable that many terrorist organizations could be shortlisting this summit as a splendid opportunity to put their names in the limelight. Much of the 20 mil goes into security detail and logistics. It is a show of force and a deterrence. If you're spending peanuts on security detail, I reckon we would have some very interesting Straits Times headlines by now.

And that is just for the management of immediate concerns. Long term agenda-wise, if this event goes off successfully, we are gonna position ourselves as a location of choice for diplomatic events. Think Geneva - wouldn't 20 mil be a small price to pay to be the Geneva of the Oceanic region?

What about free publicity? Quick Question - How much does it cost to put a front page advertisement on a newspaper? Answer - At least 5 figures. Maybe even 6 or 7 figures for major publications with large, international audiences. This event has put Singapore in the front page of countless of newspapers around the world. FOR FREE. How much money have we saved from that alone? I bet we'll have broken even from just that.

Let's not forget, if we manage to buddy-buddy with Fat Boy and Cheeto-Faced Prez, people are gonna think twice about bullying us. We are living in a volatile region after all. Also, if Fat Boy likes Singapore, he's not gonna nuke us. In case you think this is a far-fetched idea, it happened in real life btw, during WW2. The Americans were gonna bomb Kyoto, but Secretary of War Henry Stimson ordered that city to be removed from the target list because he visited the place before and thought it was too beautiful to be destroyed.

Not all benefits are tangible, or manifest themselves with immediate effect. If you still can't see that - all things considered - this 20 mil is actually a small price to pay, you're just a blind hater.

skyleon
12-06-2018, 07:06 PM
In full: Joint statement signed by President Trump and Kim Jong Un at Singapore Summit


12 Jun 2018 03:08PM (Updated: 12 Jun 2018 03:53PM)



SINGAPORE: North Korean leader Kim Jong Un on Tuesday (Jun 12) reaffirmed his "firm and unwavering commitment to complete denuclearisation of the Korean Peninsula".

This was stated in the joint document signed by Mr Kim and US President Donald Trump at their historic summit in Singapore.


This is full text of the document:

President Donald J. Trump of the United States of America and Chairman Kim Jong Un of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) held a first, historic summit in Singapore on June 12, 2018.

President Trump and Chairman Kim Jong Un conducted a comprehensive, in-depth, and sincere exchange of opinions on the issues related to the establishment of new U.S.-DPRK relations and the building of a lasting and robust peace regime on the Korean Peninsula. President Trump committed to provide security guarantees to the DPRK, and Chairman Kim Jong Un reaffirmed his firm and unwavering commitment to complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.

Convinced that the establishment of new U.S.-DPRK relations will contribute to the peace and prosperity of the Korean Peninsula and of the world, and recognizing that mutual confidence building can promote the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula, President Trump and Chairman Kim Jong Un state the following:


1. The United States and the DPRK commit to establish new U.S.-DPRK relations in accordance with the desire of the peoples of the two countries for peace and prosperity.

2. The United States and the DPRK will join their efforts to build a lasting and stable peace regime on the Korean Peninsula.

3. Reaffirming the April 27, 2018 Panmunjom Declaration, the DPRK commits to work towards complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.

4. The United States and the DPRK commit to recovering POW/MIA remains, including the immediate repatriation of those already identified.

Having acknowledged that the U.S.-DPRK summit - the first in history - was an epochal event of great significance and overcoming decades of tensions and hostilities between the two countries and for the opening of a new future, President Trump and Chairman Kim Jong Un commit to implement the stipulations in this joint statement fully and expeditiously. The United States and the DPRK commit to hold follow-on negotiations led by the U.S. Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo, and a relevant high-level DPRK official, at the earliest possible date, to implement the outcomes of the U.S.-DPRK summit.

Read more at https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/full-joint-statement-donald-trump-kim-jong-un-singapore-summit-10423446

skyleon
12-06-2018, 07:11 PM
Parties optimistic about Trump-Kim summit, first step in long process to resolve tensions: Balakrishnan


By Kelly Ng


A sense of "realistic optimism" is in the air ahead of the highly anticipated meeting on Tuesday between United States president Donald Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong-un, Singapore's Foreign Minister Vivian Balakrishnan said.



Published 11 June, 2018

Updated 11 June, 2018


SINGAPORE — A sense of "realistic optimism" is in the air ahead of the highly anticipated meeting on Tuesday between United States president Donald Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong-un, Singapore's Foreign Affairs Minister Vivian Balakrishnan said.

With all eyes on the occasion, he also said that everyone just has to "wait and see" and temper their expectations to avoid "wishful optimism".

Having met both leaders personally, Dr Balakrishnan told British broadcaster BBC in an interview on Monday (June 11) that it is "very clear" both leaders want something significant out of this summit "at an emotional level".

The summit, which will be the first face-to-face meeting between a sitting US president and a North Korean leader, will be held at Sentosa Island's Capella hotel.

Dr Balakrishnan, who just returned from working visits to Washington, US and Pyongyang, North Korea, is not expecting this first meeting to completely iron out decades of conflict and it is only the first step of a "much longer and difficult process".

"(What) I would say is that both of them have indicated quite clearly that this is the first meeting, that you don't resolve 70 years of suspicion, of war, and quite frankly, of previous diplomatic failures, in one meeting. So I think both of them are also signalling to all of us to manage our expectations. It's a huge step. It's a positive step. It's not the final step."

On the agenda are the denuclearisation of the Korean peninsula, peace talks, and other issues of mutual concern.

"Let's see what agreements, or at least, tentative agreements they can come up with on Tuesday or latest, Wednesday," the foreign affairs minister said. "If you see a de-escalation of tension, which, hopefully, in turn would be accompanied by security guarantees on both sides, lowering the possibility of war and enhancing the prospects for economic development — all those would be signs of success."

The historic meeting will be an opportunity for both countries to start building a "reservoir of trust", Dr Balakrishnan noted, referring to longstanding tensions between both sides as a "hangover" of the Cold War.

"The most important missing ingredient in all these seven decades is the lack of strategic trust," he said.

Mr Kim has made promises of denuclearisation before. Over the past three years, Pyongyang has talked about freezing its pursuit of nuclear weapons, but those pledges never quelled its nuclear ambition.


continue reading here : https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/parties-optimistic-about-trump-kim-summit-first-step-long-process-resolve-tensions

skyleon
12-06-2018, 07:17 PM
Trump-Kim Summit: Here’s everything you need to know

Unthinkable before, yet here we are.

By Jack Lau | 31 mins


The historic meeting began at 9 a.m at Capella Hotel on Sentosa.

Kim Jong-un’s motorcade arrived at Capella Hotel seven minutes earlier than Donald Trump’s. This was a sign of respect from a younger person to an elder person in Korean culture, according to Ching-Yi Chang, the Shanghai Media Group White House correspondent.

They met

Kim Jong-un and Donald Trump shook hands in front of a wall of North Korean and American flags. The handshake lasted around 12 seconds, but Trump kept his iconic handshake style at bay.

“Nice to meet you, Mr. President.” Kim said in English. These were the first words exchanged between a North Korean leader and an incumbent American President since the 1953 armistice that ended hostilities between the two Koreas and the Cold War powers behind them.

Kim continued via his translator: “Many people in the world will think of this as a form of fantasy from a science fiction movie.”

Trump and Kim then sat down for a photo op.

“Well, it was not easy to get here. The past worked as fetters on our limbs, and the old prejudices and practices worked as obstacles on our way forward.” Kim said while with Trump.


“That’s true,” Trump said before extending his hand for another handshake.

The two leaders first went for a 40-minute one-to-one meeting and then an extended bilateral meeting with the entire American and North Korean delegation. During the one-to-one meeting, Trump and Kim were seen conversing while strolling the corridors of the Capella Hotel.

News 7 reported that journalists on the sidelines thrice asked Kim between the meetings whether he would denuclearise. “Chairman Kim, will you denuclearize?” They asked twice. Kim did not answer. And they asked again: “Mr. Kim, will you give up your nuclear weapons, sir?” Kim ignored the questions.


Factoid:

Trump’s delegation included John Bolton, who has taken a backseat after North Korea blasted him for suggesting the “Libya model” as an endgame for North Korea.

In 2003, Libya unilaterally gave up their nuclear arsenal in an agreement with the United States. Eight years later, the US joined other European countries to intervene in the Libyan Civil War, during which Libyan leader Muammar el-Qaddafi was killed by rebel forces.

The summit was called off but then reinstated.

They ate

After the bilateral meeting, Trump and Kim went for a working lunch.

The delegations ate in an Edwardian room at a long table decorated with a line of flowers separating the two sides.

Before sitting down, Trump asked the photographers present, “getting a good picture, everybody? So we look nice and handsome and thin and perfect?” After Kim’s translator repeated Trump’s question in Korean, Kim looked at the photographers awkwardly without muttering another word.



continue reading here : https://mothership.sg/2018/06/trump-kim-summit-singapore-all-to-know/

purepulp
13-06-2018, 12:00 PM
As a disclaimer, I am actually a hardcore opposition voter. There is a lot of Du3 Lan3 in my heart because I disagree with how they have been handling our CPF monies. However - to be objective - this summit has been a masterstroke in diplomacy. To the fellas who think this is a waste of money, c'mon don't be so short-sighted.

In case you haven't realized, this event has painted a huge target on our backs. Both leaders are very high-profile and volatile, with long lists of enemies. It is not inconceivable that many terrorist organizations could be shortlisting this summit as a splendid opportunity to put their names in the limelight. Much of the 20 mil goes into security detail and logistics. It is a show of force and a deterrence. If you're spending peanuts on security detail, I reckon we would have some very interesting Straits Times headlines by now.

And that is just for the management of immediate concerns. Long term agenda-wise, if this event goes off successfully, we are gonna position ourselves as a location of choice for diplomatic events. Think Geneva - wouldn't 20 mil be a small price to pay to be the Geneva of the Oceanic region?

What about free publicity? Quick Question - How much does it cost to put a front page advertisement on a newspaper? Answer - At least 5 figures. Maybe even 6 or 7 figures for major publications with large, international audiences. This event has put Singapore in the front page of countless of newspapers around the world. FOR FREE. How much money have we saved from that alone? I bet we'll have broken even from just that.

Let's not forget, if we manage to buddy-buddy with Fat Boy and Cheeto-Faced Prez, people are gonna think twice about bullying us. We are living in a volatile region after all. Also, if Fat Boy likes Singapore, he's not gonna nuke us. In case you think this is a far-fetched idea, it happened in real life btw, during WW2. The Americans were gonna bomb Kyoto, but Secretary of War Henry Stimson ordered that city to be removed from the target list because he visited the place before and thought it was too beautiful to be destroyed.

Not all benefits are tangible, or manifest themselves with immediate effect. If you still can't see that - all things considered - this 20 mil is actually a small price to pay, you're just a blind hater.

Agreed and the most amazing thing is the speed at which the whole event was organised. An event of similar security usually takes one year to plan. Kudos to our guys for getting things done in a matter of days.

MaoSanWang
13-06-2018, 12:55 PM
agree this event is a master stroke in diplomacy for Singapore.

we are surrounded by neighbours who wants our economy, ranging from developing their own sea ports, digging extra sea channels to bypass us, have global railway that stop short of our country...

this event brought awareness to the world our steadfast policies and reliability in Singapore cannot be replaced just by material wealth or physical resources.
The people in the country made the difference.

i'm sure we will make many more times of the $20m we spent, from future global trades that opened up to us because of this Summit.

i'm proud to b a singaporean. :D

sionglim
13-06-2018, 02:35 PM
I suppose 20 mil is peanuts compared to what the Jinx lost through GIC?

20m to make peace no war worth it.
More job for north korean, from usa company worth it.
Ship come spore port, no war

Jjleejj
13-06-2018, 03:34 PM
Good advertisement for Singapore, especially Sentosa, garden by the Bay.....world world reporters are around. I think is worth it.

sionglim
13-06-2018, 03:51 PM
as they feedback report to states
american said very hot sweating

arsenal168
13-06-2018, 05:01 PM
Kim & Trump paid their visits to our PM’s office.

No 10 mins courtesy call to our president Halimah whose office in Istana too?

No protocol?🤔

sionglim
13-06-2018, 06:10 PM
what he tell to halimah??
Hariraya mood la.

sionglim
13-06-2018, 06:18 PM
20 mil can give to various charity organizations Liao ma! So hao lian for what?

lao auntie uncle, kao peh at tanglin,
Curse swear in hokkien.
Jiak liao bee.
Say to policemen waste money

sionglim
13-06-2018, 06:20 PM
I suppose 20 mil is peanuts compared to what the Jinx lost through GIC?

South korean girls protest at nite.
Six gals all arrested.
Swift action by spf
Had repatrite back to korea,.

nitecrawllerr
13-06-2018, 06:25 PM
See..70% had spoken. 20 mil is peanut. Look at the bigger picture.:D

Stimsia
13-06-2018, 07:18 PM
Tourism board spent more to advertised SG
News all over the world reported this historic meeting

SINGAPORE n SENTOSA boleh:cool:

ajlover
14-06-2018, 01:17 AM
$20m spent only to be stated as Singapore, Malaysia....

!@#$ na bei....

sionglim
14-06-2018, 11:02 AM
Spore curreny, nothing to do with malaysia.
By the way mahatheir say pospone not cancel.
He had told the japanese.
If pospone need to monetary compensate spore garmend?

sionglim
14-06-2018, 11:35 AM
Good advertisement for Singapore, especially Sentosa, garden by the Bay.....world world reporters are around. I think is worth it.

Analyst said spore may gain about $700
On retailing n tourism due to media exposure
S T website news

JoesephToh
14-06-2018, 12:01 PM
$20m spent only to be stated as Singapore, Malaysia....

!@#$ na bei....

Read somewhere that some idiot news say Sillypore part of Malaysia . :eek:

moobs34
14-06-2018, 02:19 PM
Read somewhere that some idiot news say Sillypore part of Malaysia . :eek:

What is Sillypore ? :eek:

skyscaper
14-06-2018, 03:40 PM
use the money for live telecast of world cup better...
at least we can see 22 guys chasing after a ball (25 if u include those 3 in black) for a month...
rather than seeing those 2 jokers for a week talking nonsense...

Wait long long mabe have.

cqueen
14-06-2018, 03:51 PM
Say $20m but actually only $15m spent with the extra $5m siphoned to Xxx account..... no diff from UMNO style of gahmenment.

You had better have iron clad evidence that $5million had been misappropriated and “siphoned off to Xxxx account”.
You have to be responsible and accountable for your allegations of misappropriated $5 million dollars by our Singapore government.
This so called freedom of speech or open expression here does not give you the right/licence to slander our Singapore government clean reputation without any rock solid proof.
If you are just opening your big mouth to spout out irresponsible claims to injure our Government without any solid proof, u had better retract your irresponsible, unfounded claims and make an apology for your immature irresponsible ways.

cqueen
14-06-2018, 04:00 PM
S$20m spent to host Trump-Kim summit, an endeavour in Singapore’s ‘profound interest’: PM Lee

By Kelly Ng


Nuria Ling/TODAY

Published 09 June, 2018

Updated 10 June, 2018


SINGAPORE — The Republic will spend about S$20 million on logistics and security to host the high-profile meeting between United States President Donald Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong-un, but that is a price Singapore is "willing to pay" for a "very important operation", said Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong.

"It cost some money to put up... (But) it is our contribution to an international endeavour that is in our profound interest," said Mr Lee, who met the Singapore media on the sidelines of his visit to the International Media Centre set up at the F1 Pit building on Sunday (June 10).

About half of the cost will go towards stepping up security arrangements for the historic event.

It was not easy to find a suitable host for the Trump-Kim summit – which will take place on Tuesday at Sentosa island’s Capella hotel – and Mr Lee said it “says something about Singapore's relations with the parties and our standing in the international community".

"Both sides have to agree, it has to meet their requirements, it has to be politically and diplomatically acceptable to them. Practical arrangements have also to be seen to... So there are not many places to go," he said.

"Therefore when the two sides asked us to host the meeting, we cannot say no. We have to step up, we are capable of doing it. We have to put (in) some resources but we are able to do a good job," said Mr Lee.

Law and Home Affairs Minister K Shanmugam told reporters on Sunday there were “easily 5,000 Home Team officers”, including police and Singapore Civil Defence Force officers, deployed.

Private security firms are also involved. Last week, Certis announced it was one of the security providers for the summit and that its auxiliary police officers would perform access control, crowd control and traffic management duties.



continue reading here : https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/s20m-spent-host-trump-kim-summit-endeavour-singapores-profound-interest-pm-lee


Instead of helping our less well off fellow citizens wasting taxpayer's money .

What makes you say that our Government did not help our less well off fellow citizens? You have this well recorded habit of “politicising” any single initiatives carried out by our Government for the sole purpose of criticising their well intended efforts without any solid merits or grounds. I have yet to see that you offer any effective solutions or constructive feedbacks at all to any of your self motivated “politicised” hidden motives and interests.

cmt8zaimas
14-06-2018, 04:04 PM
Wait long long mabe have.

I was about to say this.

MediaConnex
14-06-2018, 04:21 PM
You had better have iron clad evidence that $5million had been misappropriated and “siphoned off to Xxxx account”.
You have to be responsible and accountable for your allegations of misappropriated $5 million dollars by our Singapore government.
This so called freedom of speech or open expression here does not give you the right/licence to slander our Singapore government clean reputation without any rock solid proof.
If you are just opening your big mouth to spout out irresponsible claims to injure our Government without any solid proof, u had better retract your irresponsible, unfounded claims and make an apology for your immature irresponsible ways.

Open your small eyes and ears. Keppel trying to pay millions to cover up some dirty things, you call that clean?

cqueen
14-06-2018, 04:34 PM
Vivian went North Korean to pass $xx millions to Kim

Any solid evidence to back your allegations?
If not, stop your irresponsible behaviour!
How do you like it if you are accused of something you did not do without any solid evidence?

cqueen
14-06-2018, 04:38 PM
Singapore footing hotel bill for North Korean contingent at Trump-Kim summit: Vivian Balakrishnan



Published 4 hours ago


Yasmine Yahya

Senior Political Correspondent



SINGAPORE - Singapore is footing the hotel bill for North Korean leader Kim Jong Un and his contingent, Foreign Minister Vivian Balakrishnan said on Monday (June 11).

"It's hospitality that we would have offered them, and as Chairman Kim said yesterday, he would have liked to have come to Singapore anyway, with or without the summit," Dr Balakrishnan said in an interview with the BBC.

Mr Kim, who is Chairman of North Korea's State Affairs Commission, arrived in Singapore on Sunday for a historic summit on Tuesday with United States President Donald Trump to discuss possible denuclearisation efforts.

"We would, of course, have offered hospitality," Dr Balakrishnan added, when asked if Singapore paid for the North Korean contingent's hotel stay at The St Regis Singapore.

He added that the expenditure forms part of the $20 million that Singapore is spending on the summit in all.

Of this, half is on security, said Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong earlier. Another $5 million, The Straits Times understands, goes towards facilitating the contingent of journalists here, numbering more than 2,500. This includes the setting up of the international media centre at the F1 Pit Building.

In a separate question, the BBC interviewer noted that Mr Kim is notoriously paranoid about his safety and asked what Singapore had to do to reassure him.

Dr Balakrishnan said the North Korean advance team came to Singapore, walked the grounds, checked the hotels and met local officials.

"I think over the weeks that they spent with us, they gained greater confidence that we are sort of no-nonsense but efficient people," he said. "We are good for our word, we are meticulous, we pay attention to details - every smallest detail. All that, I think, gave them confidence that this was the right site, the right choice."

He added: "Because what you want is a conducive site so that their minds are clear to focus on the substantive negotiations. And we have been able, so far anyway, to provide that confidence."

The BBC interviewer also asked whether Mr Kim was willing to come here because Singapore is not known for protests, but Dr Balakrishnan said it had more to do with security concerns.

“I don’t think it was about protests, I think it was about security. They know that we can provide their security. And quite frankly, I mean, the same consideration applies for President Trump,” he said.

“So, again, let Singapore be Singapore, we do it our way. And the way we do things in this specific instance has been an attractive feature that gave both sides confidence so that they can focus their minds on the real hard work that begins tomorrow.”

The summit comes after what Dr Balakrishnan described as 70 years of suspicion, war and diplomatic failures. “This is not the way conventional diplomacy would have been conducted, but perhaps you need two very unconventional leaders to have brought us to this stage,” he said.

“They may be able to pull rabbits out of a hat that the rest of us conventional diplomats would not have been able to do.”



continue reading here : https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/spore-footing-the-hotel-bill-for-north-korean-contingent-at-the-summit-vivian-balakrishnan



So this is how the PAP Government waste our tax payer's money . Still want to vote for PAP ?

Do not make sweeping unfounded statements. Write and give concise accounts with solid evidence to back your claim that our PAP is wasting our tax payer’s money.
Here is another record you are using this government initiative again for your own motivated political hidden agenda.

cqueen
14-06-2018, 04:42 PM
Open your small eyes and ears. Keppel trying to pay millions to cover up some dirty things, you call that clean?

This is made known to the public with corrective measures and punishments meted out accordingly. In short, there is transparency and accountability.

What is not right here is making allegations without any solid evidence for the sole purpose of “politicising” the events to serve the individual hidden agenda.

yobyella
14-06-2018, 04:46 PM
Duplicate post

cqueen
14-06-2018, 04:51 PM
agree this event is a master stroke in diplomacy for Singapore.

we are surrounded by neighbours who wants our economy, ranging from developing their own sea ports, digging extra sea channels to bypass us, have global railway that stop short of our country...

this event brought awareness to the world our steadfast policies and reliability in Singapore cannot be replaced just by material wealth or physical resources.
The people in the country made the difference.

i'm sure we will make many more times of the $20m we spent, from future global trades that opened up to us because of this Summit.

i'm proud to b a singaporean. :D

Good afternoon MaoSanWang,

1. I, like you, am proud that our little Red Dot is the first country to hold such an historical important event.

2. If North Korea ever opens up their economy, Singapore will be able to benefit greatly from its “unexploited” economic territory that opens up vast opportunities for our country.

yobyella
14-06-2018, 05:01 PM
If North Korea ever opens up their economy, Singapore will be able to benefit greatly from its “unexploited” economic territory that opens up vast opportunities for our country.

You may have to start learning korean.:rolleyes: Just like hw we were force to abandon our mother tongue and switch to Mandarin for the sake of economic success:rolleyes:

RojanaMamba
14-06-2018, 05:12 PM
You may have to start learning korean.:rolleyes: Just like hw we were force to abandon our mother tongue and switch to Mandarin for the sake of economic success:rolleyes:

That's because a baba fucker who cannot speak dialect forced the whole nation to speak mandarin :D

yobyella
14-06-2018, 06:33 PM
This is made known to the public with corrective measures and punishments meted out accordingly. In short, there is transparency and accountability.

What is not right here is making allegations without any solid evidence for the sole purpose of “politicising” the events to serve the individual hidden agenda.

Can ask your master to give us an option with regards to CPF withdrawal? I know how to plan for my retirement. I know how to make my money grow. Why stop us from getting much better yield than mere 2.5%? Why cant your master give us an option? Let CPF members decide for themselves whether to leave their money with CPF or withdraw for their own investment plan?

RicoStone
14-06-2018, 08:00 PM
Beware of PAP internet brigade . :)

sionglim
14-06-2018, 08:49 PM
What is Sillypore ? :eek:

Address of mariot
Xxxxx
Xxx
Singapore, malaysia.

That mean spore a city of malaysia.

Mistake by US state dept

sionglim
14-06-2018, 08:51 PM
That's because a baba fucker who cannot speak dialect forced the whole nation to speak mandarin :D

He speak hokkien veri well during election.


I went to chinatown small shops to get my clothe n watch fix up.
I speak cantonese first.

End up speak abit hokkien and then in mandarin.
So..
Mandarin is useful, will learn it naturally.

So common language mandarin.

FireDisco
14-06-2018, 11:07 PM
You had better have iron clad evidence that $5million had been misappropriated and “siphoned off to Xxxx account”.
You have to be responsible and accountable for your allegations of misappropriated $5 million dollars by our Singapore government.
This so called freedom of speech or open expression here does not give you the right/licence to slander our Singapore government clean reputation without any rock solid proof.
If you are just opening your big mouth to spout out irresponsible claims to injure our Government without any solid proof, u had better retract your irresponsible, unfounded claims and make an apology for your immature irresponsible ways.

Typical white bastard, you better apologize or I'll sue until you bankrupt :D

nitecrawllerr
15-06-2018, 10:33 AM
Can ask your master to give us an option with regards to CPF withdrawal? I know how to plan for my retirement. I know how to make my money grow. Why stop us from getting much better yield than mere 2.5%? Why cant your master give us an option? Let CPF members decide for themselves whether to leave their money with CPF or withdraw for their own investment plan?

Very good suggestion.:cool:

So CQueen what have u to say? Good or bad suggestion?:D

skyleon
15-06-2018, 12:06 PM
This is what the joint statement really means, according to retired diplomat Bilahari Kausikan

An 'imperfect' joint statement is better than none.

By Kayla Wong | 8 hours


The first ever summit between a sitting American president and a North Korean leader just ended on Tuesday, June 12.

Many political commentators weighed in on the summit, as well as the joint statement signed by both leaders after the meeting.

Singapore’s retired diplomat Bilahari Kausikan gave his take on the joint statement (JS) as well.

Here are some highlights from his 1800-word opinion piece published on The Straits Times on June 13.


What the JS is really about

JS kicks off a long process


“We are only at the very beginning of what will undoubtedly be a long, risky, but potentially extremely significant process.”

JS doesn’t guarantee a stop to “war games” for the long run


“After the summit, Mr Trump said that he was freezing joint military exercises with South Korea.

But nothing in the JS commits him to drawing down American forces.

No one should bet on him not changing his mind on exercises either.”

Commitments U.S. and North Korea made in JS are not binding


“The JS’ second preambular paragraph contains the following sentence: “President Trump committed to provide security guarantees to the DPRK, and Chairman Kim Jong Un reaffirmed his firm and unwavering commitment to complete denuclearisation of the Korean peninsula.”

The crucial comma in between the two phrases of the sentence fudges the apparent linkage. They could well be read as two separate statements of intent.

In diplomatic documents, preambular paragraphs generally imply a less binding commitment than operative paragraphs – which in the JS consists of the four-point agreement.

There is no mention of security guarantees or linkage in the four operative paragraphs.”



continue reading here : https://mothership.sg/2018/06/joint-statement-bilahari-kausikan/

skyleon
15-06-2018, 12:24 PM
Can ask your master to give us an option with regards to CPF withdrawal? I know how to plan for my retirement. I know how to make my money grow. Why stop us from getting much better yield than mere 2.5%? Why cant your master give us an option? Let CPF members decide for themselves whether to leave their money with CPF or withdraw for their own investment plan?

Really I want to know why his master is making us harder to use our own CPF even for medical ? If I not wrong somebody mentioned that the creation of CPF was to let us use our money for retirement when we turn 55 years . But now it seemed that it is getting harder and harder to use our OWN CPF for retirement and medical . Everyone has got an agenda even if you are not Singaporean . So I guess to some people it is ok to waste 20 million dollars on this summit instead of helping your local Singaporeans who are your voters ? :rolleyes: I noticed that this period I noticed that our Singapore President had gone missing . Only appear after the summit had concluded .




Who benefits from the publicity?

1. Kim Jung Un and North Korea.

2. Donald Trump and his Presidency.

3. Lee Hsien Loong, Ho Ching, Vivian Balakrishna, Ng Eng Hen, Ong Yee Kung, Shamugam, et el.

4. Capella Hotel.
5. St Regis Hotel.
6. Shangrila Hotel.
7. Marina Bay Sands.
8. Garden By The Bay.

9. Sentosa Development Corporation.

10. Trump's limousine, THE BEAST.

11. Malaysia - because Singapore has been projected world-wide as a part of Malaysia, by US Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo, in Press Briefing, in front of 3000 international journalists, reporters and cameramen!!!

12. The least benefits, or none at all, not even spin-offs, are the commoners, the masses, the ordinary citizens of Singapore.

All these high profile exposures only benefit high status and high positions' incumbents. This is a fact. Not fake assumption.

Don't believe? Just follow the trails of where the money goes.


The biggest winner is N Korea if you guys don't know by now already .

SnowLeopards
15-06-2018, 02:38 PM
The people of Singapore can never do what the people of Malaysia did.

You need balls and guts for that. :D

Pierre.

saikungslut
15-06-2018, 04:53 PM
Do not make sweeping unfounded statements. Write and give concise accounts with solid evidence to back your claim that our PAP is wasting our tax payer’s money.
Here is another record you are using this government initiative again for your own motivated political hidden agenda.

Even with black and white to prove, the judge will say everything is in order. Since when the dog will bite its master right?

Dogs will always find ways to defend their masters :p

terra-cotta
15-06-2018, 04:54 PM
Sometimes I wonder why they make it harder to even use our own CPF ? Mrt always breakdown . Lift also breakdown . Now even got power failure . Everything so expensive and the government can hoalian say spend 20 million on the summit .

Mushr00mhead
15-06-2018, 05:52 PM
Sometimes I wonder why they make it harder to even use our own CPF ? Mrt always breakdown . Lift also breakdown . Now even got power failure . Everything so expensive and the government can hoalian say spend 20 million on the summit .

No more money liao lah , all squandered by the Jinx .

Grabara
15-06-2018, 06:01 PM
Even with black and white to prove, the judge will say everything is in order. Since when the dog will bite its master right?

Dogs will always find ways to defend their masters :p

Wahahaa one needle see blood :D

sharklaserscom
16-06-2018, 09:14 PM
Saw this in the other thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Foc4VgKAVrM

Mbappe
16-06-2018, 10:23 PM
Saw this in the other thread

That viviancunt manage to return to Sg in one piece? :eek:

sionglim
17-06-2018, 03:06 AM
News say..
A spore policeNS guy
Do the korean English translation.
Now invited to tour north korean.

DeadlyViper
17-06-2018, 11:31 AM
I wonder where was the Singapore President all this time ???

deepu
17-06-2018, 02:04 PM
I wonder where was the Singapore President all this time ???

Selling nasi lemak at hawker centre ?

skyleon
20-06-2018, 09:57 AM
Govt in overdrive to justify $20M Summit spending

Published on 2018-06-20 by The Online Citizen


by Georgia Tong

Seems like the focus of our government after the US-N Korea Summit ended is to justify the $20 M poured into the holding it. Could it be because of the negative outcome as most critics said the agreement signed between the 2 leaders is full of holes? Or could it be because our closest neighbor Malaysia is cutting back on govt expenditure while ours is still spending like they have a gold mine?

The mainstream media went into overdrive the last few days to highlight how many monetary benefits Singapore has gotten out of the summit. Really?

I recalled after Prime Minister Lee announced that $20 million will be splashed on the summit, CNA interviewed 2 economists if Spore would benefit from the summit. Both said the tangible economic benefits are limited. However, after the summit, we are thrown figures like $700M - Meltwater report, $200M worth of global publicity, $150M to $750M of economic benefits ($750M- increase by $50M overnight ?)

Looking at the figures from $150M to $750 M - the difference is $600M ie 400% difference! Such a wide gap and they expect us to accept them at face value and believe in them?

The $20 M is already spent on the Summit, but all these airy figures are intangible benefits which may not even materialized.

To top it up, Minister K Shanmugam said that North Korea missiles can reach S'pore in 20 mins. The same old trick, using scare tactics. Since when did North Korea ever threaten S'pore? They may not even know of our geographical location since they have no relationship with us. If US, our longtime friend thinks we are part of Malaysia, N Korea is likely unaware of our existence before the summit.


continue reading here : https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2018/06/20/govt-in-overdrive-to-justify-20m-summit-spending/

NotMyPresident
21-06-2018, 07:00 PM
Selling nasi lemak at hawker centre ?

I heard that she now become a promoter for Milo . :D

sionglim
22-06-2018, 01:25 AM
Must promote healthy drink to all sporean.
No more greasy oilly prata,n egg

sionglim
22-06-2018, 01:27 AM
Must promote tachi excercise to old ppl too.

skyleon
22-06-2018, 09:47 AM
President Halimah’s promotion of Milo comes under severe criticisms


By Jewel Stolarchuk -

June 21, 2018

Milo on Tuesday launched a variant of the drink with no added table sugar and named the beverage ‘Milo Gao Kosong’. Nestle Singapore managing director Rajiv Deraniyagala said that the beverage was produced as a result of a challenge posed by President Halimah Yacob.

“It was about eight, nine months ago when we had this conversation with President Halimah Yacob on what we can do to reduce the sugar in Milo,” Mr Deraniyagala said.

Nestle Singapore introduced another variant of Milo in July last year. The product christened ‘Milo Gao Siew Dai’ has 50 per cent less table sugar and 30 per cent more protein than the original formula. When they launched this product the President challenged the beverage maker to make a Milo product with no added sugar.

“Today, inspired by President Halimah Yacob, after many months of research here in Singapore, we are extremely excited to unveil the first Milo without added (table) sugar,” Mr Deraniyagala added.

President Halimah inaugurated the beverage by drinking the first official cup of ‘Milo Gao Kosong’ at Plaza Singapura.



continue reading here : http://theindependent.sg/president-halimahs-promotion-of-milo-comes-under-severe-criticisms/

ViVianCunt
22-06-2018, 11:26 AM
Hahaha .. pay so high to be a Milo drink promoter . :D

Mabelineup
23-06-2018, 11:46 PM
To promote Yakult next - "Ha Ha Ha-Lim-ah Yacob"

sionglim
24-06-2018, 11:09 AM
distribute milo to kids?
Or promote, ?
did she said drink milo is good?

skyleon
25-06-2018, 09:26 AM
Hosting Trump-Kim summit cost S$16.3 million; security the biggest component: MFA


24 Jun 2018 05:36PM (Updated: 24 Jun 2018 09:06PM)


SINGAPORE: The actual cost of hosting the historic summit between United States President Donald Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un incurred by the Singapore Government is approximately S$16.3 million, less than the earlier estimate of S$20 million, a Ministry of Foreign Affairs spokesperson said on Sunday (May 24).

Of the amount, the biggest component spent was on security, the ministry spokesperson said.

Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong had previously estimated that the summit would cost around $20 million to host, with security costing half the figure. Mr Lee had described the amount spent as Singapore's "contribution to an international endeavour which is in our profound interest".

Hosting the meeting was largely seen as a public relations coup for Singapore, with more than 2,500 journalists on the island reporting on the landmark event.

The Jun 12 meeting between Mr Trump and Mr Kim at the Capella hotel on Sentosa culminated in the North Korean leader reaffirming his "firm and unwavering commitment to complete denuclearisation of the Korean Peninsula".

This was stated in a joint document signed by Mr Trump and Mr Kim.

Since then, the US and South Korea have suspended two military exercises, following president Trump's promise at the summit to halt the war games between the two countries.

But senior US officials admit there is much work to be done as negotiators thrash out the details of what they hope will be Pyongyang's "complete, verifiable and irreversible" disarmament.

Read more at https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/hosting-trump-kim-summit-cost-s-16-3-million-security-the-10464348


So do you think that the money is well spent ???

sionglim
26-06-2018, 02:13 AM
Lucky our garment pay..

Other country pay spore lau kui.
Now upnorth ahbhang fool around with water.
Stand united.

nitecrawllerr
26-06-2018, 01:02 PM
Lucky our garment pay..

Other country pay spore lau kui.
Now upnorth ahbhang fool around with water.
Stand united.

Lau Siong ya. Govt pay fm whose pocket?:rolleyes:

ComplainKing
26-06-2018, 01:19 PM
Lucky our garment pay..

Other country pay spore lau kui.
Now upnorth ahbhang fool around with water.
Stand united.

Are you ok or not ? I rather our government don't pay . I rather other governments pay .So I guess you are ok to see your fellow Singaporeans suffer ? Those got no job. Those who are suffering from medical illness . Just look at the President Star Charity . So many are suffering and our government don't use that kind of money to help our fellow Singaporeans who could be your voters .

sionglim
26-06-2018, 02:41 PM
Lau Siong ya. Govt pay fm whose pocket?:rolleyes:
All smokers n drinkers
Foreign levy

sionglim
26-06-2018, 02:43 PM
let them suck more from airport tax,ica tax mom levy.
Suck from car owners,
All kind of licence, include garang gunie.

Rafaga
27-06-2018, 02:09 AM
Say $20m but actually only $15m spent with the extra $5m siphoned to Xxx account..... no diff from UMNO style of gahmenment.

Well done!
Thanks to your post the gahmen backtrack and now say cost only $12m :D
We need more whistleblowers like you to speak out more often.

ComplainKing
27-06-2018, 06:57 PM
let them suck more from airport tax,ica tax mom levy.
Suck from car owners,
All kind of licence, include garang gunie.

Why have you not answer my previous question ??? So I can guess safely that you a PAP supporter and that you are ok with what they are doing ? That you don't care about your fellow Singaporeans who are suffering ? Are you a car owner ; a smoker and enjoys travelling overseas ??? I might also think that you are very rich . :rolleyes: :eek:

ComplainKing
27-06-2018, 07:01 PM
Well done!
Thanks to your post the gahmen backtrack and now say cost only $12m :D
We need more whistleblowers like you to speak out more often.

What makes it confusing is that they claim the bulk of money spent is towards security . But they are they using the Gurkhas ; special forces ; army ; navy ; air force and countless numbers of support staff who are on taxpayer's money anyways ??? So what have they spent the money on ???

sionglim
27-06-2018, 11:47 PM
What makes it confusing is that they claim the bulk of money spent is towards security . But they are they using the Gurkhas ; special forces ; army ; navy ; air force and countless numbers of support staff who are on taxpayer's money anyways ??? So what have they spent the money on ???
U understand chinese hokkien, lau kui, or not.

JoesephToh
28-06-2018, 01:35 PM
U understand chinese hokkien, lau kui, or not.

I don't understand why you talk hokkien when people talk to you in simple English . I also curious why you are avoiding answering his questions ?

catca
28-06-2018, 02:38 PM
I don't understand why you talk hokkien when people talk to you in simple English . I also curious why you are avoiding answering his questions ?

I don't understand why people don't answer you also want to interfere .

DrDoom
28-06-2018, 04:14 PM
Are you ok or not ? I rather our government don't pay . I rather other governments pay .So I guess you are ok to see your fellow Singaporeans suffer ? Those got no job. Those who are suffering from medical illness . Just look at the President Star Charity . So many are suffering and our government don't use that kind of money to help our fellow Singaporeans who could be your voters .

Of course I do not like to see anyone suffer whether they are Singaporean or not .

sionglim
28-06-2018, 06:41 PM
I don't understand why you talk hokkien when people talk to you in simple English . I also curious why you are avoiding answering his questions ?
No point waste time with keyboard hero.
Want to fight come chinatown, many garang gunie need ppl to fight for them, a place to hawk.
Do something useful.

sionglim
28-06-2018, 06:42 PM
I don't understand why people don't answer you also want to interfere .

Joseph toh = complain king

sionglim
28-06-2018, 06:43 PM
Many poor hawkers ,at blk 4 sago lane, ,last day to operate, this saturday
.to be chase away soon

StealTeam69
28-06-2018, 06:59 PM
Of course I do not like to see anyone suffer whether they are Singaporean or not .

So who is suffering ?

4Leaves
28-06-2018, 07:05 PM
Joseph toh = complain king

How do you know?

ComplainKing
29-06-2018, 12:21 PM
All smokers n drinkers
Foreign levy

let them suck more from airport tax,ica tax mom levy.
Suck from car owners,
All kind of licence, include garang gunie.

No point waste time with keyboard hero.
Want to fight come chinatown, many garang gunie need ppl to fight for them, a place to hawk.
Do something useful.


From all these posts I can see that he still won't answer my question . How difficult is it to answer my question ? In fact want to challenge people to a fight in Chinatown . On top of that can see that this joker fully support the government's policies . He also thinks that smokers ; car owners airport users should be taxed more . I honestly doubt he cares about the ordinary Singaporeans .

ComplainKing
29-06-2018, 12:22 PM
How do you know?

Yah I also would like to know too .

sionglim
29-06-2018, 12:25 PM
Come support n fight for road side hawkers, chasing out soon,
Tomolo last day hawk. Sago lane blk 4.
Opp simson loke hup association.

Not sure who are you.
Foreign talent.. hide behind computer?

sionglim
29-06-2018, 12:28 PM
Of course I do not like to see anyone suffer whether they are Singaporean or not .
Malaysian n foreign workers paying high levy too.
Sporean getting gst voucher too

sionglim
29-06-2018, 12:29 PM
Why have you not answer my previous question ??? So I can guess safely that you a PAP supporter and that you are ok with what they are doing ? That you don't care about your fellow Singaporeans who are suffering ? Are you a car owner ; a smoker and enjoys travelling overseas ??? I might also think that you are very rich . :rolleyes: :eek:

Like a angmo kia, must answer to u?
气白

JoesephToh
29-06-2018, 04:59 PM
I think somebody really borji and bohlampar to answer Bro ComplainKing question . I wonder what is he afraid of ? He think he is big time gangster and want to challenge people to a fight .

SnowLeopards
29-06-2018, 05:34 PM
The discussion have taken a twist. :D

Pierre.

nitecrawllerr
29-06-2018, 06:30 PM
Malaysian n foreign workers paying high levy too.
Sporean getting gst voucher too

Rightly so! Foreign workers esp those S n EP pass must pay high levy for stealing sillyporean jobs.:rolleyes:

If have GST vouchers i more worried.:mad:

So u hardup for gst vouchers or against levy for FTs?

ComplainKing
29-06-2018, 06:58 PM
Rightly so! Foreign workers esp those S n EP pass must pay high levy for stealing sillyporean jobs.:rolleyes:

If have GST vouchers i more worried.:mad:

So u hardup for gst vouchers or against levy for FTs?

Lets see whether he will reply to you . :D

JoesephToh
30-06-2018, 07:09 PM
I think somebody scared already and run road liao . I really wonder why he so scare to answer to bro ComplainKing's question . :D

JoesephToh
30-06-2018, 07:12 PM
Rightly so! Foreign workers esp those S n EP pass must pay high levy for stealing sillyporean jobs.:rolleyes:

If have GST vouchers i more worried.:mad:

So u hardup for gst vouchers or against levy for FTs?

The GST vouchers are still taxpayers money after all . In fact if they give the gst voucher next month the following 2 months after that they still take it back . Makes no difference to them . But to us it is making a bigger hole in our pocket .

vanilladicky
30-06-2018, 10:34 PM
I think somebody scared already and run road liao . I really wonder why he so scare to answer to bro ComplainKing's question . :D

Oh is it ? So scary here . :confused:

vanilladicky
30-06-2018, 10:35 PM
Lets see whether he will reply to you . :D

Waiting for LJL to reply ? :D

AdamWest
01-07-2018, 12:04 AM
Waiting for LJL to reply ? :D

Who is LJL?

nitecrawllerr
01-07-2018, 02:11 PM
Who is LJL?

Lang Jiao Lang?:D

sharklaserscom
01-07-2018, 08:56 PM
Lang Jiao Lang?:D
Must be :D :D:D

pukimak0
01-07-2018, 11:33 PM
PLANNING, SPENDING AND MAKING FRIENDS

Before deciding on these purchases, Dr Ng reiterated that the SAF had considered whether they would contribute to a leaner fighting force post-2030. “Because we are able to plan long term, we start with the planning perimeter that you have to either maintain the same capability or do more but with less,” he said.

As for the costs, Dr Ng said even with these new acquisitions, defence spending will be kept steady for the next decade, in line with the budget assessment he made earlier this year. “If we have to provide security coverage – as we did for the Trump-Kim meeting – every week, all bets are off,” he joked.

Read more at https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/saf-f16-fighter-jet-replacement-new-fighting-machines-10485834

pukimak0
03-07-2018, 04:49 AM
Real not?

https://postimg.cc/image/valm6b9h9/
https://forums.$$$$$$$$$$$$.com.sg/115206801-post339.html

skyleon
03-07-2018, 01:08 PM
What’s happened so far since the Trump-Kim summit in S’pore? Not much, really.

Critics are not at all surprised.

By Kayla Wong | July 3, 2018


Nearly three weeks have passed since the highly-anticipated summit that took place on June 12 in Singapore between North Korean leader Kim Jong-un and U.S. President Donald Trump.



What has happened since then?

For one, there has been no evidence of North Korea starting on the process of denuclearisation, despite Trump saying last week that the regime was blowing up four of its big test sites and that a process of “total denuclearisation… has already started”.

Here are some other developments, or the lack of, since then.


Nuclear sites being expanded

Latest satellite images show Pyongyang finishing construction at the Chemical Material Institute, which researchers say is based in the North Korean city of Hamhung.

The facility is said to produce parts for North Korea’s missile programme.

In addition, The Washington Post reported that U.S. intelligence officials had concluded from evidence obtained in the wake of the June 12 summit that North Korea does not intend to fully give up its nuclear stockpile.

The evidence also reportedly shows that North Korea is planning to deceive the U.S. about the number of nuclear warheads it has, as well as the existence of undisclosed facilities that manufacture fissile material for nuclear bombs.

Trump: “Possible” things might not work out

Trump has also played down hopes for any substantial progress towards North Korea’s denuclearisation.

He said in an interview with Fox Business on Sunday, July 1, that it was “possible” the nuclear deal with North Korea might not “work out”:


“I made a deal with him, I shook hands with him, I really believe he means it.

Now, is it possible? Have I been in deals, have you been in things where, people didn’t work out?

It’s possible.”

His words stood in stark contrast to the ones he made in a tweet after his return from the summit, in which he said “there is no longer a nuclear threat from North Korea”.



continue reading here : https://mothership.sg/2018/07/what-happened-after-trump-kim-summit/



What I am interested in has this summit which was held in Singapore and paid for by the PAP Government have any impact on the Singapore economy and its common Singaporean people or not ?

skyleon
03-07-2018, 01:12 PM
PLANNING, SPENDING AND MAKING FRIENDS

Before deciding on these purchases, Dr Ng reiterated that the SAF had considered whether they would contribute to a leaner fighting force post-2030. “Because we are able to plan long term, we start with the planning perimeter that you have to either maintain the same capability or do more but with less,” he said.

As for the costs, Dr Ng said even with these new acquisitions, defence spending will be kept steady for the next decade, in line with the budget assessment he made earlier this year. “If we have to provide security coverage – as we did for the Trump-Kim meeting – every week, all bets are off,” he joked.

Read more at https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/saf-f16-fighter-jet-replacement-new-fighting-machines-10485834


Mate have you forgotten not too long ago that the SAF Terrex was detained by Hong Kong customs ? Also recently Singapore's military hardware servers were hacked and sensitive information was leaked . So how can we trus him ? Also we must also remember those brave young soldiers who died while protecting our country . Who is going to protect them from unnecessary deaths ????

Deancafe
03-07-2018, 01:18 PM
20 mil can give to various charity organizations Liao ma! So hao lian for what?

Really no eyes to see.

Couldn't be bothered with what I have no say.

Instapound
03-07-2018, 07:15 PM
Really no eyes to see.

Couldn't be bothered with what I have no say.

My exact sentiments.

JoesephToh
03-07-2018, 08:03 PM
Looks like someone really bohji and boahlampar run road liao . :D

moneytarik
03-07-2018, 10:58 PM
Looks like someone really bohji and boahlampar run road liao . :D

Who is someone ? :D

MusoWrestler
03-07-2018, 11:03 PM
Lang Jiao Lang?:D

Which one? Must be more specific :D