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glfingers
18-08-2017, 06:13 PM
Don't read this article if you are not ready to quit commercial sex.

"I was a life-long user of commercial sex. I started using prostitute when I entered National Service and earned my first "paycheck".
Even though the NS allowance was so paltry in the 1980s, I still spent half of it on my first book-out on a Malaysian Cat 50 in Geylang.

Through my teens, 20s, 30s and early 40s, I have never thought twice about paying for sex. I tried to quit when I first got married. (successful for 1 month) and again after my first child (successful for 3 months)
I gave up trying after that. I would score once or twice a week - mostly at legal joints but switched to streetwalkers in the mid 2000s during the invasion of the Mei Mei's in Lor 8,10,12.

In my 30s, I wanted to quit because I was worried about contracting an STD and infecting my wife and future children. One would be very, very,very lucky to escape herpes (HSV 1 and 2) given that:
(1) it cannot be prevented with condom use;
(2) legal working girls are not tested for herpes
(3) most carriers are asymptomatic

I knew of the risk but I could only mitigate it by always using a condom and avoiding cunnilingus and BBBJ fellatio.

I thought, it I "played safe" I can have my cake and eat it too.
But Man proposes, God disposes.

Shortly after my son's 7th birthday, I received a distraught call from his grandfather, my father. I've never seen my father cry, but over the phone, I can hear him sniffing back tears.
" Your son's rash....it's herpes!"
My little boy has been the pride and joy of his grandfather and the old man dotes on him. I tried to pooh-pooh the absurd diagnosis of a 78 year-old retiree who has never been to medical school. But before I could say more, the old man blurted out that it was different time and culture in the swinging 60's.
He grew up in Geylang and frequented his neighbours.
He was sorry he had infected my mother and all my siblings neonatally, but what he couldn't forgive himself for was for the fate of his favourite grandchild.
I HAVE HERPES?
I HAVE HERPES!
After being so "lucky" for so long?

As I tried to take in the shocking revelation, I was playing out all the various scenarios. Was it all just a misdiagnosis? Should I get myself tested? Did I get herpes from my mother neonatally or did I contract it unwittingly over the past decades from one of the thousands of women I had sex with?

As I ploughed all my energy into researching the disease, I was slapped with the cold hard truth : The old man was right. I had herpes HSV all my life. The jock itch, the blisters, the tingling fingertips, the mysterious low grade fever before the rashes.
Too be absolutely sure, I went to see a doctor when my next outbreak occurred and my fears were quickly confirmed.

Did that change my sexual habit?

Not really.

Firstly, my wife- to my best knowledge is- asymptomatic. But for her to infect my son, she is definitely a carrier.

After I knew I was a carrier, I avoided visiting prostitutes during my viral shedding phase.

But here is the strange part of the story.

After knowing that I have infected my wife and my child, I begin worrying about infecting the prostitutes and their future children.

I begin to chat more with the prostitutes, finding out about their family, if they have children, etc.

That was when my attitude towards commercial sex started to change.

In my conversations with the Thai Cat50s, many of them had incredibly sad stories.

One girl had to prostitute herself because her father had cancer.

Another college girl had to pay for medical bills for her mother who was run-over by a truck.

A young mother was forced into the trade when her husband fell to his death at a construction site leaving her without support.

These stories and many. many more made me very depressed.
I realise, when I use the sexual service of these women, they can't say no.
Or at least, they were under the impression that they cannot reject a client without good reason.
When saying 'no' is not an option, the sex is forced on them.
There is term of that in civil society – RAPE
That makes me a rapist and a willing customer of the PAP - the biggest pimp in Singapore.

The urge to sow one's wild oats is immensely strong, primal, biological and some will almost rightly argue, natural.

The only emotion just as basic, primal and natural that can overcome sexual urge is SELF- LOVE.

When I saw myself as different from a rapist scoundrel, I finally quit commercial sex and I'm now sober for over two year."

akapat
19-08-2017, 11:17 AM
well said bro. Really touching.

akasam
19-08-2017, 11:19 AM
How does herpes affect one life bro? Does it have cure? You mention you have it since birth. But did not realise it. Means no medication throughout.

gangban
19-08-2017, 11:21 AM
Does your wife know about it bro?

wolfgang127
19-08-2017, 11:21 AM
What goes aroubd, comes around. Indeed a sad story.

jacksontay88
19-08-2017, 11:23 AM
Sometimes its not about quitting. We visit pros, i would say, many times its to fell the emotional gap in our heart. Something that we coould not find elsewhere.

needyneed
19-08-2017, 11:24 AM
Are you takinf medication now bro? So do you still need to wear condom while making out with your wife? What about the kid? Need medication for life? Any chance to fully get rid of the herpes in his body?

joanne321
19-08-2017, 11:26 AM
So sad to hear this. Especially the kid. A very innocent party.:(

news799
19-08-2017, 11:28 AM
Whatever we do, the implication of our children is the worse it could have happen to us.I feel for you bro.

casey4341
19-08-2017, 11:33 AM
does your wife know bro?

manly29876
19-08-2017, 11:34 AM
whats the cure for the kid? Can use medisave?

malik321
19-08-2017, 11:35 AM
camping for more...pls update

futureme
19-08-2017, 11:44 AM
take care of your family bro.be strong

abclover
19-08-2017, 02:42 PM
This is pretty interesting. Herpes can be pass on for 3 generation? :confused:I thought there is pre natal checks? And it is supposedly can check for all this?

tommyleesg
19-08-2017, 10:40 PM
Test for herpes is not very accurate. But taking samples from sample will be a lot more accurate.

CTOA3728
20-08-2017, 07:01 PM
Don't read this article if you are not ready to quit commercial sex.

"I was a life-long user of commercial sex. I started using prostitute when I entered National Service and earned my first "paycheck".
Even though the NS allowance was so paltry in the 1980s, I still spent half of it on my first book-out on a Malaysian Cat 50 in Geylang.

Through my teens, 20s, 30s and early 40s, I have never thought twice about paying for sex. I tried to quit when I first got married. (successful for 1 month) and again after my first child (successful for 3 months)
I gave up trying after that. I would score once or twice a week - mostly at legal joints but switched to streetwalkers in the mid 2000s during the invasion of the Mei Mei's in Lor 8,10,12.

In my 30s, I wanted to quit because I was worried about contracting an STD and infecting my wife and future children. One would be very, very,very lucky to escape herpes (HSV 1 and 2) given that:
(1) it cannot be prevented with condom use;
(2) legal working girls are not tested for herpes
(3) most carriers are asymptomatic

I knew of the risk but I could only mitigate it by always using a condom and avoiding cunnilingus and BBBJ fellatio.

I thought, it I "played safe" I can have my cake and eat it too.
But Man proposes, God disposes.

Shortly after my son's 7th birthday, I received a distraught call from his grandfather, my father. I've never seen my father cry, but over the phone, I can hear him sniffing back tears.
" Your son's rash....it's herpes!"
My little boy has been the pride and joy of his grandfather and the old man dotes on him. I tried to pooh-pooh the absurd diagnosis of a 78 year-old retiree who has never been to medical school. But before I could say more, the old man blurted out that it was different time and culture in the swinging 60's.
He grew up in Geylang and frequented his neighbours.
He was sorry he had infected my mother and all my siblings neonatally, but what he couldn't forgive himself for was for the fate of his favourite grandchild.
I HAVE HERPES?
I HAVE HERPES!
After being so "lucky" for so long?

As I tried to take in the shocking revelation, I was playing out all the various scenarios. Was it all just a misdiagnosis? Should I get myself tested? Did I get herpes from my mother neonatally or did I contract it unwittingly over the past decades from one of the thousands of women I had sex with?

As I ploughed all my energy into researching the disease, I was slapped with the cold hard truth : The old man was right. I had herpes HSV all my life. The jock itch, the blisters, the tingling fingertips, the mysterious low grade fever before the rashes.
Too be absolutely sure, I went to see a doctor when my next outbreak occurred and my fears were quickly confirmed.

Did that change my sexual habit?

Not really.

Firstly, my wife- to my best knowledge is- asymptomatic. But for her to infect my son, she is definitely a carrier.

After I knew I was a carrier, I avoided visiting prostitutes during my viral shedding phase.

But here is the strange part of the story.

After knowing that I have infected my wife and my child, I begin worrying about infecting the prostitutes and their future children.

I begin to chat more with the prostitutes, finding out about their family, if they have children, etc.

That was when my attitude towards commercial sex started to change.

In my conversations with the Thai Cat50s, many of them had incredibly sad stories.

One girl had to prostitute herself because her father had cancer.

Another college girl had to pay for medical bills for her mother who was run-over by a truck.

A young mother was forced into the trade when her husband fell to his death at a construction site leaving her without support.

These stories and many. many more made me very depressed.
I realise, when I use the sexual service of these women, they can't say no.
Or at least, they were under the impression that they cannot reject a client without good reason.
When saying 'no' is not an option, the sex is forced on them.
There is term of that in civil society – RAPE
That makes me a rapist and a willing customer of the PAP - the biggest pimp in Singapore.

The urge to sow one's wild oats is immensely strong, primal, biological and some will almost rightly argue, natural.

The only emotion just as basic, primal and natural that can overcome sexual urge is SELF- LOVE.

When I saw myself as different from a rapist scoundrel, I finally quit commercial sex and I'm now sober for over two year."

The sins of the father are visited upon the son..... that is Karma.
Do more merits to break the chain. :)

comrade2
24-08-2017, 12:09 AM
nice read bro.

bayter
24-08-2017, 12:27 AM
is there an update?

yaber
24-08-2017, 01:49 AM
continue bro.

arsenal_84
27-08-2017, 10:49 AM
is really unfortunate that herpes cannot be prevented with condom.
perhaps to a herpes carrier, their best friend is probably their master hand.

the whole point is that they would need to abstain from commercial sex if it really helps to stop spreading the disease around.

nickharold
12-09-2017, 01:25 AM
To all those bros out there asking bout medication: No, there is no cure for herpes. Its a sort of a virus that just appears when it does/doesn't. And no, herpes cannot be curbed by condom.

I am young (think under 22) and still cheonging (as long as my finances allow it) but sometimes this thing really make me think ah. No wife yet, but cheong so much, next time daiji come out how? But like what one bro say, really just to fill this emptiness. :(

sammyboyfor
19-09-2017, 11:37 AM
To all those bros out there asking bout medication: No, there is no cure for herpes. Its a sort of a virus that just appears when it does/doesn't. And no, herpes cannot be curbed by condom.

I am young (think under 22) and still cheonging (as long as my finances allow it) but sometimes this thing really make me think ah. No wife yet, but cheong so much, next time daiji come out how? But like what one bro say, really just to fill this emptiness. :(

Almost everybody has Herpes so it is no big deal.

http://pedsinreview.aappublications.org/content/30/4/119.extract

Most adults are infected with HSV and carry latent viruses, but the serotype, severity of symptoms, and mode of transmission vary with age. Children are infected primarily with orolabial HSV1 by 5 years of age, with infection rates of 33% in populations that are of lower socioeconomic status and 20% in those who have improved socioeconomic status.

By adulthood, HSV1 affects 70% to 80% in the lower socioeconomic population and 40% to 60% in the higher socioeconomic population. (1) Globally, the prevalence of HSV1 increases consistently with age, reaching 40% by age 15 years and increasing to 60% to 90% in older adults. (2) In the United States, the prevalence of HSV1 increases consistently with age, from 26.3% in 6- to 7-year-old children and 36.1% in 12- to 13-year-old children to 90% among those older than 70 years. (2)(3)