Understanding Vietnamese Life Partner

[Hurricane88]

Haha...i heard Singlish and they are always very loud....
Ya...agreed it's a worthy transaction....

you must be located in a tourist places to hear singlish in Vietnam...I hardly heard any singlish when I am in Vietnam becos I avoid tourist places...:)

[Hurricane88]

Hi...in my quote, i didn't say buy eggs in the street are all rotten eggs..
I'm saying a basket of eggs inside got good and bad. Buy from the supermarket chances of getting bad eggs is lower then buying on the street.

So much clearer what you just wrote...:)

I went back to re-read your previous post...not exactly what you wrote now...:)

What you written above highlighted in red is also very subjective...not here to argue...:)

[alan1999]

So much clearer what you just wrote...:)

I went back to re-read your previous post...not exactly what you wrote now...:)

What you written above highlighted in red is also very subjective...not here to argue...:)

No worries....:) I know you have been in Vietnam for quite some time. I read most of your notes but for me i seldom give comments. understood lah....we r just giving comments for the good sake of Sinkees man coming here for paradise...

[alan1999]

you must be located in a tourist places to hear singlish in Vietnam...I hardly heard any singlish when I am in Vietnam becos I avoid tourist places...:)

Haha...i like to go tourist area bcs always hear only Vietnamese and kind of missed Singlish. Haha.....

[Hurricane88]

No worries....:) I know you have been in Vietnam for quite some time. I read most of your notes but for me i seldom give comments. understood lah....we r just giving comments for the good sake of Sinkees man coming here for paradise...

good, keep sharing your comments...:)

I had stopped giving comments becos nothing new to say...:)

[alan1999]

We read here with a pinch of salt....:)

For any country, you need to be there often enough to see for yourself...no point hearsay...going as tourist few days also not enough to understand...takes time to observe and understand a person...if anyone had encountered only 1 or 2 incidents also cannot take as norm becos sample size too small for a big country...:)

Agreed above quote.
Remembered coming here to work 8 years+ ago. When reached Vietnam, was going ard looking for job. Guessed luck was not with me then. Couldn't found any job even lowered expectation. Was jobless for 3 months until someone introduced a job to me. Took up the job, a Hanoi boss. Remembered the first 3 months, i was super on the ball 'Singapore type of mentality'.
Haha....how wrong i were. Everything just got upside down. Boss came and have a discussion with me. It actually opens me úp! From then onwards, i put in a lot of effort to understand Vietnam and it's people. The culture...their mentality, their way of lives....so many so many.

[alan1999]

Agreed above quote.
Remembered coming here to work 8 years+ ago. When reached Vietnam, was going ard looking for job. Guessed luck was not with me then. Couldn't found any job even lowered expectation. Was jobless for 3 months until someone introduced a job to me. Took up the job, a Hanoi boss. Remembered the first 3 months, i was super on the ball 'Singapore type of mentality'.
Haha....how wrong i were. Everything just got upside down. Boss came and have a discussion with me. It actually opens me úp! From then onwards, i put in a lot of effort to understand Vietnam and it's people. The culture...their mentality, their way of lives....so many so many.

It took me really at least a year to understand! Even went back to wife hometown, An qiang! Wow....really country side! At night, it's really dark and even went to go pee....must take tourch light and walk out to nearby toilet. Haha....
After that visit, next year Tet skip as i really dun like country side. Slowly learned to accept all these.
Now....always back to country side thrice a year and i am actually looking forward to it. Lye down under the tree tie swing, smoking and relaxing....hm...really relaxed! Mind is so carefree. See my son running around the garden area, enjoying himself.....wife and her parents cooking up home made food, it's really priceless. :) Can't wait for coming Tet.....

[alan1999]

It took me really at least a year to understand! Even went back to wife hometown, An qiang! Wow....really country side! At night, it's really dark and even went to go pee....must take tourch light and walk out to nearby toilet. Haha....
After that visit, next year Tet skip as i really dun like country side. Slowly learned to accept all these.
Now....always back to country side thrice a year and i am actually looking forward to it. Lye down under the tree tie swing, smoking and relaxing....hm...really relaxed! Mind is so carefree. See my son running around the garden area, enjoying himself.....wife and her parents cooking up home made food, it's really priceless. :) Can't wait for coming Tet.....

It took me a year to understand Vietnam well!
Example Money:
My staff were earning ard USD 300/month while i were earning USD 5,000/month. End of money..it seems they can even save while mine are all gone! Haha...slowly i learn to eat on the street, bought a moto and ride like a local. Hm...learn to drink a juice smoothies in the street rather then drinking it in a restaurant! A huge difference! Learn to buy clothes in the street market rather then in shopping centres! So u c...there are really a lot of things to learn and see!

[Hurricane88]

It took me really at least a year to understand! Even went back to wife hometown, An qiang! Wow....really country side! At night, it's really dark and even went to go pee....must take tourch light and walk out to nearby toilet. Haha....
After that visit, next year Tet skip as i really dun like country side. Slowly learned to accept all these.
Now....always back to country side thrice a year and i am actually looking forward to it. Lye down under the tree tie swing, smoking and relaxing....hm...really relaxed! Mind is so carefree. See my son running around the garden area, enjoying himself.....wife and her parents cooking up home made food, it's really priceless. :) Can't wait for coming Tet.....

Hope you dun mind me comment here...:)

Lie down under the tree tie swing = hammock

I remembered using my phone torchlight to go pee...:p

I like Chau Doc and not Long Xuyen in An Giang...prefer Can Tho though...:)

you forgot to mentioned all the mozzies too would love your kids fresh blood...&&

[alan1999]

It took me a year to understand Vietnam well!
Example Money:
My staff were earning ard USD 300/month while i were earning USD 5,000/month. End of money..it seems they can even save while mine are all gone! Haha...slowly i learn to eat on the street, bought a moto and ride like a local. Hm...learn to drink a juice smoothies in the street rather then drinking it in a restaurant! A huge difference! Learn to buy clothes in the street market rather then in shopping centres! So u c...there are really a lot of things to learn and see!

Haha...remembered going to wet market to buy food. Whenever they heard my Vietnamese, the price will be at least double! Me so angry! Slowly but learned to accept it. Stop by police for speeding, need to pay at least 500,000 vnd when the police heard my Vietnamese while the locals need to pay only 200,000 vnd!
To be honest, going through all these makes me street smart! You will never learn all these in Singapore, a protected country. For the last 8 years, i only went back Singapore once, i dun really missed Singapore. For me, i decided to stay here until i die....even thought of giving up Singapore passport, bring everything over to Vietnam....

[Hurricane88]

Haha...remembered going to wet market to buy food. Whenever they heard my Vietnamese, the price will be at least double! Me so angry! Slowly but learned to accept it. Stop by police for speeding, need to pay at least 500,000 vnd when the police heard my Vietnamese while the locals need to pay only 200,000 vnd!
To be honest, going through all these makes me street smart! You will never learn all these in Singapore, a protected country. For the last 8 years, i only went back Singapore once, i dun really missed Singapore. For me, i decided to stay here until i die....even thought of giving up Singapore passport, bring everything over to Vietnam....

I had the opposite...whenever I go buy food or groceries, I got cheaper or more...I always go back to the shops that give me best deal...always walk a few or ask a local Viet friend to go with me first time and those shops are friends...:)

I always pillion rider so no chance to be stopped...always like the feel of holding the waist of my gal...:)

I had planned what you thought of about staying in Vietnam but not to give up my sinkieland citizenship...more so as backup plan...but will stay long after my retirement which is imminent...:)

[alan1999]

Hope you dun mind me comment here...:)

Lie down under the tree tie swing = hammock

I remembered using my phone torchlight to go pee...:p

I like Chau Doc and not Long Xuyen in An Giang...prefer Can Tho though...:)

you forgot to mentioned all the mozzies too would love your kids fresh blood...&&

Hammock....got it.
Hm...during that time urgent, wife passed me a torch light and me dashed to toilet liao....ya hor....forgot about my hp light...
Can tho a nice place to live in as well.....very slow and cost of living is very low....recently saw Vingroup opened up Vincom and 5 star hotel....wow...slowly the cost of living might goes up?
Haha.....for the mozzies, we are prepared. we apply a lot of mozzies spray!
Cannot sleep at night...so many of them flying here and there but important thing is...we really enjoyed ourselves there.....

[alan1999]

I had the opposite...whenever I go buy food or groceries, I got cheaper or more...I always go back to the shops that give me best deal...always walk a few or ask a local Viet friend to go with me first time and those shops are friends...:)

I always pillion rider so no chance to be stopped...always like the feel of holding the waist of my gal...:)

I had planned what you thought of about staying in Vietnam but not to give up my sinkieland citizenship...more so as backup plan...but will stay long after my retirement which is imminent...:)

Hm...ya...maybe i didn't walk a few...mostly i went there alone....
Ya....me also only thought lah...no action yet.Just came back from north side, work there for 2 years+. Just recently purchase an apartment in dist 2. If can give up passport, can take CPF monies and buy a few more apartment here n rent out so when old, no need to work so hard liao.

[alan1999]

I had the opposite...whenever I go buy food or groceries, I got cheaper or more...I always go back to the shops that give me best deal...always walk a few or ask a local Viet friend to go with me first time and those shops are friends...:)

I always pillion rider so no chance to be stopped...always like the feel of holding the waist of my gal...:)

I had planned what you thought of about staying in Vietnam but not to give up my sinkieland citizenship...more so as backup plan...but will stay long after my retirement which is imminent...:)

Hm....we seems to think same...:) next time when u're bored, come find me. Beer and makan on mé! Place in Dist 1. we can talk cock and let time passed faster.....

[Hurricane88]

Hm....we seems to think same...:) next time when u're bored, come find me. Beer and makan on mé! Place in Dist 1. we can talk cock and let time passed faster.....

I had stopped meeting ppl I dun know for past 2 years...when I go Vietnam I only meet my local friends and time already flew past daily...hope you dun feel offended with what I written about not meeting you...:)

[alan1999]

I had stopped meeting ppl I dun know for past 2 years...when I go Vietnam I only meet my local friends and time already flew past daily...hope you dun feel offended with what I written about not meeting you...:)

I'm good...no worries.

[naemlo]

It took me a year to understand Vietnam well!
Example Money:
My staff were earning ard USD 300/month while i were earning USD 5,000/month. End of money..it seems they can even save while mine are all gone!

I am curious how u spent USD 5000 per mth in Vietnam?? :confused::rolleyes:

[Hurricane88]

I am curious how u spent USD 5000 per mth in Vietnam?? :confused::rolleyes:

You very sharp leh...I dare not asked...wonder how to earn USD 5k per month working in Wetnam...:)

[alan1999]

I am curious how u spent USD 5000 per mth in Vietnam?? :confused::rolleyes:

How ar....just spend lor...stay nice place....eat good food....buy this buy that...go New world casino....
But now no more liao...Mostly did all those during my second year in Vietnam...

[alan1999]

You very sharp leh...I dare not asked...wonder how to earn USD 5k per month working in Wetnam...:)

Haha....mayb i were lucky. Anyway it's a long story. My first boss was a very high ranking police officer...He can speak very good chinese. i used to be one of his runner. It is through him i came to know of many people....black and white. It is also through him that i met my second boss. Went over to Hanoi and worked for him for 2 years....recently just quited and came back to Saigon.
All my 8 years here, i have 3 bosses, one after another, all from Hanoi.

All i can say is that i am lucky and maybe they felt comfortable with me and i stayed royal and committed to them. Northern rich people can pay....if they like you and trust you. Of course they only wants to make use of your strength for their business. That's all. For me, i were lucky as along the way, they treated me like a younger brother.

[alan1999]

You very sharp leh...I dare not asked...wonder how to earn USD 5k per month working in Wetnam...:)

Anyway...i were very active in my seond to fifth year in Vietnam. Apart from my work, i also involved in some other things which expat cannot settle their problem in Vietnam. I use my connection and earn commission from it. That is why i came across many stories invovled Singaporean and Malaysian. Some i really pity them while some are just asking for it. It's a complicated stories lah.

As for now, just working for my 3rd Hanoi boss. this boss is a bit slow and steady type. Not so much of pressure but he is a fucking rich man!!!

[alan1999]

You very sharp leh...I dare not asked...wonder how to earn USD 5k per month working in Wetnam...:)

Like i mentioned, i were very lucky then....the most important thing is you must stay royal and committed to them. To them, money and face are number 1 factor!
My last 8 years are like a runner in a marathon! Running and running all the time. Only rewarding is in-between two side, i make a small commission from the request party. Apart from these, i also have to take care of their other business as well.

[naemlo]

You very sharp leh...I dare not asked...wonder how to earn USD 5k per month working in Wetnam...

I am curious.... spent 5k USD. :eek::D Ppl always tell me, listen only, this is virtual world... but I a bit itchy so like to find out.


How ar....just spend lor...stay nice place....eat good food....buy this buy that...go New world casino....
But now no more liao...Mostly did all those during my second year in Vietnam...

Can break down how u spent 5k USD??? I spent avg per mth was about 1-1.5k USD when I was in Hanoi. My modern 1 yrs old condo rental in Nguyen Chi Thanh with 2 rooms was 800 USD, paid by my company.

I spent on roughly.... btw this was about 7 yrs ago.

1) mobile, 20 USD
2) utilities, 50 USD
3) internet, 30 USD
4) transportation, 200USD
5) food 300 USD
6) KTVs, bars, pubs, 500 USD
7) misc 200 USD

I still can't figure out how u spent 5k??? U every month donate to casino. Good food every meal also boring... once in awhile will eat street food which was about 1-3 USD. I remember a delicious Pho Bo near my condo was about 20 or 25k VND.

U were lucky to have a Vietnamese to employ u, paying u 5k USD, btw u dun have to pay income tax??? For me, I am employed by SG company, paying SG tax.

[alan1999]

I am curious.... spent 5k USD. :eek::D Ppl always tell me, listen only, this is virtual world... but I a bit itchy so like to find out.




Can break down how u spent 5k USD??? I spent avg per mth was about 1-1.5k USD when I was in Hanoi. My modern 1 yrs old condo rental in Nguyen Chi Thanh with 2 rooms was 800 USD, paid by my company.

I spent on roughly.... btw this was about 7 yrs ago.

1) mobile, 20 USD
2) utilities, 50 USD
3) internet, 30 USD
4) transportation, 200USD
5) food 300 USD
6) KTVs, bars, pubs, 500 USD
7) misc 200 USD

I still can't figure out how u spent 5k??? U every month donate to casino. Good food every meal also boring... once in awhile will eat street food which was about 1-3 USD. I remember a delicious Pho Bo near my condo was about 20 or 25k VND.

U were lucky to have a Vietnamese to employ u, paying u 5k USD, btw u dun have to pay income tax??? For me, I am employed by SG company, paying SG tax.

Hi Naemlo
Hm....how to breakdown...guessed mine involved 4 persons. My wife, son and her mother as well.
Of course not everyday eat good food lah...but i like to go to Chinese restaurant. Main reason is i cannot adapt to Vietnamese food even until today. Only a few dishes.

Yes, i did highlight that i were very lucky to be employed by a Vietnamese. Income tax, my boss settled for me. He has his way of declaring lesser on the tax.

Maybe you dun know my scope of work...paying me USD 5k is worth his money. I have to take care of his ENT business. 1 disco, 1 pub, 1 hotel & 2 restaurant. On top of that, need to help out his wife business. But the main business is runner. Sort of complicated. Expat need help in their business, i'm the middle man between expat and my boss. Every closed deal i earn at least 5% of amount. That will be my side income.

[FireShark]

1 new Truth Story to share with all Samsters.

Recently; I heard from my friend that 1 Ignorance; stupid and idiotic Singaporean gave $100K to a vb which he know her for 3 months. This guy A doesn't know that this vb already had a boyfriend in Singapore. They had been together for several years. Because this guy are able to accommodate her requirements; she ditched her previous lover (who had been together for 5 years). Why in this world there is such people who willing to give S$100K to a vb so easily. Pussy got Diamond also no need to give so much.

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[FireShark]

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[alan1999]

I am curious.... spent 5k USD. :eek::D Ppl always tell me, listen only, this is virtual world... but I a bit itchy so like to find out.




Can break down how u spent 5k USD??? I spent avg per mth was about 1-1.5k USD when I was in Hanoi. My modern 1 yrs old condo rental in Nguyen Chi Thanh with 2 rooms was 800 USD, paid by my company.

I spent on roughly.... btw this was about 7 yrs ago.

1) mobile, 20 USD
2) utilities, 50 USD
3) internet, 30 USD
4) transportation, 200USD
5) food 300 USD
6) KTVs, bars, pubs, 500 USD
7) misc 200 USD

I still can't figure out how u spent 5k??? U every month donate to casino. Good food every meal also boring... once in awhile will eat street food which was about 1-3 USD. I remember a delicious Pho Bo near my condo was about 20 or 25k VND.

U were lucky to have a Vietnamese to employ u, paying u 5k USD, btw u dun have to pay income tax??? For me, I am employed by SG company, paying SG tax.

Ya...i am lucky

[alan1999]

Example:
Singapore expat & Viet gf open a pub. One of the tough license to get is the liq license, esp in Dist 1. The Government no longer issue as they felt Dist 1 is overcrowded with all these. They have to go side way and i am their side way. Local runner will connect me to them. All earn commission. 2-3 ways of getting that license...and those license dun comes cheap.

Last year a Malaysian man approach me to get wine import license. North government refused to issue..even the Malaysian man willing to pay USD 60,000 for that license!

Whole system is very complicated...a lot of travelling as well.
3rd year and my boss's boss took me in and i flew to Hanoi and worked for him for 3 years. Introduced a Malaysian friend to work for him last year as i felt it's enough for me. Found a rich Hanoi boss and help him to take care of his restaurants business. He open restaurants for his passion, that is how rich he is. Flew back to Saigon as wife dun really like to settle down in North. Second boss buy me an apartment in Dist 8 as a gift when i left. Just bought another apartment in Dist 2 for my wife. We are currently staying in Dist 2 new apartment while Dist 8 apartment is rented out to a Singaporean.

[FireShark]

Whole system is very complicated...a lot of travelling as well.
3rd year and my boss's boss took me in and i flew to Hanoi and worked for him for 3 years. Introduced a Malaysian friend to work for him last year as i felt it's enough for me. Found a rich Hanoi boss and help him to take care of his restaurants business. He open restaurants for his passion, that is how rich he is. Flew back to Saigon as wife dun really like to settle down in North. Second boss buy me an apartment in Dist 8 as a gift when i left. Just bought another apartment in Dist 2 for my wife. We are currently staying in Dist 2 new apartment while Dist 8 apartment is rented out to a Singaporean.

Can Sporean own a property in Vietnam??? The apartment under your name?

[alan1999]

Can Sporean own a property in Vietnam??? The apartment under your name?

Ya....Expat can own selected properties in Vietnam. Condo is one of the selected.

[naemlo]

Hm....how to breakdown...guessed mine involved 4 persons. My wife, son and her mother as well.
Of course not everyday eat good food lah...but i like to go to Chinese restaurant. Main reason is i cannot adapt to Vietnamese food even until today. Only a few dishes.



I am not interested on how u earn your money.... everyone has his ways of earning money. I am more interested or curious on how u spend your money.

U mentioned 4 persons spending this money... but your MIL is in country side.... how much can she spent?? Your kid should be still young... guess the bulk of money was spent by your wife like a tai tai, go spa, saloon, LV, gucci?

Food wise, u might spend average 1k USD on normal and chinese restaurant in a month.

BTW, I still can't get how many yrs u been in VN... in 1 post, u mentioned 6+, another 7 then another 8 yrs.... so end of the day, how many yrs? :D

I am not trying to dig out or flame u but just want to provide right info to the readers. Spending 5k USD, ignorance readers might think VN living expenses are very high...worse than SG.

[alan1999]

I am not interested on how u earn your money.... everyone has his ways of earning money. I am more interested or curious on how u spend your money.

U mentioned 4 persons spending this money... but your MIL is in country side.... how much can she spent?? Your kid should be still young... guess the bulk of money was spent by your wife like a tai tai, go spa, saloon, LV, gucci?

Food wise, u might spend average 1k USD on normal and chinese restaurant in a month.

BTW, I still can't get how many yrs u been in VN... in 1 post, u mentioned 6+, another 7 then another 8 yrs.... so end of the day, how many yrs? :D

I am not trying to dig out or flame u but just want to provide right info to the readers. Spending 5k USD, ignorance readers might think VN living expenses are very high...worse than SG.

Hm...i came over here in Oct 2009...guess it's ard 7 years.
Ya, no worries on flaming part but i guess everyone got their own way or style of spending money. VN living standard expenses can be high or low, it really depends on you.

Example beer:
You can chose to drink beer along the streets which cost ard 25,000 vnd/bottle or going to a German restaurant to drink some import German beer which cost ard 150,000 vnd/bottle.

[alan1999]

[QUOTE=naemlo;15361928]I am curious.... spent 5k USD. :eek::D Ppl always tell me, listen only, this is virtual world... but I a bit itchy so like to find out.




Can break down how u spent 5k USD??? I spent avg per mth was about 1-1.5k USD when I was in Hanoi. My modern 1 yrs old condo rental in Nguyen Chi Thanh with 2 rooms was 800 USD, paid by my company.

I spent on roughly.... btw this was about 7 yrs ago.

1) mobile, 20 USD
2) utilities, 50 USD
3) internet, 30 USD
4) transportation, 200USD
5) food 300 USD
6) KTVs, bars, pubs, 500 USD
7) misc 200 USD

Your quoted way of your spending doesn't mean it applies to all...
Example;
2) Utilities: yours is 50 USD while mine is ard 150 usd/month.
6) KTVs/bar/pub; yours is 500 USD while mine can be 1,500 USD (you might be paying your shares only while i might be footing the whole bills due to business relations)
7) Misc: 200 USD while mine might be ard 1,000 USD.

There are many ways to spend money, it really depends on individual.
There are no right or wrong.

[Paulaner]

[QUOTE=naemlo;15361928]I am curious.... spent 5k USD. :eek::D Ppl always tell me, listen only, this is virtual world... but I a bit itchy so like to find out.




Can break down how u spent 5k USD??? I spent avg per mth was about 1-1.5k USD when I was in Hanoi. My modern 1 yrs old condo rental in Nguyen Chi Thanh with 2 rooms was 800 USD, paid by my company.

I spent on roughly.... btw this was about 7 yrs ago.

1) mobile, 20 USD
2) utilities, 50 USD
3) internet, 30 USD
4) transportation, 200USD
5) food 300 USD
6) KTVs, bars, pubs, 500 USD
7) misc 200 USD

Your quoted way of your spending doesn't mean it applies to all...
Example;
2) Utilities: yours is 50 USD while mine is ard 150 usd/month.
6) KTVs/bar/pub; yours is 500 USD while mine can be 1,500 USD (you might be paying your shares only while i might be footing the whole bills due to business relations)
7) Misc: 200 USD while mine might be ard 1,000 USD.

There are many ways to spend money, it really depends on individual.
There are no right or wrong.
Agree with YoY sometimes in 1 evening for 2 of us I can spent around S$400- 500 Sin , Dinner cost S$100 , 5 star hotel $180 , Drinks at Sky Bars S$150 , Supper S$50.
Depends on where u go and hang out.
I even had stayed before at the Reverie Saigon Hotel cost me S$500 estimates a nite.
Depends on lifestyle.
Is just like First Class , Business Class or enconmy class .....

[naemlo]

Agree with YoY sometimes in 1 evening for 2 of us I can spent around S$400- 500 Sin , Dinner cost S$100 , 5 star hotel $180 , Drinks at Sky Bars S$150 , Supper S$50.


Apple and orange... staying in a country and visiting a country is totally different. :rolleyes: As a tourist or monger in oversea, u might spend on the above due to the fact, u earn and save hard in your country n want to pamper yourself in oversea. Staying in a country, u dun spend 100 SGD every meal, u dun spend 180 SGD per night for accomodation, u dun supper 50 SGD every night and dun drink 150 SGD in pub every night.

Another ironic comparison, on business trip, I stayed in Shang, dinner in 5 stars restaurant, take SQ only.... end of the day, all paid by company. This is durian comparing to mango.

[naemlo]

Your quoted way of your spending doesn't mean it applies to all...
Example;
2) Utilities: yours is 50 USD while mine is ard 150 usd/month.
6) KTVs/bar/pub; yours is 500 USD while mine can be 1,500 USD (you might be paying your shares only while i might be footing the whole bills due to business relations)
7) Misc: 200 USD while mine might be ard 1,000 USD.


I will just take it, u donate the rest to new world monthly. :rolleyes:

[naemlo]

Recently; I heard from my friend that 1 Ignorance; stupid and idiotic Singaporean gave $100K to a vb which he know her for 3 months.

Another identical story :D I dun have 100k cash but 100k tadpoles. :D

[FireShark]

Another identical story :D I dun have 100k cash but 100k tadpoles. :D

Bro Identical Story?? Where you heard from? I heard this guy work as an Air Steward. Can Air Steward earn so much or got so much saving meh????

[Hurricane88]

Another identical story :D I dun have 100k cash but 100k tadpoles. :D

Me too...no have 100k cash in SGD...only have 100k VND...:)

Even have also will not give...:)

[FireShark]

Me too...no have 100k cash in SGD...only have 100k VND...:)

Even have also will not give...:)

hahaha That why I said don't know which Idiot again kena con. Furthermore the VB is not young. 30+ with 1 daughter I heard. If I got 100K; I would be able to pay my condo Down Payment.

[alan1999]

hahaha That why I said don't know which Idiot again kena con. Furthermore the VB is not young. 30+ with 1 daughter I heard. If I got 100K; I would be able to pay my condo Down Payment.

You serious????
The VB is 30+ and got a daughter....Wow....100K Sing!
This one really big time carrot!
Give me 100k i can sleep in New World for 1 week! Hehe....

[Hurricane88]

You serious????
The VB is 30+ and got a daughter....Wow....100K Sing!
This one really big time carrot!
Give me 100k i can sleep in New World for 1 week! Hehe....

SGD 100k,...I can live in Vn for 5 years comfortable...not luxury but comfy...:)

[FireShark]

SGD 100k,...I can live in Vn for 5 years comfortable...not luxury but comfy...:)

I wanna to buy a condo using that money

[naemlo]

Bro Identical Story?? Where you heard from? I heard this guy work as an Air Steward. Can Air Steward earn so much or got so much saving meh????

Identical as in giving money unconditionally to a ger. Sometimes, it is just hear and say....

Steward earning depends on seniority, flight route... Bulk of their salary is made up of allowance. Should be able to make SGD 3.5-6k.....

[FireShark]

Identical as in giving money unconditionally to a ger. Sometimes, it is just hear and say....

Steward earning depends on seniority, flight route... Bulk of their salary is made up of allowance. Should be able to make SGD 3.5-6k.....

I know; given he is a senior flight steward; how much he can save a year. 30K??? 3 year plus savings all give to a vb only know for few months. Ridiculous

[naemlo]

I know; given he is a senior flight steward; how much he can save a year. 30K??? 3 year plus savings all give to a vb only know for few months. Ridiculous

If save 3k per month, should be able to save 100k in 3 yrs. :D Deeply in love so give mah.... :D 1st few months are the best, most loving love :eek:

[Hurricane88]

I know; given he is a senior flight steward; how much he can save a year. 30K??? 3 year plus savings all give to a vb only know for few months. Ridiculous

If he will to do smuggling then his extra income will be alot...:)

[Paulaner]

Apple and orange... staying in a country and visiting a country is totally different. :rolleyes: As a tourist or monger in oversea, u might spend on the above due to the fact, u earn and save hard in your country n want to pamper yourself in oversea. Staying in a country, u dun spend 100 SGD every meal, u dun spend 180 SGD per night for accomodation, u dun supper 50 SGD every night and dun drink 150 SGD in pub every night.

Another ironic comparison, on business trip, I stayed in Shang, dinner in 5 stars restaurant, take SQ only.... end of the day, all paid by company. This is durian comparing to mango.
My rental in Q7 cost me US $ 1300 a monthly, 3 bed room .
60% by company balance I pay the difference.
International Schools cause me a bomb ... by 50% co share.

[naemlo]

Agree with YoY sometimes in 1 evening for 2 of us I can spent around S$400- 500 Sin , Dinner cost S$100 , 5 star hotel $180 , Drinks at Sky Bars S$150 , Supper S$50.


My rental in Q7 cost me US $ 1300 a monthly, 3 bed room .

U are living in VN? So u work in Vietnam or a tourist? Anyway, I always say in a forum, most of us will boast a bit so just read and enjoy the forum. :D

[Paulaner]

U are living in VN? So u work in Vietnam or a tourist? Anyway, I always say in a forum, most of us will boast a bit so just read and enjoy the forum. :D
Binh Duong Province, 20km of Ho Chi Minh City ( SVIP)

[naemlo]

My rental in Q7 cost me US $ 1300 a monthly, 3 bed room .

Binh Duong Province, 20km of Ho Chi Minh City ( SVIP)

Either I am stupid or u are too clever for me to understand.. anyway again, I will just read as comic and let the other smarter samsters to understand.

[Bote]

Is Paulaner a clone of that loser Hoian....kkk.... or same as that Moronic Hoian who claim he have factory in binh duong but knew nuts abt vietnam....:D

Either I am stupid or u are too clever for me to understand.. anyway again, I will just read as comic and let the other smarter samsters to understand.

he LIVES in q7, works in binh duong everymoreing uses compnay bus to shuttle then to the factory, would be my interpretation

[naemlo]

Is Paulaner a clone of that loser Hoian....kkk.... or same as that Moronic Hoian who claim he have factory in binh duong but knew nuts abt vietnam....:D

He is just another balls juggler :D

https://feckthefees.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/wk1-js3_7866-border.jpg

[Paulaner]

he LIVES in q7, works in binh duong everymoreing uses compnay bus to shuttle then to the factory, would be my interpretation
Talk cock sing song

[Paulaner]

Either I am stupid or u are too clever for me to understand.. anyway again, I will just read as comic and let the other smarter samsters to understand.
Both as you mention

[Paulaner]

He is just another balls juggler :D

https://feckthefees.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/wk1-js3_7866-border.jpg
There are insufficient nuts in Vietnam
Lots of grains perhaps .....

[Paulaner]

he LIVES in q7, works in binh duong everymoreing uses compnay bus to shuttle then to the factory, would be my interpretation

No motor bike faster then company bus to binh duong

[wohaha96]

Hi all, I'm new here, I'm wondering why people keep saying want to do business in Vietnam.... Wouldn't it be better if you have a fully paid HDB in singapore, rent it out for $1+k to $2+k a month, then lives in vietnam?

[wohaha96]

i have a friend who solve every issue simply by whatever outcome that

benefit him the most.. " because he is the meaning of ultimate " self-center"..

between wife n mum, he choose wife.. what the logic? his wife will stay with

him until he die, which his mum sure lose..

fyi.. " his wife will rather die than leave my friend "..

regarding $$$$ issues, I have learn 1 thing.. if small $$$$, use $$$$..

bo problem liao..

if big $$$$$$? then, the issue is not about $$$$$$..

totally agree with you bro

[ahpiao]

Based on the contribution from guys in this thread. Seem like most guys here married a whore. What actually drive them to marry a whore?

[ahpiao2]

Based on the contribution from guys in this thread. Seem like most guys here married a whore. What actually drive them to marry a whore?

Seems like your future or current wife also a whore.:eek:

If you have nothing to contribute best to mind your own business.

[ahpiao]

It prick ur heart make u pain right? Come share ur stories of ur whore wife....:D

Nobody know who u are, just share ur story for the rest to learn..

Who knows maybe many sbf bro or me fuck her before. :p
We can exchange pointer abt the sensitive area on her.

Seems like your future or current wife also a whore.:eek:

If you have nothing to contribute best to mind your own business.

[ahpiao2]

It prick ur heart make u pain right? Come share ur stories of ur whore wife....:D

Nobody know who u are, just share ur story for the rest to learn..

Who knows maybe many sbf bro or me fuck her before. :p
We can exchange pointer abt the sensitive area on her.

Since you dun know who am I but I knew who you are.

My story here is simple, I saw your wife fark by your friends. haha.:eek: By the way saw your wife enjoyed the fark so much. haha:eek:

[ahpiao]

u knew who i am? :confused: :eek:

I think u have really good stories to share about ur whore wife.
I wont ask u to reveal ur original account....:rolleyes:

Pls do not get emotional and contribute ur story. It can benefit many bros here.

Since you dun know who am I but I knew who you are.

My story here is simple, I saw your wife fark by your friends. haha.:eek: By the way saw your wife enjoyed the fark so much.

[draco76x]

Walk passed the viet bride agency, saw a pretty lady that I liked but don't dare to go in.
Maybe, I'm still not ready to commit...

[FireShark]

We provide matchmaking service for Singaporeans men and Vietnamese women. If you want to marry a Viet lady, please check out our vietwife matchmaker website and facebook.



Please contact the admin for advertisement. If not you will be ban

[PornXCollection]

He is just another balls juggler :D

https://feckthefees.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/wk1-js3_7866-border.jpg

hahahahaha :D:D

[ruddy122]

Am thinking of moving to vietnam to stay , will appreciate if bros here especially those who are staying there or who frequent there often could let me know if its a wise idea for a Singaporean to do so.
Singapore is too expensive, stressful n unhappening for me while malaysia is too crime infested . Thailand have too many angmos for my liking n it recently tighten th rules to make it harder for foreigners to stay there long term .

So have to consider vietnam as it still looks to have a vibrant social scene for Singaporean men at the moment with medical care n living costs said to be considerably lower than sg .

[youmee]

Compare vietnam and thailand and even malaysia, i would prefer the latter 2 than vietnam. Personally, the food is not to my appetite, second public transport is a headache though taxi is reasonably cheap, but if you want stay long term, dont think you gg to cab around all day right? 3rd, if want to play, i think their nightlife is quite expensive and worse than singapore in certain places. So it really depend on individual, its a nono for me. For you, maybe yes.:cool:

[Kim91]

Long time never come in.. good to see some old timer here.. how are everyone?

[ruddy122]

Youme

thanks for the input, really need to get more thoughts from the seniors here as shifting base is something very troublesome that i hope to get right first time round . Someone say that Singaporeans cannot do visa run on a monthly basis to remain in vietnam , will appreciate if someone can enlighten me on this subject

[Kittenz]

Am thinking of moving to vietnam to stay , will appreciate if bros here especially those who are staying there or who frequent there often could let me know if its a wise idea for a Singaporean to do so.
Singapore is too expensive, stressful n unhappening for me while malaysia is too crime infested . Thailand have too many angmos for my liking n it recently tighten th rules to make it harder for foreigners to stay there long term .

So have to consider vietnam as it still looks to have a vibrant social scene for Singaporean men at the moment with medical care n living costs said to be considerably lower than sg .

who told u vn has low crime
American tourist stabbed to death on Saigon backpacker street

By VnExpress June 23, 2017 | 03:14 pm GMT+7

Police have launched a manhunt for a Vietnamese suspect.

An American tourist was stabbed to death during a fight with a Vietnamese man in Ho Chi Minh City's backpacker district on Thursday night.

Police have identified the suspect, allegedly with a history of drug addiction, and are searching for him, HCMC Police’s news website reported.

An initial investigation found that Stephen Marshall Pendeeton had got caught up in a fight with a Vietnamese man on Pham Ngu Lao Street, a popular nighttime venue among foreigners.

The 22-year-old tourist reportedly tried to escape down an alley but was chased after and stabbed to death. His attacker then fled the scene.

The cause of their conflict is not immediately known.

Pham Ngu Lao is part of the city’s popular backpacker district with bars, spas and clubs staying open until late at night. It draws up to 2,000 foreign visitors every day.

Ho Chi Minh City is one of the top tourist destinations in Vietnam, welcoming more than five million foreign arrivals last year. But safety issues such as muggings and violent street attacks remain a concern for visitors.

this happened in middle of tourist area, imagine what happens in local area thats quiet, read local news you will see puse snatch phone snatch gold jewlery snatch happens all time., and they use knife to chop the arm etc

[Zoick]

Brother, any other option to send money to Vietnam beside western union? Prefer sending to bank account in Vietnam.

[loster]

Hi bros,
Would like to seek some advice. My viet bu, went going back in early June time was questioned by ica and have 10 fingerprints recorded cos she don't understand their questions.

Now we are planning for rom in singapore. I called ica regarding ltvp matters and Ica advised me to fly in with her when arriving in sg in case she gets stopped by ica.

My question is what is this 10 fingerprints for and how to defend her when ica stop her again? I prepared our rom appointment in her passport just in case.

Hope someone can share any experience they have. My viet bu is tourist btw. She was recommended by my friend. Not a fl.

Thanks,
Loster

[Kim91]

Brother, any other option to send money to Vietnam beside western union? Prefer sending to bank account in Vietnam.

Moneygram? Or internet banking TT.

[jacksontay88]

Hi bros,
Would like to seek some advice. My viet bu, went going back in early June time was questioned by ica and have 10 fingerprints recorded cos she don't understand their questions.

Now we are planning for rom in singapore. I called ica regarding ltvp matters and Ica advised me to fly in with her when arriving in sg in case she gets stopped by ica.

My question is what is this 10 fingerprints for and how to defend her when ica stop her again? I prepared our rom appointment in her passport just in case.

Hope someone can share any experience they have. My viet bu is tourist btw. She was recommended by my friend. Not a fl.

Thanks,
Loster

Heard now if gals was stop by immigration when going back, and have their thumbprint taken, they cannot re enter singapore. I do not know hhow true this is. Need some firm answer from bros who have gf trying to come back then we will know.

[senters89]

Brother, any other option to send money to Vietnam beside western union? Prefer sending to bank account in Vietnam.

I alway used this company to send money to my china office, now they also offered VND. their rates like not bad. you can try.

http://zhongguoremittance.com/

[FireShark]

Hi bros,
Would like to seek some advice. My viet bu, went going back in early June time was questioned by ica and have 10 fingerprints recorded cos she don't understand their questions.

Now we are planning for rom in singapore. I called ica regarding ltvp matters and Ica advised me to fly in with her when arriving in sg in case she gets stopped by ica.

My question is what is this 10 fingerprints for and how to defend her when ica stop her again? I prepared our rom appointment in her passport just in case.

Hope someone can share any experience they have. My viet bu is tourist btw. She was recommended by my friend. Not a fl.

Thanks,
Loster

No need to worry. Just fly in with her when you are going for ROM. It should be fine. Please get ready your ROM letter too. It is very important. It is just a normal checking

Heard now if gals was stop by immigration when going back, and have their thumbprint taken, they cannot re enter singapore. I do not know hhow true this is. Need some firm answer from bros who have gf trying to come back then we will know.

No such things. Don't believe that taking thumbs print; they will not able to enter Singapore for next visits cos my bx had been asking to take thumb print each time when she rtn to vn. I ask why to the ICA; they just say normal checking; need not to be worry.

[loster]

No need to worry. Just fly in with her when you are going for ROM. It should be fine. Please get ready your ROM letter too. It is very important. It is just a normal checking



No such things. Don't believe that taking thumbs print; they will not able to enter Singapore for next visits cos my bx had been asking to take thumb print each time when she rtn to vn. I ask why to the ICA; they just say normal checking; need not to be worry.

What is bx? Do you fly in with her everytime?

[naemlo]

Hi bros,
Would like to seek some advice. My viet bu, went going back in early June time was questioned by ica and have 10 fingerprints recorded cos she don't understand their questions.



What is bx? Do you fly in with her everytime?

ICA won't because u dun understand English n ban u from entering SG. I am curious, how u communicate with your wife to be?? U dun even understand "ba xa"?? ROM appointment does not guarantee entry into SG. Your gf needs a lot of lucks to come into SG.


Heard now if gals was stop by immigration when going back, and have their thumbprint taken, they cannot re enter singapore. I do not know hhow true this is.


I ask why to the ICA; they just say normal checking; need not to be worry.

It is security measure for all foreigners entering and exiting SG to have fingerprints check. If u had an offence then chances of entering SG is slim.

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/fingerprint-scanning-system-at-singapores-checkpoints-identifies-immigration-offenders

[Hurricane88]

ICA won't because u dun understand English n ban u from entering SG. I am curious, how u communicate with your wife to be?? U dun even understand "ba xa"?? ROM appointment does not guarantee entry into SG. Your gf needs a lot of lucks to come into SG.



Bro - so free to reply...I had contributed enuf in the past...:)

[loster]

ICA won't because u dun understand English n ban u from entering SG. I am curious, how u communicate with your wife to be?? U dun even understand "ba xa"?? ROM appointment does not guarantee entry into SG. Your gf needs a lot of lucks to come into SG.






It is security measure for all foreigners entering and exiting SG to have fingerprints check. If u had an offence then chances of entering SG is slim.

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/fingerprint-scanning-system-at-singapores-checkpoints-identifies-immigration-offenders
Oh... we use an u em mostly. Before she flew off, we use google translate mosty. Now she is able to speak Mandarin le.

[naemlo]

Bro - so free to reply...I had contributed enuf in the past...:)

I dun work mah... :D

Oh... we use an u em mostly. Before she flew off, we use google translate mosty. Now she is able to speak Mandarin le.

I have to salute u for being brave to marry someone whom u can't communicate well. Some might argue differently. It is your life, all the best. Your marriage path will be tough internally among both families and externally, ICA.

[Hurricane88]

I dun work mah... :D



I tot you working and got paid in millions...:)



I have to salute u for being brave to marry someone whom u can't communicate well. Some might argue differently. It is your life, all the best. Your marriage path will be tough internally among both families and externally, ICA.

Me too salute and wait till she scold him...also cannot understand...happily spending his money and cursing in Tieng Viet...:)

My prerequisites - any Viet gal knew english and mandarin cannot be my gf...:)

[ngankokyeu]

thanks for the input, really need to get more thoughts from the seniors here as shifting base is something very troublesome that i hope to get right first time round . Someone say that Singaporeans cannot do visa run on a monthly basis to remain in vietnam , will appreciate if someone can enlighten me on this subject

I suggest you visit Vietnam yourself. Take a good look and see if you like it there. Never base on hearsay. Try to find out yourself.

If cannot understand or speak Vietnamese then start learning.
If you shift base because of money problem then you are not going to survive there. You will never get a job there. Or even you get a job your salary will be not enough to cover your lifestyle.

If you are below 40 and thinking of staying in Vietnam then you will not be there long too.
If you have a fully paid min 3-room HDB flat then you can stay in Vietnam as long as you can rent out your HDB flat.

There are many things to answer and not sure what you want to answer.

Above my 2000 dongs worth.

[ngankokyeu]

Oh... we use an u em mostly. Before she flew off, we use google translate mosty. Now she is able to speak Mandarin le.

Bro, what the seniors replied are true.

I will not dare to marry a Vietnamese wife if I don't understand tieng viet. Never rely on the girl speaking foreign language.

Ask yourself, why the Viet girls learn how to speak foreign language? So the girls who speak English will attract caucasian who speaks English. Those girls who speak Mandarin will attract Taiwanese, PRC men. Singaporeans and Malaysians will be part of the group.

If you read this thread you will understand there were many cases highlighting various problems.

Above are my 2000 dongs worth.

[ruddy122]

I know there is petty crime n lots of bag snatching in the tourist areas with most people who have stayed there for more than 9 months reporting that they have had their phones or laptops stolen n there is no way to avoid it but most people are saying its relatively low (perhaps cos they are used to it) n are commennting that traffic accidents is a more worrying issue .
Being a singaporean, if we choose not to stay in sg , then i'm afraid there are not many good options for us . Malaysia is visa friendly but crime is rife with many residential areas being repeatedly burgled , u also have car jacking n kidnapping which is really more scary . Australia is ok but is rascist, thailand has toughen up its immigration policies lately .
despite repeated attemptes by the seniors here to let fellow bros know of the perils in marrying viet girls, many sgporeans still persist in doing so , its not that they are not aware but most still choose this route due to the lack of good options .
If i were a white, then of course there is an added appeal in staying in sg as it'll be easy to land local women, the same factor comes into play for sg guys who frequent vietnam as we can still appeal to the local viet women at the moment, how long will this appeal persist would depend on how fast local affluence is rising.
obviously, if i am married n have kids in sg, then i'll probably have to be resigned to staying there at least till the kids have finished schooling but if given an option, then i will have to consider staying elsewhere as sg is a nice but expensive (n thus stressful) place to stay in at least for me

[ruddy122]

I suggest you visit Vietnam yourself. Take a good look and see if you like it there. Never base on hearsay. Try to find out yourself.

If cannot understand or speak Vietnamese then start learning.
If you shift base because of money problem then you are not going to survive there. You will never get a job there. Or even you get a job your salary will be not enough to cover your lifestyle.

If you are below 40 and thinking of staying in Vietnam then you will not be there long too.
If you have a fully paid min 3-room HDB flat then you can stay in Vietnam as long as you can rent out your HDB flat.

There are many things to answer and not sure what you want to answer.

Above my 2000 dongs worth.
bro, thanks for the input, what you say is truly right .i've visited vietnam many times in the past but only on business trips n i feel that my knwledge of the place cannot compare to the many bros here, i may have developed a bias too, that's the reason i seek wisdom from the bros here to better guide myself .
I am fortunate to have a paid up pad n sg n some fixed income so will not have a problem sustaining myself as long as i do not do anything stupid, but of course there is a negative feeling that its hard for a normal person to earn money in vn n the rate of inflation there looks to be unreasonably high .

[ngankokyeu]

bro, thanks for the input, what you say is truly right .i've visited vietnam many times in the past but only on business trips n i feel that my knwledge of the place cannot compare to the many bros here, i may have developed a bias too, that's the reason i seek wisdom from the bros here to better guide myself .
I am fortunate to have a paid up pad n sg n some fixed income so will not have a problem sustaining myself as long as i do not do anything stupid, but of course there is a negative feeling that its hard for a normal person to earn money in vn n the rate of inflation there looks to be unreasonably high .

Often many dun know what they wanted? So posting generally is no use. How many dare to take the plunge.

Go stay longer something like a few months. After each month can exit and go back again. The answer will be clearer. Best try to live like a local Viet by renting a room or apartment.

[ruddy122]

Often many dun know what they wanted? So posting generally is no use. How many dare to take the plunge.

Go stay longer something like a few months. After each month can exit and go back again. The answer will be clearer. Best try to live like a local Viet by renting a room or apartment.
bro

u r dead right, i've heard of some people who went there n tried just to U turn after two years n there are many whites who are dare for the long term. I know there are many bros here who have stayed in vn for many years , just hoping some good samaritan who is there will speak his / her mind n enlighten me.. am trying to prepare myself to make the plunge but feel i owe it to myself to at least listen to what the many smart people here have to say .

[naemlo]

u r dead right, i've heard of some people who went there n tried just to U turn after two years n there are many whites who are dare for the long term.

I am curious, so many cities in this region, why u chose Vietnam? :confused:

[ngankokyeu]

bro

u r dead right, i've heard of some people who went there n tried just to U turn after two years n there are many whites who are dare for the long term. I know there are many bros here who have stayed in vn for many years , just hoping some good samaritan who is there will speak his / her mind n enlighten me.. am trying to prepare myself to make the plunge but feel i owe it to myself to at least listen to what the many smart people here have to say .

Bro - all of us do things for a reason. Just enjoy yourself. Dun bother what others say.

[MiniHawk]

Can credit cards be use in Vietnam or still have to use cash.

[ahpiao]

I think becoz he kana gongtau from Vietnamese girl.
I am curious, so many cities in this region, why u chose Vietnam? :confused:

[FireShark]

Can credit cards be use in Vietnam or still have to use cash.

Yes; you can but some places they do charge you additionally for paying by Credit Cards

[ruddy122]

I am curious, so many cities in this region, why u chose Vietnam? :confused:
bro

been theree many times in the past n had good memories of the place, plus the women presently still have an affinity for sg men (albeit mostly for the $ but women universally are mostly $ beings, its just a matter of how much ..)
the other thing is that there are truly not many choices. Singapore is nice but ex , one needs to be very rich to live n retire comfortably n of cos its less happening , one don't stand a chance to pick up young girls on the streets unless one is young n super dashing but then if young n no $ also a problem.
Malaysia is a friendly environment for living as it has a Malaysia my 2nd home visa program for long term stay but the govt is doing an awful job to control crime n you have ad-hoc kidnappings n car-jacking n homes being burglared at will.
Thailand is nice but it recently clam down on foreigners staying there cos there r too many of them so now staying there can be cumbersome, although quite a number of well known singaporeans like hamish brown stay there.
Philippines is the easiest country to migrate to but the place is dirty, 10x more corrupt n kidnap friendly than malaysia .
Australia - ok if one likes cool winters but its rascist n i don't fancy white women
Indonesia - jakarta is very disorganised, lots of people asking for $, maybe bali n bintang is ok, bintang probably easier for visa runs but do not like darker skin women.
Laos - visa run troublesome, women 95% flat chested
so apart from China, that possibly leaves only Vietnam as a viable option
but hope i am wrong, then can discover more options..

[ruddy122]

I think becoz he kana gongtau from Vietnamese girl.
yes , u r right, had a really good time there in the past, many of the fair skin viet mms with good figures can be rated as among the best in Asia imho

[ruddy122]

Bro - all of us do things for a reason. Just enjoy yourself. Dun bother what others say.
bro, thanks , will have to somehow think it out n find my way . Have this feeling that the seniors here have spoken by being silent on the subject .

[ruddy122]

who told u vn has low crime


this happened in middle of tourist area, imagine what happens in local area thats quiet, read local news you will see puse snatch phone snatch gold jewlery snatch happens all time., and they use knife to chop the arm etc
bro thanks for reminding me of the dark side

[ngankokyeu]

bro, thanks , will have to somehow think it out n find my way . Have this feeling that the seniors here have spoken by being silent on the subject .

Is not the seniors are silent. They had written many in the past. Nothing much had changed for the past years. You just need to go thru read them especially TS posts.

I had read most of them from front to back.

[naemlo]

bro

been theree many times in the past n had good memories of the place, plus the women presently still have an affinity for sg men (albeit mostly for the $ but women universally are mostly $ beings, its just a matter of how much ..)
the other thing is that there are truly not many choices.

Life is not about woman.....Guess u have not actually live like a local in Vietnam. It is frustrating to deal with VN and its policies. 1 good example, your own saving account, u can't deposit even $1 into your account over the counter without a letter stating where this $1 from, this is crazy and mad.

[Hurricane88]

Life is not about woman.....Guess u have not actually live like a local in Vietnam. It is frustrating to deal with VN and its policies. 1 good example, your own saving account, u can't deposit even $1 into your account over the counter without a letter stating where this $1 from, this is crazy and mad.

Very true....applies to local Viet banks...can only trf into the bank account...also cannot have atm card and internet banking account....:)

offshore bank more flexible but limited branches or just 1 branch...recently foreign banks are leaving Vietnam...ANZ already left...:)

Read here
http://tuoitrenews.vn/business/41926/foreign-banks-on-trend-to-exit-vietnam

[ruddy122]

all these thing you mention about other countries also happen in vn, bottom line is in ANY counytry if you have no money are old and thus NEED money to attract women, dont know any street smarts (flash money) then you will have a BIG problem
thanks for the thoughts, u absolutely right, that's why there's a cantonese saying that the biggest fear will be to be "old n poor".
guess that's the reason most people work hard .. to avoid this end
in today's world , money is mostly needed to attract human beings that we live in cos $ is the lubricant that keeps things moving , no one will work for free right ..
Even stanley ho, the rich macau casino kings know that his 4 wives n children constantly visits him at the hospital n act filial cos they are all eying for a share of his assets when he dies .
so women equally have a right to be materialistic cos they r only human

of cos its good to be young n dashing but everyone age so if one continues to like young n pretty women (sorry this is my sin), then it'll be a matter of time before one needs to pay for the service .
Cost wise, paying for the service can usually be more efficient too as many guys would have spent more on dates n stuff before even being able to hold a women's hand
good looks is one thing n age is another, even if a guy is still relatively good looking, he might still have a problem picking up young girls when he's older as mms do not like the age barrier

the other problem is that good looks is a door opener but will only benefit to a point, once one settles down n moves in with the women, money will still talk cos its a lubricant needed in life
the other thing is what Warren Buffet like to refer to as "Value for $" or what the americans like to call getting the best "Bang" (ahem) for the buck
If one has worked hard to accumulate the cash he has, one will like to stretch n get the best value for his $ (or at least be seen to be doing so prevent others from labeling him "stupid" for allowing himself to be shortchanged n be paying more for everything), that is actually my purpose in bringing up the topic in the first place , sorry if i did not state it clearly.
SG is a nice place to live in but does it offer the best value for $ ( u bet the rich guys will be thinking about this , why spend 10k per month in sg when the same 10k can bring you 2-5 times the enjoyment elsewhere ?), then there is the problem of over regulation n the feeling that big brother is always watching your every move , mostly waiting to dish out fines to u .. ha

[ruddy122]

bro

U r right, thanks for replying
that's the reason i seek wisdom from the seniors cos i feel that there is more than meets the eye .
been previously told that i will have difficulty opening a bank acc in VN unless i have the residency issue settled, then someone say when bringing in cash, must report it at the airport to get a receipt for proof of funds or if don't report just bring the $ to change at the gold shop n keep it under the mattress like what many viets do .. which looks really dangerous esp if i need to bring in $ to buy a pad in vn
felt it was ridiculous too when i first heard it, on one hand they r trying to attract investment n consumption n on the other hand, they have this super stringent bank restrictions .
some whites r also saying that staying in vn can be a nightmare with lots of prying locals always edging to see what u r doing (hopefully this could be better if one stays in a keppel condo) , they dislike constantly having to maintain goodwill with the bribe hungry local police n says its tiring to always have to be on alert to avoid being mugged or swindled but on the other hand vn has got some nice countryside n scenery too n cheap medical care
need to ask if under the ASEAN system, Singapore passport holder can stay in vn perpetually by doing monthly visa runs or can only stay one month n have to leave for a while before returning .

[ruddy122]

Is not the seniors are silent. They had written many in the past. Nothing much had changed for the past years. You just need to go thru read them especially TS posts.

I had read most of them from front to back.
bro

thanks for the feedback, have only completed about 300 pages but found most are on how to bonk n manage VBs , hopefully i'm not reading from the wrong book ..ha
yes sir, will work harder to do more homework here

[loster]

Bro don't listen to this forum people too much. Especially when people claimed that if a VB can speak English or mandarin, she can't be his gf. Mean he trying to say that there's no educated speaking English ladies in Vietnam? :rolleyes:

One who can converse in English fluently doesn't mean she is a whore. Probably she received her education outside of her country, and hence she can speak English quite well. But oh well, he only can get girl via paying viet dongs. So he very particular if a girl who can converse in English fluently. :D:p

If you read back many of his past posts are nonsense. Therefore you see his no of postings.

Ultimately it's your life. And I wish you have a bliss marriages with your future Wife.

Anyway about the 10 fingerprints, they just wanna to have your Wife profile being recorded in their system. So next time once scan her passport upon entry, all record will be shown, I.e how many times she entered Sg.

If you already ROM, then just bring the letter of ROM, to smoothen her process with the ICA at the airport, in case they ask her, why she frequently come and visit Sg. She can just say that she visiting her future Husband to be and in laws and also preparing for the up coming wedding.

You should apply pre marriage Long term visit pass.

https://www.ica.gov.sg/page.aspx?pageid=541

Thanks for your encouragement. My wife successfully came into SG already. Already applying ltvp for her le.

[FireShark]

Thanks for your encouragement. My wife successfully came into SG already. Already applying ltvp for her le.

Good.... Hope that yr LTVP approve

[jklpoi]

Hi senior and all bros. Got a qns.

Do minors travelling out of vietnam together with their grandmother need an authorisation letter from their mother in order to leave vietnam?

2 minors, one is 2 years old, the other is 13. Their grandmother is 60 plus. Their mum is at Singapore.

They are travelling via jetstar.

Reason being the vietnam authorities say need the authorisation letter from the mother but her mum is at Singapore.

I find that it does not make sense. They are travelling with an adult, their grandmother some more. I don't understand it.

Can someone shed some light pls?

[Hurricane88]

Hi senior and all bros. Got a qns.

Do minors travelling out of vietnam together with their grandmother need an authorisation letter from their mother in order to leave vietnam?

2 minors, one is 2 years old, the other is 13. Their grandmother is 60 plus. Their mum is at Singapore.

They are travelling via jetstar.

Reason being the vietnam authorities say need the authorisation letter from the mother but her mum is at Singapore.

I find that it does not make sense. They are travelling with an adult, their grandmother some more. I don't understand it.

Can someone shed some light pls?

Yes, kids need authorisation letter from parents if not travelling with parents....:)

Today we have email and social apps to send letters....:)

Airlines will never know if anyone is child trafficking...:)

[jklpoi]

Yes, kids need authorisation letter from parents if not travelling with parents....:)

Today we have email and social apps to send letters....:)

Airlines will never know if anyone is child trafficking...:)

thks bro, the vietnam authorities say need chop at vietnam embassy at Singapore, den give them the original... So troublesome one ah.

Like this need go vietnam embassy chop and den FedEx the original over?

[Hurricane88]

thks bro, the vietnam authorities say need chop at vietnam embassy at Singapore, den give them the original... So troublesome one ah.

Like this need go vietnam embassy chop and den FedEx the original over?

The procedure is SOP for many countries and not only Vietnam...:)

If find it troublesome then just dun bring kids...ask their mother to fly back to Vietnam and then travel with the kids together...:)

BTW, your role is...who are you to the family...:)

[naemlo]

I find that it does not make sense. They are travelling with an adult, their grandmother some more. I don't understand it.



Why make no sense??? Grandfather, grand mother, grand this and that, how does the custom official knows? Ask u to poke your finger and drip blood? Ask u to produce family history??

If mum in SG and baby in VN... then jolly well get the mum to fly to VN, if she is too busy then why bother to get the baby to SG?

[jklpoi]

Haha, after so long, namelo still has not change his way of replying to post. Haha, nice to see that things does not change.

Anyway, my role to the family does not matter, no point explaining.

Super thanks to helping me clear this question. I have my doubts but it is clear now. Thanks for the help.

[naemlo]

Haha, after so long, namelo still has not change his way of replying to post.

Typical naemlo's replied... :D

[Hurricane88]

Why make no sense??? Grandfather, grand mother, grand this and that, how does the custom official knows? Ask u to poke your finger and drip blood? Ask u to produce family history??

If mum in SG and baby in VN... then jolly well get the mum to fly to VN, if she is too busy then why bother to get the baby to SG?

so straight forward...many cannot accept your nice gesture...:)

Haha, after so long, namelo still has not change his way of replying to post. Haha, nice to see that things does not change.

Anyway, my role to the family does not matter, no point explaining.

Super thanks to helping me clear this question. I have my doubts but it is clear now. Thanks for the help.

naemlo is old naemlo...still trying to sell his hand holding services...:)

glad you finally understood airlines dun help with child trafficking by checking very thorough...:)

without authorisation letter...you cannot get thru custom too...custom will check again...:)

[FireShark]

Yes, kids need authorisation letter from parents if not travelling with parents....:)

Today we have email and social apps to send letters....:)

Airlines will never know if anyone is child trafficking...:)

Wa; so fast u reply. Totally agree as recently; my friend Bx brought the nephew & niece to Singapore. They require a authorized letter from their immediate Parents

[seventynine]

need to ask if under the ASEAN system, Singapore passport holder can stay in vn perpetually by doing monthly visa runs or can only stay one month n have to leave for a while before returning .

https://www.ica.gov.sg/page.aspx?pageid=148
http://milelion.com/2016/02/02/claim-singapore-birthright-apec-travel-card/

If you can get an APEC Business Travel Card, the VN Immigration will stamp an additional "Permitted to remain until" liner and handwrite a date 3 months from your arrival.

Another fringe benefit is skipping some lengthy queues at the airport there :D

[naemlo]

If you can get an APEC Business Travel Card, the VN Immigration will stamp an additional "Permitted to remain until" liner and handwrite a date 3 months from your arrival.


No additional stamp, just 1 stamp as normal and instead of 30 days, they will write the 90 days date....

[Hurricane88]

If you can get an APEC Business Travel Card, the VN Immigration will stamp an additional "Permitted to remain until" liner and handwrite a date 3 months from your arrival.

Another fringe benefit is skipping some lengthy queues at the airport there :D

No additional stamp, just 1 stamp as normal and instead of 30 days, they will write the 90 days date....


oops...not SOP hor...if you dun ask for 90 days for APEC card holders...they will just write 30 days...sometimes the immigration officer may ask you if you stay how long...:)

[seventynine]

No additional stamp, just 1 stamp as normal and instead of 30 days, they will write the 90 days date....

Taken a look at my passport again. For most countries the 30 Days statement is within the stamped box border.
For VN it's a separate line below the box and abit crooked thus look stamped separately hahah...

oops...not SOP hor...if you dun ask for 90 days for APEC card holders...they will just write 30 days...sometimes the immigration officer may ask you if you stay how long...:)

Oh, didn't know that..
On both occasions the officer straightaway wrote 90 days for me :p

[euritage]

thks bro, the vietnam authorities say need chop at vietnam embassy at Singapore, den give them the original... So troublesome one ah.

Like this need go vietnam embassy chop and den FedEx the original over?

my son has travelled back to Vn with his Grandmother and Aunt a number of times before.

So far so good.

Been asked for letter before but they usually manage to talk their way through.

Maybe it helps that my son has a 6 month Visa for Vietnam.:D


Hello to the old birds here!:D
i remember hurricane and naemlo from quite some time back. (Just the virtual meeting of the minds.)

Never did get an opportunity to meet u guys whenever i pop by Vn, somehow always too busy doing papers, stock run, getting pink paper, going banks, etc...

Wife will be moving back to HCMC slowly in stages as we are interested in setting up something there in the near future. Hope to be able to pick ur minds and maybe also leverage on your age and experience in the local scene guys.

Many thanks!!!

[naemlo]

Hello to the old birds here!:D
i remember hurricane and naemlo from quite some time back. (Just the virtual meeting of the minds.)

It has been many donkey years ago... I also forget.

[Hurricane88]

It has been many donkey years ago... I also forget.

Think what he meant was we posted reply to him here...well I started posting back in 2008 in this thread...:)

[Hurricane88]

my son has travelled back to Vn with his Grandmother and Aunt a number of times before.

So far so good.

Been asked for letter before but they usually manage to talk their way through.

Maybe it helps that my son has a 6 month Visa for Vietnam.



Not sure how old is your son...:confused:...but I dun think he is very young like 3 years old...:)

My guess is that your son may had travelled with parents to Vietnam and then when he went with grandma and aunty, parents were at the airline check-in counter to help him check-in...so the airline had certain past history and so no problem...:)



Wife will be moving back to HCMC slowly in stages as we are interested in setting up something there in the near future. Hope to be able to pick ur minds and maybe also leverage on your age and experience in the local scene guys.


I had not seen anyone made money in Vietnam doing small business...new restaurant and cafe all cannot make money...only buying property can make money now...:)

recently many expats are leaving and hcm rental markets very soft...expect big drop soon...already there are discounts given...unheard of rental discounts last few years...^^

[naemlo]

Think what he meant was we posted reply to him here...well I started posting back in 2008 in this thread...:)

Misread :D Getting too old to remember whom I met.



I had not seen anyone made money in Vietnam doing small business...


I am here doing small business. BTW, entertainment here is getting boring.

[euritage]

Not sure how old is your son... ...but I dun think he is very young like 3 years old...

My guess is that your son may had travelled with parents to Vietnam and then when he went with grandma and aunty, parents were at the airline check-in counter to help him check-in...so the airline had certain past history and so no problem...



I had not seen anyone made money in Vietnam doing small business...new restaurant and cafe all cannot make money...only buying property can make money now...

recently many expats are leaving and hcm rental markets very soft...expect big drop soon...already there are discounts given...unheard of rental discounts last few years...^^

Never did meet you guys before, just the promise of it. ;)

Nope, first time my son travelled to Vn, was with his Grandmother, nearly got sent back apparently, just lucky my Mother-In-Law tears worked.
(Or maybe it was my son's smelly diapers...:D)

Son is currently 1y6m old so he's been travelling quite abit since he's about 8mths old.

Ure very astute, we're doing food for a start.
It's not in Vietnam at the moment so we'll probably be the first there.
(ETA: 4-5mths)

Please advise about rental market in VN atm.
Didn't expect the rental nor property prices to drop, seeing how the govt has relaxed the rules regarding ownership a little.

Currently co-own a condo with my wife, tenancy ending Nov 17 and hoping to find new tenants again.

My wife intends to rent an apartment in HCMC to live in so that there's balance after deducting the rental we get from the condo.
(If market softens..... :()

I am looking to rent a shopfront for setting up and selling food.
Not D1 nor D7, those rentals will drop?
Coz i hear that rental keeps going up for the shops... :(

[euritage]

Misread :D Getting too old to remember whom I met.



I am here doing small business. BTW, entertainment here is getting boring.

Small is relative...

may i know what you're doing there?

Need all the lobangs and on the grounds knowledge i can get. :p

[naemlo]

may i know what you're doing there?


I am in IT... :D

[euritage]

I am in IT... :D

IT very generalized.... Kindly expound further...
Though I seem to detect some form of hidden meaning... :p

[naemlo]

IT very generalized.... Kindly expound further...
Though I seem to detect some form of hidden meaning... :p

No hidden meaning.... legal biz. Software.

[FireShark]

I had not seen anyone made money in Vietnam doing small business...new restaurant and cafe all cannot make money...only buying property can make money now...:)

recently many expats are leaving and hcm rental markets very soft...expect big drop soon...already there are discounts given...unheard of rental discounts last few years...^^

Many expats are leaving Vietnam due to TPP. Eversince Donald Duck becum President; he stop TPP Approval which result many US Companies stop investing in VN

[Hurricane88]

Many expats are leaving Vietnam due to TPP. Eversince Donald Duck becum President; he stop TPP Approval which result many US Companies stop investing in VN

not many English teaching jobs left...was surprised that majority of caucasian in Vn are teachers...:)

Thailand already clamped down on English teaching jobs...Vietnam took most of them last few years...now Vietnam turn to tighten all these screws...:)

Property rental will be hit and showing signs of softtening...:)

[FireShark]

not many English teaching jobs left...was surprised that majority of caucasian in Vn are teachers...:)

Thailand already clamped down on English teaching jobs...Vietnam took most of them last few years...now Vietnam turn to tighten all these screws...:)

Property rental will be hit and showing signs of softtening...:)

I heard fm a frd fm Binh Duong fm Taiwan stating that a lot of US Expats moving away since TPP not sign.

[Hurricane88]

I heard fm a frd fm Binh Duong fm Taiwan stating that a lot of US Expats moving away since TPP not sign.

All these numbers are not big...if TPP not signed only affect US citizens...what I referred to are the North America, European, Australia and New Zealand expat community...:)

[naemlo]

Thailand already clamped down on English teaching jobs...Vietnam took most of them last few years...now Vietnam turn to tighten all these screws...:)


Next destinations for all these so called expats will be Myanmar and Cambodia. :D Live, enjoy, talk, act like an expat but earning slightly higher pay than locals.

[Hurricane88]

Next destinations for all these so called expats will be Myanmar and Cambodia. :D Live, enjoy, talk, act like an expat but earning slightly higher pay than locals.

Yes, paid around USD 1,500 per month...kkkk...but act like billionaires...:)

[euritage]

Yes, paid around USD 1,500 per month...kkkk...but act like billionaires...:)

Question: if I were to wanna get tuition for my child in Vn from an Ang moh, how much would it cost?

I will send him back here to start his primary sch. But would like him to be able to match his peers in terms of language.

Re: property - should I sell?
Currently own a unit in sunrise.
I'm not going to blindly follow ur advice but would like to know your thoughts and reasoning.

[ruddy122]

https://www.ica.gov.sg/page.aspx?pageid=148
http://milelion.com/2016/02/02/claim-singapore-birthright-apec-travel-card/

If you can get an APEC Business Travel Card, the VN Immigration will stamp an additional "Permitted to remain until" liner and handwrite a date 3 months from your arrival.

Another fringe benefit is skipping some lengthy queues at the airport there :D
thanks, i have the AP card, i presently can only stay for 60 days with it but can just get out n return to continue staying for a unlimited period but i wonder if this is possible for vietnam ie will they not allpow entry if you go in n out continuously using the AP card or the one month ASEAN visa

[ruddy122]

Next destinations for all these so called expats will be Myanmar and Cambodia. :D Live, enjoy, talk, act like an expat but earning slightly higher pay than locals.
actually, we can generally classify westerners that come to asia into two groups , one group are the freelancers who have been doing menial jobs for most part of their lives n is focused on living life the way they like without any career aspirations. Majoriy of this class like to travel n see the world so they teach eng to enable them to do so .
the other group are those who have regular jobs n are more like asians , some of this group still come over to teach english just to occupy their time n socialise n earn $ to pay off basic expenses but most of them who have had a decent job in the past will have sufficient funds to live reasonably well without working cos they receive monthly social welfare payment from the govt . For US n Canadian citizens, most of those who have retired can typically receive 3-4k usd per month even for normal ranking employees , Northern Europe have even better social welfare benefits with Germany being the most generous, german citizens pay about 45% in taxes per month when they are working but once they are retired, they are paid a monthly stipend amounting to 80% of their last drawn pay till they die where these payments are then transferred to the spouse n continue till he /she dies hence in europe, germans are the biggest vacationers cos for those that are working, they can freely spend their earnings without worrying of getting broke when they grow old while for those who r retired, they can continue to spend cos they get paid monthly .
US citizens who live abroad have to report to the embassy once every 3 months cos the US govt wants to check n ensure that they r alive before contionuing on the payments .
that's why for the westerners, they hv another way of playing the VBs by telling them that " u better treat me well n ensure that i live well cos when i go, the monthly payment i get will go too" . that's why lots of westerners with monthly pension pocket $ can afford to go retire in thailand n vietnam with young local gfs
i do not know of the russian system but there r lots of russians in their 50-60s who frequently go to nha trang n book 18-20 yr old VBs for one week to 3 month special gf assignments , its so prevalent that lots of signage n even restaurant menus r in russian
SG folks unfortunately r on our own ..

[naemlo]

SG folks unfortunately r on our own ..

I read only a few sentences u posted and skip most of your posting when u were talking about social benefit....I dun bother on how n what social benefit others get. :D BTW, we were talking about younger, non retired foreigners...

Your 2 groups might be your classification and not all true. There are foreigners who earn peanut at home or can't find a decent job other than picking cow shit in farm, cleaning shit on the street..... They choose to work and live in 3rd world country for a reason, earning so called "expat" salary and live like king. I had a staff from London, earning USD 1800 in Phnom Penh.... He spent about 500-800 USD per month and lived better life than most locals.

How "talented" can a white be, with only option teaching English in Asia? How many are truly qualified in Asia to teach? Most so called school dun bother to check these whites qualification. They assume, a white will teach better English than Asian. :D The irony is Spanish, French... are whites. :D

[Hurricane88]

I read only a few sentences u posted and skip most of your posting when u were talking about social benefit....I dun bother on how n what social benefit others get. : BTW, we were talking about younger, non retired foreigners...

Your 2 groups might be your classification and not all true. There are foreigners who earn peanut at home or can't find a decent job other than picking cow shit in farm, cleaning shit on the street..... They choose to work and live in 3rd world country for a reason, earning so called "expat" salary and live like king. I had a staff from London, earning USD 1800 in Phnom Penh.... He spent about 500-800 USD per month and lived better life than most locals.

How "talented" can a white be, with only option teaching English in Asia? How many are truly qualified in Asia to teach? Most so called school dun bother to check these whites qualification. They assume, a white will teach better English than Asian. : The irony is Spanish, French... are whites. :

I agreed with you and think this bro had insufficient knowledge of expat community and staying in Vietnam...:)

He may not have joined the HCM expat group and know the community,,,I knew many of us are member of the groups...I am not joined in the hanoi group...:)

His comment on Nha Trang is a flawed...the Russian who traveled to Vietnam are mainly paid to bring goods and back...the Russian community is still relatively small and kept to themselves...they hang around the beach and tourists places...hardly ventured into local heartland of Nha Trang...they also avoid expensive hotels and restaurants too...:)

I had been to Nha Trang and intend to stay a long period there soon...I hardly see Russian hooking with cutie nice local gals...mostly they can get the uglier and more matured gals...btw most russians came with spouse/partners...:)

When I was in Nha Trang, we eat and drink at local cafes and restaurants, hardly can see caucasians....I will provide more info when I stay there longer...^^

[Hurricane88]

How "talented" can a white be, with only option teaching English in Asia? How many are truly qualified in Asia to teach? Most so called school dun bother to check these whites qualification. They assume, a white will teach better English than Asian. :D The irony is Spanish, French... are whites. :D

Only bro who knew the expat community can make such comments...when I joined the expat group 4 years ago...I was surprised to learn that 90% are teaching English...in a shared house...all tenants can be teachers...most of these expat will advertise asking to be English teachers...so when Thailand tighten the screw on teachers....Vietnam inherited 60%...so some of the epxats become part time sales for some landlords...trying to intro rental rooms to expats...:)

Many of these expats had lived in Asia for years...many commented they have no jobs when they go back to their country and insists to live in Asia...Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia top choice...:)

[Bote]

Wendella a real life example in this forum. Working as a teacher in hcm, he hardly earn enough to date young girls, end up have to go blowjob cafe look for girls to french kiss him. :D

There are foreigners who earn peanut at home or can't find a decent job other than picking cow shit in farm, cleaning shit on the street..... They choose to work and live in 3rd world country for a reason, earning so called "expat" salary and live like king. I had a staff from London, earning USD 1800 in Phnom Penh.... He spent about 500-800 USD per month and lived better life than most locals.

[Bote]

Since u not want blindly follow any advice, might well do ur own homework and use ur own judgement to make decision. Don't bother ask so much.


Re: property - should I sell?
Currently own a unit in sunrise.
I'm not going to blindly follow ur advice but would like to know your thoughts and reasoning.

[naemlo]

How "talented" can a white be, with only option teaching English in Asia?



Many of these expats had lived in Asia for years...many commented they have no jobs when they go back to their country and insists to live in Asia...Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia top choice...:)

Picture tells a thousand words.... begging on the street but in a so called innovative way.

http://static.tuoitrenews.vn/ttnew/r//2017/08/09/meditate-beggar-beg-packer-foreigner-phu-quoc-1502248881.jpg

http://tuoitrenews.vn/news/society/20170809/no-exception-for-foreign-begpackers-on-vietnam-streets-tourism-director/40927.html

[Hurricane88]

Picture tells a thousand words.... begging on the street but in a so called innovative way.

http://static.tuoitrenews.vn/ttnew/r//2017/08/09/meditate-beggar-beg-packer-foreigner-phu-quoc-1502248881.jpg

http://tuoitrenews.vn/news/society/20170809/no-exception-for-foreign-begpackers-on-vietnam-streets-tourism-director/40927.html

Thanks...many episodes of this now...:)

In expat section...the ang moh tried to scam saying fell down admitted hospital, wallet stolen, got robbed...then started asking for money to buy ticket to go home...in actual fact the ang mohs spent all their money on gals or tours...:)

The same news were all over the expat sections...the gal got slammed by most of their own expats...:)

[Th4r]

Whoa, so many years liao still same guys.

[Bote]

Is this girl related to Wendella? is it her daughter?

Picture tells a thousand words.... begging on the street but in a so called innovative way.

http://static.tuoitrenews.vn/ttnew/r//2017/08/09/meditate-beggar-beg-packer-foreigner-phu-quoc-1502248881.jpg

http://tuoitrenews.vn/news/society/20170809/no-exception-for-foreign-begpackers-on-vietnam-streets-tourism-director/40927.html

Thanks...many episodes of this now...:)

In expat section...the ang moh tried to scam saying fell down admitted hospital, wallet stolen, got robbed...then started asking for money to buy ticket to go home...in actual fact the ang mohs spent all their money on gals or tours...:)

The same news were all over the expat sections...the gal got slammed by most of their own expats...:)

[FireShark]

Is this girl related to Wendella? is it her daughter?

Why do need to step on others people tail? Did he offend you?

[Hurricane88]

https://www.sbfsg.net/showpost.php?p=16387449&postcount=35424

What naemlo describe chao ang moh...:)

[Shadyslim]

guess when i ask a question i get bombarded with questions instead of answer, thanks guys

[naemlo]

i have a vn friend whom i knew thru a pub last time working on work permit, but i think she got written bad reviews by her employer as she did not complete her term of 6 months work and resigned in 3-4 months...


Why are u spending so much effort on an entertainment "friend"?? A friend or ???

[Hurricane88]

Why are u spending so much effort on an entertainment "friend"?? A friend or ???

maybe a "friend of interest"

[Hurricane88]

hi all esteemed bros here, wish to enquire if you guys have experience with appealing for rejected entry visa ? i have a vn friend whom i knew thru a pub last time working on work permit, but i think she got written bad reviews by her employer as she did not complete her term of 6 months work and resigned in 3-4 months...

hence the rejected visa, i plan to help her with the appeal for her visit here to SG, any bro able to guide and help :confused

sincere thanks in advance :)

you dun know how and you wanted to help...interesting proposal...are you been wearing a hat too big for your head...:)

ICA ask -

how you related to her...:confused:
hopefully you aren't married otherwise she had no chance to come forever...she is deemed a family breaker...:D

[FireShark]

guess when i ask a question i get bombarded with questions instead of answer, thanks guys

Hahaha; not really. Let me help u to answer. Normally; they should not have problem even after working in Singapore. The only bad review by her previous employer maybe stating that she is going out with customer to the hotel or when there is raid; she was caught in the hotel. Normally; a work permit holder still can go to the hotel with her bf/lover. If she is being paid for the sex; she will have problem coming in. No point going to any lawyers. Just go Immigration; fill up a form; stating that you are her bf; she will be able to come in. If not; just go to VN; bring her to Singapore by yrself. When entering immigration; stand behind her. When there is any issue; follow her to the immigration counter. If you go out of the immigration; the chances that she will not be able to come in. Immigration officers will listen to your story but it is still up to the immigration officers whether she is allowed to enter Singapore. I show my Notice of Assessment to Immigration officers each time when I bring my gf to Singapore. It prove my income capabilities for her stay in Singapore.

[Hurricane88]

Calling naemlo

these 2 chao ang moh stay mini-hotel dun pay and moved out quietly after 2 weeks...:)

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By Coconuts Bangkok Sep. 13, 2017

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https://coconuts.co/bangkok/news/blacklisted-big-legged-beggar-booted-bangkok-layover/

[naemlo]

Calling naemlo

these 2 chao ang moh stay mini-hotel dun pay and moved out quietly after 2 weeks...:)


Not chao ang moh but expats... :D

[flashbouncer]

Need some advice from all the Vietnam experts here. Some background: I'm decent looking, average build in my early thirties. I'm currently in hcm for 2 weeks for work. Been frequenting a bar for the past 5 nights, every night I will sit with the same girl. This girl claims she started working here 2 months ago, and from my observation she does seem less seasoned compared to the rest of the girls.

From observation, while the other girls immediately start flirting and asking you to buy them drinks before slowly escalating to asking you to bring them back to hotel, mine just sits there and seems quite shy. I was attracted to her looks so I decided to make an effort to break the ice. Her English is not so good so conversations are hard but eventually I get her to warm up to me through some silly games and stuff.

The first night, other than the very first Ladies drink I bought her, she didn't ask for anything else. My colleagues were all on their 4th or 5th ladies drink for their ladies so i felt bad and gave her a 300k tip. She looked surprised but accepted. The next few nights when I went back for her, she didn't ask for any ladies drink. The second night she didn't want to accept my tip but I persisted and she accepted. The subsequent nights she was firm in not accepting any money from me. So basically she spent around 4 or 5 hours with me and did not earn a cent. on the other hand, I was receiving some mixed signals from her. I asked her out for movies on Sunday and she accepted but in the end she said she overslept cuz work ended very late on Saturday due to some event. And while she seems happy to see me and does all the little gf-like things like holding my hand while walking around the bar and talking to the other ladies, leaning her head against my shoulder, she also clams up when I ask her more personal questions. Sometimes she gives me her full attention and other times she also seems to be lost in her own thoughts.

usually I'm a fuck and forget type of person so this is the first time I've tried to get something like that going. I'm not too experienced at reading bar girls so I am completely clueless at this point. I'm just wondering if anyone who has had some experience in this area knows if it is worth my time and effort to continue to work on this girl. There are so many pretty girls in dai nam and Vien dong spa or in the other bars so it is much easier to just pay for a quick and commercial release but I'm also getting a little bored with that which is why I'm spending time and effort on this girl. But with the mixed signals I'm not sure if I should continue to do so.

Sorry for the Long post and thank you in advance for any honest feedback and opinions!

[Hurricane88]

Need some advice from all the Vietnam experts here. Some background: I'm decent looking, average build in my early thirties. I'm currently in hcm for 2 weeks for work. Been frequenting a bar for the past 5 nights, every night I will sit with the same girl. This girl claims she started working here 2 months ago, and from my observation she does seem less seasoned compared to the rest of the girls.


The first night, other than the very first Ladies drink I bought her, she didn't ask for anything else. My colleagues were all on their 4th or 5th ladies drink for their ladies so i felt bad and gave her a 300k tip. She looked surprised but accepted. The next few nights when I went back for her, she didn't ask for any ladies drink. The second night she didn't want to accept my tip but I persisted and she accepted. The subsequent nights she was firm in not accepting any money from me. So basically she spent around 4 or 5 hours with me and did not earn a cent. on the other hand, I was receiving some mixed signals from her. I asked her out for movies on Sunday and she accepted but in the end she said she overslept cuz work ended very late on Saturday due to some event. And while she seems happy to see me and does all the little gf-like things like holding my hand while walking around the bar and talking to the other ladies, leaning her head against my shoulder, she also clams up when I ask her more personal questions. Sometimes she gives me her full attention and other times she also seems to be lost in her own thoughts.

usually I'm a fuck and forget type of person so this is the first time I've tried to get something like that going. I'm not too experienced at reading bar girls so I am completely clueless at this point. I'm just wondering if anyone who has had some experience in this area knows if it is worth my time and effort to continue to work on this girl. There are so many pretty girls in dai nam and Vien dong spa or in the other bars so it is much easier to just pay for a quick and commercial release but I'm also getting a little bored with that which is why I'm spending time and effort on this girl. But with the mixed signals I'm not sure if I should continue to do so.

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Stick to pay, fuck and forget...:)

This gal is not interested in you or anyone else...she should have at least one bf satisfying feeding her...reason why she not able to go for outing or movies...:)

since you volunteer to pay her tips then she just collect and act as though no hard-up...never believe she jsut working there for 2 months...just need to ask the other gals...since you are there for fun...never ignore the others who working hard to earn a tip...she is no different from any other working gal...:)

[flashbouncer]

Stick to pay, fuck and forget...:)

This gal is not interested in you or anyone else...she should have at least one bf satisfying feeding her...reason why she not able to go for outing or movies...:)

since you volunteer to pay her tips then she just collect and act as though no hard-up...never believe she jsut working there for 2 months...just need to ask the other gals...since you are there for fun...never ignore the others who working hard to earn a tip...she is no different from any other working gal...:)

I know it's very likely she's not interested or interested enough cuz she would have made an effort to meet up if she was. I'm just confused by the fact that for the past 3 nights she was with me for 4 hours each time (I'll be at the bar from 8+ and stay till 12+) and yet she didn't earn a single cent from me. I also asked my colleague to ask his girl and she confirmed that mine is quite new. In fact when I'm at the bar with my girl, the rest of the girls keep looking and talking about us cuz we act very lovey dovey and some of them will randomly come up to me and say my girl has no bf, asking me to go for her.

If this is part of some elaborate scheme to play the long game with me or just trying to play hard to get, I have to say it's not really working since it's causing me to lose interest in her. Haha

[thewildone]

Might be a bit off topic - let me know if I am. In some ways understanding your Vietnamese life partner means helping her bring back a piece of home.

My wife wants to buy an Arirang KTV machine and bring it back to SG. I've a couple of questions:

1) Any problems bringing back the electrical device to SG? I mean there's no Safety-mark sticker; will it get confiscated at customs?
2) Can I just plug it into my regular AV receiver/amp?

[Hurricane88]

Might be a bit off topic - let me know if I am. In some ways understanding your Vietnamese life partner means helping her bring back a piece of home.

My wife wants to buy an Arirang KTV machine and bring it back to SG. I've a couple of questions:

1) Any problems bringing back the electrical device to SG? I mean there's no Safety-mark sticker; will it get confiscated at customs?
2) Can I just plug it into my regular AV receiver/amp?

I used to see sinkees carrying large electrical items in the past (since 2009 to 2012)...but recently not anymore...reason, electrical and electronics items are cheap comparable to sinkieland...:)

Just go down to Nguyen Kim store at THD, D1...you will get what you want...Arirang had been in Vietnam for long time...I download the apps and used it to search for songs...:)

Oops...knew I wasn't answering your question directly....Q1, if you bring new item they will tax you...Q2, should be able to plug in and play

[ngankokyeu]

I know it's very likely she's not interested or interested enough cuz she would have made an effort to meet up if she was. I'm just confused by the fact that for the past 3 nights she was with me for 4 hours each time (I'll be at the bar from 8+ and stay till 12+) and yet she didn't earn a single cent from me. I also asked my colleague to ask his girl and she confirmed that mine is quite new. In fact when I'm at the bar with my girl, the rest of the girls keep looking and talking about us cuz we act very lovey dovey and some of them will randomly come up to me and say my girl has no bf, asking me to go for her.

If this is part of some elaborate scheme to play the long game with me or just trying to play hard to get, I have to say it's not really working since it's causing me to lose interest in her. Haha

After reading, I think she not playing any game but you are. Not sure if you gotten a kiss from her? I have seen my friends got kisses from gals first time they met. :D:)

[FireShark]

Might be a bit off topic - let me know if I am. In some ways understanding your Vietnamese life partner means helping her bring back a piece of home.

My wife wants to buy an Arirang KTV machine and bring it back to SG. I've a couple of questions:

1) Any problems bringing back the electrical device to SG? I mean there's no Safety-mark sticker; will it get confiscated at customs?
2) Can I just plug it into my regular AV receiver/amp?

1) The Use item should not be value more than SGD 600
2) you should not encounter any issue

[naemlo]

Sorry for the Long post and thank you in advance for any honest feedback and opinions!

Just pay her accordingly... if she dun want tips, then buy her drinks. Dun think too much n enjoy while u are there.



My wife wants to buy an Arirang KTV machine and bring it back to SG. I've a couple of questions:


Just buy in Vietnam, save all the hassles... It is not ex in Vietnam and comes with local warranty.

[optiplex80]

Hi all, my wife from HCMC will be moving here to stay with me. May I ask bros here how do u help her adapt to the food here ?

She seem to like sour and spicy food a lot but lucky she likes my parent's cooking and we are staying near them.

Where do you all go for local Vietnam food usually ? Orchard Tower ?

[naemlo]

Where do you all go for local Vietnam food usually ? Orchard Tower ?

Since when Orchard tower for VN food?? U ok??

U have to tell your wife, when u are in rome, do as the Romans do.... once in awhile u can go for VN food in SG else good luck to your marriage if she still cannot take SG food.

FYI SG food is 1 of the best in the region....

[FireShark]

Since when Orchard tower for VN food?? U ok??

U have to tell your wife, when u are in rome, do as the Romans do.... once in awhile u can go for VN food in SG else good luck to your marriage if she still cannot take SG food.

FYI SG food is 1 of the best in the region....

Bro

I think Orchard tower is selling VN food. :p How long have you been away from Orchard Tower.

[FireShark]

Hi all, my wife from HCMC will be moving here to stay with me. May I ask bros here how do u help her adapt to the food here ?

She seem to like sour and spicy food a lot but lucky she likes my parent's cooking and we are staying near them.

Where do you all go for local Vietnam food usually ? Orchard Tower ?

Hi

since she like your parents cooking; why bother find Vietnamese food for her. For your reference; there are many places selling Vietnamese Food. Even in many neighbourhood areas; there are vietnamese food

[Hurricane88]

Hi

since she like your parents cooking; why bother find Vietnamese food for her. For your reference; there are many places selling Vietnamese Food. Even in many neighbourhood areas; there are vietnamese food

Thought you will recommend him to do tapao...some selling Vn food online...they do tapao...:)

[naemlo]

Bro

I think Orchard tower is selling VN food. :p How long have you been away from Orchard Tower.

Now then I know... Orchard tower has VN food. :D Thanks for the update but why go till Orchard tower? :D

[FireShark]

Thought you will recommend him to do tapao...some selling Vn food online...they do tapao...:)

Hahaha; ya; forget to tell him in Facebook; there are a lot of Vietnamese people selling Vietnamese Food Online.

[thewildone]

Thank you for your advice. We visited Nguyen Kim but found the best price with ready stocks at one of the many stores with giant Arirang signage along the main roads. Prices are pretty much controlled by the main disti so it was a matter of whether the store had ready stock or not.

Managed to hand-carry back a mid range unit for $300. No issues with SG customs or setting up.

Just go down to Nguyen Kim store at THD, D1...you will get what you want...Arirang had been in Vietnam for long time...I download the apps and used it to search for songs...:)

Oops...knew I wasn't answering your question directly....Q1, if you bring new item they will tax you...Q2, should be able to plug in and play

1) The Use item should not be value more than SGD 600
2) you should not encounter any issue


Just buy in Vietnam, save all the hassles... It is not ex in Vietnam and comes with local warranty.

[Hurricane88]

chao ang moh begging for money at D1 hcm...:)

"I got robbed, lost passport, need money" is getting very old in Vietnam.
A disgrace to the expat community. 😠😠
(Food is dirt cheap in VN. As a foriegner, you can get 3 meals a day free at any district in Saigon until your money comes or your paper clears. Asking for money is dumb and stupid.)

https://www.facebook.com/nghiapham1188/videos/1902827309734564/

[FireShark]

chao ang moh begging for money at D1 hcm...:)

"I got robbed, lost passport, need money" is getting very old in Vietnam.
A disgrace to the expat community. 😠😠
(Food is dirt cheap in VN. As a foriegner, you can get 3 meals a day free at any district in Saigon until your money comes or your paper clears. Asking for money is dumb and stupid.)

https://www.facebook.com/nghiapham1188/videos/1902827309734564/

Nowadays; it becoming very common in vn. In the states; there are a lot of beggars too.

[damong777]

Hi

since she like your parents cooking; why bother find Vietnamese food for her. For your reference; there are many places selling Vietnamese Food. Even in many neighbourhood areas; there are vietnamese food

Actually nowdays if the vb have fb there are a lot of viet groups in singapore...like market place where they sell food which they brought into singapore at 5-10 times prices marked up.
But no choice if ur spouse needs taste of Vietnam. Just be careful of friends ur spouse make...really hear all sort of stories.

[FireShark]

Actually nowdays if the vb have fb there are a lot of viet groups in singapore...like market place where they sell food which they brought into singapore at 5-10 times prices marked up.
But no choice if ur spouse needs taste of Vietnam. Just be careful of friends ur spouse make...really hear all sort of stories.

Bro; Not really very expensive compare to the restaurants. I find it cheaper & more delicious sometimes.

[SingViet]

Didn't realised that the thread I started almost 11 years ago is still surviving till today :eek:

[SingViet]

Bro; Not really very expensive compare to the restaurants. I find it cheaper & more delicious sometimes.

Agree. Some of them cook better than the restaurants and price is competitive. They send to your place. Not too bad. :D

[SingViet]

Now then I know... Orchard tower has VN food. :D Thanks for the update but why go till Orchard tower? :D

Vn food all over Singapore nowadays. open and close every other month

[Hurricane88]

Didn't realised that the thread I started almost 11 years ago is still surviving till today :eek:

why not...we still luv Vietnam...although lesser person asking noobie question...:)

btw...so how are you bro...:)

[SingViet]

why not...we still luv Vietnam...although lesser person asking noobie question...:)

btw...so how are you bro...:)

still the same la bro.

[duckking]

Some people have been careful with their life all this while; only to take so much risk thinking of getting into something they don't understand and don't know how to handle.

VBs is a different breed of woman. When I first encounter one; they are lovely creature...... and after a while you will see their dark side.

This thread is full of examples; and yet still people post new story about how they fall in love with a FL.

The correct way to handle a VB; 99% of Singapore men will not be able to do.

Because we are brought up "to care".

The right way is "don't care".
Don't bother what they do.
Don't bother to control them.
Don't bother with their friends.
Don't listen to their stories.
Don't trust what they tell you.
Don't be angry with them.
Don't need to feel sad for them.
Don't need to plan future.
Don't talk about money.
Last and the least; don't listen to their father dying, mother sick; sisters schooling; house collapsing; dog give birth; uncle getting married........ because all this got nothing to do with "your happiness".

Before I forget....... what they do to you; you return "double". (classic H88 theory)

If you don't understand; you are just one of the 99.99% that don't. Don't need to feel bad.

But most will not listen and take the risk thinking "they got nothing to lose..."

Stupid boy; VBs are the one "that got nothing to lose...... you have everything that they don't have." And when they get hold of what you have; they will never stop..... they will look forward meeting other potential......"better man".

I learn a lot since June 2013. Thanks to H88 whom bring me there to see beautiful Vietnam and bring me to places to see pretty ladies. Past 2 years I have seen people with years of experience in VN; fall hard....... really hard.

Simply because they can do a lot of thing behind your back; and you can never detect it.

How old are you bro Mica ? I owe you a beer.

[curious76]

Some VB wife giving explanation on their countrywomen's doings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Scr6kMyGavI&t=158s

[Satki5]

Bros I need help and advice from all the SEASONED samsters.
Hi bros. I got a problem with a Vb. Ok, the story goes like this. I know her from a ktv and the 2 months she was here, she said that i was the second man that she had sex with. Subsequently after she goes back to vietnam, I went to look for her 2 times and had the regular bonking and meals etc. After the 2nd trip, she totally cut all ties such as delete the WeChat and block me totally. She is a 20 yr girl while I am in my mid thirties. After asking from my friend to find out the reason for the sudden change in attitude, I realise she said that I did not help her in terms of giving her money as she said that she do not work in Vietnam and needs money to survive. As a typical Singaporean, time is the most important thing we can give to our gf so I think by visiting her monthly is the best gift I can give to her. There are plans to marry her but now. Haizzzzz...... Where did the r/s go wrong? Despite numerous attempts to give her money this and that now, she is sibei heartless and refuse to have any contact with me now. What should I do? How can I get her back? My heart aches so much whenever I think of her.

[naemlo]

My heart aches so much whenever I think of her.

Every month, deposit part of your salary to me, I will make sure u are happy every trip in HCMC... If not move on with your life.

[Satki5]

Now even if I offer $ she also refuse sia. I feel so lost now. Feel so ashamed now to fall into the kc trap. Feel like a fool but want to win her back. So lost. 😢

[Shiofukis]

Every month, deposit part of your salary to me, I will make sure u are happy every trip in HCMC... If not move on with your life.

So 😂 funny

[4Dguru]

Now even if I offer $ she also refuse sia. I feel so lost now. Feel so ashamed now to fall into the kc trap. Feel like a fool but want to win her back. So lost. 😢

Your offers are too little! Maybe u can try to WU her $3-5K every month. I am sure she will be back with you.

[Satki5]

$3k-$5k is too much. I do not earn as much as the bros here do. I am just an average working class Singapore man.

[Tai_zi21]

Bros I need help and advice from all the SEASONED samsters.
Hi bros. I got a problem with a Vb. Ok, the story goes like this. I know her from a ktv and the 2 months she was here, she said that i was the second man that she had sex with. Subsequently after she goes back to vietnam, I went to look for her 2 times and had the regular bonking and meals etc. After the 2nd trip, she totally cut all ties such as delete the WeChat and block me totally. She is a 20 yr girl while I am in my mid thirties. After asking from my friend to find out the reason for the sudden change in attitude, I realise she said that I did not help her in terms of giving her money as she said that she do not work in Vietnam and needs money to survive. As a typical Singaporean, time is the most important thing we can give to our gf so I think by visiting her monthly is the best gift I can give to her. There are plans to marry her but now. Haizzzzz...... Where did the r/s go wrong? Despite numerous attempts to give her money this and that now, she is sibei heartless and refuse to have any contact with me now. What should I do? How can I get her back? My heart aches so much whenever I think of her.

Let me give u the piece of advice that you dun wish to hear

Do u know how many Vietnam gal working at Ktv here? My Guess is around 500-1000 gals changing every few months

What do u love about her? Gd character? Pretty? Big boobs? Nice figure?

Marry someone u know for 2 months? How much do u know abt her?

So pls go find someone new... many Ktv gals willing to open legs for you and call you darling when you offer them the right amount of money

[naemlo]

$3k-$5k is too much. I do not earn as much as the bros here do. I am just an average working class Singapore man.

Then suck thumb... sleep alone and dun think too much. Wait till u can earn more then this type of gers are for u... Dun be an attention seeker and ask stupid question. U know the reason, it is about money... if u still can't face the truth, go Kallang river n jump.

[ahpiao]

You guys are old fashion and not realise the changes....the trend now is marry viet whore u fuck.

Didn't realised that the thread I started almost 11 years ago is still surviving till today :eek:

[ahpiao]

Marry viet whore u fuck are the latest trend now. :D

Let me give u the piece of advice that you dun wish to hear

Do u know how many Vietnam gal working at Ktv here? My Guess is around 500-1000 gals changing every few months

What do u love about her? Gd character? Pretty? Big boobs? Nice figure?

Marry someone u know for 2 months? How much do u know abt her?

So pls go find someone new... many Ktv gals willing to open legs for you and call you darling when you offer them the right amount of money

[Satki5]

Thanks for all the advice bros. I think I too in love with her liaoz. Hope time can help me to forget her and move on. It’s painful just thinking of her and I hope time can heal the pain real quick. :mad:

[naemlo]

i remember my first crush at 15 i was like this....

U were late, I had mine at 12.

[Hurricane88]

Thanks for all the advice bros. I think I too in love with her liaoz. Hope time can help me to forget her and move on. It’s painful just thinking of her and I hope time can heal the pain real quick. :mad:

in any r/s once you fell in love means you are showing you are desperate and needy...this is the end of any r/s...:)

as a man you should have self-mastery and act as though you are the PRIZE...and her loss if she reject you...:)

now you should go out and date 100 gals so you can immediately forget her....always abundance of gals out there...:)

[Aware66]

Let me give u the piece of advice that you dun wish to hear

Do u know how many Vietnam gal working at Ktv here? My Guess is around 500-1000 gals changing every few months

What do u love about her? Gd character? Pretty? Big boobs? Nice figure?

Marry someone u know for 2 months? How much do u know abt her?

So pls go find someone new... many Ktv gals willing to open legs for you and call you darling when you offer them the right amount of money

Fair comment. Just up you with 9 humble points.

[okcis]

Hi all, can someone help me out. Based on past experiences, is it possible for my bx to still cheat on me even though I see her everyday? Also how many times can she enter singapore ?

[naemlo]

Hi all, can someone help me out. Based on past experiences, is it possible for my bx to still cheat on me even though I see her everyday? Also how many times can she enter singapore ?

Can and cannot cheat u, how we know? Your bx, why come n asked this type of question? How many times also depends on ICA... btw since your bx, she should have proper visa in SG right?

[ahpiao]

I think he breach the rule, marry a whore used to work in SG.

Can and cannot cheat u, how we know? Your bx, why come n asked this type of question? How many times also depends on ICA... btw since your bx, she should have proper visa in SG right?

[okcis]

Not married yet. She’s a WL but we see each other everyday. Is it possible that she’s seeing other guys as well? I’ve met her parents and they have talked about marriage to me. This case, does it mean she shouldn’t have brought any other guys back to her parents before? Thank you Bros for helping.

[naemlo]

Not married yet. She’s a WL but we see each other everyday. Is it possible that she’s seeing other guys as well? I’ve met her parents and they have talked about marriage to me. This case, does it mean she shouldn’t have brought any other guys back to her parents before? Thank you Bros for helping.

U deserve a good f.... how old are u? She is a WL.. lies are 1 of her tactic and men are her income. If u think u can trusted her keeping her virgin for u then go ahead n live a happy ever life, else grow up and move on.

[naemlo]

the fact he come to a sex forum asking strangers for their opinion about his bx that he is planning to marry shows how intelligent he is, men of such low intelligence will surely be treated as the full they are by everyone....so sure good chance he being cheated just because he stupid

Recently quite a no. of idiots in Vietnam threads.... I am surprised u were so late on these.

[okcis]

I am sorry if my post somehow offend anyone here. I am genuinely asking for help. I understand where you guys are coming from. I have been reading the past entries on this forum and I have seen many bad experiences with WL. But I just want to know if there are cases where their bx have brought them to see the parents. I may seem stupid for asking such questions here but right now, I really really can't see any "holes" and the family treat me well too. I'm sorry if there are any similar stories been posted here before, I may have missed them.

Can these WL acting skills be really that good? Or do the parents usually help in acting with their daughter? They seemed genuine when talking about marriage. And is it possible I am not the only guy she brings back home? I guess I need more reasons (and probably any similar real life experiences from bros here) to help convince myself to get me out of this trap.

I went to visit her in Vietnam and she came back with me a week ago. Thus, have to go back to working as a WL. During the time when she was in Vietnam, we video call each other every day. And when I visited her, she was together with me for the whole week. Is there any possibility that she may have another boyfriend and yet was still able to stay with me everyday when I was there?

I am 24 this year and of course, I don't intend to marry her right now yet. Thank you bros for taking the time to reply me. I am sorry again if it offends you guys in any way.

[Hurricane88]

Not married yet. She’s a WL but we see each other everyday. Is it possible that she’s seeing other guys as well? I’ve met her parents and they have talked about marriage to me. This case, does it mean she shouldn’t have brought any other guys back to her parents before? Thank you Bros for helping.

"See each other everyday" - I don't think so....unless you live with her in Wetnam...:)

I am sorry if my post somehow offend anyone here. I am genuinely asking for help. I understand where you guys are coming from. I have been reading the past entries on this forum and I have seen many bad experiences with WL. But I just want to know if there are cases where their bx have brought them to see the parents. I may seem stupid for asking such questions here but right now, I really really can't see any "holes" and the family treat me well too. I'm sorry if there are any similar stories been posted here before, I may have missed them.

Can these WL acting skills be really that good? Or do the parents usually help in acting with their daughter? They seemed genuine when talking about marriage. And is it possible I am not the only guy she brings back home? I guess I need more reasons (and probably any similar real life experiences from bros here) to help convince myself to get me out of this trap.

I went to visit her in Vietnam and she came back with me a week ago. Thus, have to go back to working as a WL. During the time when she was in Vietnam, we video call each other every day. And when I visited her, she was together with me for the whole week. Is there any possibility that she may have another boyfriend and yet was still able to stay with me everyday when I was there?

I am 24 this year and of course, I don't intend to marry her right now yet. Thank you bros for taking the time to reply me. I am sorry again if it offends you guys in any way.

I am sure you missed many stories in this thread becos you are blindly in love...:)

Read this back in 2014...https://samsforum.com/showpost.php?p=11859964&postcount=20454

Gal's parents will not be bothered too much of which bf she brought home....so long parents received gifts including money...:)

I had quoted this many times in my posts here..."If you trust a WL then pigs can climb trees"...:)

BTW, you are 24 yrs old and wanted to get married...why dun you delay marriage and observe her for 2 to 3 years before making decision...bet you she cannot even last 6 months. if you stopped giving her plenty of $$$....**

[naemlo]

I went to visit her in Vietnam and she came back with me a week ago. Thus, have to go back to working as a WL.

I have to salute u, maybe my male ego is high... a ger whom u have intention to marry, u still allow her to be fondled by dirty old men like me. :D BTW, since u can't support her, after marriage will she be allowed to go bed with strangers because of $$$? If u think after marriage, she will not demand $$$ then u are too naive. Her family, her uncles, aunties, cows, dogs, cats need to be well fed. Her furniture, bike, fridge, tv needs to be repaired or change. Her house needs to renovate... Get real, puppy love or honeymoon period is always sweet... reality bites.

If u still hopeful and looking forward to this relationship, then just go ahead... it is your life.

[Th4r]

I am sorry if my post somehow offend anyone here. I am genuinely asking for help. I understand where you guys are coming from. I have been reading the past entries on this forum and I have seen many bad experiences with WL. But I just want to know if there are cases where their bx have brought them to see the parents. I may seem stupid for asking such questions here but right now, I really really can't see any "holes" and the family treat me well too. I'm sorry if there are any similar stories been posted here before, I may have missed them.

Can these WL acting skills be really that good? Or do the parents usually help in acting with their daughter? They seemed genuine when talking about marriage. And is it possible I am not the only guy she brings back home? I guess I need more reasons (and probably any similar real life experiences from bros here) to help convince myself to get me out of this trap.

I went to visit her in Vietnam and she came back with me a week ago. Thus, have to go back to working as a WL. During the time when she was in Vietnam, we video call each other every day. And when I visited her, she was together with me for the whole week. Is there any possibility that she may have another boyfriend and yet was still able to stay with me everyday when I was there?

I am 24 this year and of course, I don't intend to marry her right now yet. Thank you bros for taking the time to reply me. I am sorry again if it offends you guys in any way.

They don't have to act to like you, they get fondled by wrinkled old men everyday remember? So easy to really like a young guy. Guys go see viet bx parents all the time.

And of course they genuine, tell her you can only give 1k angbao for marriage, see how more genuine they get.

Possible no other bf, possible you're the only guy in the world that think she's pretty and good enough to marry, even when working, why not? Doesn't mean she don't go hotels with her customers though, sadly.

Seriously, what do you think u can get out of marriage that you're not getting now? Most wl can't cook, don't know how to take care of family cos how they are brought up, most will love their families more than you, has shitty friends, can't speak english/chinese well to work normal jobs here.

Go take some night courses at smu etc hook up with a school mate more fun, seriously.

[okcis]

"See each other everyday" - I don't think so....unless you live with her in Wetnam...:)



I am sure you missed many stories in this thread becos you are blindly in love...:)

Read this back in 2014...https://samsforum.com/showpost.php?p=11859964&postcount=20454

Gal's parents will not be bothered too much of which bf she brought home....so long parents received gifts including money...:)

I had quoted this many times in my posts here..."If you trust a WL then pigs can climb trees"...:)

BTW, you are 24 yrs old and wanted to get married...why dun you delay marriage and observe her for 2 to 3 years before making decision...bet you she cannot even last 6 months. if you stopped giving her plenty of $$$....**

Sorry Hurricane88 bro, I don't understand the first part of your reply. Does it mean that even though I see her everyday, I will not be able to tell unless I stay with her in Vietnam everyday?

Over the past week, I have been reading the posts in this thread from Page 1 and I'm only still at Page 260. I do see a lot of bros sharing their experiences and I know most of the outcomes with WLs are bad. Really thankful for this thread which had a lot of bros contributing to. But there is still a long way to go for me to finish reading all 1000+ pages. I know you are one of the earliest bros that has been contributing since 9 years ago. Can I ask if the "trend" is still the same among WLs? I have also learnt a lot about vietnamese culture from this thread. Have anything changed since 2007? Is money still very important in their eyes? And are they still as good as lying?

Also, to add on, I do not own a car so she should know that I am really poor. So I don't know what she's exactly thinking if she is only with me for the money.

And also, usually on average, how long does it take before they start exposing themselves and asking for money?

Sorry that I'm asking so many questions. Hope that bro Hurricane88 can advise as you are one of the more experienced ones here. Thank you..

[okcis]

I have to salute u, maybe my male ego is high... a ger whom u have intention to marry, u still allow her to be fondled by dirty old men like me. :D BTW, since u can't support her, after marriage will she be allowed to go bed with strangers because of $$$? If u think after marriage, she will not demand $$$ then u are too naive. Her family, her uncles, aunties, cows, dogs, cats need to be well fed. Her furniture, bike, fridge, tv needs to be repaired or change. Her house needs to renovate... Get real, puppy love or honeymoon period is always sweet... reality bites.

If u still hopeful and looking forward to this relationship, then just go ahead... it is your life.

My ego is not low either but I cannot provide her enough for her to stop working. I do meet her everyday after her work though. Kind of to make sure that she gets home too. Given this, is there any way she could still be have other guys besides me? Hope that bro Hurricane88 can help to advise on this as well.

I understand what you mean. I don't think I can support her family in the future either, given that I am really poor. But for now, I try not to think too far yet, and enjoy the present. Just very concerned if there are any guys other than me who is in close contact with her.

I also know bro naemlo has been in this thread for one of the longest, since 2007. Can i also trouble you to advise on the above questions to hurricane88 bro? Will really appreciate it...

I understand that it's my choice after all. I don't expect that she is 100% true to me, given other bro's experiences. But I feel that I need enough 'evidence' to convince myself to get out of this now as I am too blinded by love. So it will really help if any bros have similar experiences to share -- that is, being poor but yet your GF is willing to meet you everyday after her work. Any real life stories on how this is only part of their plan?

Thank you again for helping. Really appreciated

[okcis]

They don't have to act to like you, they get fondled by wrinkled old men everyday remember? So easy to really like a young guy. Guys go see viet bx parents all the time.

And of course they genuine, tell her you can only give 1k angbao for marriage, see how more genuine they get.

Possible no other bf, possible you're the only guy in the world that think she's pretty and good enough to marry, even when working, why not? Doesn't mean she don't go hotels with her customers though, sadly.

Seriously, what do you think u can get out of marriage that you're not getting now? Most wl can't cook, don't know how to take care of family cos how they are brought up, most will love their families more than you, has shitty friends, can't speak english/chinese well to work normal jobs here.

Go take some night courses at smu etc hook up with a school mate more fun, seriously.

I don't really chiong in this scene, probably that's why I'm considered new to be exposed to all these and need to read on other bros' experiences. I meet her everyday after her work and will be with her till the morning. Are there any similar experiences like this? It would really help to convince me that there are still ways for her to mess around behind my back. Because right now, from what I see is that she doesn't go hotel with any other guys since I see her everyday.

Or maybe can bro enlighten me on their standard routines? What time do they usually knock off? Are they allowed to leave work earlier and go other places? I'm hoping she doesn't do so and pretend to be at work and only meeting me after that. I'm really new to this chionging scene and I have not seen much. So I don't know the "rules" for these girls in these KTV places.

Hope I don't offend anyone in this thread. Coming from someone who is really new to this, I genuinely want to get some advice and help....

[naemlo]

Sorry that I'm asking so many questions. Hope that bro Hurricane88 can advise as you are one of the more experienced ones here. Thank you..

H88 is the right person with patience to answer so many naive questions... :D

[okcis]

H88 is the right person with patience to answer so many naive questions... :D

Bro naemlo.. I need your help too.. My post is being moderated so it has not shown up on the thread yet. I hope you can help in giving some advice..

[Hurricane88]

H88 is the right person with patience to answer so many naive questions... :D

Wow kena arrow big time...:)

Hard to explain to guys who are weak and needy...a guy hardly see enough of WL or cheated long enough will never learn his lesson...is a bitter pill to swallow...:)

When a guy dun behave as though there are 1000 gals who love him and abundance mindset will become jealous and needy which kill any relationships...:)

[naemlo]

Wow kena arrow big time...:)

Hard to explain to guys who are weak and needy...a guy hardly see enough of WL or cheated long enough will never learn his lesson...is a bitter pill to swallow...:)


Bring him to meet more pretties then he will change his mindset.

[Hurricane88]

Sorry Hurricane88 bro, I don't understand the first part of your reply. Does it mean that even though I see her everyday, I will not be able to tell unless I stay with her in Vietnam everyday?


See her as you are together with her 24 hours and not talk online...:)




I have also learnt a lot about vietnamese culture from this thread. Have anything changed since 2007? Is money still very important in their eyes? And are they still as good as lying?


Nothing has changed...Woman in Vietnam still responsible to bring home money and no money cannot go home to visit parents...All taught by the same woman master....money first...so tell me wht a culture you have learn....:)


And also, usually on average, how long does it take before they start exposing themselves and asking for money?


If you dun give money she can exposed herself within 1 month...most cannot last more than 6 months even you started giving her some money...can always try to ask your friends who she dun know to test her...ask her go hotel to fark...:)

Read my post...if you fell in love you already lost...dun ever touch WL...their objectives to make money and nothing else...:)

[Hurricane88]

Bring him to meet more pretties then he will change his mindset.

seriously I am not keen to meet anyone here anymore...:)

[naemlo]

seriously I am not keen to meet anyone here anymore...:)

Right, same as me. A lot of ungrateful brats.

[okcis]

Right, same as me. A lot of ungrateful brats.

Bros don’t get me wrong. I do understand where you guys are coming from. If not I wouldn’t post here asking for advice. I just want to know if there are any stories of similar situation and setting. So that I can watch out for the lies.

Thank you for taking the time to reply.

[duckking]

I am 24 this year and of course, I don't intend to marry her right now yet. Thank you bros for taking the time to reply me. I am sorry again if it offends you guys in any way.

He already said he is 24 years old. Why you guys need to give him so much stick ?

H88 is the right person with patience to answer so many naive questions... :D

Wow kena arrow big time...:)

Hard to explain to guys who are weak and needy...

Right, same as me. A lot of ungrateful brats.

Maybe you guys are older and more experienced. But why need to shoot down a guy only 24 years old ? How street smart and worldly you were when you were 24 ?

I think these kind of mistakes, everyone makes, no matter age. Old man, experienced players, also get conned once in a while.

Maybe you guys think you should be harsh so that he will understand and learn faster. Even so, I think no need to call him naïve or week or needy.

You call people ungrateful. But people come here and ask for advice humbly and your attitude is, I find, dismissive and arrogant.

[Hurricane88]

Right, same as me. A lot of ungrateful brats.

See what we meant....unhappy with our comment and then why bother to ask in the first place...now use the original nick to shoot back at us...anyway we knew all these pattern...:rolleyes:

[naemlo]

You call people ungrateful. But people come here and ask for advice humbly and your attitude is, I find, dismissive and arrogant.

Ya, we are dismissive and arrogant.... it will be wise for u to take care of him.

See what we meant....unhappy with our comment and then why bother to ask in the first place...now use the original nick to shoot back at us...anyway we knew all these pattern...:rolleyes:

Here we go again, same old shit again.

[duckking]

oh no no no, i dont play these kind of new nick old nick nonsense. I also not interested in all the upping n zapping points nonsense. All these things inside your head only. I have been here a long time but I just started to follow this thread, currently now at page 380+.

I have seen naemlo and hurricane posts many times, ranging from those a few years back. To be frank i agree with many things you guys have said. Very frank very direct n I think most are borne out of good will. I just dont know why your need to adopt such a superior attitude everytime. I think i not the first one to criticize your outlook in this forum.

you can say if people not happy why ask for ur advise, same thing, if u think he dont deserve it, why u advise him ? Same thing.

[duckking]

I read every page of this damn thread. My fav one on page 349. Donkey years ago. I like how this guy fucked naemlo n namelo has no reply ( except u know...saying " aiyah, u clone urself again i know these stuffs la..")

The problem with bullies is that when they meet a bigger bully, they become cowards.

Naemlo, i paste the following for u because i think you and hurricane can do with a bit of humility sometimes.

Don't be bother by this kind of people online, his kind are a dime a dozen. These like of people like to stroke their e-penis online. Everything they must be better then you, everything they must be smarter then you, everything they must know more then you.

You say you F 10 girls..they must say they F 100 girls.

You say you buy this for $1, they must say I buy this for 50 cents.

You say you know ABC, they must say they know ABCD.

These messages only date back to around a week..image how many times he have cum while masturbating online.

No wonder girls always say guys will still behave childishly at certain aspects no matter how old they are. Everything also must compare, everything also must win then happy. A car overtakes you and goes into you lane, must overtake back then will be happy.

Looks like I can say goodbye to my points, oh well at least I have said my piece. Another thing, these people will always 1 side say.."So much point for what?? Can get free bonk issit??" then another side, go post porn at other section, go up people with high power, then ask them to up back. :rolleyes:

http://www.sammyboyforum.com/sammyboy-link-picture-exchange-plaza/78232-naemlo-av.html

[Hurricane88]

Ya, we are dismissive and arrogant.... it will be wise for u to take care of him.

Here we go again, same old shit again.

Actually I dun want to reply becos nothing new...after so many years in Vietnam the culture had not changed...just like now all the HCM gals are hoping to land a prized ipHone X worth 40 mil or more as supply is low....:)

Was specifically requested to reply and one more nick wrote a long pm to me...I had my fair share of success in helping a few bros to see the real picture when dealing with WL...:)

You live in Hanoi, hcm, PP, Bkk, etc...and your experiences very valuable dealing with WL...:)

Not keen to get into any argument...totally waste of time...:)

[naemlo]

Not keen to get into any argument...totally waste of time...:)

Been in the forum for so many years to understand these shit ppl.

Once in awhile, u will see "hero" comes in bark a bit then goes hiding. Another type is when he needs info, he will bark for it then disappear again. No point arguing with them, let them win. This is virtual world, win or lose dun gain anything. Barking does make him stupid. :D Frankly, this forum makes me learnt a lot, esp SG men. :D

[duckking]

Agreed! I also learnt a lot! My favourite post in this thread is this one!

Wow, another excellent 1 liner from the great Mr I know It all, I have done it all, I have seen it all. Reminds me of the PAP, anything they don't like hear or talk about, just give some excuse and casually brush it away and pretend nothing has happened.

There is no need for any support. I am not here to "win" you. Not everything is a competition, contrary to what you think. I'm just here to state what I think and share with everyone what I saw, I did not make anything up. Surely I have this right?? What the mature readers here get out of this is entirely up to them. They already have their opinions of you and me and that's pretty much the end of the story.

Maybe I will get more then 1 line and hopefully some points from you if I say what you constantly need to hear??

You are one of the greatest chiongster in SBF history. You have fuck your way around the world. Some say you are the best in SG, KL, JKT, BKK, HCMC. Girls fall in love with you whenever they come in contact with your irresistible charm. You know every gal in JC, GL or whatever place you go to. Give you a name and you will know who she is. If she is pretty you would already have up her years ago. Guys like us can only pick up your leftovers. You can drink the most without getting drunk. Any gal problems just ask you. You have seen it all, you know how everybody thinks and know how everything works.

Enough for you?? Or you need more?? Just say word!! I will do anything for points. :o

Thanks for not zapping me for speaking my mind!! Ok then, do continue sharing porn for the benefits of us horny bros here. :o

Also thanks for the points. You know who you are!! I don't mind to be the one to say things which other people don't want to hear.

Basically, what happened was this 'Ballstoyou' fucked Naemlo upside down. Literally. And Naemlo had no reply because he could not match Ballstoyou's eloquency. Could not at all. Its a classic case of a bully (naemlo) getting bullied!

You guys have time go back read - page 348-350. Its really hilarious!

ok I go back to page 390 and continue. You guys continue here! See ya!

[Tai_zi21]

Bros don’t get me wrong. I do understand where you guys are coming from. If not I wouldn’t post here asking for advice. I just want to know if there are any stories of similar situation and setting. So that I can watch out for the lies.

Thank you for taking the time to reply.

Since I am sitting alone in the mrt and nothing to do let me reply you

My first question what do u love about her? Character? Take gd care of you? Wife material for you to marry? Sex was wonderful? Nice figure? Pretty?

Let me share with u my own experiences... went to this viet ktv as usual saw this very pretty gal... Try wooing her and after 2 visit I get to bonk her without her asking for money.. I dun look like Andy Lau or have not much money Hor... lol but of cos like I always mention no free sex in the world... of cos I buy her gifts from time to time... do I love her? Of cos no... but do I enjoy having sex with her? Yes for sure... understand the meaning of love and lust...

Remember for every pretty gal you see... there is another more pretty gal waiting for u... u r still 24 still young to see the world... ask urself what can u give her? U think given love and bread which 1 will they choose?

Like I always say ppl dun come here for advise... ppl come here to listen to what they Wan... one of the senior in sbf tell me de

The choices is yours... I shall rest my case here

Cheers

[Hurricane88]

Remember for every pretty gal you see... there is another more pretty gal waiting for u... u r still 24 still young to see the world... ask urself what can u give her? U think given love and bread which 1 will they choose?

Like I always say ppl dun come here for advise... ppl come here to listen to what they Wan... one of the senior in sbf tell me de

The choices is yours... I shall rest my case here

Cheers

You have the abundance mindset and always have more better gals waiting....bro, you can play this WL game...:)

I agreed with you that samsters come here to read what they hope to hear...as if there will be xmas every month...no, i dun buy that...my response for WL had been consistent after so many years...can always seacrh for my posts in this thread...:)

Here we have to differentiate WL with non-WL...I had said enough of WL because they are here to suck money...:)

Let me tell a story...almost 3 years ago, a samster consulted me about WL...I was very negative and he was naive...whatever I advised he refused to listen...within 3 months the r/s broke after he found out all her lies...I did guide him how to find out the truth and exposed lies...:)

After that he saw light but went back to Vietnam for last trip...there he found a non-WL and within 1 year they were happily married with a bouncing baby a year later...there is hope and he admitted to me that he was stubborn and naive at first...appreciated all the guidance and we were close friends now...&&

[ahpiao]

You guys are really antique and old fashion...:D

Now the latest trend is date and marry whore u fuck..:D

I have to salute u, maybe my male ego is high... a ger whom u have intention to marry, u still allow her to be fondled by dirty old men like me.


went to this viet ktv as usual saw this very pretty gal... Try wooing her and after 2 visit I get to bonk her without her asking for money.. I dun look like Andy Lau or have not much money Hor... lol but of cos like I always mention no free sex in the world... of cos I buy her gifts from time to time... do I love her? Of cos no... but do I enjoy having sex with her? Yes for sure... understand the meaning of love and lust...


Here we have to differentiate WL with non-WL...

[Tai_zi21]

You guys are really antique and old fashion...:D

Now the latest trend is date and marry whore u fuck..:D

Well antique and old fashion can still save u some money why not? :D

At least I dun need worry if any gals is seeing any guys behind me...

Cheers

[FireShark]

Bros I need help and advice from all the SEASONED samsters.
Hi bros. I got a problem with a Vb. Ok, the story goes like this. I know her from a ktv and the 2 months she was here, she said that i was the second man that she had sex with. Subsequently after she goes back to vietnam, I went to look for her 2 times and had the regular bonking and meals etc. After the 2nd trip, she totally cut all ties such as delete the WeChat and block me totally. She is a 20 yr girl while I am in my mid thirties. After asking from my friend to find out the reason for the sudden change in attitude, I realise she said that I did not help her in terms of giving her money as she said that she do not work in Vietnam and needs money to survive. As a typical Singaporean, time is the most important thing we can give to our gf so I think by visiting her monthly is the best gift I can give to her. There are plans to marry her but now. Haizzzzz...... Where did the r/s go wrong? Despite numerous attempts to give her money this and that now, she is sibei heartless and refuse to have any contact with me now. What should I do? How can I get her back? My heart aches so much whenever I think of her.

Don't waste your time on her anymore. VB tend to be greedy.

$3k-$5k is too much. I do not earn as much as the bros here do. I am just an average working class Singapore man.

Not everyone here earn much too. There are still many others flowers you can pick; why waste time on such vb.

Hi all, can someone help me out. Based on past experiences, is it possible for my bx to still cheat on me even though I see her everyday? Also how many times can she enter singapore ?


I am sorry if my post somehow offend anyone here. I am genuinely asking for help. I understand where you guys are coming from. I have been reading the past entries on this forum and I have seen many bad experiences with WL. But I just want to know if there are cases where their bx have brought them to see the parents. I may seem stupid for asking such questions here but right now, I really really can't see any "holes" and the family treat me well too. I'm sorry if there are any similar stories been posted here before, I may have missed them.

Can these WL acting skills be really that good? Or do the parents usually help in acting with their daughter? They seemed genuine when talking about marriage. And is it possible I am not the only guy she brings back home? I guess I need more reasons (and probably any similar real life experiences from bros here) to help convince myself to get me out of this trap.

I went to visit her in Vietnam and she came back with me a week ago. Thus, have to go back to working as a WL. During the time when she was in Vietnam, we video call each other every day. And when I visited her, she was together with me for the whole week. Is there any possibility that she may have another boyfriend and yet was still able to stay with me everyday when I was there?

I am 24 this year and of course, I don't intend to marry her right now yet. Thank you bros for taking the time to reply me. I am sorry again if it offends you guys in any way.

All older Samster like Naemlo & H88 had tried to give you simple advice but if u continue to ask; they will give u sarcastic advice so that you can't take it. This sarcastic advice wanted you to wake up your ideas. You are only 24 this year and yet seen the world of Vietnam yet. There are good and bad vb but chances of bad is very high. Like everyone said; many need $$$ to help their family. Like me; i had meet many different vb. 2 of them even willing to give me thousand of dollars when I in need. You should know life in VN is not as good as Spore. They hoped that they could come to Spore & had a better life. I had shared many real story before about good VB; but bad vb stories tend to be more cos good story pple tend not to share. You are still young; you got to think more far. You will not be able to support her after your marriage. She will work. If she dun mind work in Hawker or food court or maybe she is good in manicure; yes you can consider her. But if she intend to work in KTV or beer promoter; you can forget abt it. 9 out of 10 who return to KTV end up in divorce. 2 of my friends married vb recently; 1 went to manicure; and the other help her father in law sell food in the market.

Last week; I went to Taman Johor Jeya food court; saw 2 vb working with their husband selling food there. As I can speak vnese; I talk to them in vnese. Know that they had married for few years and had been helping their husband selling food. Get a wife who can suffer together with you

[okcis]

To bro duckking, thank you for understanding my concern as to why I am posting my enquiry here.

To bro Hurricane88 and naemlo, firstly I want to make things clear that I am not bro duckking and definitely not posting from a new account created by bro duckking or any of that sort. I have only read up to year 2008 of this thread so I am not even aware of the presence of his account here. You all may have met some of other samsters doing this, but I don't think it's nice to make a false assumption of us. I don't think it's fair for bro duckking to be wronged like this.

Even though I am not done with reading the entire thread, I know both of you are the seniors here. Other than TS bro SingViet, I actually respect both of you a lot for contributing so much and provided a lot of advice in this thread. In fact, I was glad to receive replies from both of you when I first posted here because I know how experienced both of you are and I was relieved to know that both of you are still active in this forum.

But I did not expect to be misunderstood. I did mention that I am new in this chionging scene, so I genuinely needed advice. I don't know (yet) what sort of unhappiness has been caused in this thread over the past years. But I hope you guys remember from the earlier part of the thread, that there are still newbies like me around. And it's not that I choose to walk into this trap. Just like any other bros here who have been caught in this once, we are all blinded by love unknowingly and not by choice. It's not that we refuse to listen to the advice, I'm sure most of us do but we can't absorb it in just yet. And that also doesn't mean we do not accept the kind advice given. For myself, my mind is aware that probably 98% of WL are up to no good but I feel that I need more to be convinced, to be more clear minded.

I have mentioned that I see no loopholes in my girl yet. But that doesn't mean that I insist that you guys are wrong about her and I honestly have never thought so. I believe I have been misunderstood here. It may seems like I am defending her but no. I am just stating the context and asking if there are any stories/experiences that have the exact same context or 'plot'. I know there are countless stories shared here and mostly are similar but I have yet (as of now) to read one that has the same as what I am experiencing. I also really hope that I can get out of this asap, but we all should know that it is easier said than done when we are too blinded by love. And for my character, I am one that has to expose her lies before I can walk away. I know there is no need for this so I admit this is a bad point of mine.

Perhaps both bros have met a few other samsters from the past years who did not appreciate the advice given. But I hope you know there are still people who came here genuinely asking for help and are truly appreciative of any help provided. If I don't agree with most of the advice given here, I wouldn't have bothered reading every single page from Page 1, and I wouldn't still be here asking for advice. It's because I trust the experiences of the seniors here, that's why I really hope to get some help here.

I hope that no offence is taken from this post. These are just my true thoughts and opinions. I'm still grateful for the advice given to me by Hurricane88 & naemlo in the first couple of posts. Also thank you to bro Th4r, Tai_zi21 and FireShark for your replies. Sorry that my presence here has created some unhappiness. I will continue with reading the posts and hopefully will wake up in time to get out of this trap.

Cheers.

[Th4r]

I don't really chiong in this scene, probably that's why I'm considered new to be exposed to all these and need to read on other bros' experiences. I meet her everyday after her work and will be with her till the morning. Are there any similar experiences like this? It would really help to convince me that there are still ways for her to mess around behind my back. Because right now, from what I see is that she doesn't go hotel with any other guys since I see her everyday.

Or maybe can bro enlighten me on their standard routines? What time do they usually knock off? Are they allowed to leave work earlier and go other places? I'm hoping she doesn't do so and pretend to be at work and only meeting me after that. I'm really new to this chionging scene and I have not seen much. So I don't know the "rules" for these girls in these KTV places.

Hope I don't offend anyone in this thread. Coming from someone who is really new to this, I genuinely want to get some advice and help....

You're 24 ... dude, don't waste your life spending EVERY night with her just so you can be sure she don't cheat. Seriously, of course no one here trust her, we don't know her (plus she's "working").

But if you have to ask, seems you're somewhat doubtful too. Go spend more time on your work and friends. If she deserve your trust, let her earn it ... though most WL don't give a shit about earning trust, don't even think they really know they have to earn it.

Again, she's making her living, bloody go make your's, or make it better :)

[FireShark]

I have mentioned that I see no loopholes in my girl yet. But that doesn't mean that I insist that you guys are wrong about her and I honestly have never thought so. I believe I have been misunderstood here. It may seems like I am defending her but no. I am just stating the context and asking if there are any stories/experiences that have the exact same context or 'plot'. I know there are countless stories shared here and mostly are similar but I have yet (as of now) to read one that has the same as what I am experiencing. I also really hope that I can get out of this asap, but we all should know that it is easier said than done when we are too blinded by love. And for my character, I am one that has to expose her lies before I can walk away. I know there is no need for this so I admit this is a bad point of mine.

I hope that no offence is taken from this post. These are just my true thoughts and opinions. I'm still grateful for the advice given to me by Hurricane88 & naemlo in the first couple of posts. Also thank you to bro Th4r, Tai_zi21 and FireShark for your replies. Sorry that my presence here has created some unhappiness. I will continue with reading the posts and hopefully will wake up in time to get out of this trap.

Cheers.

You didn't create unhappiness here. They just wanted to wake up your idea. You wont know how well some VB can plan. They can plan until so well without loophole for you to catch. Those were past senior experience sharing to newbie chionging now. Like I said there are good & bad vb but many vb are easily influence by their frds & also pressure from family. Just chiong with care

[neutron]

To bro duckking, thank you for understanding my concern as to why I am posting my enquiry here.

I have mentioned that I see no loopholes in my girl yet. But that doesn't mean that I insist that you guys are wrong about her and I honestly have never thought so. I believe I have been misunderstood here. It may seems like I am defending her but no. I am just stating the context and asking if there are any stories/experiences that have the exact same context or 'plot'. I know there are countless stories shared here and mostly are similar but I have yet (as of now) to read one that has the same as what I am experiencing. I also really hope that I can get out of this asap, but we all should know that it is easier said than done when we are too blinded by love. And for my character, I am one that has to expose her lies before I can walk away. I know there is no need for this so I admit this is a bad point of mine.



Just like you, met a girl in KTV 4 years ago. Also around mid 20s. Paid her only the first time then brought her out for supper the next day. Subsequently, she accompany me every night in my house after work for free, sacrificing her lost of income by not going to hotel with any customer. Her friend also kept complaining she is stupid by wasting her time in SG. Confused with her action, I again like you, stereotype of KTV girl at first but heart gradually soften. Overtime, you will slowly think maybe this can work out.

After her 30 days visa up, she return to vn and I went to visit her. She brought me to her hometown and intro family and friends making me feel like she is very serious with me. She help her parents to run a eating house which i thought was decent. The R/S went on for almost a year until 1 day I caught her having another BF and since then never contact her. She flooded my phone with message and call with apologies but I decided a clean break. Similar to the rest, in between have family problem such as brother gambling problem la bla bla. Fortunately, I got out the situation without committing much time and $.

Based on your post, you are judging them based on your upbringing and culture which is very different over there. Dont bother overthinking why they do this and that unless you know their culture well. Now they like you, everything also can. Like many have already advised, these girls are different. Their value system is screwed. If you like vietnamese, go meet some decent girls over there and you will understand the differences.

[duckking]

Im now at page 976. This thread is long.....really long.

I would like to ask bro hurricane88 some (personal) questions here. Dont know whether he mind or not....?

[duckking]

Why bro hurricane88 no reply me ??

Angry ? So petty ? So easy to get on his nerves ?

Im younger than you...need to be so petty ? I read all your posts, at least in this thread. I'm really curious as to what you do.

1) What are you doing in Vietnam ? What do you do ? Pleasure or work or business ? And if business, what kind of business ?

2) Do you (have you ever) charge/earn any money from any brothers in SBF for any kind of services rendered ?

If you PM me reply I will keep it there. If you don't want to reply, its fine. Thanks anyway.

[Hurricane88]

He is in sg, a retiree, who got no life besides Vietnam and SBF. He used to be a sex tour agent in Vietnam. Go to international field report thread, and look for HCM threads. Right now the current thread were opened by fireshark, his thread has been closed by him for whatever reasons. Before this nobody allows to post lengthy FR about Vietnam. He also won’t give infos on where to chiong, reason the local police will clamp down the place should it be in this forum. He dictates the HCM thread, making nobody dare to post about chionging place, if you against him, your points will drop to negative red. He got numerous clones FYI.


What a belligerent person...:confused:

after 2 years you still so upset with me banning your original nick...go ahead to spew rubbish info in the forum becos all these will not hurt me...:)

am glad that Best of Thailand is out of here which you are one of the biggest culprit for the big war zone with all your lies and clones...so how many newbies you had scam so far...:)

glad never know you in person...trying to use your clones to chat with me ha?...:)

[Hurricane88]

Upset? Why should I? I’m stating factual here. If not hurt, why you asked Sam to ban me in thai forum? : So who got real hurts here.



War zone? So far didn’t meet any samsters otherwise my pic will be widely circulated around the forum. Like yours. :p

So how’s your charity cum sex trip tour at Vietnam? How’s your sex tour business? I just saw you got another clone created on Dec 2016. With your writing, so easy to notice. Want me to link it here. :D

Clones? I only have 88088, after you asked Sam to ban me because I hit your raw nerve by stating factual things, this nick was born.



Clone to chat with you? Actually there’s many others who not happy with you cause the way you reply. Hence this is why people start to find your fault. :D

waste time with a polemicist...all your gainsay...better enjoy and relax myself over the weekend...:)

[duckking]

I have no idea who anyone in this forum or thread is. I started reading this thread out of interest, and I notice Hurricane88 keeps popping up. Why do you keep contributing to this thread when you don't have a viet wife, don't intend to get one, and keeps dissuading people from getting one? It took me up to 1000 pages to suspect you might have vested interests in this thread. All your posts follow a similar pattern - ultimately asking people to follow you to Vietnam. Like this...

1) I'm sorry you were conned by a Viet girl.....feel so sad
2) you're not like me...I play many girls in Vietnam... but I don't get cheated
3) Come with me to Vietnam...I show you.....

Here newbies think you some kind of 'senior brother cum advisor'. Everyday so kind, so charitable, come here n dispense comforting 'advice' to young newbies who fell into KC traps. Like some kind of god of fortune showering wealth and prosperity upon us. You shower words of wisdom on all the newbies here. Maybe I should write in to SBF - confer on you title 'Minister for information on Vietnamese girls." Another few more years can promote to 'God of information on Vietnamese affairs." Befitting your status in this forum ?

So in reality you are just like us mere mortals - naïve, stupid idiots who need to make a living. So you are a bloody sex tour agent and this is your damn marketing tool and you 'advice' in order to solicit for business. How do the hell do you give people 'advice' when your intention is to earn their money??? Its like....

Bro Hurricane88: "Don't give the WLs money...come, give me instead.."

How the hell is this different from any other online scams ???

Nowadays sex tour agent also can talk like some kind of big shot ? What is the world coming to now ???

[duckking]

No wonder all the HCM threads in this forum so screwed up ?

All the silly food advertisements ? Who are they ? Also tour agents ?

What's all the bickering about ? Tour agents vying for marketing share ? Like some kind of gangs fighting over turfs ??

That's what all the animosity is about ?

[Hurricane88]

So in reality you are just like us mere mortals - naïve, stupid idiots who need to make a living. So you are a bloody sex tour agent and this is your damn marketing tool and you 'advice' in order to solicit for business. How do the hell do you give people 'advice' when your intention is to earn their money??? Its like....

Bro Hurricane88: "Don't give the WLs money...come, give me instead.."

How the hell is this different from any other online scams ???

Nowadays sex tour agent also can talk like some kind of big shot ? What is the world coming to now ???

What a "Loser! Bonehead!"...utter gibes is the best you can do...:)

anyway nothing but you just to soliloquize...:)

[duckking]

I want to put on record, my apologies to Brother Singviet and other readers of this tread, who have come to this thread for the purpose of sharing and giving, as my posts have nothing to do with the thread topic at all.

I got angry because I don't like the way Hurricane88 put down WLs so disdainfully. Maybe its just his way of talking.....

hey yah...forgot to mention my famous quote...thanks for reminding me...

if you trust WL then pigs can climb trees...:)

..but then turns out he actually fighting with them for business....

So I have another quote:

If you can trust Hurricane88, pigs can fly

Or you prefer some more original ? How about 'Hurricane88: Wolf in Sheep's clothings'?

What the hell..

[SingViet]

If you are serious about a viet gal, talk to a guy who has married a viet wife. There are plentiful of them around. They will be ready to give good advice to you or anyone who is thinking of marrying a viet spouse.

I started this thread donkey years ago but has since ' withdrew' from it. I don't see the need for anyone to fight for the title of KING. The KING of Vietnam are the locals, not us .

I have personally married a Vietnamese lady 14 years ago. have 3 kids. my wife has been a Singaporean since 2009 and my kids doing well in school. I remember some years ago when I mentioned my twin gals doing well academically, some senior also gave me the `cold water' treatment. I am glad that my gals did well in PSLE last year. Eldest gal got 264 and second gal 254. Eldest in Raffles Girls Secondary School and younger in Singapore Chinese Girls School IP programme. My wife stick by me for the past 14 years, she went thru with me many ups and downs in life and career.

Talk to your friends who have viet spouse to learn more. Not everyone of them are bad.

Have a good weekend

[Hurricane88]

I have personally married a Vietnamese lady 14 years ago. have 3 kids. my wife has been a Singaporean since 2009 and my kids doing well in school. I remember some years ago when I mentioned my twin gals doing well academically, some senior also gave me the `cold water' treatment. I am glad that my gals did well in PSLE last year. Eldest gal got 264 and second gal 254. Eldest in Raffles Girls Secondary School and younger in Singapore Chinese Girls School IP programme. My wife stick by me for the past 14 years, she went thru with me many ups and downs in life and career.

Have a good weekend

Congrats bro on your twins good results...:)

When I met you at D7 cafe, your twins were very young...:)

these trolls are just losers who broke rules and got banned....seeking to relieve their anger on me...whatever they are saying proved how stupid they are...virtually just bonehead...:)

[Kalv]

If you can trust Hurricane88, pigs can fly
How about 'Hurricane88: Wolf in Sheep's clothings'?


Congratulations on getting power.

Peace gentlemen. Hurricane88 is Boss's Moderator for International Forum - not easy job.

Opinions/Experiences may / will often differ - that is why life is so interesting. No need to agree but please do respect each other.

:) Wishing all a nice day / week.

[Hurricane88]

Congratulations on getting power.

Peace gentlemen. Hurricane88 is Boss's Moderator for International Forum - not easy job.

Opinions/Experiences may / will often differ - that is why life is so interesting. No need to agree but please do respect each other.

Wishing all a nice day / week.

Thanks bro for your support...:)

Just a sore loser bonehead dun understand that as moderator I have to do my job...so long anyone infringe any rules I will censor...because if I dun censor then the Super Mod GreenTea will censor too...but as bonehead he cannot understand that....I proposed ban but up to boss Sam to ban based on merits...his original nick wasn't the only I proposed ban...:)

his arguments are flawed...anyway I dun need to report to him but only report to boss Sam...:)

[duckking]

Thank you, but I really don't care about all these power up and down stuff.

Congratulations on getting power.

Peace gentlemen. Hurricane88 is Boss's Moderator for International Forum - not easy job.

Opinions/Experiences may / will often differ - that is why life is so interesting. No need to agree but please do respect each other.

:) Wishing all a nice day / week.