Understanding Vietnamese Life Partner

[jklpoi]

Yeap, to tell the truth, i really dont mind a single bit about her working and being touched and grope by several men. I guess its just different set of thinking.

Why should i mind when she herself don't even mind.

Maybe because i am brought up thinking that external body contact is just that, touch here a little bit got SGD50-100 take leh, as long as heart belong to me, can liao.

If i can, i also want pple touch me here and there and give me SGD50-100. I will be more than happy to do it.

At least she is honest with me. And tell me what happen at work and so on. Who touch her where, who do what with her. During dating time, she will also tell me who go ST with her, who go ON with her, and how much they give her as tips.

As for AV, i stay very near her workplace, so really not an issue. I can be there 5 mins fully dressed in party mode should there be any problem. I make it a point that she will only be working when i am near her working place.

And if she is really bidding her time with me until she get her PR, then ok loh, i treat it as helping a fellow human being get a better life. Its not like i never get anything in return.

Maybe its just me, i am a guy who can take and put down things easily.

[vietboy]

If your salary is really 3-4K, and she really is willing to stick it out with you, she won't need to work.

As for you being a xiao bai nian, and saying that money goes into your pocket and everybody is happy, you have serious issues dude.

you meant you ok that she being touched or molested by men when she works...wow, I am very impressed how much you love her??...:confused:

if she was caught during any av raid...she will still be send back to Vn if she is on LTVSP...:)

Agreed with the 2 bros here.
Jklpoi, yur wife doesnt have to be a WL to earn $$. There are other ways and other jobs she can go try to meet the $1000 -$1500 per month.

If she kenna caught, means more trouble for u.
If i am you, i would definitely not let my woman get physical with other man in this kind of job.

[vietboy]

Going to share some of my experiences.

I too hear of horror stories of Vietnam ladies asking for money for their families, buy this buy that. But somehow, my ba xa family is very different from typical traditional vietnam family. Its hard to explain, but you have to be there to experience it. Her mum only calls and ask for money for a few things.

1) House rent - SGD200+ every month.
2) Food, clothes, school fees, english school fees, tution school fees for my ba xa 2 kids. - SGD 300-400 every month.

She never even ask for medical fees when she has a genuine case of bad knees. I allow my Ba xa to work because i understand the hardship of living in singapore and she too understand it.

actually, after reading yur story i got question marks above my head like this: :confused:

Where yur MIL lives ha? Rent need S$200+ per mth?? That is at least 3300000VND! Maybe i snoob, i have never heard rent so high unless she stay in big houses or condos. Maybe bros can provide some info on this.

U mentioned yur MIL has many children, why her other children not contributing to the rent? If they are staying together with yur MIL, i see that they have every reasons to contribute.

Dont u have this kind of questions? :confused:

Also, why u still need to take $$ from her? U r earning 3k-4k not enough for u alone to spend?

[SingViet]

Yeap, to tell the truth, i really dont mind a single bit about her working and being touched and grope by several men. I guess its just different set of thinking.

Why should i mind when she herself don't even mind.

Maybe because i am brought up thinking that external body contact is just that, touch here a little bit got SGD50-100 take leh, as long as heart belong to me, can liao.

If i can, i also want pple touch me here and there and give me SGD50-100. I will be more than happy to do it.

At least she is honest with me. And tell me what happen at work and so on. Who touch her where, who do what with her. During dating time, she will also tell me who go ST with her, who go ON with her, and how much they give her as tips.

As for AV, i stay very near her workplace, so really not an issue. I can be there 5 mins fully dressed in party mode should there be any problem. I make it a point that she will only be working when i am near her working place.

And if she is really bidding her time with me until she get her PR, then ok loh, i treat it as helping a fellow human being get a better life. Its not like i never get anything in return.

Maybe its just me, i am a guy who can take and put down things easily.

You sure have lots of pride. You are my hero .... !! where your wife work ? I go look for her for ST then bring her to ICA to chit chat with officer. solid la... My hero ! :rolleyes:

[zion1989]

Yeap, to tell the truth, i really dont mind a single bit about her working and being touched and grope by several men. I guess its just different set of thinking.

Why should i mind when she herself don't even mind.

Maybe because i am brought up thinking that external body contact is just that, touch here a little bit got SGD50-100 take leh, as long as heart belong to me, can liao.

If i can, i also want pple touch me here and there and give me SGD50-100. I will be more than happy to do it.

At least she is honest with me. And tell me what happen at work and so on. Who touch her where, who do what with her. During dating time, she will also tell me who go ST with her, who go ON with her, and how much they give her as tips.

As for AV, i stay very near her workplace, so really not an issue. I can be there 5 mins fully dressed in party mode should there be any problem. I make it a point that she will only be working when i am near her working place.

And if she is really bidding her time with me until she get her PR, then ok loh, i treat it as helping a fellow human being get a better life. Its not like i never get anything in return.

Maybe its just me, i am a guy who can take and put down things easily.

Mean she married with u still go lam tinh with customers?\ :confused:
Bro you sure is ok with that? wait she contract any STD and pass to u leh?
Since married alr, i agree that she should seek other jobs for a living.
Even my WL (GF) also said, if she settle down with me.
She will not work as WL, i mean now i still not sure she going ST or LT with customers or not? but i believe she should respect you as a on xa and not to go hotel with any other guys

[jklpoi]

No la, no more ST or ON, only sit and chat. Matter of trust.

And my MIL is staying alone taking care of my BX 2 kids, and all her sons and daughter have their own family mah, so technically my BX is taking care of her mum cause her mum takes care of her 2 kids.

i am not going to pretend i am a expert on Vietnam but this is where she stay, maybe bros here can tell me whether the rent is worth SGD200. The district area is P6-Q4...i dont know is that the district number or house number. I just know where it is. around 10 min away from ben than market. (Mind my spelling mistake)

Correct me if i am wrong, with LTSVP, she cant work, can she?

Regarding my pay, this is where my trust for her come in. Last time, i drive big car, throw big money cause of my business, then casino come into my life and bring my downfall, lost all my asserts, went into jail for doing something illegal, on the verge of bankrupt and she still stand by me. She witness my highest point and my lowest point in life where basically i live like a dog, and she never even think of leaving me. So now i have a stable job, quit my gambling, and i still got debts to pay, thats why 4k+ is not enough for me.

[elth]

Correct me if i am wrong, with LTSVP, she cant work, can she?



call MOM to check la :D

[jklpoi]

Just to make it clear.

After marry, no more ST or ON!!!

[Golden question]

actually, after reading yur story i got question marks above my head like this: :confused:

Where yur MIL lives ha? Rent need S$200+ per mth?? That is at least 3300000VND! Maybe i snoob, i have never heard rent so high unless she stay in big houses or condos. Maybe bros can provide some info on this.

U mentioned yur MIL has many children, why her other children not contributing to the rent? If they are staying together with yur MIL, i see that they have every reasons to contribute.

Dont u have this kind of questions? :confused:

Also, why u still need to take $$ from her? U r earning 3k-4k not enough for u alone to spend?

If in HCM,$200 is not consider high for rental.My in law is staying by herself in HCM,My wife brother have his own family,salary $200++ as a driver,her younger sister factory job monthly salary only $100+.

Both can only 'eat themselve' so how to support their mom.Is common in vietnam that children cant even support themselve so dont talk about supporting their own parents and this trend is happening now in our sillypore:eek:

[elth]

Just to make it clear.

After marry, no more ST or ON!!!

actually you remind me of some Vietnamese man also allow their gfs to go out with other man...

I know a gal have been working ktv or pub in vn and sg to support her family expenses...sometime in vn the bf will ride his gf to KS and wait for her to finish her job... so caring hor :cool:

Another gal bring her vn bf to come sg for 2 weeks...pay the hotel expenses and ticket for him... the man know his gal come sg to work KTV and go KS... but his logic is simple...the money she earn is for him to go oversea study...the poor gal due to cant find customer in KTV walk to LOR** to find cust and each time get paid less than $40 only... not including cd cost...

there is no right or wrong just up to each individuals :D

[Golden question]

actually you remind me of some Vietnamese man also allow their gfs to go out with other man...

I know a gal have been working ktv or pub in vn and sg to support her family expenses...sometime in vn the bf will ride his gf to KS and wait for her to finish her job... so caring hor :cool:

Another gal bring her vn bf to come sg for 2 weeks...pay the hotel expenses and ticket for him... the man know his gal come sg to work KTV and go KS... but his logic is simple...the money she earn is for him to go oversea study...the poor gal due to cant find customer in KTV walk to LOR** to find cust and each time get paid less than $40 only... not including cd cost...

there is no right or wrong just up to each individuals :D

agreed,vietnamese man is useless,i encounter before,their society is like that.Like what u say there is no right or wrong but i will NEVER NEVER allow my love one to do that no matters how poor am i.

[vietboy]

No la, no more ST or ON, only sit and chat. Matter of trust.

And my MIL is staying alone taking care of my BX 2 kids, and all her sons and daughter have their own family mah, so technically my BX is taking care of her mum cause her mum takes care of her 2 kids.

i am not going to pretend i am a expert on Vietnam but this is where she stay, maybe bros here can tell me whether the rent is worth SGD200. The district area is P6-Q4...i dont know is that the district number or house number. I just know where it is. around 10 min away from ben than market. (Mind my spelling mistake)

Correct me if i am wrong, with LTSVP, she cant work, can she?

Regarding my pay, this is where my trust for her come in. Last time, i drive big car, throw big money cause of my business, then casino come into my life and bring my downfall, lost all my asserts, went into jail for doing something illegal, on the verge of bankrupt and she still stand by me. She witness my highest point and my lowest point in life where basically i live like a dog, and she never even think of leaving me. So now i have a stable job, quit my gambling, and i still got debts to pay, thats why 4k+ is not enough for me.

yes, for LTSVP holders are not allowed to work. But that doesnt mean she cant look for a decent job and apply for a Work Permit. She can still convert her LTSVP to WP.

Coming back to your wife working as a WL. Come on lah, u really dun mind yur wife working as a WL? Let other guys hug, kiss and TNN? Let me ask u this: if one day u meet up with some of the bros in this forum and one of them tell u: "yur wife working at XXX ktv/pub and i sat with her before" how will u feel??

u mentioned $4k+ is not enough for u and u take $$ from yur wife, but u still goes to KTV and hug other girls. Your wife is working as a WL and u still go find WL when she is working. She work as a WL to give u $$ for u to go KTV! Like bro elth said, u r behaving and thinking just like those useless vietnamese guys who live off their gfs. I think its not that u can put things down easliy, its that u simply bo chap and quite enjoy about it!. Seriously, i have no respect for people like u! PUI!!:mad:

[asdfghjkl]

NEVER allow my love one to do that no matters how poor

what if one has no money or work, and in a warzone? rather stave to death? sorry to be so direct as i have seen with my own eyes how people are forced into prostitution.. :o

[vietboy]

agreed,vietnamese man is useless,i encounter before,their society is like that.Like what u say there is no right or wrong but i will NEVER NEVER allow my love one to do that no matters how poor am i.

Same here. No matter how poor, how down, I'll never let my wife go work as a WL. I'm not saying I'm very noble, I'll rather I suffer myself than let her suffer with me. If I still let her suffer after marry me, then I'm selfish, why marry her and let her suffer because of my own actions and wrongdoings?

[Golden question]

what if one has no money or work, and in a warzone? rather stave to death? :o

no,i will kill myself,starve to death is a toture for me,got hill,i jump down from hill,got sea,i jump down.

[Golden question]

what if one has no money or work, and in a warzone? rather stave to death? sorry to be so direct as i have seen with my own eyes how people are forced into prostitution.. :o

yes,it happen around the world,but will never happen to me.NO WAY

[vietboy]

no,i will kill myself,starve to death is a toture for me,got hill,i jump down from hill,got sea,i jump down.

haha, good one bro. :D

[Golden question]

Same here. No matter how poor, how down, I'll never let my wife go work as a WL. I'm not saying I'm very noble, I'll rather I suffer myself than let her suffer with me. If I still let her suffer after marry me, then I'm selfish, why marry her and let her suffer because of my own actions and wrongdoings?

Agreed,ask me work until die i also will do,at least when i lie inside my coffin,i know i have protect her before.Ask me go beg,wash toliet,polish shoe,i will also do.

I also not say i very noble but the least thing i can do is what a husband or a man must do if force until 'no road can walk'

[asdfghjkl]

Just sharing a poem that I read in Mexico.. they had been wiped out too many times.. I fear for my life as Merkel just agreed to Ctrl-P.. :o

A prostitute in the family was better than an infant corpse
Theft was preferable to starvation
Warmth was finer than honour
Clothing more essential than democracy
Food more needed than freedom.

[vietboy]

Agreed,ask me work until die i also will do,at least when i lie inside my coffin,i know i have protect her before.Ask me go beg,wash toliet,polish shoe,i will also do.

I also not say i very noble but the least thing i can do is what a husband or a man must do if force until 'no road can walk'

yes agreed. if i let my wife suffer, i'm not fulfilling my role as a husband. like this why marry in the 1st place?

[jklpoi]

Its obvious you guys have not suffer giddy heights of wealth and then suddenly dropping into abyss of poverty. Poverty as in pocket dont even have a single cent and no one to help you and fucking slp underneath the bridge with a cardboard blanket. and no job cause cannot find one. Then you will understand. to all those bro who have really experienced real poverty, not those fake one like so many pple here in Singapore.

You will understand me. and why I have a different view of the world and love.

as long as no real sex is taking place, and no frenching, no harm in touching breast, leg and light kissing. Its good money for every touch.

And my wife is not supporting me. I am still paying for my flat, my car on top of my debts. Its the extra money that goes into our saving acct every month.

[casannova03]

No la, no more ST or ON, only sit and chat. Matter of trust.

And my MIL is staying alone taking care of my BX 2 kids, and all her sons and daughter have their own family mah, so technically my BX is taking care of her mum cause her mum takes care of her 2 kids.

i am not going to pretend i am a expert on Vietnam but this is where she stay, maybe bros here can tell me whether the rent is worth SGD200. The district area is P6-Q4...i dont know is that the district number or house number. I just know where it is. around 10 min away from ben than market. (Mind my spelling mistake)

Correct me if i am wrong, with LTSVP, she cant work, can she?

Regarding my pay, this is where my trust for her come in. Last time, i drive big car, throw big money cause of my business, then casino come into my life and bring my downfall, lost all my asserts, went into jail for doing something illegal, on the verge of bankrupt and she still stand by me. She witness my highest point and my lowest point in life where basically i live like a dog, and she never even think of leaving me. So now i have a stable job, quit my gambling, and i still got debts to pay, thats why 4k+ is not enough for me.


Like I said earlier, nobody knows what you have been through and what you and your bx have been through, thus the many views and comments.

At the end of he day, just know what you are doing and what you are getting yourself into...that's most important!;)

If she is holding on to a LTSVP, even without the latest LTSVP(+), she is allowed to be employed by a Singapore registered company who is willing to apply for a work permit for her.

Once the work permit is approved, she will be here on a work permit under the company and the LTSVP will be cancelled. Typically a LTSVP holder will be given a 2 year work permit.

As to whether the LTSVP can be reapplied if she lose her job or whether it is hard to get it again, I am not sure.

Hope this helps u!;)

[Hurricane88]

Its obvious you guys have not suffer giddy heights of wealth and then suddenly dropping into abyss of poverty. Poverty as in pocket dont even have a single cent and no one to help you and fucking slp underneath the bridge with a cardboard blanket. and no job cause cannot find one. Then you will understand. to all those bro who have really experienced real poverty, not those fake one like so many pple here in Singapore.

You will understand me. and why I have a different view of the world and love.

as long as no real sex is taking place, and no frenching, no harm in touching breast, leg and light kissing. Its good money for every touch.

And my wife is not supporting me. I am still paying for my flat, my car on top of my debts. Its the extra money that goes into our saving acct every month.

i fully understand the feeling of having no money at all...nobody to help...and no one to turn to...anyway asked yourself who did all those things to you when you had money and throwing them away...did the casino came with a gun to force you to gambled away your money...answer is simple "NO"...you self inflicted and cried wolf...:confused:

you think your baxa now dun know what you are doing...what did you treat her as...just a money spinning machine...did she owe you anything...to think that you dun mind her working and sleeping around if any client will to make and indecent proposal...anyway I believe in karma...someday only time will tell...I despise ppl who treat baxa as a means for money...:)

anyway the above is my opinion...:)

[casannova03]

Same here. No matter how poor, how down, I'll never let my wife go work as a WL. I'm not saying I'm very noble, I'll rather I suffer myself than let her suffer with me. If I still let her suffer after marry me, then I'm selfish, why marry her and let her suffer because of my own actions and wrongdoings?

no,i will kill myself,starve to death is a toture for me,got hill,i jump down from hill,got sea,i jump down.

yes agreed. if i let my wife suffer, i'm not fulfilling my role as a husband. like this why marry in the 1st place?

Its obvious you guys have not suffer giddy heights of wealth and then suddenly dropping into abyss of poverty. Poverty as in pocket dont even have a single cent and no one to help you and fucking slp underneath the bridge with a cardboard blanket. and no job cause cannot find one. Then you will understand. to all those bro who have really experienced real poverty, not those fake one like so many pple here in Singapore.

You will understand me. and why I have a different view of the world and love.

as long as no real sex is taking place, and no frenching, no harm in touching breast, leg and light kissing. Its good money for every touch.

And my wife is not supporting me. I am still paying for my flat, my car on top of my debts. Its the extra money that goes into our saving acct every month.

Bros, chill it!!;)

Nobody is right or wrong here...

I kinda understand where jklpoi is coming from...maybe like they wanna settle their debts asap and then settle down properly after all these problems are finished. Well, that's their choice....

Thinking back when I was still in NS, I was indeed broke and living off the $$ from my then Gf now my wife. Bros who know my story should remember this... As much as I do not want to allow my then GF to work, I do not have a choice as I was a NSF and do not have the money to meet my wife's objective which was to build a house that cost around $30K. Like bro vietboy and golden question, my pride and ego kept bothering me so I took up tuition teaching and then finally met someone who was willing to lend me the money and eventually my wife stopped work and we got married......

we do not know jklpoi's situation and thus he may have his reasons for doing so. Perhaps the only niggling issue is that he knowingly allows this to happen and that he is earning quite a tidy amount of money every month and it seems to baffle us...nevertheless, we do not know the amount of debt he has and how "deep" he really is...so let's give him some breathing space yeah? at the end of the day, he might be telling us this because he wanna see how we can help him no?

I am no angel definitely but I believe that behind everyone, there is a story which we do not know so we should give everyone some benefit of the doubt before we judge him/her.;)

Here's a story I saw today on Facebook which happens to apply here:D:

A 24 year old boy seeing out from the train's window shouted...

"Dad, look! the trees are going behind!" Dad smiled. A young couple sitting nearby looked at the 24 years old's childish behaviour with pity. Suddenly the boy again exclaimed "Dad,look! The clouds are running with us!"

At this point the young couple could not resist and said to the old man.." Why dun you take your son to a good doctor? " (thinking that the boy needs special treatment for being so childish at his age, maybe due to some growth problems or mental problems???)

The old man smiled and said..." I did, and we just came from the hospital... my son was blind from birth and he just got his eyes and his sight today...."

Moral of the story? :

Everyone on this planet has a story
Let's not judge people before we truly know them. The truth might sometimes surprise us!


Again I emphasize that I am no preacher or angel but sometimes I like to give people a bit more time and space before I decide on him/her.

Nevertheless, JKLPOI! You have to know what the both of you are working towards. there needs to be an objective, an end in mind. If there isn't, then it seems that you are not very concerned about your wife which is what your limited number of posts have reflected so far, thus the disappointment from other bros here.

If you have a game plan already, then what we say here does not really matter.... will be interested to hear your side of the story though...maybe you can start a thread to tell us all about it???;)

[zion1989]

No la, no more ST or ON, only sit and chat. Matter of trust.

And my MIL is staying alone taking care of my BX 2 kids, and all her sons and daughter have their own family mah, so technically my BX is taking care of her mum cause her mum takes care of her 2 kids.

i am not going to pretend i am a expert on Vietnam but this is where she stay, maybe bros here can tell me whether the rent is worth SGD200. The district area is P6-Q4...i dont know is that the district number or house number. I just know where it is. around 10 min away from ben than market. (Mind my spelling mistake)

Correct me if i am wrong, with LTSVP, she cant work, can she?

Regarding my pay, this is where my trust for her come in. Last time, i drive big car, throw big money cause of my business, then casino come into my life and bring my downfall, lost all my asserts, went into jail for doing something illegal, on the verge of bankrupt and she still stand by me. She witness my highest point and my lowest point in life where basically i live like a dog, and she never even think of leaving me. So now i have a stable job, quit my gambling, and i still got debts to pay, thats why 4k+ is not enough for me.

U mean the kids your BX has is from previous marriage ? What you BX really live a complicated life:confused: . I agree with some of the bros here, never depend on your wife for a living. You are a man, if my viet girl willing to stop working as a WL. I don't mind every month send money back to her, sometime we still have to fulfill the responsibility as a man ;)

[KangTuo]

Last time, i drive big car, throw big money cause of my business, then casino come into my life and bring my downfall, lost all my asserts, went into jail for doing something illegal, on the verge of bankrupt and she still stand by me. She witness my highest point and my lowest point in life where basically i live like a dog, and she never even think of leaving me. So now i have a stable job, quit my gambling, and i still got debts to pay, thats why 4k+ is not enough for me.

i have seen and heard many before that a WL willing to standby a guy even when he fall hard... :)

is good that you trust your bx... and she trust you...


Same here. No matter how poor, how down, I'll never let my wife go work as a WL. I'm not saying I'm very noble, I'll rather I suffer myself than let her suffer with me. If I still let her suffer after marry me, then I'm selfish, why marry her and let her suffer because of my own actions and wrongdoings?

I can see that you don't understand how WL think... :D

[jackbl]

I can see that you don't understand how WL think... :D

Shd be he dun understand how vietnamese think :D

[KangTuo]

Bros, chill it!!;)

Nobody is right or wrong here...

true true... everyone experience is different so everyone have a different perspective.

just like me and H88..
he don't trust WL while i trust some WL... :D
but we still love vb and "You'll never walk alone" :D

[KangTuo]

Shd be he dun understand how vietnamese think :D

yah yah.... you are correct.

[asdfghjkl]

I must praise the members here who are mature enough to talk openly about these few issues.. thumbs up! motivated me to surf this forum more! ;)

[KangTuo]

There are other ways and other jobs she can go try to meet the $1000 -$1500 per month.

where can find job for uneducated and unskilled vb which can get up to $1500 per month?
the most i know is $800 in service line like beer lady and in pub.

Rent need S$200+ per mth?? That is at least 3300000VND! Maybe i snoob, i have never heard rent so high unless she stay in big houses or condos. Maybe bros can provide some info on this.

its around that value in HCMC....
6 years back i pay rent monthly for my bx is around $120 (include electricity and water) then raise to $150 then raise again but i still pay $150 bsause my bx starts to gather more sisters into the house to share rental. :)

[casannova03]

agreed,vietnamese man is useless,i encounter before,their society is like that.Like what u say there is no right or wrong but i will NEVER NEVER allow my love one to do that no matters how poor am i.

I disagree, there are many vn guys who indeed live off their female counterparts but to say all are useless is a dangerous sweeping statement altogether bro...;)

I have vn guy friends and customers who are capable, well to do and are very much the MAN that we would like ourself to be and would never let their female partners suffer.

just to add: they are also very tiko...just like us...:D:D

[naemlo]

I disagree, there are many vn guys who indeed live off their female counterparts but to say all are useless is a dangerous sweeping statement altogether bro...;)

Ya agree, useless men form part of Vietnamese. Every countries have useless men including the all mighty SG.

[Hurricane88]

true true... everyone experience is different so everyone have a different perspective.

just like me and H88..
he don't trust WL while i trust some WL... :D
but we still love vb and "You'll never walk alone" :D

haha...to each his own...anyway many dun trust WL here...u only trust some...ask bro Adguy, do you trust WL??????????

yes yes...only love VB no others...one of the best in the world...:)

[jklpoi]

I dont trust WL at first, even when i meet my BX, until i witness how she stand by me in my very hard times.

I admit i am no angel, and i did fool around, even have a thailand fling for a short while, no cash transaction. Weakness of the flesh, i admit.


Shd be he dun understand how vietnamese think

Hmmm, my bx dont feel that she is suffering. I told her once that i am sorry because i no good, have to make her work and no let her rest. She bloody get angry with me for the whole day. Next day not so angry but no sex for 4 days:eek:

[Golden question]

Its obvious you guys have not suffer giddy heights of wealth and then suddenly dropping into abyss of poverty. Poverty as in pocket dont even have a single cent and no one to help you and fucking slp underneath the bridge with a cardboard blanket. and no job cause cannot find one. Then you will understand. to all those bro who have really experienced real poverty, not those fake one like so many pple here in Singapore.

You will understand me. and why I have a different view of the world and love.

as long as no real sex is taking place, and no frenching, no harm in touching breast, leg and light kissing. Its good money for every touch.

And my wife is not supporting me. I am still paying for my flat, my car on top of my debts. Its the extra money that goes into our saving acct every month.

bro,my view is will not let my wife do it no matter what but that does not mean i disagreed with what u do.Every ppl handle this kind of situation differently with different view,nobody can say whether the things u are doing is right or wrong.Only u have the say.

As long as u dont 'makan' your wife money,i salute u for letting her do.At least she is better than those who rob,steal or cheat ppl money.

[zion1989]

Each WL has their own story and reason to work as WL. I got a friend also make one of the WL his wife. That guy fucking uselss too, having problem with the law. Waiting to be charge, the WL just gave birth to a daughter for him. He only send $500 SGD back. Still can go JC while waiting for his trials :mad:

[Golden question]

I disagree, there are many vn guys who indeed live off their female counterparts but to say all are useless is a dangerous sweeping statement altogether bro...;)

I have vn guy friends and customers who are capable, well to do and are very much the MAN that we would like ourself to be and would never let their female partners suffer.

just to add: they are also very tiko...just like us...:D:D

I did not want to mean all but i mean most.

[Golden question]

I dont trust WL at first, even when i meet my BX, until i witness how she stand by me in my very hard times.

I admit i am no angel, and i did fool around, even have a thailand fling for a short while, no cash transaction. Weakness of the flesh, i admit.




Hmmm, my bx dont feel that she is suffering. I told her once that i am sorry because i no good, have to make her work and no let her rest. She bloody get angry with me for the whole day. Next day not so angry but no sex for 4 days:eek:

To her,u are helping her and marry her so that she can work here to support her kids back in vietnam.So she stand by u.
To u is she stand by u when u are really down and into poverty stage,thats why u love her and let her go work

Am i right to say so?

So like what bro cassonava say,what is your plan for the future with her,are u just sharing with us your experience on what u have now or are u seeking some answer?

[casannova03]

Ya agree, useless men form part of Vietnamese. Every countries have useless men including the all mighty SG.

Now suddenly u pop up and scare me:eek::eek:

[jklpoi]

To her,u are helping her and marry her so that she can work here to support her kids back in vietnam.So she stand by u.
To u is she stand by u when u are really down and into poverty stage,thats why u love her and let her go work

Am i right to say so?

So like what bro cassonava say,what is your plan for the future with her,are u just sharing with us your experience on what u have now or are u seeking some answer?

Hmmm, a little wrong.

To her, She want to work because she want to help me financial wise.
To u is she stand by u when u are really down and into poverty stage,thats why u love her. <Deleted>

Changes are in red.

Just sharing my thoughts

[KangTuo]

Same here. No matter how poor, how down, I'll never let my wife go work as a WL. I'm not saying I'm very noble, I'll rather I suffer myself than let her suffer with me.

Agreed,ask me work until die i also will do,at least when i lie inside my coffin,i know i have protect her before.Ask me go beg,wash toliet,polish shoe,i will also do.

i will never let my bx work as WL also.... not because i don't want her to suffer (to vb, working as WL is just another job.. not suffering at all)

truthfully its all about face value... :)

just like what my bx told me last time... i go out play as long as not caught and seen or play with her friends its ok liao. its her face value.. :)

[jklpoi]

Plan wise.

My debts will soon be clear, 2 years time.
Now arranging for her 2 kids to come to sillypore to study. Sourcing for help in this matter. Checked through MoE, need get a school to accept them and do a test to access their standard before putting them in an appropriate level. I can be their guardian and sponser as i am considered their Step-Father now.

After debt clear, or maybe after next march, she will stop working and become a full time housewife, doing some sales to other WL while i will source for another house near JC so that i can rent room to VB to supplement my income. (Now living in parents' flat but i am paying for it. Personal Family stuff, wont share it here.)
Its incredible the amount of rent they pay for a room near to their work place. She will take care of the up up and down down of the house and her 2 kids, while i will work and earn the bread.

Planning to have a baby when everything is more or less settled down.

After everything clear and settled, work work and work even more, save more money and move to vietnam and leave kids here to work and live here, (Depends on them and how high they study.) Meanwhile i will be living a self-sufficient life in vietnam, not asking for the sky but just able to live comfortably. (That is when i decide to retire.)

That in a nutshell is my plan for our future if nothing cocks up

[Hurricane88]

Plan wise.

My debts will soon be clear, 2 years time.
Now arranging for her 2 kids to come to sillypore to study. Sourcing for help in this matter. Checked through MoE, need get a school to accept them and do a test to access their standard before putting them in an appropriate level. I can be their guardian and sponser as i am considered their Step-Father now.

After debt clear, or maybe after next march, she will stop working and become a full time housewife, doing some sales to other WL while i will source for another house near JC so that i can rent room to VB to supplement my income. (Now living in parents' flat but i am paying for it. Personal Family stuff, wont share it here.)
Its incredible the amount of rent they pay for a room near to their work place. She will take care of the up up and down down of the house and her 2 kids, while i will work and earn the bread.

Planning to have a baby when everything is more or less settled down.

After everything clear and settled, work work and work even more, save more money and move to vietnam and leave kids here to work and live here, (Depends on them and how high they study.) Meanwhile i will be living a self-sufficient life in vietnam, not asking for the sky but just able to live comfortably. (That is when i decide to retire.)


your plan sounds right but you are missing many things...we dun know how old you are now...your bx will be 50ys old when you are 43...hopefully you still find her appealing both sexually and lovingly...dun think she will want to retire in vietnam with you...:)

[jklpoi]

I am 27yrs old now, and my BX 33 yrs old. Mention before, she is not a looker, very small size with A cup breast, and comes with 2 kids. So i am thinking that i love her for what she is, not because of looks.

This plan is she give me one. Because she thinks singapore very very expensive.
She once told me, if can stay Vietnam but take singapore money, very good.

So any1 got any lobang to become a expat in vietnam?

[naemlo]

Now suddenly u pop up and scare me:eek::eek:

Cannot always lugi... once in awhile must pop to scare u.

[jackbl]

he don't trust WL while i trust some WL...


Of course, dun trust ALL WL, trust those who u think are trustworthy....

Love VB, of course not ALL, only those that are worthy of your Love...

Why come out with those "dangerous sweeping statement "??? When those VB said Singapore men XNN, what do you think? 看看别人，想想自己。

[jackbl]

I did not want to mean all but i mean most.

More than 20million man are like that??? How u know? U know them all???

[SingViet]

I am 27yrs old now, and my BX 33 yrs old. Mention before, she is not a looker, very small size with A cup breast, and comes with 2 kids. So i am thinking that i love her for what she is, not because of looks.

This plan is she give me one. Because she thinks singapore very very expensive.
She once told me, if can stay Vietnam but take singapore money, very good.

So any1 got any lobang to become a expat in vietnam?

haiz..................another dreamer.

[SingViet]

I am 27yrs old now, and my BX 33 yrs old. Mention before, she is not a looker, very small size with A cup breast, and comes with 2 kids. So i am thinking that i love her for what she is, not because of looks.

This plan is she give me one. Because she thinks singapore very very expensive.
She once told me, if can stay Vietnam but take singapore money, very good.

So any1 got any lobang to become a expat in vietnam?

Before trying to be an expat, ask yourself these questions:

(1) what's your education level?
(2) What's your working experience and expertise? Companies do not employ you and send you over as EXPAT just because you have a viet wife.
(3) If you cannot feed your wife here already, what makes you think life in VN will be better?

Normal expats in VN are not paid much, unless you are posted there as some director of public listed companies. Stop dreaming, pull up your pants and BE A MAN. Stop sending your wife out there to earn a living as WL. Tell your wife the truth, she can forget about PR as how will the government grant PR to her when you cannot even feed yourself?

Sorry to be blunt but i seriously look down on man like you who marry and cannot feed your wife. Worse still, still let your wife work as WL to support herself. You are only 27 years old, what big car and big money can you earn last time? Stop boasting here and BE A MAN.

[jklpoi]

Before trying to be an expat, ask yourself these questions:

(1) what's your education level?
(2) What's your working experience and expertise? Companies do not employ you and send you over as EXPAT just because you have a viet wife.
(3) If you cannot feed your wife here already, what makes you think life in VN will be better?

Normal expats in VN are not paid much, unless you are posted there as some director of public listed companies. Stop dreaming, pull up your pants and BE A MAN. Stop sending your wife out there to earn a living as WL. Tell your wife the truth, she can forget about PR as how will the government grant PR to her when you cannot even feed yourself?

Sorry to be blunt but i seriously look down on man like you who marry and cannot feed your wife. Worse still, still let your wife work as WL to support herself. You are only 27 years old, what big car and big money can you earn last time? Stop boasting here and BE A MAN.

Never mind, its been so common that i dont get believe when i speak about my past. Its always about my age.Older Singaporeans with their fixed and brainwashed mindset always think that young adults cant succeed when they are young. Nowadays, there are so many 20-29 yrs old millionaire out there. What makes you think that i cant be one of them?

And about the expat thingy, that's a joke, a scarsm if you don't get it. I will go vietnam work as an expat if i got the chance, but i do not purposely go search for that chance. My plan, if you read carefully, is to work in singapore until i choose to retire and go over to vietnam to retire.

I already told her that its very hard to get PR in singapore nowadays and she knows it. Since i know her, i have never harbor any thoughts of her becoming a PR. Because i am a Ex-convict, i was nearly bankrupt, and i have a poor credit rating. She understand me and she just want to stay near me, never mind PR or no PR, as long as it's near me.

And about supporting her when i cant even feed myself. Yes, i cant feed my self now, but who is to say after 1 or 2 years, i cant get back what i lost? I am still young, i have the energy to chiong back everything i once lost. And not to boost, but to make a point, i am earning 4k+ per month, how many 27yrs old you know is making 4k+ per month now.

I hate it when people look down on me. I had it enough with people looking down on me. Think about what you are writing before you post, Please.

[SingViet]

Never mind, its been so common that i dont get believe when i speak about my past. Its always about my age.Older Singaporeans with their fixed and brainwashed mindset always think that young adults cant succeed when they are young. Nowadays, there are so many 20-29 yrs old millionaire out there. What makes you think that i cant be one of them?

And about the expat thingy, that's a joke, a scarsm if you don't get it. I will go vietnam work as an expat if i got the chance, but i do not purposely go search for that chance. My plan, if you read carefully, is to work in singapore until i choose to retire and go over to vietnam to retire.

I already told her that its very hard to get PR in singapore nowadays and she knows it. Since i know her, i have never harbor any thoughts of her becoming a PR. Because i am a Ex-convict, i was nearly bankrupt, and i have a poor credit rating. She understand me and she just want to stay near me, never mind PR or no PR, as long as it's near me.

And about supporting her when i cant even feed myself. Yes, i cant feed my self now, but who is to say after 1 or 2 years, i cant get back what i lost? I am still young, i have the energy to chiong back everything i once lost. And not to boost, but to make a point, i am earning 4k+ per month, how many 27yrs old you know is making 4k+ per month now.

I hate it when people look down on me. I had it enough with people looking down on me. Think about what you are writing before you post, Please.

there's nothing to be proud of if you earn big bucks doing illegal things. I think about what I am writing . make 4k plus a month is a lot ? no one will look down on you if you don't send your wife out as WL. How will you view a man who sends his wife out as WL ? if you feel that's something to be proud of, it's your call.

[casannova03]

Never mind, its been so common that i dont get believe when i speak about my past. ....

Its always about my age.I hate it when people look down on me. I had it enough with people looking down on me. Think about what you are writing before you post, Please.

Yo jklpoi, bro singviet is known for his straight talking no-nonsense style of addressing issues but I am sure he doesn't mean it the bad way...so relax;)

Basically most of us here are concerned and alarmed that you actually allow your wife to continue working ....that's about it!

Ever heard the phrase " you can marry a WL to become ur wife but not a wife to become a WL" ?

Granted, We do not know your history and your situation but I am sure most of us cannot accept that you still allow your wife to work now. Simply because there are too many implications in letting her do so. If she gets caught, there are so many negative implications that wll affect both you and her.

We would have maybe worked harder maybe like taking on two jobs so that wifey can stay at home. If $4k is not enough for now, take on another..even if you go become a security guard at night, it'll get you about 1.5k monthly. gross....see?

We mean well but are tough talking lots here...not to say we are experts or what not but simply because we wanna make you see the picture cos we've been through tough times initially as well and would like to share it with you that there might be other ways to handle the situation.;)

[jklpoi]

Uhmmm...who say i earn big bucks doing illegal stuff?
I only do illegal stuff after i lost everything.
If thats the misunderstanding, sorry i didnt make it clear.

Well, to me, 4k plus is not a lot when compared to my peers, they are earning upwards to 5 digit a month. minority of them. Majority of them is earning close to 6k-8k per month. No illegal stuff mind you. Dont stay so deep in your little Vietnamese world, come out and take a look at the Singaporean world. It is now possible for adults below the age of 30 to earn so much without resorting to illegal stuff.

But compared it to the majority of young people out there, by young i mean below 30, 4k+ per month is what most of them can only dream of. Not all, but most of them.

For any man that has wife that do WL job, first i will understand what kind of WL job is she doing. SEX, a definite look down upon. If normal sitting, grouping, light kissing, i will first understand what makes her go out as a WL. If the reason is good enough, then so be it. I will still respect her.

SingViet, you seems to be so well versed in Vietnam that you forget your own Singaporean roots. Wake up, spell the air, times are changing. Even the mighty and oh so noble singaporean girls are working in KTV now, offering no sex but light kissing, groping and talking, cause it's freaking good money.

[SingViet]

Uhmmm...who say i earn big bucks doing illegal stuff?
I only do illegal stuff after i lost everything.
If thats the misunderstanding, sorry i didnt make it clear.

Well, to me, 4k plus is not a lot when compared to my peers, they are earning upwards to 5 digit a month. minority of them. Majority of them is earning close to 6k-8k per month. No illegal stuff mind you. Dont stay so deep in your little Vietnamese world, come out and take a look at the Singaporean world. It is now possible for adults below the age of 30 to earn so much without resorting to illegal stuff.

But compared it to the majority of young people out there, by young i mean below 30, 4k+ per month is what most of them can only dream of. Not all, but most of them.

For any man that has wife that do WL job, first i will understand what kind of WL job is she doing. SEX, a definite look down upon. If normal sitting, grouping, light kissing, i will first understand what makes her go out as a WL. If the reason is good enough, then so be it. I will still respect her.

SingViet, you seems to be so well versed in Vietnam that you forget your own Singaporean roots. Wake up, spell the air, times are changing. Even the mighty and oh so noble singaporean girls are working in KTV now, offering no sex but light kissing, groping and talking, cause it's freaking good money.

What makes you think i have forgotten about my own singaporean roots when i stay here, run business here, have kids studying here ? Yes , times are changing, more and more young people are only thinking about money, without morals. We live in 2 different worlds, i wish you good luck. ;)

[Hurricane88]

And about supporting her when i cant even feed myself. Yes, i cant feed my self now, but who is to say after 1 or 2 years, i cant get back what i lost? I am still young, i have the energy to chiong back everything i once lost. And not to boost, but to make a point, i am earning 4k+ per month, how many 27yrs old you know is making 4k+ per month now.

I hate it when people look down on me. I had it enough with people looking down on me. Think about what you are writing before you post, Please.

SingViet is TS here...he can say what he wants here...so if u can say anything definitely he can...if you dun like you can always dun read or dun bother to post here...you should be the one to think twice before you post...:confused:

you came here to share yoru experience and seek advice...but you cannot tolerate comments and feedback...you should keep to your own world so that you dun come here and tell us...what do you expect...sympathy or help from any of us...when moral and integrity is questionable...in our own little world here...having backbone as a man is considered most important...you being so young committed so much errors and still think like a millionaire...wake up and face it like a man...do you know that the world dun owe you a living...go ahead and bragged about your own little success...but to me you are a loser...a BIG LOSER who came here to tell us how well you had done and how proud of you to have a WL baxa...well you can continue to keep them to yourself...nobody here will care for you...:mad:

btw, we met and knew most of the bros here...I had known bro SingViet for at least 5 yrs...I knew him as a person with lots of integrity and honest...unlike we only read about you...so dun come here and get angry with our comments if you cannot tahan...:mad:

[Hurricane88]

For any man that has wife that do WL job, first i will understand what kind of WL job is she doing. SEX, a definite look down upon. If normal sitting, grouping, light kissing, i will first understand what makes her go out as a WL. If the reason is good enough, then so be it. I will still respect her.

SingViet, you seems to be so well versed in Vietnam that you forget your own Singaporean roots. Wake up, spell the air, times are changing. Even the mighty and oh so noble singaporean girls are working in KTV now, offering no sex but light kissing, groping and talking, cause it's freaking good money.

you can say all you want about your WL baxa...if you are rich now dun think you will ever say like this wanting to marry a WL as baxa...come on face up and be honest...if you are not in debt and your baxa is willing ro share your burden...do you think you will marry a whore...you can keep to your morals if you think otherwise becus none of us here keen to listen...:mad:

haha...you dun even know any of us...we knew each other long...we have family values...unlike you who are morally unright...anyway we hope that what you said about singaporean girls working in ktv...not trying to curse you but imagined they are your sisters or daughters...if you can think like this in your little world then pls keep to it your yourself...:confused::mad:

[cryinfree]

remind me of an old saying..

I can marry a prosititue but i cant let my wife prositituting..

Wa Eh Sai Chua Kwee Zuo Bor Bui Sai Hor Wa Eh Bor Zou Kwee..(in hokkien..)

Point to ponder..
So wat u r earning 4k+ now but still she is out there as WL..
to me this is the lowest blow of a man can accept..
May b u r too forgiving bah..or may b big hearted.. day y u so readily accepting it, as if it like a man pride that his wife is out there prostituting for him...

My 2cent worth..stop before the love burnt out...if u reali love her...

cheers
cryinfree

[cryinfree]

remind me of an old saying..

I can marry a prosititue but i cant let my wife prositituting..

Wa Eh Sai Chua Kwee Zuo Bor Bui Sai Hor Wa Eh Bor Zou Kwee..(in hokkien..)


cheers
cryinfree


Kwee should Be KwAY (CHICKEN in hokkien) instead..

My Bad...

[naemlo]

.if you can think like this in your little world then pls keep to it your yourself...:confused::mad:

Wow u got so angry with a young boy who has a dream. Young boy's dream is always beautiful and most dreams are, "getting filthy rich, have a prefect wife and live happily ever after." But when back to reality, it is always sad and messy life. :D Having wife as a WL and he is proud of it, then as a stranger like us, why bother? His dream is his, so just let him be.

Anyway, he is behind the computer so he can be proud of his WL wife and what is wrong been touched by others. He is behind the computer, so it is ok not to have a strong backbone. I wonder what he told his parents, close friends and relatives about his wife? Facing reality is always different from writing in a forum. :D

[Hurricane88]

Wow u got so angry with a young boy who has a dream. Young boy's dream is always beautiful and most dreams are, "getting filthy rich, have a prefect wife and live happily ever after." But when back to reality, it is always sad and messy life. :D Having wife as a WL and he is proud of it, then as a stranger like us, why bother? His dream is his, so just let him be.

Anyway, he is behind the computer so he can be proud of his WL wife and what is wrong been touched by others. He is behind the computer, so it is ok not to have a strong backbone. I wonder what he told his parents, close friends and relatives about his wife?

Thanks bro...I needed that support...just cannot tahan young man coming here to comment without making sense...he thought we all dun know each other...we are a group of morally upright bros who knew each other pretty well...:)

[naemlo]

Thanks bro...I needed that support...just cannot tahan young man coming here to comment without making sense...he thought we all dun know each other...we are a group of morally upright bros who knew each other pretty well...:)

In forum, thousands type of ppl.... someone who dun mind or dun feel any wrong with wife working as WL, what better characters or moral has he? So dun bother too much with him and his life.

It is confusing, why will a boy got married when he himself cannot feed himself??

[SingViet]

SingViet is TS here...he can say what he wants here...so if u can say anything definitely he can...if you dun like you can always dun read or dun bother to post here...you should be the one to think twice before you post...:confused:

you came here to share yoru experience and seek advice...but you cannot tolerate comments and feedback...you should keep to your own world so that you dun come here and tell us...what do you expect...sympathy or help from any of us...when moral and integrity is questionable...in our own little world here...having backbone as a man is considered most important...you being so young committed so much errors and still think like a millionaire...wake up and face it like a man...do you know that the world dun owe you a living...go ahead and bragged about your own little success...but to me you are a loser...a BIG LOSER who came here to tell us how well you had done and how proud of you to have a WL baxa...well you can continue to keep them to yourself...nobody here will care for you...:mad:

btw, we met and knew most of the bros here...I had known bro SingViet for at least 5 yrs...I knew him as a person with lots of integrity and honest...unlike we only read about you...so dun come here and get angry with our comments if you cannot tahan...:mad:

Thanks for the support Bro. I think youngsters nowadays sure have a different mindset. ;)

[asdfghjkl]

Every countries have useless men including the all mighty SG.

yeah i met quite a number in SG too.. i dun mean those blue collar, i meant those who refused to work and stay at home to play online games.. :o

[Hurricane88]

In forum, thousands type of ppl.... someone who dun mind or dun feel any wrong with wife working as WL, what better characters or moral has he? So dun bother too much with him and his life.

It is confusing, why will a boy got married when he himself cannot feed himself??

actually I dun bother or want to care...anyway not up to us how he wanted his life....but when he came here to say unwarranted statements then we must shoot him down...he must be taught what are the rules of this thread...dun want a newbie coming here making unfounded remarks about seniors and then thinking of getting scot-free...:)

[Hurricane88]

Thanks for the support Bro. I think youngsters nowadays sure have a different mindset. ;)

you are most welcome...we helped each other ma...we cannot care or bother how youngsters wanted their life to be...to each his own...just making sure no unfounded remarks are arrowed to seniors who we knew each other...we are real human being not afraid to face reality...unlike others hiding behind cyberspace...:)

[marcopit]

Hi All Samster,

im totally lost, maybe i kanna KT oready. I wanna purpose to my gf next month when i go HCM, i just know her for abt 3mths, she work in KTV in sg abt 4mths, 3rd time here in sg.

The last time she is here she stay with me & family, i understand that she required to earn money and entertain customers. I only earning abt $2-$2.5K/mth but with bank bad debt abt $150K.

She knows abt my financial difficulty, but she willing to accept me as who am i. Honestly speaking i don wanna her to continue working in KTV, but i feel sad as i cant support her family needs, she told me abt SGD1500 required.

Im very snook by her family requirement which abt 3/4 of my salary. 1 thing i wanna all bros here to advise/feedback if u think she truthful in our relation & if i should continue with this relation.

1) she will tell me that she going out with customers but never tell her customers that she got a bf.


2) she told me she go to hotel with customers only when she 1st time here for 2mths but not now.

3) she never request any money from me since the 1st time we met till now.

Please all, im about of my mind now, all advise/feedback/comments are most welcome. I need enlightenment :confused:

[Seletar]

Hi All Samster,

im totally lost, maybe i kanna KT oready. I wanna purpose to my gf next month when i go HCM, i just know her for abt 3mths, she work in KTV in sg abt 4mths, 3rd time here in sg.

The last time she is here she stay with me & family, i understand that she required to earn money and entertain customers. I only earning abt $2-$2.5K/mth but with bank bad debt abt $150K.

She knows abt my financial difficulty, but she willing to accept me as who am i. Honestly speaking i don wanna her to continue working in KTV, but i feel sad as i cant support her family needs, she told me abt SGD1500 required.

Im very snook by her family requirement which abt 3/4 of my salary. 1 thing i wanna all bros here to advise/feedback if u think she truthful in our relation & if i should continue with this relation.

1) she will tell me that she going out with customers but never tell her customers that she got a bf.


2) she told me she go to hotel with customers only when she 1st time here for 2mths but not now.

3) she never request any money from me since the 1st time we met till now.

Please all, im about of my mind now, all advise/feedback/comments are most welcome. I need enlightenment :confused:

Her family needs SGD $1500 per month ? or one payment ?

[Hurricane88]

im totally lost, maybe i kanna KT oready. I wanna purpose to my gf next month when i go HCM, i just know her for abt 3mths, she work in KTV in sg abt 4mths, 3rd time here in sg.

The last time she is here she stay with me & family, i understand that she required to earn money and entertain customers. I only earning abt $2-$2.5K/mth but with bank bad debt abt $150K.

She knows abt my financial difficulty, but she willing to accept me as who am i. Honestly speaking i don wanna her to continue working in KTV, but i feel sad as i cant support her family needs, she told me abt SGD1500 required.

Im very snook by her family requirement which abt 3/4 of my salary. 1 thing i wanna all bros here to advise/feedback if u think she truthful in our relation & if i should continue with this relation.

1) she will tell me that she going out with customers but never tell her customers that she got a bf.


2) she told me she go to hotel with customers only when she 1st time here for 2mths but not now.

3) she never request any money from me since the 1st time we met till now.

Please all, im about of my mind now, all advise/feedback/comments are most welcome. I need enlightenment :confused:

tell us more pls...

1) what do you hope to get out of this relationship?
2) will you be marrying her?
3) why is she staying with your family and how you explain to family about your relationship?
4) how the family felt when she comes back late every nite after her work? how you explain what she works as?
5) have you been to Vietnam and visit her family?
6) do you know of the viet culture?

[AdGuy]

This thread make me very nhuc dau.

First need to understand vietnamese life partner.

Now need to understand singapore guys too? :eek:

Back to my beer :rolleyes:

[KangTuo]

Hi All Samster,

im totally lost, maybe i kanna KT oready.

KT???? :eek::confused:

[marcopit]

Bro Seletar: her family expect SDG1500/mth!!!

Bro Hurricane:

1 & 2) i wish we can get married
3 & 4) i try to know her more & i make known to my parents she working in KTV. My parents worry of her safety.
5 & 6) i never been to vietnam & donno much except from internet

[KangTuo]

This thread make me very nhuc dau.

First need to understand vietnamese life partner.

Now need to understand singapore guys too? :eek:

Back to my beer :rolleyes:

beer make you more nhuc dau..
go HMB find nurse :D

[AdGuy]

KT???? :eek::confused:

Means he kena your disease liao.

Must bonk once in the morning and once in the evening. :D

beer make you more nhuc dau..
go HMB find nurse :D

My HMB nurse is back.

If she sees me there, she cures my nhuc dau by making me cu dau.

[marcopit]

beer make you more nhuc dau..
go HMB find nurse :D

Dear Bro,

please enlighten me:

HMB = ?

nhuc dau = ?

cu dau = ?

i cant speak viet or understand too :'(, we (me & gf) communicate in Mandarin only

[KangTuo]

Means he kena your disease liao.

Must bonk once in the morning and once in the evening. :D



My HMB nurse is back.

If she sees me there, she cures my nhuc dau by making me cu dau.

how you know i go HMB in morning and evening? :p
evening i dropped by but the usual vb i ON is working then my friend hurry me to start mahjong... just now after mahjong wanna go but bx activate me back...

now i nhuc dau :p

[AdGuy]

See comments below

Dear Bro,

please enlighten me:

HMB = ? 2 very special numbers for all the lonely moments

nhuc dau = ? big head pain

cu dau = ? small head pain

i cant speak viet or understand too :'(, we (me & gf) communicate in Mandarin only You should indulge in some good viet songs. see my link for more info :D

[marcopit]

See comments below

Thanks AdGuy, will try my best to learn

[AdGuy]

Thanks AdGuy, will try my best to learn

Welcome to the club!

http://sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?p=7406834#post7406834

[naemlo]

actually I dun bother or want to care...

Ok... relax. No point reasoning with someone who thinks he is right, others wrong. He is here to share his happiness and hopefully someone will support him.

Hell, how will a boy takes pride when wife is working in KTV/pubs.... how will boy got married when he can't feed himself. A weird person with weird thinking with messy life.... :eek:


Hi All Samster,

im totally lost, maybe i kanna KT oready. I wanna purpose to my gf next month when i go HCM, i just know her for abt 3mths, she work in KTV in sg abt 4mths, 3rd time here in sg.



U still young with what teenagers called "puppy love".... Knowing a ger for 3 mths, esp foreigner and a WL, dun u think it is too short period to get marry?? How much u know her??


The last time she is here she stay with me & family, i understand that she required to earn money and entertain customers. I only earning abt $2-$2.5K/mth but with bank bad debt abt $150K.


With debt about 150k while earning 2.5k... it will be good karma or doing good deed by not marrying her. She will suffer more when with u.

she told me abt SGD1500 required.

1500sgd???? Guess her family requires to stay in big apartment and good food every meals or her family includes, uncles, auntie, nephew, cousins, bros, sis......



1) she will tell me that she going out with customers but never tell her customers that she got a bf.


Why will she needs to announce to the whole world?


2) she told me she go to hotel with customers only when she 1st time here for 2mths but not now.


Even if she goes hotel frequently, what can u do??


3) she never request any money from me since the 1st time we met till now.


This I heard a lot of times but till now I still dunno how to answer. I only this quote, "She is different from other WL."


Please all, im about of my mind now, all advise/feedback/comments are most welcome. I need enlightenment :confused:

Your situation almost the same as jklpoi, u guys should exchange contact to exchange pointers.

[elth]

Hi All Samster,

im totally lost, maybe i kanna KT oready. I wanna purpose to my gf next month when i go HCM, i just know her for abt 3mths, she work in KTV in sg abt 4mths, 3rd time here in sg.

The last time she is here she stay with me & family, i understand that she required to earn money and entertain customers. I only earning abt $2-$2.5K/mth but with bank bad debt abt $150K.

She knows abt my financial difficulty, but she willing to accept me as who am i. Honestly speaking i don wanna her to continue working in KTV, but i feel sad as i cant support her family needs, she told me abt SGD1500 required.

Im very snook by her family requirement which abt 3/4 of my salary. 1 thing i wanna all bros here to advise/feedback if u think she truthful in our relation & if i should continue with this relation.

1) she will tell me that she going out with customers but never tell her customers that she got a bf.


2) she told me she go to hotel with customers only when she 1st time here for 2mths but not now.

3) she never request any money from me since the 1st time we met till now.

Please all, im about of my mind now, all advise/feedback/comments are most welcome. I need enlightenment :confused:

3 months is really too short. btw required $1500 monthly or 1 time payment ? and if your salary $2-$2.5K/mth i dont really think is enough :cool:

for your point 1 to 3... if you have more encounter more viet gals you will find it very similar :D

give yourself more time to understand more... 日久见人心

[shysaint]

no,i will kill myself,starve to death is a toture for me,got hill,i jump down from hill,got sea,i jump down.

Bro . I love this sentence :p

[shysaint]

... and fucking slp underneath the bridge with a cardboard blanket.

u mean u sleep underneath the bridge with a cardboard blanket :confused: Confirm :confused:

[shysaint]

Why should i mind when she herself don't even mind.


How u KNOW she Don't mind :confused::eek: Even she tells u so ... How sure are you that she DON'T mind ....

[shysaint]

Shd be he dun understand how vietnamese think :D

All along I thought that too ...:D

[shysaint]

just to add: they are also very tiko...just like us...:D:D

THis is a CHOPPED and CONFIRMED statement ....

[shysaint]

Wa Eh Sai Chua Kwee Zuo Bor Bui Sai Hor Wa Eh Bor Zou Kwee..(in hokkien..)


Kwee = Ghost ..

Get your SPelling Correct .. else u can just Write in English ..and that will be fine ..

Kway ... Kuei ... Kwei .. will be more suitable :D

[shysaint]

he thought we all dun know each other...

I don't know you .. Really I don't you ..... hahaahahah ...

I share whom I know and I have met ... for this thread ONLY ... Real & confirm Identity ...

Hurricane88 ... oh .. is this you ????? Confirm ??? hehheheh ...
SingViet
KangTuo
JackBL
Vietboy
Casannova03
Golden Question
AdGuy
Volcano
SkyFree
BuddyBud
HoneyBoon
jf66312
Vlernar
Xyman

Recently I was ZAPPED by a f maron .. telling me : dun be a big F sharing about Vietnam ... there are others who are better ...

Now I answered u back ...

whether I talk big anot ... there are BROs who met me and know whether what I said is true ... SOmetimes the way we talked is becasue we knew each other for quite some times and this how we talk and discussed. Different people have their views and experiences .. I am just stating mine ... we are here to share .. Not happy to see ... u can just F**K off the thread ... u should not be bothered at all ...

[shysaint]

yeah i met quite a number in SG too.. i dun mean those blue collar, i meant those who refused to work and stay at home to play online games.. :o

you haven't answered my request ? WHEN can I ask u out for Party and a Drink and .... KNow about u :D

[shysaint]

she told me abt SGD1500 required.

If u can support her with $1.5k .. please go ahead ... BUT if u cannot ... then GOOD LUCK TO YOU ....

Have u been to Vietnam to Experienced and access the country .... on how much you can do for $1.5k ????

IF my MIL + my Wife + MY baby can make do with 650 which includes most of paying the stuff ... WHy your GF demands 1.5k ..

Maybe u can share with us where your GF lives and we can share more ..

[shysaint]

KT???? :eek::confused:

I thought of Posting someone is looking for u .. :p

[shysaint]

Have u been to Vietnam to Experienced and access the country ....

should be assess ....

[Hurricane88]

Bro Seletar: her family expect SDG1500/mth!!!

Bro Hurricane:

1 & 2) i wish we can get married
3 & 4) i try to know her more & i make known to my parents she working in KTV. My parents worry of her safety.
5 & 6) i never been to vietnam & donno much except from internet

from the answers you had given...you had an infatuation becus of sexual relationship...this is not love...you knew nothing of her country and family...how to support her when you can't even give here a comfortable life...dun tell me you want her to continue work as WL sleeping with clients...are u sure she loves you or just becus you provide her safety of your house for free...what happens when she no longer allowed into sinkie after she had been staying more than the number of days permitted per year in singapore...or caught by AV and deported back and banned 1 to 3 years from entering singapore...dun think you had immediate answers...this is definitely a problem...think she sure had to resort to WL life in Vn too if she wanted SGD 1.5k per month for family and more if she wants to spend herself...:)

my advice...just treat her as friend and FB...wear protection when bonking...no love relationship since you are still so young...or virtually end the relationship with no further heartbreak...only time will tell how this relationship will turned up to be...maybe give it 2 years to assess...:p

are you sure your parents agree with you that you marry a whore???:confused:

my famous quote "If you trust a WL then pigs can climb trees..."

The above is just my personal opionion...

[marcopit]

If u can support her with $1.5k .. please go ahead ... BUT if u cannot ... then GOOD LUCK TO YOU ....

Have u been to Vietnam to Experienced and access the country .... on how much you can do for $1.5k ????

IF my MIL + my Wife + MY baby can make do with 650 which includes most of paying the stuff ... WHy your GF demands 1.5k ..

Maybe u can share with us where your GF lives and we can share more ..

Thanks Naemlo, Elth & Shysaint for your advise & comments.

100% confirm chop & sign i cant affort $1500 every month to her family, maybe her family think every trip back from sg their daughter give this amount to them.

I think her parents oso asking too much, it like they are taking their own daughter as a money tree/commodity.

They stay in rural area of Mekong Delta, therefore i oso find that with $1500, i can spend a comfortable life for 2-3mths over there. Maybe i never been Vietnam before so do corect me if im wrong.

[marcopit]

from the answers you had given...you had an infatuation becus of sexual relationship...this is not love...you knew nothing of her country and family...how to support her when you can't even give here a comfortable life...dun tell me you want her to continue work as WL sleeping with clients...are u sure she loves you or just becus you provide her safety of your house for free...what happens when she no longer allowed into sinkie after she had been staying more than the number of days permitted per year in singapore...or caught by AV and deported back and banned 1 to 3 years from entering singapore...dun think you had immediate answers...this is definitely a problem...think she sure had to resort to WL life in Vn too if she wanted SGD 1.5k per month for family and more if she wants to spend herself...:)

my advice...just treat her as friend and FB...wear protection when bonking...no love relationship since you are still so young...or virtually end the relationship with no further heartbreak...only time will tell how this relationship will turned up to be...maybe give it 2 years to assess...:p

are you sure your parents agree with you that you marry a whore???:confused:

my famous quote "If you trust a WL then pigs can climb trees..."

The above is just my personal opionion...

Thanks Hurricane88 for your advise/comments,

my parents are ok as long as im happy, both are open minded. They also worry of her safety...caught by AV. I got a failed marriage before and im coming to 40yrs old soon.

[shysaint]

I think her parents oso asking too much, it like they are taking their own daughter as a money tree/commodity.

Welcome to Vietnam ....

They stay in rural area of Mekong Delta, therefore i oso find that with $1500, i can spend a comfortable life for 2-3mths over there. Maybe i never been Vietnam before so do corect me if im wrong.

Rural in Mekong Delta .... they Don't need 1.5k ..... unless she is feeding the whole Generation Tree

Good Luck to you on this Gal ... Thats all I can say .....

[naemlo]

100% confirm chop & sign i cant affort $1500 every month to her family, maybe her family think every trip back from sg their daughter give this amount to them.


With 1500SGD, I lived a SG lifestyle in Hanoi before. Good apartment, good food, good entertainment.


my parents are ok as long as im happy, both are open minded. They also worry of her safety...caught by AV. I got a failed marriage before and im coming to 40yrs old soon.

Since u have a failed marriage, then u should look more carefully with new. :rolleyes: U won't want a 2nd fail marriage.

[shysaint]

I got a failed marriage before and im coming to 40yrs old soon.

Failed Relationship ??? Me too , I am a divorcee ... FAiled relationship is not a very big deal ... but cannot commit again anyhow .. cannot say u are 40 and a gal 'Love" you and u starts to think illogical ...

So You Have to Open Your Eyes and See ....

Don't C**K Shiok ... Head also Shiok ....

Travel to Vietnam and Look See Look See .. don't find all sorts of excuses ... take the oppportunity to travel ...

[shysaint]

There are so Many F Clones of some F moron ...

I know u are the same F moron who uses your F clones to Zapped me ... Please Continue ...

Wake up ... It's only pts ... u F**king arsehole ... :eek:

[KangTuo]

I have vn guy friends and customers who are capable, well to do....

just to add: they are also very tiko...just like us...

just seen 1 yesterday... he use money bribe all the way to locate his gal way here in sillypore :eek:

drag her into taxi after she meet her below blk. bribe sillypore taxi driver drive all the way to ks. vb struggle, taxi driver also bo chap. reach ks81 in GL, bribe counter staff to let vb up even she no passport. in ks beat her her up (got knife somemore) till she too weak to struggle and have sex with vb, take video also...
after that dunno what liao but night time i need to go airport fetch the vb back while the vn guy wait for his morning flight back...

talk of the house now... all vb keep talking about the incident

[naemlo]

just seen 1 yesterday... he use money bribe all the way to locate his gal way here in sillypore :eek:


U seen her been dragged into taxi, then go hotel or u heard?? :rolleyes::D

[KangTuo]

U seen her been dragged into taxi, then go hotel or u heard?? :rolleyes::D

i saw him here in sillypore airport... my bx saw him drag her friend into taxi.
i saw bruises on the vb face and neck at night...

she cant be cooking up story about ks incident..
my bx cant be cooking up stories as well

Money work in vn... he search for this vb for 2weeks and give money to my bx bro daily... also meet and give money to few vb in vn to find info... in vn still can find all the way to sillypore

[Golden question]

Hi All Samster,

im totally lost, maybe i kanna KT oready. I wanna purpose to my gf next month when i go HCM, i just know her for abt 3mths, she work in KTV in sg abt 4mths, 3rd time here in sg.

The last time she is here she stay with me & family, i understand that she required to earn money and entertain customers. I only earning abt $2-$2.5K/mth but with bank bad debt abt $150K.

She knows abt my financial difficulty, but she willing to accept me as who am i. Honestly speaking i don wanna her to continue working in KTV, but i feel sad as i cant support her family needs, she told me abt SGD1500 required.

Im very snook by her family requirement which abt 3/4 of my salary. 1 thing i wanna all bros here to advise/feedback if u think she truthful in our relation & if i should continue with this relation.

1) she will tell me that she going out with customers but never tell her customers that she got a bf.


2) she told me she go to hotel with customers only when she 1st time here for 2mths but not now.

3) she never request any money from me since the 1st time we met till now.

Please all, im about of my mind now, all advise/feedback/comments are most welcome. I need enlightenment :confused:

My advise to u is to be a bastard.Tell her u cannot give her 1.5k every month.See what she will do after u tell her

3 things will happen:

no.1-she leave u and u have to come and say thank u to me
no.2-she reduce the price,then u have to come here to seek advise again
no.3-she say is ok,she understand,she will still want to stay with u and marry u

[shysaint]

My advise to u is to be a bastard.Tell her u cannot give her 1.5k every month.See what she will do after u tell her

3 things will happen:

no.1-she leave u and u have to come and say thank u to me
no.2-she reduce the price,then u have to come here to seek advise again
no.3-she say is ok,she understand,she will still want to stay with u and marry u

THat's True .. Sometimes we have to play games ...

[Golden question]

Thanks Naemlo, Elth & Shysaint for your advise & comments.

100% confirm chop & sign i cant affort $1500 every month to her family, maybe her family think every trip back from sg their daughter give this amount to them.

I think her parents oso asking too much, it like they are taking their own daughter as a money tree/commodity.

They stay in rural area of Mekong Delta, therefore i oso find that with $1500, i can spend a comfortable life for 2-3mths over there. Maybe i never been Vietnam before so do corect me if im wrong.

Maybe i get it wrong,is she say she need 1.5k for her family and not she ask u:p

If u know u cant afford,then let go lah,why make your life so diffcult.Vietnam culture not normal sg ppl can fully understand one leh,apply to me too:D

[jackbl]

talk of the house now... all vb keep talking about the incident

I also wan to listen more of this story.... Tonight meet at pub???

[Golden question]

THat's True .. Sometimes we have to play games ...

I play that bastard role before:D

[shysaint]

I also wan to listen more of this story.... Tonight meet at pub???

Euro Cup Final hor .... :D

[marcopit]

My advise to u is to be a bastard.Tell her u cannot give her 1.5k every month.See what she will do after u tell her

3 things will happen:

no.1-she leave u and u have to come and say thank u to me
no.2-she reduce the price,then u have to come here to seek advise again
no.3-she say is ok,she understand,she will still want to stay with u and marry u

Thanks Golden question for your advise, she choose No.3, that is why im flying to meet her parents next week.

[KangTuo]

I also wan to listen more of this story.... Tonight meet at pub???

these dayz i no tell night time stories...
i only tell noon / evening time stories at HMB :D

[Golden question]

Thanks Golden question for your advise, she choose No.3, that is why im flying to meet her parents next week.

Are u sure:eek:

Bro,i worry for u leh:D

[KangTuo]

Thanks Golden question for your advise, she choose No.3, that is why im flying to meet her parents next week.

Are u sure

Bro,i worry for u leh

why worry? :confused:

[naemlo]

i saw him here in sillypore airport... my bx saw him drag her friend into taxi.
i saw bruises on the vb face and neck at night...

she cant be cooking up story about ks incident..
my bx cant be cooking up stories as well


I dun doubt your story related from her or anyone. :D I just pity her with bruises.... she needs a lot of TLC, pls help me give a bit. Tell your bx u are helping a friend on this. :D

[naemlo]

Are u sure:eek:

Bro,i worry for u leh:D

why worry? :confused:

Another wedding, good to hear that :D

[KangTuo]

she needs a lot of TLC, pls help me give a bit.

TLC??? :confused:
twa lan ciao (jiao)???

[volcano]

This plan is she give me one. Because she thinks singapore very very expensive.
She once told me, if can stay Vietnam but take singapore money, very good

isn't this the dream for many others'.....:cool:

honestly speaking,i dun have any comments on u letting ur wife becoming a WL bcos she is ur wife and not mine.

but i really dun understand 1 thing,from ur previous postings,u mention that u r in debts and still need few years to clear it,hence ur wife is working as a WL to help.but why are u still having a car when u r in debt and ur wife has to be a WL?

and as for ur plannings on getting a unit near joo chiat to rent out to WL...yes,doing this is definitely easy money.but from personal experience of doing this kind of things 10 years ago.not everything seems easy and with no risks.furthermore u mention that u r an ex convict.can only wish u good luck if u insist in doing.

[naemlo]

TLC??? :confused:
twa lan ciao (jiao)???

I dun mind if she needs and u can provide to make her feel better. :D

[volcano]

times are changing. Even the mighty and oh so noble singaporean girls are working in KTV now,


u really confuse me:confused:....KTV during the times when i am still a teenager were the world of Sillyporean gals and Malaysians.those were the days when famous mummy really "controls" her daughter and everyday was like "shake party" at places like Cashbox,Capri,De Cognac,Stages etc (dunno if any bros still remember these places)

"foreign import" started caming in late 90s where VBs are avaliable at Parklane Tuberose and Kai Xuan Men at Balestier.VBs are not common at JC that time and the only place that has VBs is Trap (this place is now Jazzy 51).the VBs are not in the pub and the OKT will send the gals over for viewing when u request.non selected gals will be send back to the hotel.only later part when pubs like Jazzy,Blue Star,Blue Lagoon appears and JC starts to change its night scene.

[KangTuo]

u really confuse me:confused:....KTV during the times when i am still a teenager were the world of Sillyporean gals and Malaysians.

makes me recall back the multiple sillypore syt i hook up at M and M3 back in 1994- 1995.... hiaz.. those where the young and carefree dayz

just sign-on got 1st pay check + back pay... got car... hooking up these syt is a piece of cake :)

[volcano]

but i feel sad as i cant support her family needs, she told me abt SGD1500 required.

first of all,paiseh if i may seems too blunt.

feeling sad bcos u can't help her on her family expense of $1.5k???

do u feel sad when u cant buy a present which is $1.5k for ur parents on their birthdays???

hmm....$1.5k Sgd for family expenses???....that is 25 mills vnd.do u know how much a local Vietnamese earn?or better still,do u know how much does a bank branch manager earns?i have been leaving in HCMC for quite sometimes already,my family expenses is only half of her amount.unless she has brothers who are everyday either sleeping at home or busy at coffee shop and has parents that feel that they are lucky to have bore a "money tree" and the tree is already capable of bringing in easy money by "spreading its branches".

and if above is really the case,i sincerely hope that ur "running speed" is faster then rocket speed.hope u can understand my 2vnd worth of advice...:)

[volcano]

They stay in rural area of Mekong Delta, therefore i oso find that with $1500, i can spend a comfortable life for 2-3mths over there. Maybe i never been Vietnam before so do corect me if im wrong.


hmm...staying in rural area at Mekong Delta.

i might just be able to answer ur questions.

breakfast - 12k-15k for a bowl of beef noodles.4k-5k for a glass of black coffee.

lunch - 15k-20k for a plate of rice with bbq meat and assorted vege.

dinner - u can choose the same as lunch or if u want something better,seafood hotpot or chicken hotpot is avaliable at 50k-100k.do note that the hot pot serving can easily feeds 3 person.

if u do drink,cheap Saigon Beer selling at 140k-150k per crate with 20 pints and Heineken 380k per carton with 24 cans.

families staying in Mekong usually only have their breakfast outside whereas lunch and dinner are cook at home.and it is usually cheaper by at least 20%-30% of the price i mention above unless their daily meals consist of seafoods like crabs and live prawns.and for ur knowledge,live seafoods e.g crabs and tiger prawns are not even avaliable at their own small village market bcos nobody will buy them unless there is special function like birthday or wedding.

so i think u should be able to make ur own calculations from here on how long u r able to survive with 25 million vnd in a rural village.me as a Sillyporean can survive on those above which i mention when i ever stay at a rural village for 6 weeks,i really cant think of any reasons where Vietnamese cant survive on that since they are born there.

[marcopit]

first of all,paiseh if i may seems too blunt.

feeling sad bcos u can't help her on her family expense of $1.5k???

do u feel sad when u cant buy a present which is $1.5k for ur parents on their birthdays???

hmm....$1.5k Sgd for family expenses???....that is 25 mills vnd.do u know how much a local Vietnamese earn?or better still,do u know how much does a bank branch manager earns?i have been leaving in HCMC for quite sometimes already,my family expenses is only half of her amount.unless she has brothers who are everyday either sleeping at home or busy at coffee shop and has parents that feel that they are lucky to have bore a "money tree" and the tree is already capable of bringing in easy money by "spreading its branches".

and if above is really the case,i sincerely hope that ur "running speed" is faster then rocket speed.hope u can understand my 2vnd worth of advice...:)

Thanks volcano for you advise/comment,

both i do feel sad because financially i cant provide them. if im not wrong avg local earning abt $120-150. I prepare to set aside abt $600 monthly for her parents. If her parents insist of that amount $1500, i confirm will become the ''Flash':p

[marcopit]

hmm...staying in rural area at Mekong Delta.

i might just be able to answer ur questions.

breakfast - 12k-15k for a bowl of beef noodles.4k-5k for a glass of black coffee.

lunch - 15k-20k for a plate of rice with bbq meat and assorted vege.

dinner - u can choose the same as lunch or if u want something better,seafood hotpot or chicken hotpot is avaliable at 50k-100k.do note that the hot pot serving can easily feeds 3 person.

if u do drink,cheap Saigon Beer selling at 140k-150k per crate with 20 pints and Heineken 380k per carton with 24 cans.

families staying in Mekong usually only have their breakfast outside whereas lunch and dinner are cook at home.and it is usually cheaper by at least 20%-30% of the price i mention above unless their daily meals consist of seafoods like crabs and live prawns.and for ur knowledge,live seafoods e.g crabs and tiger prawns are not even avaliable at their own small village market bcos nobody will buy them unless there is special function like birthday or wedding.

so i think u should be able to make ur own calculations from here on how long u r able to survive with 25 million vnd in a rural village.me as a Sillyporean can survive on those above which i mention when i ever stay at a rural village for 6 weeks,i really cant think of any reasons where Vietnamese cant survive on that since they are born there.

i agreed with you :)

[volcano]

Thanks Golden question for your advise, she choose No.3, that is why im flying to meet her parents next week.


she needs to support her family expenses of 1.5k Sgd per month and u still wanna fly over and meet her parents for discussion???

seriously i wish u good luck and will be praying for u later when i offer incense at my house in hcmc.:)

do come back and keep us posted on ur things.i believe many bros here will be waiting for it.

Cheers

[volcano]

makes me recall back the multiple sillypore syt i hook up at M and M3 back in 1994- 1995...


and there will never be any spot checks on these 2 outlets during that time....:)

[Seletar]

u really confuse me:confused:....KTV during the times when i am still a teenager were the world of Sillyporean gals and Malaysians.those were the days when famous mummy really "controls" her daughter and everyday was like "shake party" at places like Cashbox,Capri,De Cognac,Stages etc (dunno if any bros still remember these places)

"foreign import" started caming in late 90s where VBs are avaliable at Parklane Tuberose and Kai Xuan Men at Balestier.VBs are not common at JC that time and the only place that has VBs is Trap (this place is now Jazzy 51).the VBs are not in the pub and the OKT will send the gals over for viewing when u request.non selected gals will be send back to the hotel.only later part when pubs like Jazzy,Blue Star,Blue Lagoon appears and JC starts to change its night scene.

Yes, those were the days, when I was younger I used to chiong Kai Xuan Men at Balestier, the VBs all very hot, some can do on the spot..

[marcopit]

she needs to support her family expenses of 1.5k Sgd per month and u still wanna fly over and meet her parents for discussion???

seriously i wish u good luck and will be praying for u later when i offer incense at my house in hcmc.:)

do come back and keep us posted on ur things.i believe many bros here will be waiting for it.

Cheers

Thanks Volcano for your well wishes :) will keep all updated when im back

[volcano]

Yes, those were the days, when I was younger I used to chiong Kai Xuan Men at Balestier, the VBs all very hot, some can do on the spot..


best phrase at Kai Xuan Men would be...."do u want to go enjoy the moon scenery"....:D

[Golden question]

first of all,paiseh if i may seems too blunt.

feeling sad bcos u can't help her on her family expense of $1.5k???

do u feel sad when u cant buy a present which is $1.5k for ur parents on their birthdays???

hmm....$1.5k Sgd for family expenses???....that is 25 mills vnd.do u know how much a local Vietnamese earn?or better still,do u know how much does a bank branch manager earns?i have been leaving in HCMC for quite sometimes already,my family expenses is only half of her amount.unless she has brothers who are everyday either sleeping at home or busy at coffee shop and has parents that feel that they are lucky to have bore a "money tree" and the tree is already capable of bringing in easy money by "spreading its branches".

and if above is really the case,i sincerely hope that ur "running speed" is faster then rocket speed.hope u can understand my 2vnd worth of advice...:)

What a nice sentence to sum up how i feel especially nowaday sg society.Rather than saving for their future to support their family or parents,they rather spend on outsiders

[Golden question]

Thanks volcano for you advise/comment,

both i do feel sad because financially i cant provide them. if im not wrong avg local earning abt $120-150. I prepare to set aside abt $600 monthly for her parents. If her parents insist of that amount $1500, i confirm will become the ''Flash':p

Dont because of sad and create a heavy burden for u,my friend.
u mention u earn around 2.5k.U think u can manage to give her $600?U still have 150k bank debt,transport,eat,house and etc also need money.

How can u support her?Did u ever think of if u marry her,she cannot work in sg or find a decent job?Yes u can say u support $600 for her parents so she no need to work but let me tell u something,almost all viet spouse i know want to come out work even though husband is supporting her vietnam side.

And do u know her enough just for few months?If u dont know her enough,must at least learn about their culture first,why rush into it?

[Golden question]

Thanks volcano for you advise/comment,

both i do feel sad because financially i cant provide them. if im not wrong avg local earning abt $120-150. I prepare to set aside abt $600 monthly for her parents. If her parents insist of that amount $1500, i confirm will become the ''Flash':p

To me if she open mouth 1.5k,i already 'flash' already until cannot see my soul but u still can go see her parents,dont wish to pour 'cold water' on u cos i think with your age,u are already mature enough to get what we mean.

[elth]

Thanks Golden question for your advise, she choose No.3, that is why im flying to meet her parents next week.

Are u sure:eek:

Bro,i worry for u leh:D

ya faster go there see see also good la... :D

[superhuman]

we concerned abt u. if u can, pls do give us updates. all the best!

perhaps well-experienced bro can advise on what to expect from further parents-in-law and if a gift should be (or shld not be) bought, etc

[zion1989]

Dont because of sad and create a heavy burden for u,my friend.
u mention u earn around 2.5k.U think u can manage to give her $600?U still have 150k bank debt,transport,eat,house and etc also need money.

How can u support her?Did u ever think of if u marry her,she cannot work in sg or find a decent job?Yes u can say u support $600 for her parents so she no need to work but let me tell u something,almost all viet spouse i know want to come out work even though husband is supporting her vietnam side.
i agree, viet girls even married still would want to come out and work. But what kind of decent job can a viet woman work in Sing ?
And do u know her enough just for few months?If u dont know her enough,must at least learn about their culture first,why rush into it?



To me if she open mouth 1.5k,i already 'flash' already until cannot see my soul but u still can go see her parents,dont wish to pour 'cold water' on u cos i think with your age,u are already mature enough to get what we mean.

LOL i like the statement To me if she open mouth 1.5k,i already 'flash' already until cannot see my soul but u still can go see her parents. Since the girl never charge him money, now is the WL putting long line to catch big fish ? 1.5k is alot, i newbie also but average a viet earn below 300USD. "

[KangTuo]

Hi All Samster,

im totally lost, maybe i kanna KT oready. I wanna purpose to my gf next month when i go HCM, i just know her for abt 3mths, she work in KTV in sg abt 4mths, 3rd time here in sg.

Thanks Golden question for your advise, she choose No.3, that is why im flying to meet her parents next week.

I prepare to set aside abt $600 monthly for her parents. If her parents insist of that amount $1500, i confirm will become the ''Flash':p

since you kana KT (me), i got abit interested and read thru your post.

IMHO, this vb, gf of yours is making use of you as a ticket to come sillypore to work. Furthermore, you provide free lodging. On her next trip here, she will want you to help by being her guarantor to bring her into Sillypore... that is why you no money also nevermind. She just need someone to help her in as she is already here 3rd time.

i would say, you can go vietnam to tour and look see with an open heart. don't commit $$$ to her 1st. :)

[KangTuo]

I hate it when people look down on me. I had it enough with people looking down on me. Think about what you are writing before you post, Please.

you got my support :)
you are in the same situation as my in-law but 1 less burden (1 kid only) than you.
My bx niece still work in ktv while her sillypore hubby held 2 jobs to support and clear debts..

[marcopit]

since you kana KT (me), i got abit interested and read thru your post.

IMHO, this vb, gf of yours is making use of you as a ticket to come sillypore to work. Furthermore, you provide free lodging. On her next trip here, she will want you to help by being her guarantor to bring her into Sillypore... that is why you no money also nevermind. She just need someone to help her in as she is already here 3rd time.

i would say, you can go vietnam to tour and look see with an open heart. don't commit $$$ to her 1st. :)

Thanks Golden question, Superhuman, Zion1989 & Kangtuo,

thanks for all your advise/comments & concern, im very glad that we able to share experience/information here. I will post my outcome ASAP once im back.

As on now i yet to commit any money on her :p

[zion1989]

Thanks Golden question, Superhuman, Zion1989 & Kangtuo,

thanks for all your advise/comments & concern, im very glad that we able to share experience/information here. I will post my outcome ASAP once im back.

As on now i yet to commit any money on her :p

You are welcome, but dun really set too high hope. Because i having similar situation as you. I meeting the mom in nov, but married still far. I also know my girl in KTV as WL but was in viet . Haha i also think i kena KT, but their culture really put parents as top priority, so if there is no bargain. Then high chance it all over. All the best for your coming trip

[jf66312]

You are welcome, but dun really set too high hope. Because i having similar situation as you. I meeting the mom in nov, but married still far. I also know my girl in KTV as WL but was in viet . Haha i also think i kena KT, but their culture really put parents as top priority, so if there is no bargain. Then high chance it all over. All the best for your coming trip

why all kana KT??? shld be KC? :confused:

bro KT - seems alot ppl kana from you ...hjhjh... :p

[vietboy]

I can see that you don't understand how WL think... :D

Shd be he dun understand how vietnamese think :D

Yes i admit i dun understand vietnamese thinking. I only exposed to viet ppl n culture for a few yrs only.

Understanding a race is not a few years thingie. U can see why those sociologists n anthropologists spent years to study a particular society, a particular culture n they still dun dare say they fully understand their subject of study. Understanding a person is already hard, dun need to say for a race! To understand vietnamese ppl, u have to know all sorts of ppl, from all walks of life, from all region, not just knowing a few ppl from southern part n only works as WL.

[vietboy]

where can find job for uneducated and unskilled vb which can get up to $1500 per month?
the most i know is $800 in service line like beer lady and in pub.

Bro, seriously, u need to step out of yur small cicle of WLs. Who tell u uneducated, unskilled cannot find job of $1000 - $1500? My friend's wife previously working as an assistant at a zi char stall n her pay is $1200, my wife friend 1st job is $1500 n my wife last job is $1100. All these are vietnamese, uneducated n unskilled. :)

[vietboy]

i will never let my bx work as WL also.... not because i don't want her to suffer (to vb, working as WL is just another job.. not suffering at all)

truthfully its all about face value... :)

Yes i agreed its face value. Maybe its my face value that matters more to me. :)

just like what my bx told me last time... i go out play as long as not caught and seen or play with her friends its ok liao. its her face value.. :)

My bx also said that to me b4. :)

[AdGuy]

why all kana KT??? shld be KC? :confused:

bro KT - seems alot ppl kana from you ...hjhjh... :p

All those who kena KT who cleanse yourself by abstaining from sex for 3 months.

Otherwise when the disease spread, there's no more hope :D

[Seletar]

Bro, seriously, u need to step out of yur small cicle of WLs. Who tell u uneducated, unskilled cannot find job of $1000 - $1500? My friend's wife previously working as an assistant at a zi char stall n her pay is $1200, my wife friend 1st job is $1500 n my wife last job is $1100. All these are vietnamese, uneducated n unskilled. :)

Yes you can get $1200, but 12 hours of work, those $800 is 8 hr of work,

[vietboy]

Your situation almost the same as jklpoi, u guys should exchange contact to exchange pointers.

Sikali they are clones. :p:D

[vietboy]

All along I thought that too ...:D

U "shoot" me too. Huhuhu. :(

[AdGuy]

The only thing that we should know about Vietnamese life partners is that 90% of them marry into Singapore not understanding the concept of love, not to mention loving their husbands.

We are their ticket to a better life, a better future, and whatever more they intend to do. Do note that this does not mean they all have the intention to fleece you. But if you can support their family with $500 a month (which is a measly sum for many in our context), that's already life changing for many of them, especially in the rural areas).

That being said, some of them actually grow to love their Singapore husbands. But if anyone expects true love to blossom between you and a VB (especially WL) in a matter of weeks or months, you are just in dreamland.

This forum helps put you back in reality in the shortest possible time, and with the least possible damage. ;)

[Hurricane88]

Just to share...another modern viet revolving...:)

I met one VB aged 24yrs old graduated from Singapore Polytechnic working in TTS Hospital in pharmacist purchasing...she is modern Viet whereby parents dun need her to support...she knew nuts about Viet becus parents send her on xe may/car to everywhere...she said "I choose my own bf/hubby"...so her holidays are all accompanied by parents even when sinkie bf is with her in Vietnam...ie. room is father and bf and mother with her...:)

becus of stereotyping of VB in sinkie she dun tell ppl she is Vnese...she speaks singlish with no Viet accent and so if she dun tell ppl she is viet nobody will knows except she dun speak mandarin or dialects...in my opinion this is a typical wifey material...:)

there are plenty of decent gals in Viet waiting for brideless men here...all you need is just go find them...finding in sinkie are mostly WL or another man's wife...so dun waste time here...:)

[vietboy]

Yes you can get $1200, but 12 hours of work, those $800 is 8 hr of work,

Yes 12 hrs work for the zi char stall assistant. But for my wife n her friend is 9 hrs work.
BTW, i recently met a vb working as a beer promoter in JW area n was told that her average pay is $1100 per mth for 5 hrs of work.

There are alot of jobs out there, its just that whether we wanna put in effort to look for them or not.

[jackbl]

why all kana KT???

KT as in 降头 (Kong Tow)

[jackbl]

To understand vietnamese ppl, u have to know all sorts of ppl, from all walks of life, from all region, not just knowing a few ppl from southern part n only works as WL.

Well said! That's why KT & me still learning and understanding....

[shysaint]

U "shoot" me too. Huhuhu. :(

hehehehhehe ... kkekekekekeke .... :p

[jf66312]

Yes 12 hrs work for the zi char stall assistant. But for my wife n her friend is 9 hrs work.
BTW, i recently met a vb working as a beer promoter in JW area n was told that her average pay is $1100 per mth for 5 hrs of work.

There are alot of jobs out there, its just that whether we wanna put in effort to look for them or not.

wuah...when did u go to JW area to drink ah? get to knw beer promoter somemore... :p

[jf66312]

KT as in 降头 (Kong Tow)

i see...no wonder...seldom see ppl use Kong Tow...

only KT i know is bro Kang Tuo... :p

hope he doesnt use this skill on me though i knw ihe expert to use KT on Vbs..
:D:p

[casannova03]

why all kana KT??? shld be KC? :confused:

bro KT - seems alot ppl kana from you ...hjhjh... :p


Cos he think he kena KT(Kong Tao) and not KC(kum cheng)...:p:p

[jf66312]

Cos he think he kena KT(Kong Tao) and not KC(kum cheng)...:p:p

so kana KT is worse than being KCed or kana KCed by KT is worse?? :p

[casannova03]

so kana KT is worse than being KCed or kana KCed by KT is worse?? :p


I suppose both have devastating effects....:D:D

[vietboy]

wuah...when did u go to JW area to drink ah? get to knw beer promoter somemore... :p

Secret dun tell u. :p

[jf66312]

Secret dun tell u. :p

ok lol....u can pm me.. :p

[asdfghjkl]

there are plenty of decent gals in Viet waiting for brideless men here...all you need is just go find them...finding in sinkie are mostly WL or another man's wife...so dun waste time here...:)

very true.. my neighbor in Vietnam was just married to a fellow from India.. :o

[KangTuo]

Silly ~! the Officer already give you a hint , is she fit to fly ? get a letter not fit to fly due to blah blah blah ..

then throw a threat " if i lost mine baby , ICA give me one ? "

you are absolutely correct..

This morning go apply further extension (already 2mths) for my bx again but was rejected as they claim that my doctor memo only state my bx expected delivery date. So I bring her see doctor and get a memo... the doctor only state that "my bx is xxxxx, travelling will make it worse... xxxx". This time go interview room. But again it was rejected. The Encik claimed that those Degree Holder officer reject it because the doctor did not certify and spell out the wording "unfit for travel" :mad:

I tell him straight.. I also degree holder, doctor also highly educated... ICA officer is stupid brainless degree holder. I stomp out.

LL... bx need to go back liao... will come back again for the gynea appointment in 2 weeks time... will be subjected to ICA screening again :(

[Blast88]

Just a quick check with bros here, how frequent does your bx call back vietnam to chat with her family member. I bought her a calling card with callback services & she used up almost S$70 per week so 1 month choked up additional S$280 on top of her singtel subscription, is it too much:mad:
I have been advicing her to use free internet call online but complaint poor
reception & distortion still prefer using callback services to call vietnam via her mobile phone. I purchased telcom 1515 services, any bros have cheaper callback service provider:p

[Blast88]

you are absolutely correct..

This morning go apply further extension (already 2mths) for my bx again but was rejected as they claim that my doctor memo only state my bx expected delivery date. So I bring her see doctor and get a memo... the doctor only state that "my bx is xxxxx, travelling will make it worse... xxxx". This time go interview room. But again it was rejected. The Encik claimed that those Degree Holder officer reject it because the doctor did not certify and spell out the wording "unfit for travel" :mad:

I tell him straight.. I also degree holder, doctor also highly educated... ICA officer is stupid brainless degree holder. I stomp out.

LL... bx need to go back liao... will come back again for the gynea appointment in 2 weeks time... will be subjected to ICA screening again :(

Bros KT,

DO NOT CHALLENGE those ICA officer, we are always at the losing end. My experiences tell me letter from KKH are more 'powerful' comparing to outside private gynea as it is one of ICA trusted partner, you may want to try them when your bx back to s'pore.

[KangTuo]

I tell him straight.. I also degree holder, doctor also highly educated... ICA officer is stupid brainless degree holder. I stomp out.

[QUOTE=Blast88;7412933]Bros KT,

DO NOT CHALLENGE those ICA officer, we are always at the losing end./QUOTE]

I won't challenge brainless and inefficient degree holders...
I was told I need to wait a total of 3 months for my bx LTVP appeal.. another 1.5 months.

at least some auntie ICA staff at the counter stiil go brain to think and got heart to feel. The auntie looks sorry and dejected for me after the Degree Officer inside rejected the extension. She keep saying sorry sorry sorry...

[vietboy]

you are absolutely correct..

This morning go apply further extension (already 2mths) for my bx again but was rejected as they claim that my doctor memo only state my bx expected delivery date. So I bring her see doctor and get a memo... the doctor only state that "my bx is xxxxx, travelling will make it worse... xxxx". This time go interview room. But again it was rejected. The Encik claimed that those Degree Holder officer reject it because the doctor did not certify and spell out the wording "unfit for travel" :mad:

I tell him straight.. I also degree holder, doctor also highly educated... ICA officer is stupid brainless degree holder. I stomp out.

LL... bx need to go back liao... will come back again for the gynea appointment in 2 weeks time... will be subjected to ICA screening again :(

Yes those "degree holders" all follow the rules blindly, follow till word for word. I have similar experiences with another ministry recently. My wife got some problems with her previous employer, we went MOM for help, lodged a case n they withhold my wife's passport without reason. Call a few times no one answer, was also told these type of cases will drag for 6 mths! :eek: a month passed but like no movement so fed up i went to see MP, but i see that MP letter not strong enough so i myself write letter go shoot to the minister. Then they start to look into the case n managed to see some movement n got some explaination. Now they agreed to release her passport back to her.

KT, u shld stay there longer n argue with them. Demand that stupid officer to see u face to face n explain why reject. Say like the bros mentioned b4: "anything happened to my wife n child, u going to give me back a wife n child ha?"

[vietboy]

Bros KT,

DO NOT CHALLENGE those ICA officer, we are always at the losing end. My experiences tell me letter from KKH are more 'powerful' comparing to outside private gynea as it is one of ICA trusted partner, you may want to try them when your bx back to s'pore.

Got such thing as hospital is ICA trusted partner meh?? :confused:

[naemlo]

I have been advicing her to use free internet call online but complaint poor
reception & distortion still prefer using callback services to call vietnam via her mobile phone. I purchased telcom 1515 services, any bros have cheaper callback service provider:p

Skybe, viber are quite clear... I am using it to talk to my business associates in Hanoi and HCMC. Human being is like this, when u dun pay for it, u won't feel the pain, u will continue to misuse the privileged. :D

I am also using pfingo and Hoiio for oversea calls. Decent rates and quality is good.

[Blast88]

Got such thing as hospital is ICA trusted partner meh?? :confused:

Kindly go thru the ICA website on permit to deliver baby in Singapore, they will list down a few hospital which are trusted partner of ICA

[shysaint]

Just a quick check with bros here, how frequent does your bx call back vietnam to chat with her family member. I bought her a calling card with callback services & she used up almost S$70 per week so 1 month choked up additional S$280 on top of her singtel subscription, is it too much:mad:
I have been advicing her to use free internet call online but complaint poor
reception & distortion still prefer using callback services to call vietnam via her mobile phone. I purchased telcom 1515 services, any bros have cheaper callback service provider:p

Previously .. the best way to call back vietnam is to use M1 ... Pre-paid comes with free IDD call ... calls to Vietnam will be deducted as local call time ...

AS for Post-paid, u need to pay $5 every month to subscribe to the IDD service ... All calls made to Vietnam are deducted and charged as local calls ... I used to choke up to $1.6k calling Vietnam but because of the M1 idd, I paid only $160 in the final bill ...

Currently, SINGTEL have started IDD to Vietnam .. previously I subscibed the mthly $5 IDD servies to call Thailand.

Not sure the rate for calling Vietnam thru' SINGTEL with the subscribed IDD service, u can go enquire ...

Else go buy CHat CHat Card loh ... 128 mins for $7.80 ...

[shysaint]

Kindly go thru the ICA website on permit to deliver baby in Singapore, they will list down a few hospital which are trusted partner of ICA

Maybe you can show us the link in ICA which list down hospital that are trusted partner of ICA ....

This is my link and I do not have any list ..

important criteria:

•Form Form V75* duly certified by a registered doctor in Singapore and signed by the applicant.
•Alternatively, a letter from a registered doctor in Singapore stating the brief details of the illness and the period of stay required for the treatment

http://www.ica.gov.sg/page.aspx?pageid=237&secid=338

Did you MIX-UP with Application/Extending of Visit Pass in the portal ... Yes ... There is some categories of applying ... Either Submission thru Individual or Submission through Strategic Partner.

https://www.psi.gov.sg/NASApp/tmf/TMFServlet?app=STSVP-PUBLIC&isNew=true&Reload=true

Is this the Strategic Partner (=trusted partner of ICA) you are talking about ?

Don't tell me the hospital mentioned in this link are ICA trusted partner??? This is only for registration of Birth ...

http://www.ica.gov.sg/page.aspx?pageid=186

[Blast88]

Yes those "degree holders" all follow the rules blindly, follow till word for word. I have similar experiences with another ministry recently. My wife got some problems with her previous employer, we went MOM for help, lodged a case n they withhold my wife's passport without reason. Call a few times no one answer, was also told these type of cases will drag for 6 mths! :eek: a month passed but like no movement so fed up i went to see MP, but i see that MP letter not strong enough so i myself write letter go shoot to the minister. Then they start to look into the case n managed to see some movement n got some explaination. Now they agreed to release her passport back to her.

KT, u shld stay there longer n argue with them. Demand that stupid officer to see u face to face n explain why reject. Say like the bros mentioned b4: "anything happened to my wife n child, u going to give me back a wife n child ha?"

You are so naive, do you think there will be a different outcome when you make a fuss there:rolleyes:Do you think the officer will bother to come out & see you:confused:There are hundred of similar cases happening at ICA everyday & they do not have to answerable to you, why reject, every application are all subject with their own merit.

[Blast88]

Maybe you can show us the link in ICA which list down hospital that are trusted partner of ICA ....

This is my link and I do not have any list ..

important criteria:

•Form Form V75* duly certified by a registered doctor in Singapore and signed by the applicant.
•Alternatively, a letter from a registered doctor in Singapore stating the brief details of the illness and the period of stay required for the treatment

http://www.ica.gov.sg/page.aspx?pageid=237&secid=338

Did you MIX-UP with Application/Extending of Visit Pass in the portal ... Yes ... There is some categories of applying ... Either Submission thru Individual or Submission through Strategic Partner.

https://www.psi.gov.sg/NASApp/tmf/TMFServlet?app=STSVP-PUBLIC&isNew=true&Reload=true

Is this the Strategic Partner (=trusted partner of ICA) you are talking about ?

Don't tell me the hospital mentioned in this link are ICA trusted partner??? This is only for registration of Birth ...

http://www.ica.gov.sg/page.aspx?pageid=186

Following should be the link on hospitals to register birth

http://www.ica.gov.sg/page.aspx?pageid=186

[Blast88]

Maybe you can show us the link in ICA which list down hospital that are trusted partner of ICA ....

This is my link and I do not have any list ..

important criteria:

•Form Form V75* duly certified by a registered doctor in Singapore and signed by the applicant.
•Alternatively, a letter from a registered doctor in Singapore stating the brief details of the illness and the period of stay required for the treatment

http://www.ica.gov.sg/page.aspx?pageid=237&secid=338

Did you MIX-UP with Application/Extending of Visit Pass in the portal ... Yes ... There is some categories of applying ... Either Submission thru Individual or Submission through Strategic Partner.

https://www.psi.gov.sg/NASApp/tmf/TMFServlet?app=STSVP-PUBLIC&isNew=true&Reload=true

Is this the Strategic Partner (=trusted partner of ICA) you are talking about ?

Don't tell me the hospital mentioned in this link are ICA trusted partner??? This is only for registration of Birth ...

http://www.ica.gov.sg/page.aspx?pageid=186

Yes, those hospital mentioned are all trusted partner to ICA

[KangTuo]

we went MOM for help, lodged a case n they withhold my wife's passport without reason. Call a few times no one answer, was also told these type of cases will drag for 6 mths! :eek:

good mah..Your wife go valid reason to stay
same as one of my bx sis. Her passport is held by ICA till now.
Recently, she also pregnant then ICA agree to continue look into the matter and release the passport. At the meantime my bx sis continue staying here.
So good.

will bother to come out & see you:confused:There are hundred of similar cases happening at ICA everyday & they do not have to answerable to you, why reject, every application are all subject with their own merit.

ICA = I Cannot Answer

[Hurricane88]

thanks for all your advise/comments & concern, im very glad that we able to share experience/information here. I will post my outcome ASAP once im back.


think you better consider thrice before you decide to marry her...in view of bro KT baxa LTSVP who earned higher than you...bro KT had so much problem trying to apply LTSVP and same for many bros recently...dun solve one problem then face another big problem...:)

[shysaint]

think you better consider thrice before you decide to marry her...in view of bro KT baxa LTSVP who earned higher than you...bro KT had so much problem trying to apply LTSVP and same for many bros recently...dun solve one problem then face another big problem...:)

Currently Renewing mine bx's LTVP ... will update and share :)

[naemlo]

think you better consider thrice before you decide to marry her...in view of bro KT baxa LTSVP who earned higher than you...bro KT had so much problem trying to apply LTSVP and same for many bros recently...dun solve one problem then face another big problem...:)

Love is blind... :D No point telling him when in honeymoon period.

Too many foreigners in SG with PR, LTVP or whatever visa, it is too crowded. These are the views from most S'porean but when comes to own wife, then we will question the govt why so difficult to get my wife a PR or even stay long term in SG?? :D Aren't SG a funny country to stay in?

[jf66312]

Currently Renewing mine bx's LTVP ... will update and share :)

mine just renewed..approved in less than 2 weeks...but not sure they issue 1 year or the new ltsvp plus...cost they didn state..but my oc have to go thru medical check up already cost this is the 3rd time i renew for her...

PR appt to submit doc is also this wed...was told by officer to renew long term pass first while awaiting PR application result...

[Hurricane88]

Love is blind... :D No point telling him when in honeymoon period.

Too many foreigners in SG with PR, LTVP or whatever visa, it is too crowded. These are the views from most S'porean but when comes to own wife, then we will question the govt why so difficult to get my wife a PR or even stay long term in SG?? :D Aren't SG a funny country to stay in?

haha...i will be the odd one to move to hcm after I retired...so my problem is how to secure LTVP pass in hcm...:)

[naemlo]

haha...i will be the odd one to move to hcm after I retired...so my problem is how to secure LTVP pass in hcm...:)

Ya same, retire in oversea.... No need to worry too much.

[KangTuo]

Currently Renewing mine bx's LTVP ... will update and share :)

mine just renewed..approved in less than 2 weeks...

PR appt to submit doc is also this wed...was told by officer to renew long term pass first while awaiting PR application result...

seems like LTVP renewal is easier ...
my friend PR application for his pinoy wife kana rejected recently...

[KangTuo]

in view of bro KT baxa LTSVP who earned higher than you...bro KT had so much problem

i earn $1500 per month only leh...
hope LTVP is not a problem... just have to wait and wait

[elth]

Previously .. the best way to call back vietnam is to use M1 ... Pre-paid comes with free IDD call ... calls to Vietnam will be deducted as local call time ...

AS for Post-paid, u need to pay $5 every month to subscribe to the IDD service ... All calls made to Vietnam are deducted and charged as local calls ... I used to choke up to $1.6k calling Vietnam but because of the M1 idd, I paid only $160 in the final bill ...

Currently, SINGTEL have started IDD to Vietnam .. previously I subscibed the mthly $5 IDD servies to call Thailand.

Not sure the rate for calling Vietnam thru' SINGTEL with the subscribed IDD service, u can go enquire ...

Else go buy CHat CHat Card loh ... 128 mins for $7.80 ...

my friend using M1 prepaid told me after 9pm the call rates is cheaper can go check at M1 website. my friend spend about $90-100 per mth average

for me I using Chatchat... the value is $10 per card but some shop they are selling at $8 so got extra $2 (most shop in GL sell $8 if not bargin with the shop)

but if you are calling everyday how cheap the rates also no use... must have self control :D

[shysaint]

mine just renewed..approved in less than 2 weeks...but not sure they issue 1 year or the new ltsvp plus...cost they didn state..but my oc have to go thru medical check up already cost this is the 3rd time i renew for her...

PR appt to submit doc is also this wed...was told by officer to renew long term pass first while awaiting PR application result...

Yeah .. they ask me to do that 1st ....

Wah liao the queue for submission of PR documents is damn longggggggg ... mt appoint is 30 AUgust sia ... :mad:

[shysaint]

seems like LTVP renewal is easier ...
my friend PR application for his pinoy wife kana rejected recently...

YEah .. with the new LTVP + .. PR is even more difficult ... :(

[vietboy]

You are so naive, do you think there will be a different outcome when you make a fuss there:rolleyes:Do you think the officer will bother to come out & see you:confused:There are hundred of similar cases happening at ICA everyday & they do not have to answerable to you, why reject, every application are all subject with their own merit.

Then wat u suggest to do ong gia?
Everyday they Follow rules blindly sometimes need someone to wake them up a bit. They think they ICA officer they big f? I had a few bad encounters with them, they totally have no customer service.

[SingViet]

i earn $1500 per month only leh...
hope LTVP is not a problem... just have to wait and wait

$1.5k monthly? you think we will believe? :D

[Hurricane88]

$1.5k monthly? you think we will believe? :D

Graduate earning 1.5k per month...like olden days son working for their old man on measly sum...:)

[casannova03]

you are absolutely correct..

This morning go apply further extension (already 2mths) for my bx again but was rejected as they claim that my doctor memo only state my bx expected delivery date. So I bring her see doctor and get a memo... the doctor only state that "my bx is xxxxx, travelling will make it worse... xxxx". This time go interview room. But again it was rejected. The Encik claimed that those Degree Holder officer reject it because the doctor did not certify and spell out the wording "unfit for travel" :mad:

I tell him straight.. I also degree holder, doctor also highly educated... ICA officer is stupid brainless degree holder. I stomp out.

LL... bx need to go back liao... will come back again for the gynea appointment in 2 weeks time... will be subjected to ICA screening again :(

Ask the degree holder officers to write a black and white to say that they think travelling will not make it worse as they are more "atas" than doctor!! Get them to seal, chop, sign on the letter saying from their experience, nothing will happen...

See which joker dare to stamp chop and sign on it:rolleyes::rolleyes:....

[casannova03]

Then wat u suggest to do ong gia?
Everyday they Follow rules blindly sometimes need someone to wake them up a bit. They think they ICA officer they big f? I had a few bad encounters with them, they totally have no customer service.


Nowadays, we have to make use of technology and also take advantage of garment's relaxation and willingness to listen to citizens....:D

WRITE LETTERS!!! soot them!!! get their names!! Get some english tok gong people to write a poetic piece to soot the officer up side-down..use sympathetic tones...make yourself the victim......then...

Send e-mail to as many people high up in the e-mail chain as possible....THIS you must do!! go FRIEND our PM on facebook...then go ask politely "Sir, why like that?.....life very hard for us poor citizens now genuine marriage also give people treat as sham marriage...life more tough with more cost for air tickets"...:D

Finallly send the e-mail to PMO (PM office), his PA will read thru 1st I think....at least exhaust all avenue and all possible ways....our new PM quite open to these I heard....:p

[Hurricane88]

Yes those "degree holders" all follow the rules blindly, follow till word for word. I have similar experiences with another ministry recently. My wife got some problems with her previous employer, we went MOM for help, lodged a case n they withhold my wife's passport without reason. Call a few times no one answer, was also told these type of cases will drag for 6 mths! :eek: a month passed but like no movement so fed up i went to see MP, but i see that MP letter not strong enough so i myself write letter go shoot to the minister. Then they start to look into the case n managed to see some movement n got some explaination. Now they agreed to release her passport back to her.


this was what you wrote last time...:confused:

No loh. U cant do that. They will still refer u back to yur MP. I tried that b4.

this is wat i meant last time...any voter can see the Minister Home Affairs for such request...sure if have not see MP then pls see him first...then with that letter you can see Minister if MP letter rejected...:)

I had helped in the past successfully appealed for quite a few couples...the letter must be written well...with love story and sadness...:)

anyway KT had been rejected so many times so why dun try...no harm ma...?????

[asdfghjkl]

Skybe, viber are quite clear... I am using it to talk to my business associates in Hanoi and HCMC.

yes.. i agree too.. using webcam is quite smooth from SG to HCMC. :o

[marcopit]

think you better consider thrice before you decide to marry her...in view of bro KT baxa LTSVP who earned higher than you...bro KT had so much problem trying to apply LTSVP and same for many bros recently...dun solve one problem then face another big problem...:)

Thanks Hurricane88 & naemlo for your advise/comments & concern. Let me overcome her parents demand first, i will take 1 step at a time :o

[Hurricane88]

Thanks Hurricane88 & naemlo for your advise/comments & concern. Let me overcome her parents demand first, i will take 1 step at a time :o

there are some case studies here...you better read them...cases whereby after marriage then wife threathened to go back to work as WL and also divorce...my advice is read up more...dun go blindly and nego...:)

[marcopit]

there are some case studies here...you better read them...cases whereby after marriage then wife threathened to go back to work as WL and also divorce...my advice is read up more...dun go blindly and nego...:)

Noted & Thanks

[vietboy]

Maybe you can show us the link in ICA which list down hospital that are trusted partner of ICA ....

Don't tell me the hospital mentioned in this link are ICA trusted partner??? This is only for registration of Birth ...

http://www.ica.gov.sg/page.aspx?pageid=186

Following should be the link on hospitals to register birth

http://www.ica.gov.sg/page.aspx?pageid=186

Yes, those hospital mentioned are all trusted partner to ICA

Please lah ong gia, u need to prescribe "lao hua" glasses? :rolleyes: that link u point me to is for REGISTER BIRTH written big big, for newborn babies to register BC in singkie. What KT is looking for is a reason for his wife to stay here and she not give birth yet, how to be in one of those hospitals listed?? :confused: Shysaint already mentioned, there is no mentioning on the ICA website that they are "trusted partner", u still post say they are....:rolleyes:

[vietboy]

good mah..Your wife go valid reason to stay
same as one of my bx sis. Her passport is held by ICA till now.
Recently, she also pregnant then ICA agree to continue look into the matter and release the passport. At the meantime my bx sis continue staying here.
So good.

your wife can too as long as u fight for it!
go see yur MP then go "shoot" to Home affairs minister. u will see some "movements".:D

[vietboy]

Love is blind... :D No point telling him when in honeymoon period.

Too many foreigners in SG with PR, LTVP or whatever visa, it is too crowded. These are the views from most S'porean but when comes to own wife, then we will question the govt why so difficult to get my wife a PR or even stay long term in SG?? :D Aren't SG a funny country to stay in?

yes too many foreigners in singkie. dun understand why the garmen allow ppl to come here to study, then allow them to work here, they get PR and bring their whole family and their parents here subsequently. Some even became garang guni men! And then garmen claimed these are "skilled" ppl. :rolleyes:

Have u guys noticed the chinese tend to get PR easier than vietnamese? my cousin married a chinese, not highly educated, don have much skills, my cousin applied PR after she come here for a few months and she got it on the 1st time. Same goes for another friend of mine. While vietnamese spouses have to apply and appeal a few times, some still cant get PR status.

[Hurricane88]

your wife can too as long as u fight for it!
go see yur MP then go "shoot" to Home affairs minister. u will see some "movements".:D

Home Affairs Minister is also DPM and maybe next PM...so quickly write to him...last time used to write to SMOS Ho P K will do...he retired roi...now MOS is a malay MP...:)

click here...http://app.sgdi.gov.sg/listing.asp?agency_subtype=dept&agency_id=0000000008

[KangTuo]

your wife can too as long as u fight for it!
go see yur MP then go "shoot" to Home affairs minister. u will see some "movements".:D

nevermind... let my bx go home this time round. Bought ticket liao.
i will get myself armed and fully prepared when she come back.
The only worry is going through the immigration screening again...
if H88 theory of 90 days stay for foreigner is correct, then my wife no need come back this year liao :eek:


anyway i also waiting for the LTVP approval... i was told to wait till August due to the Degree Holder officer efficiency

1st time feeling sad and worry for bx to go back vn :(

[vietboy]

Nowadays, we have to make use of technology and also take advantage of garment's relaxation and willingness to listen to citizens....:D

WRITE LETTERS!!! soot them!!! get their names!! Get some english tok gong people to write a poetic piece to soot the officer up side-down..use sympathetic tones...make yourself the victim......then...

Send e-mail to as many people high up in the e-mail chain as possible....THIS you must do!! go FRIEND our PM on facebook...then go ask politely "Sir, why like that?.....life very hard for us poor citizens now genuine marriage also give people treat as sham marriage...life more tough with more cost for air tickets"...:D

Finallly send the e-mail to PMO (PM office), his PA will read thru 1st I think....at least exhaust all avenue and all possible ways....our new PM quite open to these I heard....:p

yes agreed. especially now they more willing to listen to feedback from the ground.

[Hurricane88]

nevermind... let my bx go home this time round. Bought ticket liao.
i will get myself armed and fully prepared when she come back.
The only worry is going through the immigration screening again...
if H88 theory of 90 days stay for foreigner is correct, then my wife no need come back this year liao :eek:


anyway i also waiting for the LTVP approval... i was told to wait till August due to the Degree Holder officer efficiency

1st time feeling sad and worry for bx to go back vn :(

KT go see MP and tell him straight...if my bx dun get approved will vote for opposition in every election and you consider migrating to vn...:)

some of the MPs are really good for nothing...:)

[vietboy]

this was what you wrote last time...:confused:



this is wat i meant last time...any voter can see the Minister Home Affairs for such request...sure if have not see MP then pls see him first...then with that letter you can see Minister if MP letter rejected...:)

I had helped in the past successfully appealed for quite a few couples...the letter must be written well...with love story and sadness...:)

anyway KT had been rejected so many times so why dun try...no harm ma...?????

that is what i meant, if u have not see yur own MP, and u go straight see the minister during his "meet the ppl" session, u will be referred back to your own MP. I was told then to see my own MP first if cannot then write letter to the ministry.

yes, agreed with u. since KT got so much frustrations, pen it down in a letter to the minister. like u said no harm trying. KT, tml night go hm after work to write letter dun go out hunting. :D

[vietboy]

nevermind... let my bx go home this time round. Bought ticket liao.
i will get myself armed and fully prepared when she come back.
The only worry is going through the immigration screening again...
if H88 theory of 90 days stay for foreigner is correct, then my wife no need come back this year liao :eek:


anyway i also waiting for the LTVP approval... i was told to wait till August due to the Degree Holder officer efficiency

1st time feeling sad and worry for bx to go back vn :(

remember to photocopy yur ROM cert for yur bxa, her gynea appointment letter . so when she coming in and if (touch wood) kenna asked by the ICA officers at the airport, she got protection! and tell her to tell those ppl there that if in doubt or anything to call her husband i.e. u!:D

[vietboy]

KT go see MP and tell him straight...if my bx dun get approved will vote for opposition in every election and you consider migrating to vn...:)

some of the MPs are really good for nothing...:)

MPs now still ok lah, not like last time 3 elections back, those MPs can tell u: " aiya, its small matter lah, nver mind lah. Just do as they say loh. Nothing much i can do also." :eek:

[jklpoi]

just seen 1 yesterday... he use money bribe all the way to locate his gal way here in sillypore :eek:

drag her into taxi after she meet her below blk. bribe sillypore taxi driver drive all the way to ks. vb struggle, taxi driver also bo chap. reach ks81 in GL, bribe counter staff to let vb up even she no passport. in ks beat her her up (got knife somemore) till she too weak to struggle and have sex with vb, take video also...
after that dunno what liao but night time i need to go airport fetch the vb back while the vn guy wait for his morning flight back...

talk of the house now... all vb keep talking about the incident

Sounds very familiar. Did he slap her 3 times? and did the girl went to a hotel with customer before meeting him?

[elth]

Have u guys noticed the chinese tend to get PR easier than vietnamese? my cousin married a chinese, not highly educated, don have much skills, my cousin applied PR after she come here for a few months and she got it on the 1st time. Same goes for another friend of mine. While vietnamese spouses have to apply and appeal a few times, some still cant get PR status.

our gament now welcome PRC more...got po le tic related... :cool:



if H88 theory of 90 days stay for foreigner is correct, then my wife no need come back this year liao :eek:


I have heard and known Vbs come in sillypore more than 90 days per ear ... they told me it lucky :D

[naemlo]

Some even became garang guni men! And then garmen claimed these are "skilled" ppl. :rolleyes:

Welcome to SG, a paradise for foreigners..... The hawker center near my house are dominated by "skilled" PRC. Their food taste like shit. Maybe we dunno how to appreciate their skill. There was once I ordered Hor Fun, within 30 sec the food came. My friend and I were shocked.... knn the PRC just went to the kitchen, poured the sauce over the cold prepared hor fun and served to me. :eek:

[Covenant]

hmmm..saw the first few pages of the earlier posts and realised that i am quite lucky in terms of having a vietnam wife.

Most bros here are right that viet gals put their family ahead of everything. Last time when i gave my gf money to go back vietnam, she will always buy things like washing machines, water heater, curtains etc for the house. And she kept very little money for her own expenses.

And becos they have a culture of giving money to their elders and relatives' kids during new year even though they are not married but old enough to work and earn money, so basically maybe they have adopted this thinking of putting their family on top of the list.

Whenever i go back to her house in vietnam, and i see how she dotes on their family, i feel quite happy. Though not luxurious but at least manage to make their living slightly better.

And my mother in law is quite understanding too. She is working at a factory and maybe becos she had ever work in overseas, she tends to be more understanding. She doesnt ask much from me and just wan me to treat her daughter well. I even tried giving her $500 every mth for allowance but she rejected me and said she had enough as she is working.

So i guess i am quite lucky in this area. The mom even say that nowadays, its better for couple to work together and earn a living becos it will be quite hard if it was just the husband that is working only. But i dun think my wife can work during this period of time ba?

We have gone thru our traditional wedding in vietnam and this july we will be having our formal R.O.M in sg. hopefully everything goes well.

[shysaint]

3p days ... nevermind... let my bx go home this time round. Bought ticket liao.
i will get myself armed and fully prepared when she come back.
The only worry is going through the immigration screening again...
if H88 theory of 90 days stay for foreigner is correct, then my wife no need come back this year liao :eek:


anyway i also waiting for the LTVP approval... i was told to wait till August due to the Degree Holder officer efficiency

1st time feeling sad and worry for bx to go back vn :(

Still back to this length of stay in sg.

HH88 mentioned a few times on the 90 days .... For me I am sure my wife, gf then stay more than 130 days n tt's on 2009. From a bro posting , he mentioned not more than 180 days ..

Bro kt .... Since she already Rom in singapore, her entry should be ok. Remember ask her to bring along the marriage certificate during entry.

I did that n the best I did not buy her a return ticket. They asked n i replied I am applying her ltvp.

[shysaint]

Welcome to SG, a paradise for foreigners..... The hawker center near my house are dominated by "skilled" PRC. Their food taste like shit. Maybe we dunno how to appreciate their skill. There was once I ordered Hor Fun, within 30 sec the food came. My friend and I were shocked.... knn the PRC just went to the kitchen, poured the sauce over the cold prepared hor fun and served to me. :eek:

What about those who possessed the skills of driving n causes slot of accidents ?

[SingViet]

Bro KT case is more unique as his ba xa has been deported and banned for 3 years before. I think i did mention quite some time ago that although his ba xa has been allowed entry again, but to gain long term stay status will be quite tough. Its not possible that record is clean again, especially in Singapore . Maybe Bro KT can approach his MP for assistance as his family members has been active in grassroots activities .

[SingViet]

What about those who possessed the skills of driving n causes slot of accidents ?

Nowadays, PRC don't want to come singapore roi. Its the filipinos flocking here in large numbers .

[Golden question]

Just a quick check with bros here, how frequent does your bx call back vietnam to chat with her family member. I bought her a calling card with callback services & she used up almost S$70 per week so 1 month choked up additional S$280 on top of her singtel subscription, is it too much:mad:
I have been advicing her to use free internet call online but complaint poor
reception & distortion still prefer using callback services to call vietnam via her mobile phone. I purchased telcom 1515 services, any bros have cheaper callback service provider:p

wow,your u choked so much just for phone bill:eek:Not worth leh

My wife bought the singtel 128 cards,everytime top up $25.50 can make unlimited call to vietnam for 60 days

[Golden question]

yes too many foreigners in singkie. dun understand why the garmen allow ppl to come here to study, then allow them to work here, they get PR and bring their whole family and their parents here subsequently. Some even became garang guni men! And then garmen claimed these are "skilled" ppl. :rolleyes:

Have u guys noticed the chinese tend to get PR easier than vietnamese? my cousin married a chinese, not highly educated, don have much skills, my cousin applied PR after she come here for a few months and she got it on the 1st time. Same goes for another friend of mine. While vietnamese spouses have to apply and appeal a few times, some still cant get PR status.

china can send their people to space,can vietnam do that?
china is the 2nd largest economy in the whole world,can vietnam do that?
china now can borrow money to help euro economy,can vietnam do that?

Now chinese send 4 warship to patrol disputed china sea island and vietnamese can only shout slogan at hanoi street.

Now do u know why chinese tend to get PR easier than vietnamese already?

[KangTuo]

Sounds very familiar. Did he slap her 3 times? and did the girl went to a hotel with customer before meeting him?

no and no...
"sound familar" very scary... scarly i talk talk so much and maybe met someone i know outside this forum :eek:

just like few years back when i met singviet then know he is actually my schoolmate :eek:

[Blast88]

good mah..Your wife go valid reason to stay
same as one of my bx sis. Her passport is held by ICA till now.
Recently, she also pregnant then ICA agree to continue look into the matter and release the passport. At the meantime my bx sis continue staying here.
So good.



ICA = I Cannot Answer

Good definition:D

[KangTuo]

Bro kt .... Since she already Rom in singapore, her entry should be ok. Remember ask her to bring along the marriage certificate during entry.

i am always prepared for her entry to sillypore...
marriage cert, doctor appointment card, guarantor letter, photocopy id, form14, form 39v, rtn airtix.. all checked :D

[shysaint]

My wife bought the singtel 128 cards,everytime top up $25.50 can make unlimited call to vietnam for 60 days

UNLIMITED CALLS :eek: .. That's NEW to me ....

[Blast88]

Then wat u suggest to do ong gia?
Everyday they Follow rules blindly sometimes need someone to wake them up a bit. They think they ICA officer they big f? I had a few bad encounters with them, they totally have no customer service.

These is what all sillyporean are taught in school, just follow laws & all R&R, you need them more than they need you so what 'customer service' you are expecting:rolleyes:

[KangTuo]

Bro KT can approach his MP for assistance as his family members has been active in grassroots activities .

ssshhh.... family members not active lah...
i was active but now most active as grassroot of jc/gl

recently always do walk about at gl lorongs

[Blast88]

Nowadays, we have to make use of technology and also take advantage of garment's relaxation and willingness to listen to citizens....:D

WRITE LETTERS!!! soot them!!! get their names!! Get some english tok gong people to write a poetic piece to soot the officer up side-down..use sympathetic tones...make yourself the victim......then...

Send e-mail to as many people high up in the e-mail chain as possible....THIS you must do!! go FRIEND our PM on facebook...then go ask politely "Sir, why like that?.....life very hard for us poor citizens now genuine marriage also give people treat as sham marriage...life more tough with more cost for air tickets"...:D

Finallly send the e-mail to PMO (PM office), his PA will read thru 1st I think....at least exhaust all avenue and all possible ways....our new PM quite open to these I heard....:p

Then he will response, he have more important National Agenda to attend 1st before looking into your problems, it might take a few year:D

[KangTuo]

hmmm..saw the first few pages of the earlier posts and realised that i am quite lucky in terms of having a vietnam wife.

We have gone thru our traditional wedding in vietnam and this july we will be having our formal R.O.M in sg. hopefully everything goes well.

congrats
i am also lucky to have a good bx... just some minor brushes with ICA in the past.

[elth]

wow,your u choked so much just for phone bill:eek:Not worth leh

My wife bought the singtel 128 cards,everytime top up $25.50 can make unlimited call to vietnam for 60 days

UNLIMITED CALLS :eek: .. That's NEW to me ....

unlimited call :confused::eek:

[Golden question]

UNLIMITED CALLS :eek: .. That's NEW to me ....

My wife told me,if u want to confirm, i double check with her

[jackbl]

my friend using M1 prepaid told me after 9pm the call rates is cheaper can go check at M1 website. my friend spend about $90-100 per mth average

for me I using Chatchat... the value is $10 per card but some shop they are selling at $8 so got extra $2 (most shop in GL sell $8 if not bargin with the shop)

Calling VN http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showpost.php?p=4984694&postcount=5549

[Blast88]

Please lah ong gia, u need to prescribe "lao hua" glasses? :rolleyes: that link u point me to is for REGISTER BIRTH written big big, for newborn babies to register BC in singkie. What KT is looking for is a reason for his wife to stay here and she not give birth yet, how to be in one of those hospitals listed?? :confused: Shysaint already mentioned, there is no mentioning on the ICA website that they are "trusted partner", u still post say they are....:rolleyes:

Before my bx give birth, she do her pre-delivery follow up all at KKH & our gynea there will help her to write letter whenever she faces ICA issues & make sure she have a smooth delivery with a peace of mind. Bros out there with little oc born in s'pore, sure to come across this term 'trusted partner', it might be in KKH website.:)

[Golden question]

Then he will response, he have more important National Agenda to attend 1st before looking into your problems, it might take a few year

ya ya,i bo eng lah,give me problem,go outside steal eat for what,then kana caught,then i have to call ppl to vote again,my national agenda more important leh.

All this personal things like marry foreigner,dont come and disturb me lah,who ask u all to go marry foreign woman?sg woman not good enough meh?

haha :D:D:D:D

[Blast88]

nevermind... let my bx go home this time round. Bought ticket liao.
i will get myself armed and fully prepared when she come back.
The only worry is going through the immigration screening again...
if H88 theory of 90 days stay for foreigner is correct, then my wife no need come back this year liao :eek:


anyway i also waiting for the LTVP approval... i was told to wait till August due to the Degree Holder officer efficiency

1st time feeling sad and worry for bx to go back vn :(

Yes, the correct term should be 'fully prepared' all required documentation. I remember when I apply ltvp for my bx, want her school cert, family cert, birth cert, all don't have so just fill in some paper declared don't have still got her ltvp

[jackbl]

if H88 theory of 90 days stay for foreigner is correct, then my wife no need come back this year liao :eek:

Ask her to carry the ROM cert when she goes thru the immigration :)

[jackbl]

My wife bought the singtel 128 cards,everytime top up $25.50 can make unlimited call to vietnam for 60 days

Sure??? Can explain more? Lidat I wan to buy too :)

[Blast88]

wow,your u choked so much just for phone bill:eek:Not worth leh

My wife bought the singtel 128 cards,everytime top up $25.50 can make unlimited call to vietnam for 60 days

As she using the callback service, so basically incoming is free so that make her have more reason to cook 'phone porridge':mad:

[Golden question]

Sure??? Can explain more? Lidat I wan to buy too :)

u all wait wait,let me ask her and confirm again first,u guys ask until like that makes me stress leh,if not unlimited call,then i sure f by u all :p:D

[elth]

my friend using M1 prepaid told me after 9pm the call rates is cheaper can go check at M1 website. my friend spend about $90-100 per mth average

for me I using Chatchat... the value is $10 per card but some shop they are selling at $8 so got extra $2 (most shop in GL sell $8 if not bargin with the shop)

but if you are calling everyday how cheap the rates also no use... must have self control :D

Calling VN http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showpost.php?p=4984694&postcount=5549

btw my friend also told me for M1 if you top up using credit card online there will be some additional credits given :D

[jf66312]

u all wait wait,let me ask her and confirm again first,u guys ask until like that makes me stress leh,if not unlimited call,then i sure f by u all :p:D

cfm tio f...hehe... :p

[jackbl]

if not unlimited call,then i sure f by u all

Then u go back tell her, u are fxxx by us, next time cannot anyhow say things that are untrue (BTW, vietnamese are lidat, hearsay become genuine fact)

[jackbl]

u all wait wait,let me ask her and confirm again first,u guys ask until like that makes me stress leh,if not unlimited call,then i sure f by u all

cfm tio f...hehe... :p

If it is unlimited, I will give him 9 reputation points :p

http://info.singtel.com/personal/communication/mobile/prepaid-plans/prepaid-mobile/top-ups

SUPER HOT$128
For Users with High IDD, Local Calls & Data usage
Get $128 worth of value for just $28:

•Enjoy $100 Local Talktime, SMS and MMS/Data
•$28 IDD Talktime and Global SMS
•Value valid for 50 days
•Bundled value will rollover when you top-up within 50 days

[Blast88]

Congratulation to TS thread breaking 1000 pages milestone, keep it up & strong growing:)

[shysaint]

My wife told me,if u want to confirm, i double check with her

Yeah please ... thats will definitely helps .. :D

[shysaint]

sure to come across this term 'trusted partner', it might be in KKH website.:)

It's just a term ... if u think it's term it under "Trusted Partner" ... then it will be ... chin chai la

[Golden question]

Then u go back tell her, u are fxxx by us, next time cannot anyhow say things that are untrue (BTW, vietnamese are lidat, hearsay become genuine fact)

Dont have the chance to talk to her yet.If is true that there is no unlimited,then is not her fault cos she always tell me a lot of credit inside,so she call and call or else after the expiry date,is confiscated.So maybe my mind is that is unlimited,my apology if there is no unlimited:o

[shysaint]

u all wait wait,let me ask her and confirm again first,u guys ask until like that makes me stress leh,if not unlimited call,then i sure f by u all :p:D

SURE .. very SURE ... 1st 1 SURE by me .... My knowledge and research cannot be so bad ... :D:rolleyes:

[shysaint]

If it is unlimited, I will give him 9 reputation points :p

http://info.singtel.com/personal/communication/mobile/prepaid-plans/prepaid-mobile/top-ups

SUPER HOT$128
For Users with High IDD, Local Calls & Data usage
Get $128 worth of value for just $28:

•Enjoy $100 Local Talktime, SMS and MMS/Data
•$28 IDD Talktime and Global SMS
•Value valid for 50 days
•Bundled value will rollover when you top-up within 50 days

ssssssshhhhhh ... let him come back to us 1st :D

[Golden question]

ssssssshhhhhh ... let him come back to us 1st :D

Nvm lah,i let u all f me first lah,maybe she also want u guys to f me because i message her,she no reply,call also no reply,so is fated i have to f by u all:eek:

[jf66312]

Nvm lah,i let u all f me first lah,maybe she also want u guys to f me because i message her,she no reply,call also no reply,so is fated i have to f by u all:eek:

hehe..then u go back & "make love " to her...dont say we never help u create chance hor... :)

bro shysaint - must use make love right...cannot use f***, that will be too crude... :p

[jackbl]

ssssssshhhhhh ... let him come back to us 1st :D

my apology if there is no unlimited:o

Nvm lah,i let u all f me first lah,maybe she also want u guys to f me because i message her,she no reply,call also no reply,so is fated i have to f by u all:eek:

Dun apologise here. Please setup a meeting session in the afternoon in a weekday so that we explain to u the best way to call vn. All soft drinks on u!

[Blast88]

It's just a term ... if u think it's term it under "Trusted Partner" ... then it will be ... chin chai la

I'm always 'chin chai' but I just don't want to bros here to have a mind set I'm furnishing 'unconfirmed' information & end up kana 'blast' like bro GQ:p

[SingViet]

Congratulation to TS thread breaking 1000 pages milestone, keep it up & strong growing:)

Thank You, cam on... bros, keep up the good work :D

[shysaint]

I'm always 'chin chai' but I just don't want to bros here to have a mind set I'm furnishing 'unconfirmed' information & end up kana 'blast' like bro GQ:p

That's why different BROs have difference experiences ... different knowledge ... different way of perceiving things/infos & etc ... different way if interpreting infos ...

It's will advantageous to bring out ... share and learn ... some make put in a way people dun like ... some may talk big ... some maybe fictatious . some maybe by clones who spiced up the thread ...

Some people maybe affected .. some people may not .... sometimes one may not get the response they one because we do not know you and only based on your sharing ...

sometimes we TCSS/big big/chak here and there ... becasue most of us know each other for some time ...

[SingViet]

My wife make frequent phonecalls to VN, so i got her 2 M1 lines, 1 with 700 mins free airtime, so 2 lines is 1400 mins. Plus all my other lines, add up still have 35% discount. 1400 mins less than $180 per month. I am not used to using phonecards, i need just dial and can connect roi :D