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02-12-2016, 12:50 AM
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Hello,
[Full article]
http://blog.chinadaily.com.cn/blog-2497357-37460.html
Nobel laureate Chen-Ning Yang released an article on WeChat expressing his views that China should not build the world's largest particle collider.
http://intlpress.sinaapp.com/blog/essay.php?id=5
David Gross, a foreign member of the Chinese Academy of Science, responded to Dr.Yang's comment on:
High-energy physics produced any "tangible benefits" to society?
Quote:
Yes! Even taking an extremely narrow view of this question, the technologies directly springing from particle physics have spawned huge industries that generate revenues far exceeding the magnitude of the investment in basic science. The multi-billion dollar accelerator industry, operating thousands of small-scale particle accelerators around the world ranging from light sources, to medical accelerators for cancer-fighting radiation therapies, owes its existence to particle physics. And the need for powerful magnets at proton colliders necessitated the development of superconducting magnet technology, itself a billion dollar industry, which are the critical component for MRI machines, a five billion dollar industry.
David Gross, being a physicists, seems to not know much about economics. You can hypothetically create a "billion dollar industries" from a huge unused mountain and you spend billions moving it back and forth between two locations - repeatedly ad infinitum. Surely, billion dollar secondary industries may arise around new technologies for moving mountains around "better and faster" giving larger revenues - they somehow would still end up to be of some use somewhere.
CERN's particle physics is all fictitious. Unbelievable but true. Should anyone build super particle collider machines where purported proton energy of 6.5 x 10¹² eV has real energy of 470 x 10⁶ eV - off by a factor of 15,000!
Best regards,
Chan Rasjid,
http://www.emc2fails.com
Click here to view the whole thread at www.sammyboy.com (http://www.sammyboy.com/showthread.php?238438-Coming-Soon!-China-s-World-Greatest-White-Elephant-Particle-Collider&goto=newpost).
Hello,
[Full article]
http://blog.chinadaily.com.cn/blog-2497357-37460.html
Nobel laureate Chen-Ning Yang released an article on WeChat expressing his views that China should not build the world's largest particle collider.
http://intlpress.sinaapp.com/blog/essay.php?id=5
David Gross, a foreign member of the Chinese Academy of Science, responded to Dr.Yang's comment on:
High-energy physics produced any "tangible benefits" to society?
Quote:
Yes! Even taking an extremely narrow view of this question, the technologies directly springing from particle physics have spawned huge industries that generate revenues far exceeding the magnitude of the investment in basic science. The multi-billion dollar accelerator industry, operating thousands of small-scale particle accelerators around the world ranging from light sources, to medical accelerators for cancer-fighting radiation therapies, owes its existence to particle physics. And the need for powerful magnets at proton colliders necessitated the development of superconducting magnet technology, itself a billion dollar industry, which are the critical component for MRI machines, a five billion dollar industry.
David Gross, being a physicists, seems to not know much about economics. You can hypothetically create a "billion dollar industries" from a huge unused mountain and you spend billions moving it back and forth between two locations - repeatedly ad infinitum. Surely, billion dollar secondary industries may arise around new technologies for moving mountains around "better and faster" giving larger revenues - they somehow would still end up to be of some use somewhere.
CERN's particle physics is all fictitious. Unbelievable but true. Should anyone build super particle collider machines where purported proton energy of 6.5 x 10¹² eV has real energy of 470 x 10⁶ eV - off by a factor of 15,000!
Best regards,
Chan Rasjid,
http://www.emc2fails.com
Click here to view the whole thread at www.sammyboy.com (http://www.sammyboy.com/showthread.php?238438-Coming-Soon!-China-s-World-Greatest-White-Elephant-Particle-Collider&goto=newpost).