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22-07-2015, 05:10 PM
An honorable member of the Coffee Shop Has Just Posted the Following:
The grassroots leader “resigned” from his post but going by the u/m post on Facebook, Khaw and Nair should take responsibility Japanese style (something Khaw, who asked the WP’s leaders to commit hara kiri over the issues at their town council**. and the PAP – think ESM — advocate when it doesn’t involve a PAPpy or a scholar:
https://atans1.wordpress.com/2011/03...le-leh-elites/ (https://atans1.wordpress.com/2011/03/14/learn-from-japanese-set-example-leh-elites/)
https://atans1.wordpress.com/2011/03...ush-yr-agenda/ (https://atans1.wordpress.com/2011/03/15/pap-pls-do-not-use-tragedy-to-push-yr-agenda/))
I was in grassroots from 1992 til mid 2008.. I held positions ranging from Exco, Secretary, Treasurer n Auditor.. If the cc n the adviser were doing their respective jobs.. This cannot happen.. We needed to submit reports, accounts n statements for everything.. We had only certain banks which we could deposit our monies into n a minimum of two signatures was ALWAYS required.. We were always fearful of being audited and found to be dishonest n so we would work into the night to ensure our submissions were fit for clearance.. To be fair we had access to plenty of training as to how to discharge our various duties n so I’m shocked .. As for the monies involved.. We had a balance of several tens of thousands n a monthly accounts of several thousands.. We not only ran several classes n day care (and we were not even that busy or aggressive) and we could bank in some hundreds every month easily. And we also used to receive funds from the various affiliates n grassroots organizations n eve the near by temple would donate funds for community events. Also the monies involved are not surprising for Why do you think the PA’s annual budget is so huge.. I quit coz I got disillusioned with the grassroots.. I felt I was no longer serving my residents but the .. Ahhh but then that’s another story..
*please note that this sharing is based to the best of my recollection and it’s not meant to disparage anyone fingered and I don’t in any way mean to cast aspersions on those folks especially since they’ve resigned :) WAhahahahahah :)
What the post implies is that if Vikram and Khaw had been “on the ball” in carrying out their duties, the incident should not have arisen. It was a failure of the managers, not a system failure.
They also have to take responsibility for not ensuring that staff were trained to follow the “right” procedures. CNA reported that only after the report was released, did staff and volunteers at Admiralty CCC familiarise themselves with the financial procedures.
Again if Khaw and Vikram had been more on the ball … But let’s be fair to both of them. Vikram may still be suffering from the after-effects of drinking water from the tank where an FT went swimming and drowned, polluting the water supply of residents. And Khaw had a lot of work recently:
– Fernvale
– Fixing the WP
– Mourner in chief
– GE planning.
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*Mr Khaw, who is also National Development Minister, said Admiralty CCC fully cooperated with the People’s Association investigation Panel. The report highlighted that the CCC chairman had awarded two contracts worth S$32,000 to a company at which he was linked to. He had also approved S$114,767 of his own claims.
The grassroots leader involved has stepped down and Mr Khaw said he was “glad” the Investigation Panel found no evidence of dishonesty.
Mr Nair said he was “saddened” to learn of the findings and said the grassroots leader concerned has served with distinction for many years. ”I am relieved to note that there was no dishonesty found on his part by the investigation,” he said.
The PA said the non-declaration of conflict of interest is a serious lapse and that the staff involved have been reprimanded.
- (CNA)
**Ok, OK I exaggerate.
http://www.tremeritus.com/2015/07/22...mit-hari-kiri/ (http://www.tremeritus.com/2015/07/22/why-khaw-vikram-need-to-commit-hari-kiri/)
Click here to view the whole thread at www.sammyboy.com (http://sammyboy.com/showthread.php?210927-Why-Khaw-Vikram-need-to-commit-hara-kiri&goto=newpost).
The grassroots leader “resigned” from his post but going by the u/m post on Facebook, Khaw and Nair should take responsibility Japanese style (something Khaw, who asked the WP’s leaders to commit hara kiri over the issues at their town council**. and the PAP – think ESM — advocate when it doesn’t involve a PAPpy or a scholar:
https://atans1.wordpress.com/2011/03...le-leh-elites/ (https://atans1.wordpress.com/2011/03/14/learn-from-japanese-set-example-leh-elites/)
https://atans1.wordpress.com/2011/03...ush-yr-agenda/ (https://atans1.wordpress.com/2011/03/15/pap-pls-do-not-use-tragedy-to-push-yr-agenda/))
I was in grassroots from 1992 til mid 2008.. I held positions ranging from Exco, Secretary, Treasurer n Auditor.. If the cc n the adviser were doing their respective jobs.. This cannot happen.. We needed to submit reports, accounts n statements for everything.. We had only certain banks which we could deposit our monies into n a minimum of two signatures was ALWAYS required.. We were always fearful of being audited and found to be dishonest n so we would work into the night to ensure our submissions were fit for clearance.. To be fair we had access to plenty of training as to how to discharge our various duties n so I’m shocked .. As for the monies involved.. We had a balance of several tens of thousands n a monthly accounts of several thousands.. We not only ran several classes n day care (and we were not even that busy or aggressive) and we could bank in some hundreds every month easily. And we also used to receive funds from the various affiliates n grassroots organizations n eve the near by temple would donate funds for community events. Also the monies involved are not surprising for Why do you think the PA’s annual budget is so huge.. I quit coz I got disillusioned with the grassroots.. I felt I was no longer serving my residents but the .. Ahhh but then that’s another story..
*please note that this sharing is based to the best of my recollection and it’s not meant to disparage anyone fingered and I don’t in any way mean to cast aspersions on those folks especially since they’ve resigned :) WAhahahahahah :)
What the post implies is that if Vikram and Khaw had been “on the ball” in carrying out their duties, the incident should not have arisen. It was a failure of the managers, not a system failure.
They also have to take responsibility for not ensuring that staff were trained to follow the “right” procedures. CNA reported that only after the report was released, did staff and volunteers at Admiralty CCC familiarise themselves with the financial procedures.
Again if Khaw and Vikram had been more on the ball … But let’s be fair to both of them. Vikram may still be suffering from the after-effects of drinking water from the tank where an FT went swimming and drowned, polluting the water supply of residents. And Khaw had a lot of work recently:
– Fernvale
– Fixing the WP
– Mourner in chief
– GE planning.
———
*Mr Khaw, who is also National Development Minister, said Admiralty CCC fully cooperated with the People’s Association investigation Panel. The report highlighted that the CCC chairman had awarded two contracts worth S$32,000 to a company at which he was linked to. He had also approved S$114,767 of his own claims.
The grassroots leader involved has stepped down and Mr Khaw said he was “glad” the Investigation Panel found no evidence of dishonesty.
Mr Nair said he was “saddened” to learn of the findings and said the grassroots leader concerned has served with distinction for many years. ”I am relieved to note that there was no dishonesty found on his part by the investigation,” he said.
The PA said the non-declaration of conflict of interest is a serious lapse and that the staff involved have been reprimanded.
- (CNA)
**Ok, OK I exaggerate.
http://www.tremeritus.com/2015/07/22...mit-hari-kiri/ (http://www.tremeritus.com/2015/07/22/why-khaw-vikram-need-to-commit-hari-kiri/)
Click here to view the whole thread at www.sammyboy.com (http://sammyboy.com/showthread.php?210927-Why-Khaw-Vikram-need-to-commit-hara-kiri&goto=newpost).