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12-04-2015, 11:20 AM
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My previous post discussed the pros and cons on forgiving the wrong doers. The generous and kind would want to forgive and let the asshole go in peace with a lesser sense of guilt. Those who were hurt badly would find it difficult to forgive and would not want to forgive. It would be too easy for the asshole after what he had done to the victims.
Is there a case against forgiving? Forgiving a child is easy for the child did not know what he has done. Ignorance or innocence could be a reason to forgive when there is no intent or not knowing the harm that could be inflicted on the other party. But when the asshole is a smart ass, knowing very well what he was doing and the pain inflicted, why should the asshole be forgiven? Why must the victim be the generous and kind one, to take the whacking and to let the asshole go free?
There are many instances of assholes bullying, taunting and torturing their victims right before our eyes. And the arrogance, the abuse of power and position and wealth to oppress, to hurt, to ridicule, to bankrupt or to put people behind bars, all done with a clear intent to harm the victim, why should the asshole be forgiven? There is another way of looking at this. A politician is like a man in ‘Jiang Hu’, 人在江湖，生不由己，he just had to do it knowing very well the consequences or it is ‘you die or I die’. So be it. I think this is bull. Modern day politics in a civilized society should be civil.
Another point, why forgive when the asshole did not see anything wrong in what he did? And why forgive when the asshole did not even ask to be forgiven? When the asshole is repentant, remorseful, and regretted for what he had done, and come begging for forgiveness, there is a case to forgive, to be kind and generous.
Why forgive an asshole that may even call you daft or silly to forgive him and may want to shit on you one more time if given the chance and walk away strutting around like a vain cock, telling the world how clever he is?
And for those assholes that are still cocky like hell, and seeing all the pleas to forgive but still go about bullying others, ridiculing others and harassing their victims, let there be no forgiveness when their turn come. They know, they knew what they were doing and what they are in for. Live by the sword die by the sword, like a man. There shall be no mercy to the evil and wicked, especially the very clever ones.
God also believes so. He said he would come, one day, to judge and would judge fairly. The evil ones would be burnt in the sea of fire. No amount of confession or forgiveness would save him. Many clever ones do not believe in such nonsense or they would not be doing what they did.
There is another big reason not to forgive when politicians are wicked. They are not supposed to, and there is no good reason to be so. The first premise of going into politics is to serve the people, to do good for the people. Another person or party too has the same idea, to do good and to serve the people. What is so wrong, so objectionable and unforgiveable for another person or party to step out to want to serve the people that they must be destroyed? They may have different ideas and ways to serve the people and it is up to the people to choose or reject them.
There is no good reason to what them dead, to want to crush them like cockroaches at every opportunity. What is there to be so cruel and wicked, to adamantly want to harm them for wanting to serve the people, to want to fix them? They are just like you, to serve the people. They are not gangsters out to kill. Politicians are not gangsters, right?
Going into politics is an altruistic endeavour. Going into politics is not about grabbing power, for personal glory and interests, to destroy other people who want to do the same and not allowing them do serve the people. Why is it necessary then to destroy other people who also want to do good? It simply means that the intention is not altruism but personal, about protecting selfish interest, power and glory.
For this reason, there should not be forgiveness as the intent is not good, not about serving the people but self serving. You are depriving the people from being served by better men and women with better ideas.
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My previous post discussed the pros and cons on forgiving the wrong doers. The generous and kind would want to forgive and let the asshole go in peace with a lesser sense of guilt. Those who were hurt badly would find it difficult to forgive and would not want to forgive. It would be too easy for the asshole after what he had done to the victims.
Is there a case against forgiving? Forgiving a child is easy for the child did not know what he has done. Ignorance or innocence could be a reason to forgive when there is no intent or not knowing the harm that could be inflicted on the other party. But when the asshole is a smart ass, knowing very well what he was doing and the pain inflicted, why should the asshole be forgiven? Why must the victim be the generous and kind one, to take the whacking and to let the asshole go free?
There are many instances of assholes bullying, taunting and torturing their victims right before our eyes. And the arrogance, the abuse of power and position and wealth to oppress, to hurt, to ridicule, to bankrupt or to put people behind bars, all done with a clear intent to harm the victim, why should the asshole be forgiven? There is another way of looking at this. A politician is like a man in ‘Jiang Hu’, 人在江湖，生不由己，he just had to do it knowing very well the consequences or it is ‘you die or I die’. So be it. I think this is bull. Modern day politics in a civilized society should be civil.
Another point, why forgive when the asshole did not see anything wrong in what he did? And why forgive when the asshole did not even ask to be forgiven? When the asshole is repentant, remorseful, and regretted for what he had done, and come begging for forgiveness, there is a case to forgive, to be kind and generous.
Why forgive an asshole that may even call you daft or silly to forgive him and may want to shit on you one more time if given the chance and walk away strutting around like a vain cock, telling the world how clever he is?
And for those assholes that are still cocky like hell, and seeing all the pleas to forgive but still go about bullying others, ridiculing others and harassing their victims, let there be no forgiveness when their turn come. They know, they knew what they were doing and what they are in for. Live by the sword die by the sword, like a man. There shall be no mercy to the evil and wicked, especially the very clever ones.
God also believes so. He said he would come, one day, to judge and would judge fairly. The evil ones would be burnt in the sea of fire. No amount of confession or forgiveness would save him. Many clever ones do not believe in such nonsense or they would not be doing what they did.
There is another big reason not to forgive when politicians are wicked. They are not supposed to, and there is no good reason to be so. The first premise of going into politics is to serve the people, to do good for the people. Another person or party too has the same idea, to do good and to serve the people. What is so wrong, so objectionable and unforgiveable for another person or party to step out to want to serve the people that they must be destroyed? They may have different ideas and ways to serve the people and it is up to the people to choose or reject them.
There is no good reason to what them dead, to want to crush them like cockroaches at every opportunity. What is there to be so cruel and wicked, to adamantly want to harm them for wanting to serve the people, to want to fix them? They are just like you, to serve the people. They are not gangsters out to kill. Politicians are not gangsters, right?
Going into politics is an altruistic endeavour. Going into politics is not about grabbing power, for personal glory and interests, to destroy other people who want to do the same and not allowing them do serve the people. Why is it necessary then to destroy other people who also want to do good? It simply means that the intention is not altruism but personal, about protecting selfish interest, power and glory.
For this reason, there should not be forgiveness as the intent is not good, not about serving the people but self serving. You are depriving the people from being served by better men and women with better ideas.
http://mysingaporenews.blogspot.sg/2...ingapore+News) (http://mysingaporenews.blogspot.sg/2015/04/case-against-forgiving.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+MySingaporeNews+(My+Singapore+N ews))
Click here to view the whole thread at www.sammyboy.com (http://sammyboy.com/showthread.php?204619-Red-Bean-Why-we-should-not-forgive&goto=newpost).