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legswideopen
03-04-2015, 06:52 AM
A little introduction...
I was an escort for a little while previously. When I approached the agency, I thought it would really be more like an escort companion (a date followed by play time) instead of just straight up wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am sex.
Long story short, I was sick of being under-compensated by my agent (think, me collecting 1.5k, but have to transfer 1k to them). Also, there were more than a couple of bad clients that I had to face - pushy about not using condoms, asking me for more time without paying, etc. One guy asked if he could spit on me (like you know how a certain group of FTs do?), I refused, but he did it anyway. Suffice it to say, I was quite traumatised by the lack of respect I was getting. Yes, I was being paid, but I am still human after all.
Thus started my foray into sugaring. I created a profile on a sugar website, and the messages came pouring in almost immediately. Personally, I find talking about money tacky - my expectations are clearly stated on my profile, and if they were messaging me, surely they have read my profile first, right? Wrong.
There were the lowballers ("$300 overnight for a test run?" Dude, you think this is Groupon 90% off?) Perhaps my expectations were high because of my knowledge of the FL scene. Such lowballers were absolutely abhorrent and repulsive to me. Really guys, if you can't afford a SB, don't get a SB.
And then there were the meet ups with potentials....
discreeted
03-04-2015, 11:46 AM
setting up a tent here.... :D
MrNiow
03-04-2015, 11:55 AM
Yes I know its quite common for FL to go do SB once their money issue settle.
MrBlueSexy
03-04-2015, 12:01 PM
Yes I know its quite common for FL to go do SB once their money issue settle.
From FL come to SB :eek:
No wonder that I had met up other potential SBs, but they limited the meetup to max 1-2 hours per meet :confused:, which turned me off
Then it looked like no more different between FL and SB.
(SB said they would be only for you, but not sure what happened behind)
WOOHOO
03-04-2015, 12:55 PM
From FL come to SB :eek:
No wonder that I had met up other potential SBs, but they limited the meetup to max 1-2 hours per meet :confused:, which turned me off
Then it looked like no more different between FL and SB.
(SB said they would be only for you, but not sure what happened behind)
wah still being sng sng ah??
you know the difference meh??? tot you dunno? or same same one???
kekekeke sibei funny leh you lol kekekekeke
MrBlueSexy
03-04-2015, 01:32 PM
wah still being sng sng ah??
you know the difference meh??? tot you dunno? or same same one???
kekekeke sibei funny leh you lol kekekekeke
I was in confusion before.
But I know the difference now :)
Hopefully my Vitamin M recovered soon !
jason_
03-04-2015, 01:36 PM
From FL come to SB :eek:
No wonder that I had met up other potential SBs, but they limited the meetup to max 1-2 hours per meet :confused:, which turned me off
Then it looked like no more different between FL and SB.
(SB said they would be only for you, but not sure what happened behind)
i think you miss the part most applicable to you... if cannot afford sb, stay away.
furritales
03-04-2015, 03:24 PM
looking forward to TS stories ;)
postmortem
03-04-2015, 03:39 PM
A little introduction...
I was an escort for a little while previously. When I approached the agency, I thought it would really be more like an escort companion (a date followed by play time) instead of just straight up wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am sex.
* Pitching tent *
Please continue!
legswideopen
03-04-2015, 06:32 PM
To me, the difference between a FL and SB is quite ambiguous. Same same but different, you know? I will say that if you are looking for exclusivity, then you should be prepared to pay for it. $15-20k should not be surprising. Think of it as "retainer".
If a SD only wants 1-2 meet ups a week (which seems to be the norm), they usually are only willing to fork out 3-5k max. Full time sugars who don't have a supplementary income will obviously be dating others, thus getting a reasonable sum per month (hair, nails, clothes, etc to keep us looking good don't come free).
The difference of course is that we are paid to date, not fuck. SDs usually emphasize on having chemistry and companionship. As a girl I feel more comfortable with this arrangement as well. I do enjoy dating older men, but I am getting paid to compensate for the fact that this will never amount to anything more. Feelings may develop, and there is nothing wrong with that as long as both parties understand the ephemeral nature of the relationship.
Other SBs may think differently. Everyone has their own MO :)
Elstrom
03-04-2015, 08:27 PM
Love ur nick...
clustertrinket
03-04-2015, 08:34 PM
hmmm... this confession sounds quite realistic. actually many FLs are trying to convert to be SBs :p
Absolutely agree.
Kee chiu! I also want to be a sb! I want to know what is it like to be for one man only! Money 随便你说啦! But sex drive n chemistry can match? :D
MrBlueSexy
03-04-2015, 10:00 PM
Just wonder why TS creates a new nickname.
It is not necessary, right ?
hawkace
03-04-2015, 11:28 PM
*Camped*
Waiting....
legswideopen
04-04-2015, 01:10 AM
Just wonder why TS creates a new nickname.
It is not necessary, right ?
Hi, I created a nick because I have never had a nick... Just a long time lurker in the forum.
Replies are a tad slow as I'm still being moderated... Sorry...
zinedine zidane
04-04-2015, 01:36 AM
Maybe TS post in wrong section, shld post this juicy story at Adult Discussions. Meanwhile, pls do carry on yr story. Uncle waiting here.... :D
zinedine zidane
04-04-2015, 01:37 AM
Hi, I created a nick because I have never had a nick... Just a long time lurker in the forum.
Replies are a tad slow as I'm still being moderated... Sorry...
Just post more, once u reach 10 postings evrything opens up just like your nick :p
TehOping
04-04-2015, 02:44 AM
there seems to be alot of cheapo sd wannabes here. back then when i was looking for sd i encountered the same thing as you :( want to pay 2k only but want to see me 5x a week (WUT?!) laughed until wanna die..
share more stories ts!
postmortem
04-04-2015, 03:54 AM
To me, the difference between a FL and SB is quite ambiguous. Same same but different, you know? I will say that if you are looking for exclusivity, then you should be prepared to pay for it. $15-20k should not be surprising. Think of it as "retainer".
If a SD only wants 1-2 meet ups a week (which seems to be the norm), they usually are only willing to fork out 3-5k max. Full time sugars who don't have a supplementary income will obviously be dating others, thus getting a reasonable sum per month (hair, nails, clothes, etc to keep us looking good don't come free).
The difference of course is that we are paid to date, not fuck. SDs usually emphasize on having chemistry and companionship. As a girl I feel more comfortable with this arrangement as well. I do enjoy dating older men, but I am getting paid to compensate for the fact that this will never amount to anything more. Feelings may develop, and there is nothing wrong with that as long as both parties understand the ephemeral nature of the relationship.
Other SBs may think differently. Everyone has their own MO :)
I must say you're pretty accurate in your assessment, coming from the perspective of an SD myself. I've encountered genuine SBs willing to be 100% exclusive and willing to spend as many days as they can with the SD, sex and companionship and everything included but they never come cheap. Personally had SBs offering me prices ranging from $10K to $50K. I've heard of some model SBs going at $100K but unverified.
$4K to $5K is reasonable for SYT offering one meetup per week. If SYT SB is willing to go below $3.5K, I would be quite skeptical. Either doesn't know her worth, or too desperate to seal a deal, or is trying to scam.
You're right, companionship is the reason why SDs want to get SBs. Or at least I am talking from my POV. Otherwise I can just look for an escort right? So chemistry has to be right from the start, as you've said. To me sex is really secondary. Dozens of babes listed on the FL Dome everyday, sex can easily be found. A good companion - much harder to find.
Do continue your personal stories! Starting a bonfire now and bringing the in the marshmallows and toaster!
MaleHost
04-04-2015, 06:20 AM
TS if looking at $15k to $20k per month, really cannot be selective. those able to afford are few and rare, and those able and also willing to pay for it are even more rare. the customer is king, you cannot be choosy as there will be many ready to elbow you to take the place. you cannot dictate the terms too, or else you will not be chosen when there are others willing to accept any terms.
just to quote an example, at $15k to $20k per month, possible that the sugardaddy will not want to wear condom, i guess TS is prepared to go raw besides being exclusive to the sugardaddy. before that, TS also must submit health check document showing she does not have sex diseases too.
MaleHost
04-04-2015, 06:43 AM
there seems to be alot of cheapo sd wannabes here. back then when i was looking for sd i encountered the same thing as you :( want to pay 2k only but want to see me 5x a week (WUT?!) laughed until wanna die..
share more stories ts!
well, consider working and earning your own income then. 9am to 5pm, five days a week, face deadlines and office politics from colleagues and superiors and subordinates. and depending on your qualifications and type of work you are doing, not all can earn $2k even. not an office lady doing general office admin, not a worker in fast food outlets or convenience stores or restaurants or supermarkets, despite many hours put in per week.
if you have options, and willing to put in effort to exercise those options, then you will not even be sugarbaby to begin with.
an undergrad who earn pocket money by working in fast food outlets and convenience stores and give tuition compared to one getting the same amount visiting sugardaddy after classes, who do you think can hold her head high? if you do not know 礼义廉耻 then your academic qualifications only reflect you are good in one aspect, other aspects could be totally rotten. you will be an expensive sugarbaby now, in future you will be spreading your legs to secure your promotions. the male bosses, while acknowledging you have the ability, know that other males also have the ability but not given the chances like you because your chances are won using your pussy.
legswideopen
04-04-2015, 08:22 AM
there seems to be alot of cheapo sd wannabes here. back then when i was looking for sd i encountered the same thing as you :( want to pay 2k only but want to see me 5x a week (WUT?!) laughed until wanna die..
share more stories ts!
Yes. All these cheap men really make me feel so 哭笑不得. It's one thing to be inclined to bargain, but another to be absolutely lowball. Also really annoying when they completely disregard what you wrote on your profile.
I just hope that all wannabe-SDs understand what their budget can get them. Something's gotta give, right?
legswideopen
04-04-2015, 08:25 AM
Maybe TS post in wrong section, shld post this juicy story at Adult Discussions. Meanwhile, pls do carry on yr story. Uncle waiting here.... :D
Sorry to disappoint boys.. But I'm still not sure how the dynamic of the thread will go.
Started the thread because I was quite frustrated by the wannabe-SDs who are trying to exploit the SBs.
I'm still meeting them and will update accordingly to how the story goes....
legswideopen
04-04-2015, 08:33 AM
TS if looking at $15k to $20k per month, really cannot be selective. those able to afford are few and rare, and those able and also willing to pay for it are even more rare. the customer is king, you cannot be choosy as there will be many ready to elbow you to take the place. you cannot dictate the terms too, or else you will not be chosen when there are others willing to accept any terms.
Hi MaleHost
I agree that few will be able to afford or be willing to spend that amount. However, being in an exclusive sugar relationship really requires both parties to be comfortable with each other. I am not looking for someone who looks like David Beckham or Andy Lau, just looking for someone who knows to treat me with respect and of course someone that I can be comfortable with being intimate on a long-term basis.
As an escort, all I needed to do was bite my lip and patiently wait till the hour was over. An arrangement is completely different. A lot more patience and tolerance is required. I, unfortunately, am not a very good actress. :)
Clearly I feel that I have a certain edge over most. Not trying to be a snob or an elitist, just a personal assessment. Some will appreciate it, some will disregard it. At the end of the day it is about finding a good fit.
jason_
04-04-2015, 08:34 AM
when i was studying in local uni in early 1990s, cohort participation rate was just over 10%. as long as you are in local uni, you are certified good in brains and almost guaranteed reasonably good job and career and income.
at that time, less female undergrads will use their body as asset or tool, they rather slog their guts out in part time jobs, temp jobs and giving tuition. they also know it is a small world, especially among small community of highly educated. if they sell freelance sex or be social escort, who knows during her wedding one of the husband's colleague or relative or friend happen to pay for her service before? imagine bad colleague telling you
that he had fucked your wife before and paid for it, making her no different from a prostitute,and announcing it openly?
today cohort participation rate is about 40% for just local uni. if add overseas uni, private uni, part time degree courses, distance learning, etc all which are much less in the past, about 55% of each primary school cohort has degree. no wonder so low standard nowadays, those in the lower end ones are just like diploma holders of the past. coupled with the unwillingness to put in hard work and effort, they sell sex/flesh/pussy by being SB/FL/escort. lacking mental strength, determination and resilience, these lower-end females usually end up being with lower-end males based on my observations. after all, marriage involves meeting of minds, not just meeting of dicks and pussies, am i not right? however pretty and shapely a lady is, marriage is impossible if their minds are of different frequency and cannot clique.
sugarbabies here are setting themselves to take the lower spectrum in society, all because of short term easy money and material comforts.
legswideopen
04-04-2015, 08:45 AM
well, consider working and earning your own income then. 9am to 5pm, five days a week, face deadlines and office politics from colleagues and superiors and subordinates. and depending on your qualifications and type of work you are doing, not all can earn $2k even. not an office lady doing general office admin, not a worker in fast food outlets or convenience stores or restaurants or supermarkets, despite many hours put in per week.
if you have options, and willing to put in effort to exercise those options, then you will not even be sugarbaby to begin with.
an undergrad who earn pocket money by working in fast food outlets and convenience stores and give tuition compared to one getting the same amount visiting sugardaddy after classes, who do you think can hold her head high? if you do not know 礼义廉耻 then your academic qualifications only reflect you are good in one aspect, other aspects could be totally rotten. you will be an expensive sugarbaby now, in future you will be spreading your legs to secure your promotions. the male bosses, while acknowledging you have the ability, know that other males also have the ability but not given the chances like you because your chances are won using your pussy.
Don't know why there is so much angst here. A tad unfair if you ask me.
If you look down on our choices, then so be it, don't be coming into such threads to preach. There is no argument that being a sugar is much, much more lucrative than doing other odd jobs.
It is not fair to compare apples and oranges. Comparing what we do to what a office worker/cleaner/etc does simply does not hold. You do not go to the FL threads and say the same thing, right?
As a SB, we do more than an FL. At the going rate of a regular $300 FL (calculated by a per meet basis - $2k can get you about 1.5 hours/week). 5x/week (if one meet if about 3 hours) at $2k/month works out to about $30/hour. That figure is insulting even to the working ladies in GL. Let's not even take into consideration that with our stats (age, education, etc), if we were FLs we would get much more than that.
prettymannequin
04-04-2015, 12:12 PM
For standing up for yourself, cheers babe! Show 'em. ;)
wittyman
04-04-2015, 12:22 PM
Yes I know its quite common for FL to go do SB once their money issue settle.
seems sb is the career path for FL :p
wittyman
04-04-2015, 12:25 PM
Love ur nick...
very inviting hehe, u want try ?
DrPussy
04-04-2015, 12:33 PM
there seems to be alot of cheapo sd wannabes here. back then when i was looking for sd i encountered the same thing as you :( want to pay 2k only but want to see me 5x a week (WUT?!) laughed until wanna die..
share more stories ts!
bro open your thread and share your sd story :D
DrPussy
04-04-2015, 12:38 PM
Sorry to disappoint boys.. But I'm still not sure how the dynamic of the thread will go.
sis this is right place.
camping for more thoughts and stories from decent sb :D
MaleHost
04-04-2015, 12:50 PM
Don't know why there is so much angst here. A tad unfair if you ask me.
As a SB, we do more than an FL. At the going rate of a regular $300 FL (calculated by a per meet basis - $2k can get you about 1.5 hours/week). 5x/week (if one meet if about 3 hours) at $2k/month works out to about $30/hour. That figure is insulting even to the working ladies in GL. Let's not even take into consideration that with our stats (age, education, etc), if we were FLs we would get much more than that.
the angst is returning your sarcasm.
and you say cannot compare apples with oranges, so why compare with FL earning then? FL service how many different men each day? and there is risk of being part of police investigation should OKT be caught, you will be charged unless you help police testify against OKT, thus be prepared OKT come after you after serving his prison term or your identity revealed through newspapers. big money comes with its risks and unpleasantness.
if FL earns you $15k to $20k a month, do not expect even half of it as SB, it is just not realistic. perhaps the going rate of $3k to $5k is more realistic, if not you find yourself searching forever without ever finding your right one.
MaleHost
04-04-2015, 01:03 PM
and i have heard and read nasty things happen to FL, you sure bite lip endure until the hour is up is all it takes? you are naive, besides being unrealistic. SB is safer, more stable, one-dick, much less awkwardness and risk of different males each time and what they will do.
somehow these ladies just want to compare with higher rewards of other paths of selling themselves, but choose to downplay the sacrifices that must be made to get the higher rewards. potential SD better not be deceived into over-paying for SB.
truelover
04-04-2015, 02:06 PM
Somehow , i find this topic very interesting. So camping for more update.
But i agree SB & FL cannot be compare. Different mind set of working enviroment mah. Macham like one is canteen cook, one is personal chef.
Canteen cook must serve a lot of people , personal chef must tailor their cooking style to 1 client mah.
If you can tailor yourself to suit the SD taste, higher allowance surely can one. But if the SD cheapo. Look again lol..
super_duper108
04-04-2015, 11:30 PM
One mans meat another mans poison, TS have her rights to set the kind of price she wants.
bunnyrabbit
05-04-2015, 12:09 AM
Doesn't matter what terms you use, SD, Escort or FL. A whore is a whore. If you wanna open your legs to earn that quick money, then keep your legs open. Dun keep up market yourself just because of your education. Dos giving blowjob needs a degree?
legswideopen
05-04-2015, 12:17 AM
Surely you would not be so pedantic as to insist on finding loopholes to everything I say by listing extreme exceptions like FLs being mistreated, as opposed to using some common sense and look at the big picture for a minute?
FLs and SBs are both "selling flesh/body" as some of you crudely pointed out. That's why I consider us to have a basis of comparison. Like apples - there is the China Fuji, granny smith, organic, etc. They are all apples, but with different origins, taste and price tag. If you think organic apples at Cold Storage are super rip off then don't buy lor, but don't need to write to the company saying that they don't deserve to sell their apples at that price. Demand and supply determines whether they do or not - you don't.
Thanks to the bro who supported that I (or any other SB) am allowed to determine what is fair price.
Also, why got one drama story about FLs dealing illegally all? If an FL, like a sugarbaby, handles clients/men directly, there is no illegality there. Don't tell me that there are no FLs that are independent like SBs are?
My rant was also largely stemmed from lowballers. I did not demand $20k a month - but said that if you want exclusivity, that is generally the going rate. This has been confirmed by another bro.
Anyway, another case of people misunderstanding what they read... All that anger for nothing. Peace guyzzz. :)
legswideopen
05-04-2015, 12:18 AM
Doesn't matter what terms you use, SD, Escort or FL. A whore is a whore. If you wanna open your legs to earn that quick money, then keep your legs open. Dun keep up market yourself just because of your education. Dos giving blowjob needs a degree?
Ask the other SDs around if a blow job is all they are after. :)
legswideopen
05-04-2015, 12:24 AM
The First..
He was so adamant on a meet up ASAP and seemed sincere. I agreed since I was meeting a friend for lunch anyway...
Having had almost zero sleep the night before, followed by class in the morning, I was in half a mind to cancel but told myself that I need to start the ball rolling one way or another. Tried to get a cab - Murphy again. There was no cab available even after trying to book through multiple platforms and waiting for 15 mins by the main road.
Thankfully, a guy stopped and gave me a ride. I was so touched because he paid ERP for me. Yes, the little things are important.
When I reached the venue, I waited around for a bit before I saw him...
zinedine zidane
05-04-2015, 12:57 AM
Thankfully, a guy stopped and gave me a ride. I was so touched because he paid ERP for me. Yes, the little things are important.
When I reached the venue, I waited around for a bit before I saw him...
Got cars suddenly stop to give u a ride? :confused:
jason_
05-04-2015, 01:19 AM
this gal is a rotten apple going for $100, anybody want to buy just go ahead. demand and supply my foot! you are a disgrace to uni students, and your weak arguments confirm if you were my generation where uni place are much fewer then there will not be a uni place for you.
come on guys, no prostitute pussy is worth a five-digit sum every month, period.
MaleHost
05-04-2015, 01:30 AM
Got cars suddenly stop to give u a ride? :confused:
maybe she lift up her skirt to flash her thigh, or pull down her blouse to flash her bra?
student without income zipping around in taxis, does your parents know you are in this flesh trade? please let them know, let them be proud and happy for you.
Wintermelontea
05-04-2015, 02:43 AM
Just thinking aloud. Shouldn't the relationship between the SD and SB be discreet?
TS, please consider the above and spare a thought for your ex-SDs or potentials, if any.
If you want to air your grievances, do it with a friend that can keep your secrets safe.
TehOping
05-04-2015, 06:41 AM
well, consider working and earning your own income then. 9am to 5pm, five days a week, face deadlines and office politics from colleagues and superiors and subordinates. and depending on your qualifications and type of work you are doing, not all can earn $2k even. not an office lady doing general office admin, not a worker in fast food outlets or convenience stores or restaurants or supermarkets, despite many hours put in per week.
if you have options, and willing to put in effort to exercise those options, then you will not even be sugarbaby to begin with.
an undergrad who earn pocket money by working in fast food outlets and convenience stores and give tuition compared to one getting the same amount visiting sugardaddy after classes, who do you think can hold her head high? if you do not know 礼义廉耻 then your academic qualifications only reflect you are good in one aspect, other aspects could be totally rotten. you will be an expensive sugarbaby now, in future you will be spreading your legs to secure your promotions. the male bosses, while acknowledging you have the ability, know that other males also have the ability but not given the chances like you because your chances are won using your pussy.
dude, dont preach if you dont know what the other party is going through. and i was just sharing the kind of lowballers i encountered. maybe to you 2k monthly for meetups 5x a week is acceptable but to me it's just downright cheapo. maybe if you offer that to a china wl they MIGHT accept. and then screw around behind yr back to get more cash lol.
we all have our own difficulties. u can judge for all u want but do you think we actually WANT to do this? u might think we are lazy and not willing to 'work' for the money. u tell me.. how many people u know can actually manage to save up their 4 whole yrs of uni fees (for those curious, 4 yrs uni fees is about 3k/sem and this is just BASIC fees). u earn 2k monthly minus CPF minus living expenses minus rent if you're living alone and no family help on student loans. take home pay is less than 1k. imagine if you work at fast food outlets earning min wage $6/hr. IF YOU manage to do it then wow i really salute u because it is HARD.
oh and who say i need to spread my legs to get promotions? u sure are very judgey. just because we receive a little help on our way to completing our degrees doesn't mean we are 'rotten'. u sound like yr promotions got stolen by another pussy cos yr boss is a male. then u should not put the blame entirely on the pussy cos the boss is obviously not professional enough and his dick stole all the blood from his brain. look at 2 sides of a coin. when there's a demand there's a supply ;)
TehOping
05-04-2015, 06:48 AM
Surely you would not be so pedantic as to insist on finding loopholes to everything I say by listing extreme exceptions like FLs being mistreated, as opposed to using some common sense and look at the big picture for a minute?
FLs and SBs are both "selling flesh/body" as some of you crudely pointed out. That's why I consider us to have a basis of comparison. Like apples - there is the China Fuji, granny smith, organic, etc. They are all apples, but with different origins, taste and price tag. If you think organic apples at Cold Storage are super rip off then don't buy lor, but don't need to write to the company saying that they don't deserve to sell their apples at that price. Demand and supply determines whether they do or not - you don't.
Thanks to the bro who supported that I (or any other SB) am allowed to determine what is fair price.
Also, why got one drama story about FLs dealing illegally all? If an FL, like a sugarbaby, handles clients/men directly, there is no illegality there. Don't tell me that there are no FLs that are independent like SBs are?
My rant was also largely stemmed from lowballers. I did not demand $20k a month - but said that if you want exclusivity, that is generally the going rate. This has been confirmed by another bro.
Anyway, another case of people misunderstanding what they read... All that anger for nothing. Peace guyzzz. :)
ya lo sis.. they keep saying u are asking for 5 figures a month when u merely stated the market rate. maybe too excited to read yr replies until the eyes nv see and read properly :eek:
Omg how much does uni going to cost me? How do boys, poor ones, pay for their degree? As a mum im so scared now. I need another job.
dude, dont preach if you dont know what the other party is going through. and i was just sharing the kind of lowballers i encountered. maybe to you 2k monthly for meetups 5x a week is acceptable but to me it's just downright cheapo. maybe if you offer that to a china wl they MIGHT accept. and then screw around behind yr back to get more cash lol.
we all have our own difficulties. u can judge for all u want but do you think we actually WANT to do this? u might think we are lazy and not willing to 'work' for the money. u tell me.. how many people u know can actually manage to save up their 4 whole yrs of uni fees (for those curious, 4 yrs uni fees is about 3k/sem and this is just BASIC fees). u earn 2k monthly minus CPF minus living expenses minus rent if you're living alone and no family help on student loans. take home pay is less than 1k. imagine if you work at fast food outlets earning min wage $6/hr. IF YOU manage to do it then wow i really salute u because it is HARD.
oh and who say i need to spread my legs to get promotions? u sure are very judgey. just because we receive a little help on our way to completing our degrees doesn't mean we are 'rotten'. u sound like yr promotions got stolen by another pussy cos yr boss is a male. then u should not put the blame entirely on the pussy cos the boss is obviously not professional enough and his dick stole all the blood from his brain. look at 2 sides of a coin. when there's a demand there's a supply ;)
PPGirl
05-04-2015, 08:44 AM
Omg how much does uni going to cost me? How do boys, poor ones, pay for their degree? As a mum im so scared now. I need another job.
Can deduct from ur cpf. When ur children start working for a year, cpf will ask them to return the money to ur cpf account.
There is an education scheme in ur cpf which can be used to deduct u or ur children course fees. Login to ur cpf online with ur singpass, u will b able to see d education section at ur statement. :)
Phew! Scare the shit out of me. Thanks thanks you just saved me from entering into the trade. Anyway just to be "kia su" i better set aside 500 per month starting this month. I hope 4yrs is enough time. Should i do 800 instead? That would mean i won't have a spare room for leisure.
Can deduct from ur cpf. When ur children start working for a year, cpf will ask them to return the money to ur cpf account.
There is an education scheme in ur cpf which can be used to deduct u or ur children course fees.
PPGirl
05-04-2015, 09:06 AM
Phew! Scare the shit out of me. Thanks thanks you just saved me from entering into the trade. Anyway just to be "kia su" i better set aside 500 per month starting this month. I hope 4yrs is enough time. Should i do 800 instead? That would mean i won't have a spare room for leisure.
Is there a education fund in ur cpf?
U can refer here (http://admissions.ntu.edu.sg/UndergraduateAdmissions/Pages/FeesTuitionGrant.aspx) for course fee info.
Ts..sry for hijacking
Must check. You're the best! Thanks so much! :p
Taken breakfast yet? Want to join me n my son? We at mcdonald :p
Is there a education fund in ur cpf?
U can refer here (http://admissions.ntu.edu.sg/UndergraduateAdmissions/Pages/FeesTuitionGrant.aspx) for course fee info.
Ts..sry for hijacking
PPGirl
05-04-2015, 09:39 AM
Must check. You're the best! Thanks so much! :p
Taken breakfast yet? Want to join me n my son? We at mcdonald :p
U r welcome :)
Haha thx . Goin back for more slp as goin out with my bf n frds later
Cool! Enjoy both reel and real life sweetheart:) say hi to bf for me & son.
U r welcome :)
Haha thx . Goin back for more slp as goin out with my bf n frds later
legswideopen
05-04-2015, 11:10 AM
Omg how much does uni going to cost me? How do boys, poor ones, pay for their degree? As a mum im so scared now. I need another job.
Hi Hugs,
I did a rough calculation and a local uni is going to cost about $800/month just for tuition alone (normal courses like biz all, not medicine).
My friend is doing a private degree at 21k total, can finish in 1.5 years.
The CPF scheme is only applicable for local universities.
HTH :)
legswideopen
05-04-2015, 11:25 AM
dude, dont preach if you dont know what the other party is going through. and i was just sharing the kind of lowballers i encountered. maybe to you 2k monthly for meetups 5x a week is acceptable but to me it's just downright cheapo. maybe if you offer that to a china wl they MIGHT accept. and then screw around behind yr back to get more cash lol.
we all have our own difficulties. u can judge for all u want but do you think we actually WANT to do this? u might think we are lazy and not willing to 'work' for the money. u tell me.. how many people u know can actually manage to save up their 4 whole yrs of uni fees (for those curious, 4 yrs uni fees is about 3k/sem and this is just BASIC fees). u earn 2k monthly minus CPF minus living expenses minus rent if you're living alone and no family help on student loans. take home pay is less than 1k. imagine if you work at fast food outlets earning min wage $6/hr. IF YOU manage to do it then wow i really salute u because it is HARD.
Yes sis, I concur. :)
Rent + tuition + living expenses already adds up to more than 2k. Don't even talk about shopping and beauty expenses. Not trying to justify our choices, just really agree that it is extremely difficult to try to balance everything and still keep going.
I chuckled at your subtle retort. :p Why are they even here anyway? Don't understand the existence of such self-righteous people in a sex forum full of escort ads and field reviews. Well done, I clap for you. They sound like the cheap men and lowballers who got rejected that are now here to bitch at us for not settling for their shit offers. Lolololol.
legswideopen
05-04-2015, 11:40 AM
maybe she lift up her skirt to flash her thigh, or pull down her blouse to flash her bra?
student without income zipping around in taxis, does your parents know you are in this flesh trade? please let them know, let them be proud and happy for you.
I did neither leh... How?
So many SBs/FLs/bros in the forum, and you are saying that? Lol. Don't be so disrespectful la. You go commenting on all the other threads criticising other bros' ethics and moral code for their steamy extramarital affairs? Or the bros who are serious hobbyists, or have other controversial fetishes? Rude leh. In such a forum, we may differ on moral codes but it is cardinal to keep an open mind. Respect a bit leh.
You failed in your search for an SB because you too cheapo is it? Don't sad la. Sayang. I'm sure a righteous, upright man like you who visits a sex forum to bitch about other girls being too expensive for your liking will get a match someday. I mean, who doesn't like cheap, self-righteous and disrespectful people? :)
youre
05-04-2015, 11:55 AM
I also think nowadays the providers are lowballing .. Not in the trade but gathered from postings I see here.
Haven't always known about the exchange of money and love but when I did, I had the idea that sb were highly prized and priced due to their almost gf/bf like relationship.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't having a sb supposed to be viewed as a 'unreachable luxury that only a small amount of people can afford'.
You're paying so much because you're getting a girlfriend of your choice without putting effort to woo and without putting your life down for her. And she respects the exchange too and does not throw the usual stunts and emotional drama like a normal bgr.
Well.. There are different price range for everything... Like comparing cold storage sushi and private dining at waku ghin.. Furthermore it's a precious thing like body or sex...
Anyway, just to put a perspective why some exchanges are so much more costly..
So say around 1k per month for 3 yrs? 36k?
Hi Hugs,
I did a rough calculation and a local uni is going to cost about $800/month just for tuition alone (normal courses like biz all, not medicine).
My friend is doing a private degree at 21k total, can finish in 1.5 years.
The CPF scheme is only applicable for local universities.
HTH :)
Very controversial topic...
There will be some men here who act holy and "side" with the girls and trust me, ladies, you would be in for a surprise later if you do "date" them. ;)
Please note that these are just my thoughts...nothing personal against anyone. Long post ahead..don't know who will read it..but well, I'm bored. Pretty sure this will draw the ire of many also.
I personally feel that there isn't a need to go into flesh trade to support uni fees. Yes, education costs are high, but it is a matter of balancing needs and wants. The problem is how the society functions. When I was in primary school, I played with pokemon cards that cost $1. When I moved into secondary school, I played with yu gi oh cards that cost around $20. But nowadays, secondary school students are carrying branded goods, primary school kids are all running around with phones that cost more than the total cost of all the phones I have purchased in my 4 years of secondary school and 2 years of JC (yes, $0 phones were the only phones I had in my 4 years of secondary school).
Do we blame the people or the system? It is easy to blame the system. After all, sometimes we have to have certain upkeep. For instance, cars. It is a true fact that having a car creates much more convenience. But that doesn't necessarily we do everything to get one. Personally for me, I would rather start on a house first (which I am, I kinda think I will end up alone, so may as well start on my own first). With the amount I have, I can easily go for a car, but I choose to tough it out because I see the long-term gains of a house over a car. Some may agree, some may not.
Having said that, it is easy to feel lonely in this city. I have thought of getting a sugarbaby plenty of times.
The difference between a FL and sugarbaby cannot be easily differentiated. Who should be paid more, who less? A FL obviously go through harsher conditions (all kinds of people, short notice, poorer accomodation). But harsher conditions doesn't necessary means more pay; given this logic, bangala workers would be earning much more than us.
But having said that, I always thought sugarbabies were to be able to provide a much more intimate (read: emotion) experience. I always thought there is an inherent difference in that sugarbabies were not driven by the sole desire of monetary rewards. I was (read: was) of the opinion that sugarbabies desired some form of emotional attention and chemistry. In return, the SD brings the SB to enjoy certain things befitting of his class/level. Exclusivity was implied. But then again, just because the company hires me for an amount each month, it doesn't mean I must spend every waking hour in the office, so the same can be said for SBs. Unless the numeration is sky high, which I read off a post that it is 20k? That again is a contradiction itself. First of all, people who are able to pay 20k a month for a SB; I highly doubt they will. These are successful people who do not need to use money to get girls. Cmon, let's be realistic. I'm pretty sure MBS approached Beckham's agent, not the other way around.
Do SBs need to command such high "pay" every month? I'm a little shocked to be honest. The rates that are being demanded are way above that of many jobs. Perhaps it is true that the income gap is widening rapidly, whereby the rich are more than able to afford (and willing) such rates. A fresh graduate (say second upper) who goes to a foreign bank as a management associate won't even draw $5k. My friend who has first class honors from Cambridge draws a little under $5k at DSTA. Let's say a SB meets twice a week and gets $5k. This SB goes for 2 SDs. That's $10k a month; tell me, how many of us draw that amount a month while being under 30?
So all in all, there is no conclusion to my post. I guess it's all about two willing parties. After all, it's the SD's money and the SB's body (and mind?). I'm sorry for wasting your time reading this. I'm just a very confused mid 20s guys. :P
MaleHost
05-04-2015, 12:24 PM
come on guys, no prostitute pussy is worth a five-digit sum every month, period.
well said bro, i will use these words as my signature, hope you do not mind.
MaleHost
05-04-2015, 12:32 PM
i see, one month goes to paying fees for the year, what about the other eleven months? taxi trips, cafe and restaurant meals, clothes and bags? sluts indeed, hope your parents and future husband will feel proud for you. and your children too, tell them how you use your pussy as an asset, better still teach your daughter to sell too.
how many who sell are due to hardship cases, how many due to chasing material comforts, only the pussies themselves will know.
i heard nowadays travelling in mrt and bus has become a hardship for local syts.
MaleHost
05-04-2015, 12:35 PM
Omg how much does uni going to cost me? How do boys, poor ones, pay for their degree? As a mum im so scared now. I need another job.
pussies can be used as assets, can dicks be used as assets too?
i see, one month goes to paying fees for the year, what about the other eleven months? taxi trips, cafe and restaurant meals, clothes and bags? sluts indeed, hope your parents and future husband will feel proud for you. and your children too, tell them how you use your pussy as an asset, better still teach your daughter to sell too.
how many who sell are due to hardship cases, how many due to chasing material comforts, only the pussies themselves will know.
i heard nowadays travelling in mrt and bus has become a hardship for local syts.
Harsh words, but plenty of truth element.
legswideopen
05-04-2015, 12:41 PM
So say around 1k per month for 3 yrs? 36k?
Should be more than enough. Also your son will go army first so he gets a little stipend that he can save, or maybe if he does very well he can sign military scholarship... Still good to have that amount for yourself in any case. ;)
At least a figure to work on. Thanks!
Should be more than enough. Also your son will go army first so he gets a little stipend that he can save, or maybe if he does very well he can sign military scholarship... Still good to have that amount for yourself in any case. ;)
MaleHost
05-04-2015, 12:48 PM
My rant was also largely stemmed from lowballers. I did not demand $20k a month - but said that if you want exclusivity, that is generally the going rate. This has been confirmed by another bro.
since when statistics is based on one case? did that bro really pay, or just say to make you happy?
the going rate is $3k to $5k based on the different threads out there.
which uni and which faculty you in? a dumping ground for those who would not have uni place if born 20 years earlier, i guess, given such weak arguments and lousy logical deduction skills. and probably do badly for the statistics part in a-level mathematics.
gone were the days when having degree mean having brains.
MaleHost
05-04-2015, 12:53 PM
Harsh words, but plenty of truth element.
truth is not recognised or rewarded, i had been zapped instead. but that is ok, for i learned once you reach below -100 points, you become immune to zapping because nobody bothers zapping you anymore, -100 or -300 makes no difference anyway. the more red it is, the more auspicious i think.
truth is not recognised or rewarded, i had been zapped instead. but that is ok, for i learned once you reach below -100 points, you become immune to zapping because nobody bothers zapping you anymore, -100 or -300 makes no difference anyway. the more red it is, the more auspicious i think.
Yup, no one likes the truth I guess.
As for zapping...I've been zapped for introducing myself as "working in the banking industry". :rolleyes:
legswideopen
05-04-2015, 01:00 PM
i see, one month goes to paying fees for the year, what about the other eleven months? taxi trips, cafe and restaurant meals, clothes and bags? sluts indeed, hope your parents and future husband will feel proud for you. and your children too, tell them how you use your pussy as an asset, better still teach your daughter to sell too.
how many who sell are due to hardship cases, how many due to chasing material comforts, only the pussies themselves will know.
i heard nowadays travelling in mrt and bus has become a hardship for local syts.
You sexy eloquent beast.
Also all the others here full of hate that are clearly missing the point of what an SB/SD relationship is, a cursory google search will be able to tell you that it is a relationship. A more detailed article can be found here: click (https://www.seekingarrangement.com/blog/four-differences-between-sugar-prostitution)/
My reference on what an appropriate rate is:
click (https://fakesugardaddiesexposed.wordpress.com/the-art-of-negotiation/)
Before anyone starts bitching again, I must say that these articles are only for reference. Read with an open mind, but they have not differed from what I have found during my stint as a SB.
I did not start this thread with the intention of looking for a SD here. You are clearly not SD material, and I respect that. Please accord the same respect too. Cheers.
PPGirl
05-04-2015, 01:02 PM
Found a long lost spoilt recorder here :D
If u get what i mean lolz
Ts.. i would suggest u to ignore those posts which u deem to be irritating :D
Want to preach.. be a priest then . No point act holy in a sex forum.
MaleHost
05-04-2015, 01:03 PM
look at 2 sides of a coin. when there's a demand there's a supply ;)
when your daughter reach age 18, please ask her to sell her virginity to the highest bidder. demand and supply right? as for your own pussy, perhaps $50 a shot?
Found a long lost spoilt recorder here :D
If u get what i mean lolz
Why u so bad one. :(
when your daughter reach age 18, please ask her to sell her virginity to the highest bidder. demand and supply right? as for your own pussy, perhaps $50 a shot?
Er..that's getting a little personal.
PPGirl
05-04-2015, 01:06 PM
Why u so bad one. :(
I wasnt referring to u :p
I wasnt referring to u :p
But still.
Hhahaha.
:p
legswideopen
05-04-2015, 01:09 PM
Found a long lost spoilt recorder here :D
If u get what i mean lolz
Ts.. i would suggest u to ignore those posts which u deem to be irritating :D
Want to preach.. be a priest then . No point act holy in a sex forum.
Thanks, but I still had some faith in humanity la, you know?
But yes... Will give up. Just felt sad for that person la. He sounds so pathetic and bitter.
PPGirl
05-04-2015, 01:11 PM
Thanks, but I still had some faith in humanity la, you know?
But yes... Will give up. Just felt sad for that person la. He sounds so pathetic and bitter.
u mean d act holy guy? :D
well.. if he is so capable ask him go geylang to preach :D
maybe he is too lonely haha
MaleHost
05-04-2015, 01:14 PM
i am trying to get back my immunity. i do not understand how my immune -114 points suddenly become 100+ points. this thread started by brainless undergrad pussies just nice become the target for my shooting :-)
PPGirl
05-04-2015, 01:26 PM
sluts indeed, hope your parents and future husband will feel proud for you. and your children too, tell them how you use your pussy as an asset, better still teach your daughter to sell too.
i am trying to get back my immunity. i do not understand how my immune -114 points suddenly become 100+ points. this thread started by brainless undergrad pussies just nice become the target for my shooting :-)
Getting back ur red pts so impt that u can bring ppl family into the picture? This show how well ur upbringing is :cool:
Do u knw ts personally? By calling her names so what does that make u? We have no rights to judge ppl. If she want to be a FL/SB, its her own choice. Who are we to tell her what to do?
Do not understand y u r positive now? U can always pm boss to ask him grant u straight red zone.
MaleHost
05-04-2015, 01:28 PM
hi guys, before you marry the woman you love, never mind if she is not virgin due to previous lovers. but must ask her if she ever sold h erself as FL or SB or escort. better to hear from her now, still marry her or not is up to you, but the worst is to hear from outside sources.
a colleague who had paid her for $500 a shot before, now this colleague want to make you look like cuckoo in office by announcing it. or your uncle, when see her during wedding dinner, hahaha. for other possible scenario, please imagine yourselves.
lots of truth and good sense in my words, but see the zapping that follows. looks like weekend is the time to post and get zap and get immunity fast, more readers during weekend.
MaleHost
05-04-2015, 01:31 PM
Getting back ur red pts so impt that u can bring ppl family into the picture? This show how well ur upbringing is :cool:
Do u knw ts personally? By calling her names so what does that make u? We have no rights to judge ppl. If she want to be a FL/SB, its her own choice. Who are we to tell her what to do?
i think your brain needs fixing as much as TS, for both of you cannot see possible future consequences.
PPGirl
05-04-2015, 01:33 PM
i think your brain needs fixing as much as TS, for both of you cannot see possible future consequences.
Yours need too. Keep preaching. Dun ask ur clone talk to me lolz
So by calling ppl slut n bring ppl family is correct huh?
Want to preach so much.. go church sunday service. U can preach for all u want :D
MaleHost
05-04-2015, 01:34 PM
Thanks, but I still had some faith in humanity la, you know?
But yes... Will give up. Just felt sad for that person la. He sounds so pathetic and bitter.
i feel sad for you, for without brains your degree is just a piece of paper no different from toilet paper, to be discarded after you soil it.
MaleHost
05-04-2015, 01:37 PM
Yours need too. Keep preaching. Dun ask ur clone talk to me lolz
So by calling ppl slut n bring ppl family is correct huh?
hello, it is correct to call a slut a slut. and your brain really need fixing, i did not scold her family, i just state possible consequences on family.
PPGirl
05-04-2015, 01:39 PM
hello, it is correct to call a slut a slut. and your brain really need fixing, i did not scold her family, i just state possible consequences on family.
I recommend u go buangkok.
Still think u r correct to call ppl names.
I did not say u scold. Go read properly. Is it right to bring in ppl family ?
georgemagnum
05-04-2015, 01:50 PM
i think your brain needs fixing as much as TS, for both of you cannot see possible future consequences.
You certainly deserved to be zapped!
And may you turn red soon.
You know what forum you are in, don't you?
MaleHost
05-04-2015, 01:51 PM
if her daughter gets to know it, like her friend's father paid her mother for $500 a shot before, the mother has no more moral authority to teach her not to do it. am i not right?
youngsters nowadays interpret hardship differently. even standing or squeezing in packed mrt trains is hardship, eating in non-aircon coffeeshops too, wearing the no-brand $10 shirts their fathers wear is hardship, not having the latest i-phone is a constant.torture and they feel disgraced and feel like dying.
any pussy which want to sell will have no lack of reasons to justify, real or false, accurate or exaggerated. just like putting toxic chemical into classmates' drinks then claim insanity like that a-star scholar, my point is insane or not you go to jail. likewise, no ambiguity on the term slut. the only difference is between good sluts and bad sluts.
Why don't u get urself a SB? Then no need to start n restart any thread. I get this idea that u r saying u r rich hold good job etc. Get a SB la. Don't waste the cum away on diy every wkends.
Yup, no one likes the truth I guess.
As for zapping...I've been zapped for introducing myself as "working in the banking industry". :rolleyes:
PPGirl
05-04-2015, 01:53 PM
Yawnz .. go slp soon. Next :D
Ts.. if u wish to continue ur story..go adult section.
Call ppl names liao still yaya papaya think he is right
MaleHost
05-04-2015, 01:58 PM
I recommend u go buangkok.
Still think u r correct to call ppl names.
I did not say u scold. Go read properly. Is it right to bring in ppl family ?
no young lady, you go buangkok instead. if you sell pussy and your future husband hear from colleague, or your future father in law hear from his friends who had fucked you before, really no consequences? maybe even doubt if your baby is seed of husband or outside men.
you better go buangkok fast fast, your case very serious cannot delay anymore.
PPGirl
05-04-2015, 02:00 PM
Do u knw cursing ppl will get retribution?
Erm.. i dun dare say more but i heard the cursing will fall on next generation. Believe or not, up to u.
Whose case is VERY SERIOUS i think ppl got eyes to see hor. I dun need to say so much :D
Bring in ts family n now bring in my family . *shakes head*. Salute to ur parents for ur "upbringing". I wonder do u have a sad childhood lolz.
Haiz. And i thot as long not my thread i can walk away. Im running out of patience.
.........stop.......... ( i mean u..)
I need a massage badly. Im getting a headache.
MaleHost
05-04-2015, 02:07 PM
Yours need too. Keep preaching. Dun ask ur clone talk to me lolz
i do not have clone, you mean another user keep talking to you and you imagine it is me? better go buangkok fast, you are hallucinating already :O
even if i create clone, i will not bother with women whose brain are shallow just like their beauty is only skin-deep.
.........stop......
i do not have clone, you mean another user keep talking to you and you imagine it is me? better go buangkok fast, you are hallucinating already :O
even if i create clone, i will not bother with women whose brain are shallow just like their beauty is only skin-deep.
PPGirl
05-04-2015, 02:11 PM
i do not have clone, you mean another user keep talking to you and you imagine it is me? better go buangkok fast, you are hallucinating already :O
even if i create clone, i will not bother with women whose brain are shallow just like their beauty is only skin-deep.
this forum suits u more
http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=931370
A clone will nvr admit it is 1 :D
MaleHost
05-04-2015, 02:13 PM
Do u knw cursing ppl will get retribution?
Erm.. i dun dare say more but i heard the cursing will fall on next generation. Believe or not, up to u.
Whose case is VERY SERIOUS i think ppl got eyes to see hor. I dun need to say so much :D
Bring in ts family n now bring in my family . *shakes head*. Salute to ur parents for ur "upbringing". I wonder do u have a sad childhood lolz.
why are you so bothered? did i touch a raw nerve relating to your past actions? if that is true, all the more you are verifying the truths and good sense in my words, thank you very much.
if not, let it rest young lady, do not make people imagine you have a hidden past.
PPGirl
05-04-2015, 02:16 PM
why are you so bothered? did i touch a raw nerve relating to your past actions? if that is true, all the more you are verifying the truths and good sense in my words, thank you very much.
if not, let it rest young lady, do not make people imagine you have a hidden past.
oh do i have anything to hide?.i think u have .
y let it rest? I dun like ppl like u calling ppl names n bring in ppl family.
MaleHost
05-04-2015, 02:20 PM
.........stop......
遵命, for today, for dear sis hugs.
PPGirl
05-04-2015, 02:21 PM
Haha tmr he will start preaching again.
Meow^^
05-04-2015, 02:26 PM
Someone is bitching ? :D
PPGirl
05-04-2015, 02:27 PM
Someone is bitching ? :D
Hey sis meow.. im coming to taiwan lolz but not so soon
What do u call a guy who bitch? :D
seabass
05-04-2015, 02:35 PM
遵命, for today, for dear sis hugs.
LWCJ aka the peeper?
seabass
05-04-2015, 02:35 PM
Hey sis meow.. im coming to taiwan lolz but not so soon
What do u call a guy who bitch? :D
Bitch ......
PPGirl
05-04-2015, 02:37 PM
Bitch ......
Same? A bitching guy :D http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=2805714
Lol..this thread degenerated pretty speedily...
:D
Why don't u get urself a SB? Then no need to start n restart any thread. I get this idea that u r saying u r rich hold good job etc. Get a SB la. Don't waste the cum away on diy every wkends.
Just to be clear, there are things I agree with what MaleHost said, but that doesn't mean I'm not on his side. I find his name-calling very tasteless as well.
:)
terminator33
05-04-2015, 03:15 PM
there seems to be alot of cheapo sd wannabes here. back then when i was looking for sd i encountered the same thing as you :( want to pay 2k only but want to see me 5x a week (WUT?!) laughed until wanna die..
share more stories ts!
As much as there are so called cheapo sd wannabes there are many sb scamming as well.
If a sd offered you 2k to meet 5 times a week, can just ignore right.
terminator33
05-04-2015, 03:19 PM
Yes. All these cheap men really make me feel so 哭笑不得. It's one thing to be inclined to bargain, but another to be absolutely lowball. Also really annoying when they completely disregard what you wrote on your profile.
I just hope that all wannabe-SDs understand what their budget can get them. Something's gotta give, right?
People ignore your profile then just ignore them. It is fair and square, what is there to be annoyed?
terminator33
05-04-2015, 03:29 PM
Sorry to disappoint boys.. But I'm still not sure how the dynamic of the thread will go.
Started the thread because I was quite frustrated by the wannabe-SDs who are trying to exploit the SBs.
I'm still meeting them and will update accordingly to how the story goes....
just hope that you respect the privacy of your ex-sd or potential sds - even if they are low balls in your eyes.
Just imagine one if your ex sd starting a thread writing about you.
I had 7 SBs (current 7th one still active ) - I never write in any details about them although some of the incidents were truly epic. Some of the relationship may not have turned out perfect, still I respect their privacy not to write about them except generally.
I was frustrated about some of them too but never feel the need to expose them.
I hope you can write in a more general way to protect the privacy.
terminator33
05-04-2015, 03:37 PM
The thing about exclusivity is an illusion.
I don't think it is the amount. You can never be 7x24 with your sb - even if you are meeting everyday. And if a girl can take 10k to 20k a month from you - don't believe it will be exclusive because she can get the same amount from another guy easily. I learnt it the hard way.
exclusivity is only possible if she truly loves you and not your money. If she loves you it can be totally free. Otherwise someone can pay more and you can't be sure if she will be faithful.
terminator33
05-04-2015, 03:47 PM
Surprisingly, the best SBS are not the most expensive. There are those who truly respect and have genuine affection for you and their needs are reasonable.
I like what u wrote. Enticing
The thing about exclusivity is an illusion.
I don't think it is the amount. You can never be 7x24 with your sb - even if you are meeting everyday. And if a girl can take 10k to 20k a month from you - don't believe it will be exclusive because she can get the same amount from another guy easily. I learnt it the hard way.
exclusivity is only possible if she truly loves you and not your money. If she loves you it can be totally free. Otherwise someone can pay more and you can't be sure if she will be faithful.
The thing about exclusivity is an illusion.
I don't think it is the amount. You can never be 7x24 with your sb - even if you are meeting everyday. And if a girl can take 10k to 20k a month from you - don't believe it will be exclusive because she can get the same amount from another guy easily. I learnt it the hard way.
exclusivity is only possible if she truly loves you and not your money. If she loves you it can be totally free. Otherwise someone can pay more and you can't be sure if she will be faithful.
100% agree.
georgemagnum
05-04-2015, 03:57 PM
The thing about exclusivity is an illusion.
I don't think it is the amount. You can never be 7x24 with your sb - even if you are meeting everyday. And if a girl can take 10k to 20k a month from you - don't believe it will be exclusive because she can get the same amount from another guy easily. I learnt it the hard way.
exclusivity is only possible if she truly loves you and not your money. If she loves you it can be totally free. Otherwise someone can pay more and you can't be sure if she will be faithful.
It's like couple expecting each other to be faithful? :D
Ladyrain
05-04-2015, 04:00 PM
The thing about exclusivity is an illusion.
I don't think it is the amount.
exclusivity is only possible if she truly loves you and not your money. If she loves you it can be totally free.
For such relationships, I guess the man will have to shower the sb enough to survive before she can offer more than just transactional "love".
Never easy to win anyone's heart. :o
Some sbs needed the extra allowance in order to help with current bills and so. If the sd don't bother, then cant blame the sb for not being exclusive, no? She has to find alternatives.
Shower her more? Winning one's love? So enticing! I want one.
Someone find me one please. I'll be forever grateful:p
Ladyrain
05-04-2015, 04:22 PM
Someone find me one please. I'll be forever grateful:p
You have suitors I see. :p
You dont need to find. They'll go to you, yes? ;)
I don't no pm. Zero. I want to do a future part time private degree. I have A level cert onli :(
You have suitors I see. :p
You dont need to find. They'll go to you, yes? ;)
Wow! TS that site u said..i just got a pm from someone! Im so excited. Brb
Fck. My profile pic pending approval so i cant read the msg. Sheets.
super_duper108
05-04-2015, 04:37 PM
Yes sis, I concur. :)
Rent + tuition + living expenses already adds up to more than 2k. Don't even talk about shopping and beauty expenses. Not trying to justify our choices, just really agree that it is extremely difficult to try to balance everything and still keep going.
I chuckled at your subtle retort. :p Why are they even here anyway? Don't understand the existence of such self-righteous people in a sex forum full of escort ads and field reviews. Well done, I clap for you. They sound like the cheap men and lowballers who got rejected that are now here to bitch at us for not settling for their shit offers. Lolololol.
Well said... Willing buyer willing seller
wittyman
05-04-2015, 04:45 PM
Well said... Willing buyer willing seller
ya, it is the market that determines
super_duper108
05-04-2015, 04:53 PM
For such relationships, I guess the man will have to shower the sb enough to survive before she can offer more than just transactional "love".
Never easy to win anyone's heart. :o
Some sbs needed the extra allowance in order to help with current bills and so. If the sd don't bother, then cant blame the sb for not being exclusive, no? She has to find alternatives.
But then again how much is "enough"? Some people can live with 5k, some can't even live with 10k. So where do you draw the line ?
super_duper108
05-04-2015, 04:56 PM
u mean d act holy guy? :D
well.. if he is so capable ask him go geylang to preach :D
maybe he is too lonely haha
Maybe he is " hole ly"
Ladyrain
05-04-2015, 05:26 PM
But then again how much is "enough"? Some people can live with 5k, some can't even live with 10k. So where do you draw the line ?
Sugarbabes are not for the average joe.
You get what you are willing and can afford to give.
Take another one if you cant provide. Simple as that.
terminator33
05-04-2015, 05:48 PM
For such relationships, I guess the man will have to shower the sb enough to survive before she can offer more than just transactional "love".
Never easy to win anyone's heart. :o
Some sbs needed the extra allowance in order to help with current bills and so. If the sd don't bother, then cant blame the sb for not being exclusive, no? She has to find alternatives.
that is why I never believe in exclusivity even if the sb swear.. as I said it is not the $. If u need 10k to be exclusive, why won't you you accept 20k from another guy to be "exclusive" one more time.
terminator33
05-04-2015, 05:55 PM
But then again how much is "enough"? Some people can live with 5k, some can't even live with 10k. So where do you draw the line ?
there is market for 2-3k, 5k , 10k or more.
doesn't mean more money is better. Pay what you can afford. As I said, surprisingly my best SBs are in the 3k range. Now I rather get those less than 5k. Save money and more satisfying. The money saved to be used to shower them with gifts.
terminator33
05-04-2015, 05:57 PM
Wow! TS that site u said..i just got a pm from someone! Im so excited. Brb
Which website? SA?
jason_
05-04-2015, 06:10 PM
But then again how much is "enough"? Some people can live with 5k, some can't even live with 10k. So where do you draw the line ?
there is no line to draw, her greed will get the better of her just like it had already controlled her actions and made her sell herself.
through spending time with you, she will slowly find out your true wealth. after knowing you are a fat goat with millions, on top of that $20k sugarbaby allowance, she will want good meals, shopping trips, that occasional LV bag, high end cosmetics, the list is never ending.
when doing big projects, despite prudence, may end up spending time150% of initial budget due to unforeseen circumstances.
if your sugarbaby is uncontrollable, her goal is to dig as much as she can in as short time as possible, do not believe their "presentation" at the beginning. once you are hooked, she use tantrums, suicide threats, blackmail, tears, whatever it takes to make you end up spending three times that sugarbaby allowance every month.
stand your ground and show who is boss, 9 out of 10 will come crawling back. some immediately, knowing they lost a good deal which may take very long to find or never to be found again. some do so after months, the money they already earned cannot last long given their addiction to expensive lifestyle.
at $15k a month, which is $500 a day, a girl born in a poor or average family wanting to spend her parents' monthly salary in just days is definitely an absolute piece of shit. even treated as commodity, the small circle of rich even joke about exchanging their sugarbabies, in private talk or even publicly phrased as jokes.
sugarbabies expecting super rich sugardaddies are never any self-respecting women. but that malehost bro say something about good sluts and bad sluts and, not sure if what he is thinking is also what i am thinking, so hope he elaborate more.
jason_
05-04-2015, 06:17 PM
there is market for 2-3k, 5k , 10k or more.
doesn't mean more money is better. Pay what you can afford. As I said, surprisingly my best SBs are in the 3k range. Now I rather get those less than 5k. Save money and more satisfying. The money saved to be used to shower them with gifts.
finally some good sense here. those who support the crazy prices, you are so cookoo.you are not those who can afford their $20k quotation, you are the low-ballers they sneer at, is it not ironical you support those prostitutes? this is what you deserve... HAHAHAHAHA low-ballers.
stevehunting
05-04-2015, 06:38 PM
Can pm me? Thanks
stevehunting
05-04-2015, 06:39 PM
Wow! TS that site u said..i just got a pm from someone! Im so excited. Brb
Can pm me?
TehOping
05-04-2015, 06:41 PM
So say around 1k per month for 3 yrs? 36k?
Hello sis hugs.. u can take up endowment plans from those insurance companies if u are unsure of the amount to save each month. It will also kind of 'force' u to save a fixed amount each month so by the maturity date u get back the principal amount plus interests. Certainly much better than putting yr money in a bank where the interest rate is literally non-existent :)
TehOping
05-04-2015, 07:02 PM
The thing about exclusivity is an illusion.
I don't think it is the amount. You can never be 7x24 with your sb - even if you are meeting everyday. And if a girl can take 10k to 20k a month from you - don't believe it will be exclusive because she can get the same amount from another guy easily. I learnt it the hard way.
exclusivity is only possible if she truly loves you and not your money. If she loves you it can be totally free. Otherwise someone can pay more and you can't be sure if she will be faithful.
Hahaa. I learnt it the hard way also that a sd can also have multiple sb at the same time... when he claimed that i was the only one so i should take the pill and we could f without condom.
It goes both ways la.. some sb might scam potential sd and some asshole sd might take advantage of the sb. I guess we just have to screen more thoroughly and cross fingers hope for the best.
:p
Im only for 1. He found me le. Good luck to your search k?
Hahaa. I learnt it the hard way also that a sd can also have multiple sb at the same time... when he claimed that i was the only one so i should take the pill and we could f without condom.
It goes both ways la.. some sb might scam potential sd and some asshole sd might take advantage of the sb. I guess we just have to screen more thoroughly and cross fingers hope for the best.
:p
True. Will call my agent tomorrow. Hello sis hugs.. u can take up endowment plans from those insurance companies if u are unsure of the amount to save each month. It will also kind of 'force' u to save a fixed amount each month so by the maturity date u get back the principal amount plus interests. Certainly much better than putting yr money in a bank where the interest rate is literally non-existent :)
urkidding
05-04-2015, 09:22 PM
I am expecting a good story here. Why are you people quarreling and spoiling the mood?
Can sis legswideopen continue your narration?
:D
urkidding
05-04-2015, 09:23 PM
A little introduction...
I was an escort for a little while previously. When I approached the agency, I thought it would really be more like an escort companion (a date followed by play time) instead of just straight up wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am sex.
Long story short, I was sick of being under-compensated by my agent (think, me collecting 1.5k, but have to transfer 1k to them). Also, there were more than a couple of bad clients that I had to face - pushy about not using condoms, asking me for more time without paying, etc. One guy asked if he could spit on me (like you know how a certain group of FTs do?), I refused, but he did it anyway. Suffice it to say, I was quite traumatised by the lack of respect I was getting. Yes, I was being paid, but I am still human after all.
Thus started my foray into sugaring. I created a profile on a sugar website, and the messages came pouring in almost immediately. Personally, I find talking about money tacky - my expectations are clearly stated on my profile, and if they were messaging me, surely they have read my profile first, right? Wrong.
There were the lowballers ("$300 overnight for a test run?" Dude, you think this is Groupon 90% off?) Perhaps my expectations were high because of my knowledge of the FL scene. Such lowballers were absolutely abhorrent and repulsive to me. Really guys, if you can't afford a SB, don't get a SB.
And then there were the meet ups with potentials....
Please continue! pitching tent!:D
TehOping
05-04-2015, 09:25 PM
Im only for 1. He found me le. Good luck to your search k?
Im not looking already lol. That was quite some time ago :) now happy with my current sd
Meow^^
05-04-2015, 10:12 PM
Hey sis meow.. im coming to taiwan lolz but not so soon
What do u call a guy who bitch? :D
Woot. That's nice and guys who bitches actually belong to the gay category :D
super_duper108
05-04-2015, 10:28 PM
The thing about exclusivity is an illusion.
I don't think it is the amount. You can never be 7x24 with your sb - even if you are meeting everyday. And if a girl can take 10k to 20k a month from you - don't believe it will be exclusive because she can get the same amount from another guy easily. I learnt it the hard way.
exclusivity is only possible if she truly loves you and not your money. If she loves you it can be totally free. Otherwise someone can pay more and you can't be sure if she will be faithful.
I think 3k, meet once a week is about right.
PPGirl
05-04-2015, 11:07 PM
Woot. That's nice and guys who bitches actually belong to the gay category :D
Lol thats something new.
Just bck from hip hop gig.. its cool with all d hip hop artists from malaysia, LA n the locals
mutantchicken
05-04-2015, 11:12 PM
To me, the difference between a FL and SB is quite ambiguous. Same same but different, you know? I will say that if you are looking for exclusivity, then you should be prepared to pay for it. $15-20k should not be surprising. Think of it as "retainer".
If a SD only wants 1-2 meet ups a week (which seems to be the norm), they usually are only willing to fork out 3-5k max. Full time sugars who don't have a supplementary income will obviously be dating others, thus getting a reasonable sum per month (hair, nails, clothes, etc to keep us looking good don't come free).
The difference of course is that we are paid to date, not fuck. SDs usually emphasize on having chemistry and companionship. As a girl I feel more comfortable with this arrangement as well. I do enjoy dating older men, but I am getting paid to compensate for the fact that this will never amount to anything more. Feelings may develop, and there is nothing wrong with that as long as both parties understand the ephemeral nature of the relationship.
Other SBs may think differently. Everyone has their own MO :)
shit if this is how all women think..i would tell them to go fuck themselves and get a job where they can fend for themselves
mutantchicken
05-04-2015, 11:41 PM
dude, dont preach if you dont know what the other party is going through. and i was just sharing the kind of lowballers i encountered. maybe to you 2k monthly for meetups 5x a week is acceptable but to me it's just downright cheapo. maybe if you offer that to a china wl they MIGHT accept. and then screw around behind yr back to get more cash lol.
we all have our own difficulties. u can judge for all u want but do you think we actually WANT to do this? u might think we are lazy and not willing to 'work' for the money. u tell me.. how many people u know can actually manage to save up their 4 whole yrs of uni fees (for those curious, 4 yrs uni fees is about 3k/sem and this is just BASIC fees). u earn 2k monthly minus CPF minus living expenses minus rent if you're living alone and no family help on student loans. take home pay is less than 1k. imagine if you work at fast food outlets earning min wage $6/hr. IF YOU manage to do it then wow i really salute u because it is HARD.
oh and who say i need to spread my legs to get promotions? u sure are very judgey. just because we receive a little help on our way to completing our degrees doesn't mean we are 'rotten'. u sound like yr promotions got stolen by another pussy cos yr boss is a male. then u should not put the blame entirely on the pussy cos the boss is obviously not professional enough and his dick stole all the blood from his brain. look at 2 sides of a coin. when there's a demand there's a supply ;)
wow the way this lady talks you know she is well educated...
subarutay
06-04-2015, 12:10 AM
Is so waste of money to have SB. Even you are rich , spend your money in a meaningful way, money don't come from heaven . Spend wisely
zinedine zidane
06-04-2015, 02:22 AM
Wow! TS that site u said..i just got a pm from someone! Im so excited. Brb
Eh... Simi site? Share share leh.. ;)
DO_YOU_BJ
06-04-2015, 02:26 AM
edit edit edit
MaleHost
06-04-2015, 09:50 AM
.........stop......
dear sis hugs, i keep my word, give me a hug, and a kiss as well, hehehe.
MaleHost
06-04-2015, 09:54 AM
wow the way this lady talks you know she is well educated...
education means nothing if no brains, look at her weak arguments. to these young people, education is just 死读书，读死书，读书死.
seabass
06-04-2015, 10:10 AM
education means nothing if no brains, look at her weak arguments. to these young people, education is just 死读书，读死书，读书死.
Are u Jason_ ?
MaleHost
06-04-2015, 10:13 AM
Im not looking already lol. That was quite some time ago :) now happy with my current sd
good for you that you have your $15k to $20k per month (hope this is what you really get). no wonder you sneer at the low ballers. cherish him using your 100% obedience and submission, there are only about 20,000 individuals in singapore with incomes that can afford it, and most of them being high IQ people rather do other things with their incomes. you have better chance targetting 管二代，富二代，公子哥 without the IQ but has lots of wealth due to parents or even earlier generations, but marrying into the family 野鸡登上枝头变凤凰 is almost impossible with starting point as sugarbaby.
funny so little zapping on me, i thought males say sense get zapped by those who disagree but no up by those who agree, talk non-sense get zapped too. unlike females, being rarer here, can get away with anything.
MaleHost
06-04-2015, 10:16 AM
Are u Jason_ ?
no, but i read his posts and like his line of argument. are you ppbitch? you sound like her.
seabass
06-04-2015, 10:26 AM
no, but i read his posts and like his line of argument. are you ppbitch? you sound like her.
Are u LWCJ?
legswideopen
06-04-2015, 10:46 AM
Are u LWCJ?
What's LWCJ??? :confused:
nachos84
06-04-2015, 11:43 AM
Man! I'm just waiting for TS to continue with her stories. Let the lady do her job and what she set out to do. As for exposing SD, no names no shames. Some spices here and there and wala.. it's a great story to listen to. Listen with an open mind and enjoy the experience. You can choose to believe, or choose to believe only partially or even just totally think it's bullshit. Everyone got different experience to form up what opinion he or she has. Just remember there is always two sides to a coin.
Everyone here got his or her points coming to the merits ( or demerits ) of a SB /SD rs. To each his/her own. Some people live with 2K a month, others need 20k. There are people who asked for 400k a month too in divorce settlement. We all know who that is. Who is to judge? even the high court will not tell her that her pussy is not worth that amount. It's just based on how much contribution she had made in the previous family she was in.
in the same light, a SB will also have her own demands. We are not in the position to judge for them.
WosW and malehost had made some facts regarding the practicality of being a SB and their expectations. I tend to agree more to those facts ( not the name callings and insulting - that's not warranted ) . 20k a month for SB.. it's possible but few and far in between. It's literally a full time job and if you are good at it.. it's not impossible. Then again, for someone who can afford it .. is either super rich and married ( in that case you are probably more like a mistress ) or unmarried ( in this case you are probably like one of the girl he is doing because i'm pretty sure he will have many other girls who are waiting just to get to his wallet - or his marriage proposal - that would be a bigger windfall ).
At the end of the day, I do feel there is a general decline in the recent generation to understand what is basic needs and what is luxury. shopping and looking good, being able to take taxi to go around is already the social norm. If you dont get to do these, life is of poor quality.
This is very sad.
super_duper108
06-04-2015, 11:47 AM
Man! I'm just waiting for TS to continue with her stories. Let the lady do her job and what she set out to do. As for exposing SD, no names no shames. Some spices here and there and wala.. it's a great story to listen to. Listen with an open mind and enjoy the experience. You can choose to believe, or choose to believe only partially or even just totally think it's bullshit. Everyone got different experience to form up what opinion he or she has. Just remember there is always two sides to a coin.
Everyone here got his or her points coming to the merits ( or demerits ) of a SB /SD rs. To each his/her own. Some people live with 2K a month, others need 20k. There are people who asked for 400k a month too in divorce settlement. We all know who that is. Who is to judge? even the high court will not tell her that her pussy is not worth that amount. It's just based on how much contribution she had made in the previous family she was in.
in the same light, a SB will also have her own demands. We are not in the position to judge for them.
WosW and malehost had made some facts regarding the practicality of being a SB and their expectations. I tend to agree more to those facts ( not the name callings and insulting - that's not warranted ) . 20k a month for SB.. it's possible but few and far in between. It's literally a full time job and if you are good at it.. it's not impossible. Then again, for someone who can afford it .. is either super rich and married ( in that case you are probably more like a mistress ) or unmarried ( in this case you are probably like one of the girl he is doing because i'm pretty sure he will have many other girls who are waiting just to get to his wallet - or his marriage proposal - that would be a bigger windfall ).
At the end of the day, I do feel there is a general decline in the recent generation to understand what is basic needs and what is luxury. shopping and looking good, being able to take taxi to go around is already the social norm. If you dont get to do these, life is of poor quality.
This is very sad.
Well said !!
TehOping
06-04-2015, 01:52 PM
good for you that you have your $15k to $20k per month (hope this is what you really get). no wonder you sneer at the low ballers. cherish him using your 100% obedience and submission, there are only about 20,000 individuals in singapore with incomes that can afford it, and most of them being high IQ people rather do other things with their incomes. you have better chance targetting 管二代，富二代，公子哥 without the IQ but has lots of wealth due to parents or even earlier generations, but marrying into the family 野鸡登上枝头变凤凰 is almost impossible with starting point as sugarbaby.
funny so little zapping on me, i thought males say sense get zapped by those who disagree but no up by those who agree, talk non-sense get zapped too. unlike females, being rarer here, can get away with anything.
And again, off you go to your own little world of rants. Why are u so bitter about this kind of arrangement?? :confused:
never have i mentioned that i was asking for 10-20k a month. I merely stated that 2k a month for 5x a week is lowballing which is true. And yes i sneer at lowballers cos thats what they deserve. If they want that kind of frequency for that amount they should look elsewhere.. perhaps a wl from china or thailand? Even idiots know that nobody in the right mind will agree to 5x a week meetups for 2k monthly. If the sb agree then highly likely she will run off with the initial payment like what a bro shared in his thread.
For ur info im very happy with my current sd now. I graduated with honours with his help and am now earning a decent salary. We could have parted ways but it was difficult to let go as we are very close and we RESPECT each other. Thats the key word there.. it's RESPECT.. which u clearly dont have. Especially towards pussies.
U tio zapped cos u are being a bittergourd in a sex forum. Dont just blame everything on us pussies.
Still waiting for ts to share more. Can compare 'notes' haha :D
solarflare
06-04-2015, 02:11 PM
And again, off you go to your own little world of rants. Why are u so bitter about this kind of arrangement?? :confused:
never have i mentioned that i was asking for 10-20k a month. I merely stated that 2k a month for 5x a week is lowballing which is true. And yes i sneer at lowballers cos thats what they deserve. If they want that kind of frequency for that amount they should look elsewhere.. perhaps a wl from china or thailand? Even idiots know that nobody in the right mind will agree to 5x a week meetups for 2k monthly. If the sb agree then highly likely she will run off with the initial payment like what a bro shared in his thread.
For ur info im very happy with my current sd now. I graduated with honours with his help and am now earning a decent salary. We could have parted ways but it was difficult to let go as we are very close and we RESPECT each other. Thats the key word there.. it's RESPECT.. which u clearly dont have. Especially towards pussies.
U tio zapped cos u are being a bittergourd in a sex forum. Dont just blame everything on us pussies.
Still waiting for ts to share more. Can compare 'notes' haha :D
Read the whole thread and only sis brought out the keyword of respect!! This entire thread simply lacks this word.
xxxaddict
06-04-2015, 03:54 PM
i'm just waiting for more confessions from the sugar baby
instead, i had to wade through all the other distracting posts.
can we all just agree to disagree and let TS continue with her "confessions"?
cheers
terminator33
06-04-2015, 05:31 PM
i'm just waiting for more confessions from the sugar baby
instead, i had to wade through all the other distracting posts.
can we all just agree to disagree and let TS continue with her "confessions"?
cheers
Why you so kan cheong. .
T'S could have ignored the comments and continue with her confessions but she chose to respond .
To be fair everyone is entitled to their 2 cents worth and you can't everyone to keep quiet to watch the show.
MaleHost
06-04-2015, 05:48 PM
For ur info im very happy with my current sd now. I graduated with honours with his help and am now earning a decent salary. We could have parted ways but it was difficult to let go as we are very close and we RESPECT each other. Thats the key word there.. it's RESPECT.. which u clearly dont have. Especially towards pussies.
U tio zapped cos u are being a bittergourd in a sex forum. Dont just blame everything on us pussies.
Still waiting for ts to share more. Can compare 'notes' haha :D
which self-respecting woman will sell herself? your stupidity really hit sky limit, asking for respect from others when you do not even respect yourself.
zap is what i want, so another evidence of low quality grads nowadays, honours degree, wow, nowadays honours degree so lousy indeed.
i heard some females sleep with their lecturers in exchange for good grades, a sugarbaby who is not self-respecting, we can guess.
siam66
06-04-2015, 05:58 PM
Waaaa ..... here so happening lei :eek:.... camping with pop corn & singha beer :D
terminator33
06-04-2015, 06:03 PM
And again, off you go to your own little world of rants. Why are u so bitter about this kind of arrangement?
For ur info im very happy with my current sd now. I graduated with honours with his help and am now earning a decent salary. We could have parted ways but it was difficult to let go as we are very close and we RESPECT each other. Thats the key word there.. it's RESPECT.. which u clearly dont have. Especially towards pussies.
:D
don't say until so nice. If really very close and respect you we wouldn't take a cent now that you can earn your keep. It will make your argument about respect stand the ground.
If you collect money in exchange for sex when you are capable of earning it yourself, what is the difference between you and another sb / fl.
For me I never under any illusion. No matter how close I am with sb the only thing that is important is the money. Take away the money and we can talk real respect
terminator33
06-04-2015, 06:27 PM
Man! I'm just waiting for TS to continue with her stories. Let the lady do her job and what she set out to do. As for exposing SD, no names no shames. Some spices here and there and wala.. it's a great story to listen to. Listen with an open mind and enjoy the experience. You can choose to believe, or choose to believe only partially or even ..
Everyone here got his or her points coming to the merits ( or demerits ) of a SB /SD rs. To each his/her own. Some people live with 2K a month, others need 20k. There are people who asked for 400k a month too in divorce settlement. We all know who that is. Who is to judge? even the high court will not tell her that her pussy is not worth that amount. It's just based on how much contribution she had made in the previous family she was in.
This is very sad.
No one stopping TS from sharing.
comparison to divorce settlement is not valid. Sd/sb just a pure financial arrangements. Marriage is much much more than that.
ts shouldn't make assumption about what is the right amount. There is market for many segments.
anikisan
06-04-2015, 10:50 PM
no offense, but my dear, everyone knows it's far cheaper to get a gf/mistress to bonk then to go for a fb. at most, go fl, and they get the sex but w/o the drama...
to most men, sb = fl, just that it is more 'exclusive' only. pls la if they really want exclusivity, gf is still the best la...those who love them kind.
there are a lot of bastards ard. play smart.
To me, the difference between a FL and SB is quite ambiguous. Same same but different, you know? I will say that if you are looking for exclusivity, then you should be prepared to pay for it. $15-20k should not be surprising. Think of it as "retainer".
If a SD only wants 1-2 meet ups a week (which seems to be the norm), they usually are only willing to fork out 3-5k max. Full time sugars who don't have a supplementary income will obviously be dating others, thus getting a reasonable sum per month (hair, nails, clothes, etc to keep us looking good don't come free).
The difference of course is that we are paid to date, not fuck. SDs usually emphasize on having chemistry and companionship. As a girl I feel more comfortable with this arrangement as well. I do enjoy dating older men, but I am getting paid to compensate for the fact that this will never amount to anything more. Feelings may develop, and there is nothing wrong with that as long as both parties understand the ephemeral nature of the relationship.
Other SBs may think differently. Everyone has their own MO :)
TehOping
06-04-2015, 11:54 PM
don't say until so nice. If really very close and respect you we wouldn't take a cent now that you can earn your keep. It will make your argument about respect stand the ground.
If you collect money in exchange for sex when you are capable of earning it yourself, what is the difference between you and another sb / fl.
For me I never under any illusion. No matter how close I am with sb the only thing that is important is the money. Take away the money and we can talk real respect
Dont just assume that i was the one who wanted the money even after i graduate. He is a married man and i have no wish to become his 'gf' or his 'mistress'. Take away that money and thats what i will be. In a way the money will draw the line on my expectations.. He was the one who wanted to continue giving me allowance as we really get along well and he wanted me to save more for my future.
Respect is not just about taking money. To you it seems that money is all u talk about. If you have a proper gf outside of marriage she is ur mistress. Lets say u dont pay her anything not even her rent bills shopping etc.. she will naturally expect something from u that is of no monetary value. At least with monthly allowance i know where i stand and i respect his choices. Wouldnt want to cause any harm to his family whatsoever.
When u take away the money u are just digging a hole for urself. My sd is one of the best men ive encountered in my life hence we lasted so long. His logic is that why would i want to stop taking my monthly allowance when i can earn my salary plus his allowance and this extra money would go into my future home funds. So dont just assume i am the money minded bitch here -.-
To me this arrangement is like having a companion, a friend and a lover all at once. And i was lucky i get to find someone who respect and understood my choices. Plus the sex is :D :D :D so why would we want to stop?? Is it wrong for him to want to take care of me? And am i being condemned because i accepted his offer? I would think of this from the perspective of the glass is half full instead of half empty.
Just sharing my 2cents since ts have stopped sharing haha.
oh and i didnt sleep with my lecturers pls. Half of them are female and i aint a lesbian thanks.
nachos84
07-04-2015, 12:09 AM
No one stopping TS from sharing.
comparison to divorce settlement is not valid. Sd/sb just a pure financial arrangements. Marriage is much much more than that.
ts shouldn't make assumption about what is the right amount. There is market for many segments.
With so much rant and insults going on.. i'm pretty sure TS is not so keen to come back here to be insulted. So yes no one is stopping her, but we are certainly discouraging her.
The comparison is not about divorce. The key issue is everyone has his or her own living standard here.
wokaycupid
07-04-2015, 01:34 AM
Camping here like postmortem
Do continue your personal stories! Starting a bonfire now and bringing the in the marshmallows and toaster!
MaleHost
07-04-2015, 07:18 AM
ya lo sis.. they keep saying u are asking for 5 figures a month when u merely stated the market rate. maybe too excited to read yr replies until the eyes nv see and read properly :eek:
the TS SB stated going rate $15k to $20k. the 2nd SB support, this quote is evidence, yet when asked if her own SD pay her this amount she said it is not. ironical right?
if the going rate for a security guard job is $1200, nobody will accept $600. 2nd SB even if take $7.5k to $10k from SD means her honours degree is milled (like those from degree mills).
i like the line of argument by jason. to get a basic degree in the past is not easy, both the rigour and rarity since reserved for less than 20% at,my time. at jason's time, he is older, so even lower percentage. but today, 55% can get degree in one form or another, i guess a basic pass degree at my time 15 years ago beats honours degree today, not to mention i have honours degree, hehehe...
as a student with O-level aggregate 6 points for 6 subjects who enter RJ, and that was so many years back when good grades are much more rare, these two SB cannot hold a candle to me. and I also have straight distinctions in A-Level, at a time when straight distinctions is one-quarter among all RJ students, today three-quarter of RJ students get straight distinctions I heard so today it is no big deal.
so the two SB 不要关公面前耍大刀 and keep disgracing yourselves using poor deduction skills.
2nd SB wrongly deduced that I disrespect women. I respect self-respecting women, even foodcourt cleaner auntie and toilet cleaner I respect more than you. did I not show respect to hugs? either you read selectively or you are partially blind or your brain needs to be checked.
your SD is married man, will you accept your husband having undergrad SB in future? now I hope you can finally see why, even if you have master or doctorate degree, I still give you "pui pui pui".
xxxaddict
07-04-2015, 12:28 PM
the TS SB stated going rate $15k to $20k. the 2nd SB support, this quote is evidence, yet when asked if her own SD pay her this amount she said it is not. ironical right?
if the going rate for a security guard job is $1200, nobody will accept $600. 2nd SB even if take $7.5k to $10k from SD means her honours degree is milled (like those from degree mills).
i like the line of argument by jason. to get a basic degree in the past is not easy, both the rigour and rarity since reserved for less than 20% at,my time. at jason's time, he is older, so even lower percentage. but today, 55% can get degree in one form or another, i guess a basic pass degree at my time 15 years ago beats honours degree today, not to mention i have honours degree, hehehe...
as a student with O-level aggregate 6 points for 6 subjects who enter RJ, and that was so many years back when good grades are much more rare, these two SB cannot hold a candle to me. and I also have straight distinctions in A-Level, at a time when straight distinctions is one-quarter among all RJ students, today three-quarter of RJ students get straight distinctions I heard so today it is no big deal.
so the two SB 不要关公面前耍大刀 and keep disgracing yourselves using poor deduction skills.
2nd SB wrongly deduced that I disrespect women. I respect self-respecting women, even foodcourt cleaner auntie and toilet cleaner I respect more than you. did I not show respect to hugs? either you read selectively or you are partially blind or your brain needs to be checked.
your SD is married man, will you accept your husband having undergrad SB in future? now I hope you can finally see why, even if you have master or doctorate degree, I still give you "pui pui pui".
lol, you "pui pui pui" them.
their SD "pew pew pew" them.
nowadays, my respect is reserved for Yusof Ishak
MaleHost
07-04-2015, 01:37 PM
lol, you "pui pui pui" them.
their SD "pew pew pew" them.
nowadays, my respect is reserved for Yusof Ishak
nice joke bro, i think these two SB worship yusof ishak more than you that they sell themselves for "him".
seabass
07-04-2015, 01:46 PM
nice joke bro, i think these two SB worship yusof ishak more than you that they sell themselves for "him".
Are u LWCJ aka peeper
clustertrinket
07-04-2015, 02:14 PM
Dont just assume that i was the one who wanted the money even after i graduate. He is a married man and i have no wish to become his 'gf' or his 'mistress'. Take away that money and thats what i will be. In a way the money will draw the line on my expectations.. He was the one who wanted to continue giving me allowance as we really get along well and he wanted me to save more for my future.
Respect is not just about taking money. To you it seems that money is all u talk about. If you have a proper gf outside of marriage she is ur mistress. Lets say u dont pay her anything not even her rent bills shopping etc.. she will naturally expect something from u that is of no monetary value. At least with monthly allowance i know where i stand and i respect his choices. Wouldnt want to cause any harm to his family whatsoever.
Thanks for penning your perspective here. Very nicely put. Not trying to praise you or what, but that's what my past SBs believe in as well and in our opinion that's the right attitude to take. There's less chance for misunderstanding or misalignment of expectations this way.
Well said, sis.
Wintermelontea
07-04-2015, 02:54 PM
Hello all.
I know a couple or couples that argue everyday, no, in fact they quarrel about anything and yet they are together (for years).
I have seen with my own eyes how a business relationship sour due to money and manpower issues. Needless to say, that business broke up.
I believe in SD/SB relationship is just like any of the 2 examples that I have put forth. It is a delicate yet mysterious sort of arrangement. Is it only money? Or perhaps at one point in time, real feelings gotten involved? Maybe both?
I once heard and was told this:
"Bro, if you want to be a player, make darn sure that you do not put in feelings into that relationship. Once you do, you are doomed. Thus, you lose the game."
Very often when I see SB coming into this forum and start their protocol, I think about the above - player versus played out...the money way. Why? Because, the first and foremost a SB is looking for is to solve her money issues. No matter what is on her mind, it cannot be denied that money is the priority. Anything else doesn't really matters.
Over to the SD end; sex, companionship, want-to-have-the-date-feel or whatever the SD chose to call it, it is still SEX. Just like can there be platonic SD/SB relationship between the paying man and the receiving woman? I don't know.
So, TS if you are still reading this, carry on your story. This is a public domain. Needless to say, take a bucket or two; heck, take three buckets even for the salt that surely will pour and overflow those buckets. Bite the bullet and push through your end of the story which quite a few of us are waiting to see and hear.
All the best to your life. And,
Peace everyone. Peace.
MaleHost
07-04-2015, 05:11 PM
Are u LWCJ aka peeper
if your way of CSI is this kind of way, please quit doing CSI. tell you what, you do your CSI and announce conclusion publicly. if you really do that, i will return your favour by doing my own CSI to point the things you miss out, but please be mentally prepared that the inability to spot obvious important clues will have implications on mental capability and ability to 举一反三.
discordpiggy
07-04-2015, 05:48 PM
no offense, but my dear, everyone knows it's far cheaper to get a gf/mistress to bonk then to go for a fb. at most, go fl, and they get the sex but w/o the drama...
to most men, sb = fl, just that it is more 'exclusive' only. pls la if they really want exclusivity, gf is still the best la...those who love them kind.
there are a lot of bastards ard. play smart.
I think your last statement says it all! a guy who thinks like a fuckbuddy pretending to be your bf = Bastard. point noted. thanks for your invaluable advice, i learnt something :D
.... Think of it as "retainer".
.......Other SBs may think differently. Everyone has their own MO :)
i haven't seen something this intelligent since the departure of my IPO "banker".
The concept of SD/SB has evolved and commercialized... with the sugary names. Traditionally it is just married men and mistresses 小三s, and yes in the olden days, it is more of companionship.
Commercialization has deteriorated the value and demand and supply also comes into play. that's why there are those asking for as low as 2k.
I did a little experiment on pricing. I realised those who knows the real VALUE, will accept the highest pricing without any bargain. Those are the genuine masters to serve.
:D
<<totally>>
07-04-2015, 06:36 PM
Who bring in family har? Must you do that to make me appear? Anyway I can see that you are going to be red soon. :D
You want me to start a campaign that say something like "Zap malehost get my +10" Btw I did zapped you. :D
terminator33
07-04-2015, 08:21 PM
Dont just assume that i was the one who wanted the money even after i graduate. He is a married man and i have no wish to become his 'gf' or his 'mistress'. Take away that money and thats what i will be. In a way the money will draw the line on my expectations.. He was the one who wanted to continue giving me allowance as we really get along well and he wanted me to save more for my future.
When u take away the money u are just digging a hole for urself. My sd is one of the best men ive encountered in my life hence we lasted so long. His logic is that why would i want to stop taking my monthly allowance when i can earn my salary plus his allowance and this extra money would go into my future home funds. So dont just assume i am the money minded bitch here -.-
To me this arrangement is like having a companion, a friend and a lover all at once. And i was lucky i get to find someone who respect and understood my choices. Plus the sex is :D :D :D so why would we want to stop?? Is it wrong for him to want to take care of me? And am i being condemned because i accepted his offer? I would think of this from the perspective of the glass is half full instead of half empty.
.
I can't for a moment understand the sense self-righteousness. But wait, actually I can. this is what the new generation is all about.
Now understand this. You accepted money in exchange for sex. this is a fact - it does not matter if he is forcing you to keep the cash. He wanting you to take the cash does not diminish the deal - sex for cash. so don't talk about not wanting to harm his family.
I have more respect for a FL or SB that outright says they out for money. Yes, it is not pretty not glorious but they earned it. I have less respect for people like you - accepting the cash and then deflecting to the man wanting you to keep the cash. Whether you like it or not, you accept the cash - you are automatically the money minded bitch - to use your words.
If he really is that good - he would give you cash with no sexual favors. If you really that good and don't want to harm his family - you wouldnt just think about yourself - the cash and the sexual enjoyment. What about his wife? You not harming her?
FLs & SBs never said they don't harm others family cos the man himself at fault for seeking sex outside of marriage. But you, you seem so happy to have cash forced upon you, enjoy the sex and yet proclaim you not harming his family.
I have no problem with SBs or FL wanting to earn a living. But don't paint yourself so gloriously. Think about others.
terminator33
07-04-2015, 08:22 PM
Who bring in family har? Must you do that to make me appear? Anyway I can see that you are going to be red soon. :D
You want me to start a campaign that say something like "Zap malehost get my +10" Btw I did zapped you. :D
lai lai lai.. zap zap zap
terminator33
07-04-2015, 08:24 PM
With so much rant and insults going on.. i'm pretty sure TS is not so keen to come back here to be insulted. So yes no one is stopping her, but we are certainly discouraging her.
The comparison is not about divorce. The key issue is everyone has his or her own living standard here.
No loss really... if you ask me.
Yes, everyone has his own living standard.. but we must also live within our means. We are not entitled to things that does not belong to us.
a story is a story.. what is the purpose of telling people how much should sb be paid? And to justify it? cos it is a full-time job?
<<totally>>
07-04-2015, 08:40 PM
lai lai lai.. zap zap zap
Why you so bad, want me to zap him? Is he ur enemy, if so you are my friend. :D
You start more power leh. Lai, u have the honour, to kickstart. :D
DO_YOU_BJ
07-04-2015, 09:23 PM
Why you so bad, want me to zap him? Is he ur enemy, if so you are my friend. :D
You start more power leh. Lai, u have the honour, to kickstart. :D
Xiang ka pager????? lol
georgemagnum
07-04-2015, 09:44 PM
Who bring in family har? Must you do that to make me appear? Anyway I can see that you are going to be red soon. :D
You want me to start a campaign that say something like "Zap malehost get my +10" Btw I did zapped you. :D
Boh jio!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
DO_YOU_BJ
07-04-2015, 09:46 PM
老大 lai liao ;)
PPGirl
07-04-2015, 09:48 PM
He at workplace haha..
yoz GM~
georgemagnum
07-04-2015, 09:49 PM
老大 lai liao ;)
Shifu lai liao .... Roll red carpet and bevy of SBs along the carpet .... Young and below 21yrs old SBs ;)
georgemagnum
07-04-2015, 09:50 PM
He at workplace haha..
yoz GM~
Yoz PPG :D
I was informed got show ..... I wont miss it ;)
PPGirl
07-04-2015, 09:51 PM
Yoz PPG :D
I was informed got show ..... I wont miss it ;)
Wow ur info was fast! :D
DO_YOU_BJ
07-04-2015, 09:51 PM
He at workplace haha..
yoz GM~
he at ur workplace do ur work for u sibo.....then u eat snake come surf SBF.......haha
PPGirl
07-04-2015, 09:53 PM
he at ur workplace do ur work for u sibo.....then u eat snake come surf SBF.......haha
Do u see me as such a person?
Im always the one whom wake him up to go work lolz
DO_YOU_BJ
07-04-2015, 09:53 PM
Shifu lai liao .... Roll red carpet and bevy of SBs along the carpet .... Young and below 21yrs old SBs ;)
谢谢老大 sell potato sell potato lol
georgemagnum
07-04-2015, 09:54 PM
Wow ur info was fast! :D
I think I'm the last few to come here for the show :D
DO_YOU_BJ
07-04-2015, 09:54 PM
Do u see me as such a person?
Im always the one whom wake him up to go work lolz
Horrible person lor. Shud just him sleep his lazy ass off mah....y wake him up from his beauty sleep. Later got pimple how?
georgemagnum
07-04-2015, 09:55 PM
谢谢老大 sell potato sell potato lol
Only shifu can force me one corner and zip up my mouth :D
PPGirl
07-04-2015, 09:56 PM
Horrible person lor. Shud just him sleep his lazy ass off mah....y wake him up from his beauty sleep. Later got pimple how?
Well if i dun wake him up, he gonna wake up in a shock!
To prevent him from d shock, i made an effort to call 1 to 2 hrs to wake him lolz. 1 or few more pimples doesnt make any difference to him :D. No worries, be it how many pimples he has, he will b d only 1 i love :p
DO_YOU_BJ
07-04-2015, 10:01 PM
Only shifu can force me one corner and zip up my mouth :D
mai anikwan gong.......steady stready ;)
DO_YOU_BJ
07-04-2015, 10:02 PM
Well if i dun wake him up, he gonna wake up in a shock!
To prevent him from d shock, i made an effort to call 1 to 2 hrs to wake him lolz. 1 or few more pimples doesnt make any difference to him :D. No worries, be it how many pimples he has, he will b d only 1 i love :p
Let him shock a few more times u wun need to wake him up anymore liao....he will auto.......
georgemagnum
07-04-2015, 10:03 PM
mai anikwan gong.......steady stready ;)
Super steady, shifu :)
georgemagnum
07-04-2015, 10:03 PM
Let him shock a few more times u wun need to wake him up anymore liao....he will auto.......
This is yet another wise advice from shifu :)
PPGirl
07-04-2015, 10:04 PM
Let him shock a few more times u wun need to wake him up anymore liao....he will auto.......
Lolz gd advice. But i cant bear to let him late for work..
Aiya u dunno his pattern :D
DO_YOU_BJ
07-04-2015, 10:09 PM
Lolz gd advice. But i cant bear to let him late for work..
Aiya u dunno his pattern :D
So u yourself WILLINGLY do one lor......so not his fault liao lol
PUN INTENDED!
PPGirl
07-04-2015, 10:12 PM
So u yourself WILLINGLY do one lor......so not his fault liao lol
PUN INTENDED!
Hmm in a way love him so willing to call him to wake him up. Another thing is can talk on d phone awhile bcos dun get to meet on wkdays haha.
Is there any way to wake up a person whom slp like a log even alarm clock also no use? :D
DO_YOU_BJ
07-04-2015, 10:15 PM
Hmm in a way love him so willing to call him to wake him up. Another thing is can talk on d phone awhile bcos dun get to meet on wkdays haha.
Is there any way to wake up a person whom slp like a log even alarm clock also no use? :D
U spoil him liao la.....next time dun hiu him. Say i teach u one....ask him go long biak lol hahaha
PPGirl
07-04-2015, 10:17 PM
U spoil him liao la.....next time dun hiu him. Say i teach u one....ask him go long biak lol hahaha
Lolz thx thx i spoil him, he spoil me same same :D
DO_YOU_BJ
07-04-2015, 10:18 PM
Lolz thx thx i spoil him, he spoil me same same :D
SPOIL liao lor like tat lol.......-ve X -ve = +ve mah....Gd Gd 手拉手一起走 tats da way
terminator33
07-04-2015, 10:37 PM
Why you so bad, want me to zap him? Is he ur enemy, if so you are my friend. :D
You start more power leh. Lai, u have the honour, to kickstart. :D
I got no enemy. .. but some people deserve to be zap
MaleHost
07-04-2015, 10:40 PM
Who bring in family har? Must you do that to make me appear? Anyway I can see that you are going to be red soon. :D
You want me to start a campaign that say something like "Zap malehost get my +10" Btw I did zapped you. :D
be my guest, moron, red or not i can still screw you until you beg for mercy.
PPGirl
07-04-2015, 10:45 PM
Names calling again. So what u did study in uni b4
I think ur lecturers feel ashamed to have u as their student
If u can screw him by all means. I want to see who get screwed instead :D
Malehost is a GAY.. BEWARE
georgemagnum
07-04-2015, 10:48 PM
Names calling again. So what u did study in uni b4
I think ur lecturers feel ashamed to have u as their student
If u can screw him by all means. I want to see who get screwed instead :D
Malehost is a GAY.. BEWARE
Gay? Siam! (Not calling siam66 bro :D )
In hokkien -> bird don't know catapult .....
MaleHost
07-04-2015, 10:50 PM
hey bro, you bring in family, some ass is going to start a campaign saying zap you to get his 10 points, watch out.
fact is, this issue involves families of SB and SD too. in future SB husband also have young SB, will it be retribution? if SD wife find out and insist on divorce, SB not at fault?
I can't for a moment understand the sense self-righteousness. But wait, actually I can. this is what the new generation is all about.
Now understand this. You accepted money in exchange for sex. this is a fact - it does not matter if he is forcing you to keep the cash. He wanting you to take the cash does not diminish the deal - sex for cash. so don't talk about not wanting to harm his family.
I have more respect for a FL or SB that outright says they out for money. Yes, it is not pretty not glorious but they earned it. I have less respect for people like you - accepting the cash and then deflecting to the man wanting you to keep the cash. Whether you like it or not, you accept the cash - you are automatically the money minded bitch - to use your words.
If he really is that good - he would give you cash with no sexual favors. If you really that good and don't want to harm his family - you wouldnt just think about yourself - the cash and the sexual enjoyment. What about his wife? You not harming her?
FLs & SBs never said they don't harm others family cos the man himself at fault for seeking sex outside of marriage. But you, you seem so happy to have cash forced upon you, enjoy the sex and yet proclaim you not harming his family.
I have no problem with SBs or FL wanting to earn a living. But don't paint yourself so gloriously. Think about others.
MaleHost
07-04-2015, 10:52 PM
Names calling again. So what u did study in uni b4
I think ur lecturers feel ashamed to have u as their student
If u can screw him by all means. I want to see who get screwed instead :D
Malehost is a GAY.. BEWARE
the bitch is back, bitching again.
PPGirl
07-04-2015, 10:52 PM
Gay? Siam! (Not calling siam66 bro :D )
In hokkien -> bird don't know catapult .....
We dunno who will beg for mercy. Hope i dun see his post saying immunity to zaps n BEG ppl to zap him lolz
Who is the one bitching abt immunity to zaps? :rolleyes:
Nah what else he knw? Only knw abt calling ppl names.
Malehost, dun ever start a flame war.
georgemagnum
07-04-2015, 10:55 PM
We dunno who will beg for mercy. Hope i dun see his post saying immunity to zaps n BEG ppl to zap him lolz
He trying to carry balls of +33 premium samster ..... ;)
Waiting for him to offer his house for sexual activities and he be the watcher :D
siam66
07-04-2015, 10:56 PM
Gay? Siam! (Not calling siam66 bro :D )
In hokkien -> bird don't know catapult .....
Hello ??? ..... tan ja siang kar pager ??? ...lol ......:D
georgemagnum
07-04-2015, 10:59 PM
Hello ??? ..... tan ja siang kar pager ??? ...lol ......:D
Paiseh ah siam66 bro ... wa kar sa la pager. Jing paiseh :D
PPGirl
07-04-2015, 10:59 PM
He trying to carry balls of +33 premium samster ..... ;)
Waiting for him to offer his house for sexual activities and he be the watcher :D
who ever zap malehost.. i throw in my additional 9 pts together with my dear 10 pts :D
pls printscreen n claim from me.
Malehost u want ur post to appear late right i help u to fulfill ur wish. Dun say i no help :D
siam66
07-04-2015, 11:04 PM
Paiseh ah siam66 bro ... wa kar sa la pager. Jing paiseh :D
Orh ....ani kuan har ..... buay hiao kin lar .... wa tio chuah tio nia ..... jin ku bo lang kar pager chuay wa liao :o .....bye 👋 :D
MaleHost
07-04-2015, 11:07 PM
who ever zap malehost.. i throw in my additional 9 pts together with my dear 10 pts :D
pls printscreen n claim from me.
my target is -200, which i said in the past, check up my past post to verify. the problem is, are you up to it? your little power can only do little bit, gather more first, help me reach my target. that will not be just immunity, but also a new record, great right?
i cannot wait to enter auspicious red zone, so let me help you bitch. here it goes:
who want to earn useless points? here is your chance zap me and claim 19 from this bitch and her pitiful useless sleepy male, keep them busy. also that campaign starter too. as they can only up once every 24 hours, keep them occupied and help me set new record if you want useless points.
PPGirl
07-04-2015, 11:08 PM
Yawnz there u go again.. bitching gay!
Are u goin to kneel once u have reach -200 pts? :rolleyes:
Seriously the more i talk/type with u, i feel more stupid.
Game start.
I wont stood to ur level to call ppl names. Only 没教养的人 will insult ppl. Study uni give u the rights to insult?
Y u bother so much whether im occupied or not? I login everyday to read post. No problem for me to login everyday.
Campaign starter is my dear. He at work liao not like u so free to post here everyday to insult ppl.
MaleHost
07-04-2015, 11:22 PM
Yawnz there u go again.. bitching gay!
Are u goin to kneel once u have reach -200 pts? :rolleyes:
Seriously the more i talk/type with u, i feel more stupid.
Game start.
I wont stoop to ur level to call ppl names. Only 没教养的人 will insult ppl.
you call me bitching gay, that is not name calling? since you like name calling yet think you are not doing it, you work as call girl?
zinedine zidane
07-04-2015, 11:26 PM
Wah... Simi taiji here? Zap war ar? Again? :D
PPGirl
07-04-2015, 11:29 PM
you call me bitching gay, that is not name calling? since you like name calling yet think you are not doing it, you work as call girl?
U say want to screw my dear.. not gay then what? U didnt bitch abt immunity to zaps? Dare to swear? Want me to list out all ur bitching abt immunity to zaps? LWCJ
I think u havent die b4. Wah... Simi taiji here? Zap war ar? Again? :D
Want to help? :D
MaleHost
07-04-2015, 11:34 PM
Wah... Simi taiji here? Zap war ar? Again? :D
just a 没家教 bitch seeking my attention and doing things to make me notice her, yucks.
PPGirl
07-04-2015, 11:41 PM
See the Bitching gay bitch... lolz
this is just part of it
it is ok, my target is to achieve immunity by being as negative as possible in points, i am now -111, my new target is -200, see how the zappers can perform. if they can bring you down 200+ points, bring jason down 300+ points, i start from +20 should be able to go below -300 points. come zappers, show me what you got, my new target is -200, after that will be -300, please do not let me wait too long.
no difference. bad guy, zap. good guy, also zap. never mind, zap until -100+, immunity achieved, like me. actually my target is -300 but zappers so useless cannot meet target.
you join just two months ago, pay for reputation and immunity,.so that you can talk like big fuck? i can also talk like big fuck then, i got immunity without paying.
how come my -100+ points suddenly become 100+ points? at -100+ points, i am immune to zapping, at 100+ people will want to anyhow zap and i will not be immune. can bros here help zap me until i am immune again by reaching red region again? red is auspicious, red then huat ah!
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truth is not recognised or rewarded, i had been zapped instead. but that is ok, for i learned once you reach below -100 points, you become immune to zapping because nobody bothers zapping you anymore, -100 or -300 makes no difference anyway. the more red it is, the more auspicious i think.
MaleHost
07-04-2015, 11:41 PM
U say want to screw my dear.. not gay then what? U didnt bitch abt immunity to zaps? Dare to swear? Want me to list out all ur bitching abt immunity to zaps? LWCJ
I think u havent die b4.
Want to help? :D
who ask your dear no brain? the more he fuck you, the more stupid he become? no wonder sleep like log. SB SD issue discussion can exclude family meh? if your dear find a sugarbaby outside, is it none of your concern?
do me a favour, ask him to go and eat shit, will make no difference to his mouth since nothing good comes out of it anyway.
PPGirl
07-04-2015, 11:42 PM
just a 没家教 bitch seeking my attention and doing things to make me notice her, yucks.
Shameless or not.. follow my writing style. Not creative enuff!
Shame shame. A gay follow a lady's way of writing hahaha
Do u know ur way of writing is so much similar to ur frd who owns a condo lolz. Thx for falling into d trap i set for u :D
Y shd i do u a favour? Do me a favour n dun let me know how u look like if not..... u go think what will happen lolz
MaleHost
07-04-2015, 11:50 PM
See the Bitching gay bitch... lolz
this is just part of it
hi call girl, thanks for compiling my words of wisdom. *clap clap clap*
but i must credit this wisdom to bro jason_, it is he who saw immunity comes in the form of auspicious red zone.
PPGirl
07-04-2015, 11:51 PM
Call me whatever u want lo.. just dun let me see u outside.
Whoever have malehost pic, can send to me. I will keep ur identity confidential.
MaleHost
07-04-2015, 11:52 PM
Shameless or not.. follow my writing style. Not creative enuff!
Shame shame. A gay follow a lady's way of writing hahaha
Do u know ur way of writing is so much similar to ur frd who owns a condo lolz. Thx for falling into d trap i set for u :D.
Y shd i do u a favour? Do me a favour n dun let me know how u look like if not..... u go think what will happen lolz
for your info, i also own condo, as well as hdb flat, impressive? hehehe.
PPGirl
07-04-2015, 11:55 PM
for your info, i also own condo, as well as hdb flat, impressive? hehehe.
I own a bungalow hows that? Talk is cheap
so what? What impress me is not what the person owns.. is his character . So what my dear slp like a log.. at least he provide me with tlc. He thinks of me 1st b4 him. Only when u in love, u will get my drift. I love him for his personality n not what he has..
MaleHost
07-04-2015, 11:57 PM
Call me whatever u want lo.. just dun let me see u outside.
Whoever have malehost pic, can send to me. I will keep ur identity confidential.
you should offer money, if no money then offer free fucking, to have my pic sent to you.
what will you do if you see me outside? let me fuck? sorry, not interested, my taste not so low.
PPGirl
08-04-2015, 12:05 AM
U need not tell me what to do. I need not tell u what i will do.
Time will tell.
I dun offer myself to any guys even thou how rich is he especially ppl like u who look dwn on ppl. Even u invite me to ur condo i also not interested.
I have my integrity.
MaleHost
08-04-2015, 12:05 AM
I own a bungalow hows that? Talk is cheap
so what? What impress me is not what the person owns.. is his character . So what my dear slp like a log.. at least he provide me with tlc. He thinks of me 1st b4 him. Only when u in love, u will get my drift. I love him for his personality n not what he has..
of course you have bungalow, being call girl is good money. but the late nights have taken a toll on your brains, i read before and remember that friend you refer to has commercial properties and private properties (not a condo like you said).
PPGirl
08-04-2015, 12:11 AM
Who? I din mention ur frd's name leh.. funny how come u knw who im referring to? Guilty meh? Lolz
Call girl in my dictionary is a girl who call my dear. Im his call girl :D
Y am i talking/typing so much to u? I go call my dear liao . Oops paiseh i think there isnt any1 u can call or look forward to meet hahaha
MaleHost
08-04-2015, 12:21 AM
U need not tell me what to do. I need not tell u what i will do.
Time will tell.
I dun offer myself to any guys even thou how rich is he especially ppl like u who look dwn on ppl. Even u invite me to ur condo i also not interested.
I have my integrity.
time will tell, and you will forget. and learn not to pick a fight you cannot win. you do not offer yourself to any man is the way it should be, nothing to boast about, but yet you seem to like the sugarbabies who say 5-digit sum per month is market rate. and stop dreaming please, only friends are welcome to my home, which should be smaller and cheaper than your bungalow.
PPGirl
08-04-2015, 12:27 AM
多积一点口德， 少造一点口业，
就是培福求福的大功德。
MaleHost
08-04-2015, 12:30 AM
Who? I din mention ur frd's name leh.. funny how come u knw who im referring to? Guilty meh? Lolz
Call girl in my dictionary is a girl who call my dear. Im his call girl :D
Y am i talking/typing so much to u? I go call my dear liao . Oops paiseh i think there isnt any1 u can call or look forward to meet hahaha
he taught me immunity through auspicious red zone, who else but him? and i know you refer to him as someone of that wealth is rare here. maybe you want me to matchmake you and him, as wife if he is single, as mistress if he is married?
Meow^^
08-04-2015, 12:36 AM
I thought when JB not around there is a little bit of peace but somehow there is still people like to take over his job lol ....
MaleHost
08-04-2015, 12:36 AM
多积一点口德， 少造一点口业，
就是培福求福的大功德。
i cannot believe these words come from someone who like to quarrel, you must have been enlightened by my wise words or your loss of words. time to sleep, good night.
PPGirl
08-04-2015, 12:42 AM
i cannot believe these words come from someone who like to quarrel, you must have been enlightened by my wise words or your loss of words. time to sleep, good night.
Pui pui pui. My chinese isnt as bad as u think. I have A2.
Its not i like to quarrel is that i dun like ppl like u to insult ppl even though that person i dunno. Who are u to insult them? Are u her parents? U have d rights? he taught me immunity through auspicious red zone, who else but him? and i know you refer to him as someone of that wealth is rare here. maybe you want me to matchmake you and him, as wife if he is single, as mistress if he is married?
is this joke of the day? Is ur own assumption that im refering to him lolz. There are far too many wealthy ppl in here just that they dun keep mention how many properties they have or flaunt their wealth.
Do u know what is humble? So what if u r rich n keep telling u r rich. Do u think d ppl ard u are truely nice to u or ur money?
If 1 day u have no money, d ppl will still stick with u?
I have go thru thicks n thins with my dear. What is love. Maybe to u, insult ppl is ur love for them. My heart only for him n not any1 else even if some1 give me 1 million.
1 truth abt u is ur personality sux to d max! Oops truth hurts
PPGirl
08-04-2015, 12:48 AM
I thought when JB not around there is a little bit of peace but somehow there is still people like to take over his job lol ....
Maybe there is another IT? :D
nachos84
08-04-2015, 12:48 AM
Time to dump this post liao.. it's just a few people here arguing.. no more related to the original thread theme.
Come one guys ( and girls ).. be civil.
PPGirl
08-04-2015, 12:49 AM
Tell d names calling be civil lolz
Put u in my ignore list just like jason_, both of u very irritating.
<<totally>>
08-04-2015, 05:42 AM
Tell d names calling be civil lolz
Put u in my ignore list just like jason_, both of u very irritating.
Very wise move. :D
MaleHost
08-04-2015, 10:21 AM
Tell d names calling be civil lolz
Put u in my ignore list just like jason_, both of u very irritating.
you should have done so earlier, i never bothered with you all along until you do your attention-seeking posts.
now chance for those wanting to earn points, zap me and claim from this attention-seeking female and her dear.
i was happily at -114 immunity level, then suddenly become 100+ points, what the heck happened i do not care but i rather go back to -114, bros help me get back immunity by zapping to deep red and claim points and also keep them busy returning favour. better if i set new record, -1000 points, that should keep them busy for quite some time and stop seeking attention.
MaleHost
08-04-2015, 10:40 AM
Very wise move. :D
wise? i had already predicted her "forget" move, i deserve the credit as it is my wise advice.
jason_
08-04-2015, 10:40 AM
Tell d names calling be civil lolz
Put u in my ignore list just like jason_, both of u very irritating.
if i am in your ignore list, why keep thinking of me? i did not think of you at all, why did you miss me so much? what if your dear become jealous?
i am at -103 rep pts for very long already, i am immune because zapping further makes no difference. bros who want rep pts zap me, a coupled here has many rep pts to reward youfor zapping me , HAHAHAHAHA. help me reach negative million points, they will need a lifetime to honour their reward, HAHAHAHAHA.
some thinking as malehost? not surprising, since he learn about immunity from me. you want to say we are the same person? HAHAHAHAHA.
PPGirl
08-04-2015, 11:21 AM
Zap malehost campaign.. pls screenshot n claim 20 pts from me :D
How come no one claim from me yet? :confused:
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