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jtjr3112
01-03-2015, 01:06 PM
Hi dear bros,

The sugar babe took my money( i transfer her via bank). Then now she missing from the deal and everything. Never reply my messages and stuff. I suspect she even block me on Whatsapp. What should i do ? Police will help ?

sammyboyfor
01-03-2015, 01:10 PM
Write off the sum and don't make the same mistake again.

MaleHost
01-03-2015, 01:14 PM
never pay upfront.

WoSW
01-03-2015, 02:05 PM
Write off the sum...

Since you have her account number...maybe can make police report?

lemonsour
01-03-2015, 02:12 PM
Write off the sum...

Since you have her account number...maybe can make police report?

no use de ... he willing give her money police cannot do anything de ... you got sbf account name ?

subidowa
01-03-2015, 02:16 PM
U are another gone case dick over brain idiot. U should know this kind of trade is COD basis. lol.
U go police I think u better be careful la. If she claims u willingly transfer and cry victim that time she got issue then u wanna mis lead her to prostitute herself she is the real victim. Then u jialat big big. Cause police will officially carry out investigation on u and ur family then the matter will blown out of proportion. But the girl will be well protected and identity hidden. So u better think twice.

terminator33
01-03-2015, 02:26 PM
Hi dear bros,

The sugar babe took my money( i transfer her via bank). Then now she missing from the deal and everything. Never reply my messages and stuff. I suspect she even block me on Whatsapp. What should i do ? Police will help ?


Is it from sbf? Her nick? How much you transfer?

Never transfer without first seeing the girl. Best is cod. Also don't agree on monthly upfront payment in the first month.

Nickochee
01-03-2015, 02:33 PM
Met frm sbf?

Ringwraiths
01-03-2015, 02:34 PM
Nvm transfer before meeting that is a taboo and greatest mistakes that a Man can made...

jtjr3112
01-03-2015, 02:40 PM
Yes bros. Met from sbf, i was in a rush to shanghai but wanted to secure her. Ask her send me off in airport suddenly say she sick. Now in china , she never reply messages already. Her nickname is wonderjes. She posted looking for sugardaddy about 1 month ago. I usually practice cod but this time. Haiz.

kenlong2003
01-03-2015, 02:41 PM
Got pic or not?

The bros here are right. Never ever do transfer via any Wire.
there is a trend in tagged where by a beautiful lady will ask you to do transfer via western union. They will claim their boss is in thai or pinoy land. so have to do transfer via western union to book them out.
but never trust these scaM. They will even ask you to the extend of $50 just for confirmation. How true we do not know. So far no bro there post any remarks. Maybe they too afraid later kanna scam or remark back as dick over brain
So be safe for your pocket. There are so many okt company in sbf. Ladies with comments and recommendation

jason_
01-03-2015, 03:22 PM
if you are sugardaddy calibre this small amount should not bother you, take it as paying to learn a lesson.

it is your word against hers. wonderjes can say she never ask for or receive any cash transfer, that she rejected you so you make up fake stories to vent your anger.

if this become police case, depending on the other details, you may get into trouble with the law, like paying or underage sex if she is below 18, or sexual grooming, etc.

ol'coyote
01-03-2015, 03:48 PM
Yes bros. Met from sbf, i was in a rush to shanghai but wanted to secure her. Ask her send me off in airport suddenly say she sick. Now in china , she never reply messages already. Her nickname is wonderjes. She posted looking for sugardaddy about 1 month ago. I usually practice cod but this time. Haiz.

you referring to this ?...
22f Undergrad looking for a sincere sugardaddy (http://sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=508480&highlight=wonderjes)...
at 1st me was interested too...
but later read her attitude not right for SB...
so didn't bother to follow thru...
at wat the others have said...write it off...learn from it...
it is oso good tat you posted your experience and the lady info...
so others are informed...tats the spirit of sharing in SBF...

Sketch
01-03-2015, 04:03 PM
Yes bros. Met from sbf, i was in a rush to shanghai but wanted to secure her. Ask her send me off in airport suddenly say she sick. Now in china , she never reply messages already. Her nickname is wonderjes. She posted looking for sugardaddy about 1 month ago. I usually practice cod but this time. Haiz.

Yup she's a fishy one.. Ask me to pay up front die die on first meeting.. I said no and told her how can I trust her that she will still see me after and told her I'm only agreeable to one payment per meet up until we can trust each other... And reminded her this is not my first SB... Lucky she back away from me when she realize cannot play play.. Like one of the bros said here.. Brain over dick.. There is still plenty of fish in the sea.. Jus need to be patient!!

I think she is back with a different nick - cos there is another girl who have asked for the same deal on the forum... Beware guys.. Brain over dick please!

SnowLeopards
01-03-2015, 04:39 PM
You should read more replies from the users in this forum.

Pierre.

postmortem
01-03-2015, 04:42 PM
The 59th Rule of Acquisition says that "free advice is seldom cheap", but anyway I've decided to post some thoughts and personal opinions based on my prior relations with my previous SBs.

(i) Always get to know a gal first before committing to monthly payment. An SD/SB relationship is a mutual thing that demands mutual respect.

(ii) Never to bank transfers until you've been with her for a while. And by a while, I mean at least several weeks to a few months.

(iii) Never spend more than what you can afford to lose.

(iv) If you get cheated, write the loss off and move on. Don't harbour ill feelings or negative emotion. Being depressed won't help you get your money back.

(v) Make it clear on the outset what you expect from each other. If she wants you to take her shopping, don't be afraid to place limits and explain how much you're willing to spend on her shopping. This comes back to the "mutual respect" thing. If both of you truly respect each other, she'll understand.

(vi) Many gals want to be SBs because they ran into financial difficulties. You have to prepared that one day they may ask you for help and you have to decide how much you are prepared to help. This comes with the territory.

(vii) If you just want a simple & straightforward sexual transaction, best to stick to FLs/escorts. Having an SB is more like a relationship than just a transaction. Expect and demand mutual respect always.

lemonsour
01-03-2015, 05:05 PM
Yes bros. Met from sbf, i was in a rush to shanghai but wanted to secure her. Ask her send me off in airport suddenly say she sick. Now in china , she never reply messages already. Her nickname is wonderjes. She posted looking for sugardaddy about 1 month ago. I usually practice cod but this time. Haiz.

next time find those meet up and pay de dun transfer ...

infinitiumus
01-03-2015, 05:10 PM
(vi) Many gals want to be SBs because they ran into financial difficulties. You have to prepared that one day they may ask you for help and you have to decide how much you are prepared to help. This comes with the territory.

(vii) If you just want a simple & straightforward sexual transaction, best to stick to FLs/escorts. Having an SB is more like a relationship than just a transaction. Expect and demand mutual respect always.

Good points.

However, not all girls want to be SBs just for the money only. And FL - if becomes too regular, will also move into the territory of 'borrowing money' - the risk you highlighted for the SB.

jtjr3112
01-03-2015, 07:48 PM
Guys i check with the bank. The account holder not even Girl name. The guy name is called lee kian long. You better beware i will csi you out and find you

nexusphone
01-03-2015, 07:59 PM
Guys i check with the bank. The account holder not even Girl name. The guy name is called lee kian long. You better beware i will csi you out and find you


The bank will not reveal account holder name without a court order.

Otherwise anyone can claim they were scammed and ask the bank to reveal the personal details of the acc holder.

How on earth did you get the account holder name

lemonsour
01-03-2015, 08:51 PM
Guys i check with the bank. The account holder not even Girl name. The guy name is called lee kian long. You better beware i will csi you out and find you

you transfer how much money to her ?

BMW69
01-03-2015, 09:05 PM
Guys i check with the bank. The account holder not even Girl name. The guy name is called lee kian long. You better beware i will csi you out and find you

LOL! Maybe he's been using this to cheat others as well. (https://www.youtube.com/user/3088lee)
If you look here, he's male but has a female profile pic. (https://plus.google.com/102098015216235997768/about)

If you're right, TS, please make a police report ASAP.

jtjr3112
01-03-2015, 09:40 PM
Guys transfer 1000. 500 each time, "she" say she kena debt from loanshark.
I remit to her via ocbc bank, cause she say deadline. Anyway the bank revealed to me to check name of beneficiary.

seabass
01-03-2015, 09:42 PM
The Liew Lian Huey stuck again.

nachos84
01-03-2015, 09:56 PM
Did you get to meet this girl in physical body?

lemonsour
01-03-2015, 09:57 PM
Guys transfer 1000. 500 each time, "she" say she kena debt from loanshark.
I remit to her via ocbc bank, cause she say deadline. Anyway the bank revealed to me to check name of beneficiary.

aiya next time dun transfer it is very dangerous ask for meet up then pay ok bro ? :)

WonderJes
01-03-2015, 10:02 PM
Hi dear bros, The sugar babe took my money( i transfer her via bank). Then now she missing from the deal and everything. Never reply my messages and stuff. I suspect she even block me on Whatsapp. What should i do ? Police will help ? why not paste the whole screenshot here and tell everyone what happen? U said u flying off to shanghai and u want me be ur sb, i said fine prove to me since you always agreed to meet and cant appear, then i told you i need to pay some debts urgently u agreed to help, then what next? You say u finding girlfriend not sb? Lols then endup u say this money is loan? And i need be ur gf? Of cus i play along with you, who ask u to be so cheapo. Finding sb but endup tell sb is finding gf? Now i ignore u , u sore and come to this forum and complain? Haha better tell forum ppl how u keep ask me be ur gf if u loan the money? Anyway u wan dig what report police or what jus go ahead. I will just stick to my story at police station.

nachos84
01-03-2015, 10:05 PM
Yup she's a fishy one.. Ask me to pay up front die die on first meeting.. I said no and told her how can I trust her that she will still see me after and told her I'm only agreeable to one payment per meet up until we can trust each other... And reminded her this is not my first SB... Lucky she back away from me when she realize cannot play play.. Like one of the bros said here.. Brain over dick.. There is still plenty of fish in the sea.. Jus need to be patient!!

I think she is back with a different nick - cos there is another girl who have asked for the same deal on the forum... Beware guys.. Brain over dick please!

Are you referring to Sleepyapple AKA Kelly?

TwentySeven
01-03-2015, 10:08 PM
What a stupid guy never meet before then transfer. Pls at least have the brain to meetup first then transfer at least. Anyway this sd sb thing also see luck, if u are lucky meet a good sb then heng, if sway meet tio take money and mia de just treat as unlucky only. Like what boss said if u can afford a true sb this sum of money is nth, if u cant then dun find a sb is not a game for poor people. :)

nachos84
01-03-2015, 10:37 PM
The 59th Rule of Acquisition says that "free advice is seldom cheap", but anyway I've decided to post some thoughts and personal opinions based on my prior relations with my previous SBs.

(i) Always get to know a gal first before committing to monthly payment. An SD/SB relationship is a mutual thing that demands mutual respect.

(ii) Never to bank transfers until you've been with her for a while. And by a while, I mean at least several weeks to a few months.

(iii) Never spend more than what you can afford to lose.

(iv) If you get cheated, write the loss off and move on. Don't harbour ill feelings or negative emotion. Being depressed won't help you get your money back.

(v) Make it clear on the outset what you expect from each other. If she wants you to take her shopping, don't be afraid to place limits and explain how much you're willing to spend on her shopping. This comes back to the "mutual respect" thing. If both of you truly respect each other, she'll understand.

(vi) Many gals want to be SBs because they ran into financial difficulties. You have to prepared that one day they may ask you for help and you have to decide how much you are prepared to help. This comes with the territory.

(vii) If you just want a simple & straightforward sexual transaction, best to stick to FLs/escorts. Having an SB is more like a relationship than just a transaction. Expect and demand mutual respect always.

Very well said.. and much appreciated for the free advise bro :)

nachos84
01-03-2015, 10:46 PM
Anyway taking the hint from Sketch.. I believe this Wonderjes and Sleepyapple are probably the same girl.. similar age, vital stats, style of writing and modus operandi .. all seems rather similar.

So a word of precaution to the guys out here.. there is someone who is going around cheating.. she can always come out with another nick and email and then go around asking for SD.

Trick to prevent this from happening again is to follow the advises of the guys here.. no upfront transfer .. get to know the girl first

postmortem
01-03-2015, 11:29 PM
Good points.

However, not all girls want to be SBs just for the money only. And FL - if becomes too regular, will also move into the territory of 'borrowing money' - the risk you highlighted for the SB.



Agree. Yes I do know of gals who want companionship as much as the guy does, and won't mind some extra pocket money if the guy is willing. Actually I do find these kind of gals most easy going and carefree. When you don't have a specific agenda or target, I guess you can be much more relaxed and behave more like your natural, usual self. Foot loose and fancy free, if you know what i mean.

I never let FLs try to borrow money from me. Want to borrow? Earn my trust first. I don't care if she has a dying grandmother or a 3 year old Shanghai-born son from a broken marriage with a fellow China dude to care for. (True stories actually told to me)

"Hear all, trust nothing" - Rule of Acquisition 190

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zinedine zidane
02-03-2015, 12:07 AM
Sigh... Until now already 2015 still do such silly things. Why u guys nv learn one ar?

Teacher got teach or not? Yes...
You got pay attention or not? No...

Sua lah, write off this expensive lesson.

DCS17
02-03-2015, 12:02 PM
Sigh... Until now already 2015 still do such silly things. Why u guys nv learn one ar?

Teacher got teach or not? Yes...
You got pay attention or not? No...

Sua lah, write off this expensive lesson.

These days teacher never teach. They expect student to go "tuition" de wor.
Even if they teach, student think they smarter then teacher. Welcome to the generation of Internet. Where they think they are god when they read online and dun ever dare to set foot in real world. Learn and be learnt;)

HeadOn
02-03-2015, 12:16 PM
Too many Lonely n horny guys to cheat.

Sen5eS
02-03-2015, 12:42 PM
why not paste the whole screenshot here and tell everyone what happen? U said u flying off to shanghai and u want me be ur sb, i said fine prove to me since you always agreed to meet and cant appear, then i told you i need to pay some debts urgently u agreed to help, then what next? You say u finding girlfriend not sb? Lols then endup u say this money is loan? And i need be ur gf? Of cus i play along with you, who ask u to be so cheapo. Finding sb but endup tell sb is finding gf? Now i ignore u , u sore and come to this forum and complain? Haha better tell forum ppl how u keep ask me be ur gf if u loan the money? Anyway u wan dig what report police or what jus go ahead. I will just stick to my story at police station.

TS - have you seen her Reply yet? she Jio u go ma da chu :D

alexvaille
02-03-2015, 02:21 PM
Wa, power.. i m just amused that if indeed base on ts reply it is the sd fault, why play the disappearing game instead of meeting the sd n return him the money? If he is not ts cup of tea, i dun believe it is tht hard to just reject him. In addition, jus curious why the account number belong to a guy.

nexusphone
02-03-2015, 03:17 PM
Wa, power.. i m just amused that if indeed base on ts reply it is the sd fault, why play the disappearing game instead of meeting the sd n return him the money? If he is not ts cup of tea, i dun believe it is tht hard to just reject him. In addition, jus curious why the account number belong to a guy.


Isn't it obviously that the guy is the one orchestrating the scam?

Anyway you find an SB already?

nachos84
02-03-2015, 03:50 PM
Wa, power.. i m just amused that if indeed base on ts reply it is the sd fault, why play the disappearing game instead of meeting the sd n return him the money? If he is not ts cup of tea, i dun believe it is tht hard to just reject him. In addition, jus curious why the account number belong to a guy.

Bro. Nice power of deduction. Cry foul but keep the money? :)

MystoJ
02-03-2015, 04:29 PM
No choice usually we men will start to use our big brother to think. Always remember do not pay upfront. Chances are u will Nv see your money turning into what you want. I have already learned my lesson...luckily is small amount...

Wah sad leh dunno who hate me ah... Zap me till -1

masterwanker
02-03-2015, 09:25 PM
Guys i check with the bank. The account holder not even Girl name. The guy name is called lee kian long. You better beware i will csi you out and find you

If have enough evidence that this is a scam you can make a police report .

Sketch
02-03-2015, 10:05 PM
Very well said.. and much appreciated for the free advise bro :)

If have enough evidence that this is a scam you can make a police report .

Actually just curious - if you tell the bank that you have transferred the money to a wrong account, would the banks retrieve the money back for you? Provided you can prove that you were transferring to Person A but Person B got the cash?

nachos84
02-03-2015, 11:59 PM
Actually just curious - if you tell the bank that you have transferred the money to a wrong account, would the banks retrieve the money back for you? Provided you can prove that you were transferring to Person A but Person B got the cash?

sadly the bank still needs the permission of the 'wrong' guy to allow them to transfer back. Stupid but that's how it is.

And the person who is orchestrating this scam is also reading this. So warning to the bros here.. NO transfer. NO upfront payment. :)

melonmilk
03-03-2015, 12:16 AM
being 'despo' to secure a 'deal' is one thing.
but being 'despo' to the extend of not able to think logically is something which cannot be defended.

bernardlee
03-03-2015, 09:53 AM
Not easy to think straight when little brother takes over the control. Sigh.

terminator33
03-03-2015, 11:33 AM
My approach to payment- after having met up and screened.

1st month: (assuming 2 meetings per week)
30% - 1st meeting
30% - 3rd meeting
30% - 5th meeting
10% - 7th meeting

2nd month onwards.
50% 1st meeting
50% 5th meeting.

3rd month onwards can adjust if necessary.

seabass
03-03-2015, 01:08 PM
So many "I told you so" replies. It is futile to advice after the con had got the one thousand dollar. Hard earn money, mind you. Put yourself in TS's shoes. I will not cast a sympathy vote here. For those who continue to give 101 reasons why we should not be a fool and part away with our money.. Continue because the fool n his gold are soon parted.


P/S. Ya you did not offend me but I don't give a rat's arse if you do.

Titties
03-03-2015, 10:51 PM
Wow, like this also got hiong ka.

nachos84
04-03-2015, 09:47 AM
My approach to payment- after having met up and screened.

1st month: (assuming 2 meetings per week)
30% - 1st meeting
30% - 3rd meeting
30% - 5th meeting
10% - 7th meeting

2nd month onwards.
50% 1st meeting
50% 5th meeting.

3rd month onwards can adjust if necessary.

I like that :)

Nicole78
05-03-2015, 11:42 PM
My approach to payment- after having met up and screened.

1st month: (assuming 2 meetings per week)
30% - 1st meeting
30% - 3rd meeting
30% - 5th meeting
10% - 7th meeting

2nd month onwards.
50% 1st meeting
50% 5th meeting.

3rd month onwards can adjust if necessary.
good tips for sugar baby and daddy

wittyman
06-03-2015, 10:22 AM
My approach to payment- after having met up and screened.

1st month: (assuming 2 meetings per week)
30% - 1st meeting
30% - 3rd meeting
30% - 5th meeting
10% - 7th meeting

2nd month onwards.
50% 1st meeting
50% 5th meeting.

3rd month onwards can adjust if necessary.

bro smart strategy, thanks for sharing :D

ah rat
06-03-2015, 03:47 PM
next time find those meet up and pay de dun transfer ...

Bro,should be meet up,F**k and then pay :) :D