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http://therealsingapore.com/content/truth-about-pes-f
THE TRUTH ABOUT PES F
Post date:
21 Feb 2015 - 11:27am
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As a Singaporean male, you'd have to spend (even if you're disgruntled about it) close to 2 years of your life to participate in our nation's conscription agenda.
If you're fit and healthy, great, you'll go to pes a or b and train at Tekong. If you've got pre-existing medical conditions, the army will categorize you according to your fitness. PES A - C will have a chance to bear arms whereas PES E personnel are channelled to offices to do desk-bound work.
PES F is the category that is avoided like a plague. There has been plenty of hearsay and rumours about what happens once you're there.
' you become a second-class citizen '
' you can't go to school'
' you can't get a job'
' you can't buy a home'
This post is written to talk about what is fact and what is fiction. Because our kind military organization has neglected to have full transparency on what happens to you after.
[ Who goes to PES F ]
Servicemen who get channelled here are labelled : ' unfit for service ' as they rightfully are. Most of the time it's serious psychological or physical limitations. Some of which are life-threathening such as cancer.
Some are permanent disabilities such as loss of limb(s).
During your checkup, the medical officer will determine if you're able to serve without hurting yourself or other people.
The sad thing is that we've seen many NSFs losing their lives during service and some volunteering to serve ( despite such conditions ) most of the time because they fear the unknown implications of being labelled PES F.
They fear that their family and the public would ostracise them, that they can't live a quality and ordinary life like everyone else who didn't need to serve ( e.g. ladies and foreigners / ns men ). As a result, out of fear, they force themselves into service, as the government forces our males to conscript.
[What happens after you PES F?]
You'll receive a letter that states you're exempt from the line in the constitution that states you need to serve your liability of national service and that you won't need to do reservist and report when you leave the country.
There are a few myths which are on everyone's mind when they are offered to be exempted because of their conditions. We hope to debunk a few of these myths here.
'You can't find a job, employers don't employ PES F'
If you don't serve the entirety of service, you won't get your COS ( cert of service ) which are required for certain public and civil service positions ( verified ). Some organizations do allow workers on a case-by case basis.
For private sectors, If you're a qualified individual who can contribute well to the organization, most don't really bother too much about what you did during your time in service ( or lack thereof ). In fact, many don't even ask for it during interviews.
It really depends.
That being said, you may not be exempt from prejudice from local-owned firms that may for unknown reasons prefer candidates who did their national service.
Let's be realistic, females and foreigners don't have to serve, why would it matter to your employers? ( not public ) it might even be preferred because you'll have no reservist obligations.
'You become a second-class citizen'
This has not been defined too clearly. From what we understand, your funds with the government are still preserved ( cpf , medisave etc ), you can travel as you wish and retain certain subsidies only for citizens ( eg schooling )
'You can't go to school'
A simple email to the admissions committee will show otherwise. Depending on your condition ( unless you are mentally unsound and pose a danger to everyone ), schools typically don't ask for your certifcate of service in the first place.
'You can't buy a home'
Check with HDB to verify this fact. Similarly, unless you're mentally incapacitated and can make your own agreements in contracts with HDB, they have no qualms about selling you a flat.
'Everyone will know'
This is a flaky myth. Your confidential medical records cannot be accessed at will by anyone except doctors or law enforcemet authority. Even then there'd have to be a really good reason.
Unless you tell someone, nobody will know ( if you're embarassed about it )
[ Why write this? ]
If you have a serious medical condition that results in a pes f status, don't volunteer to serve just because you're scared ( unless you really want to ) the medical officers prescribe this for good reason and you may be endangering yourself as well as affecting others.
Accept that you have limitations and look for other avenues to contribute to our nation besides service. Because the military is not for everyone.
Facts have been verified through medical officers, accessible govt agency channels. If you do some simple fact-checks on your own you can find plenty of information.
Be safe, not stubborn
TRS Contributor
Click here to view the whole thread at www.sammyboy.com (http://www.singsupplies.com/showthread.php?201162-The-truth-about-pes-f&goto=newpost).
http://therealsingapore.com/content/truth-about-pes-f
THE TRUTH ABOUT PES F
Post date:
21 Feb 2015 - 11:27am
http://therealsingapore.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/field/image/singapore-army_0_1.jpg?itok=nd8GlZoR (http://therealsingapore.com/sites/default/files/field/image/singapore-army_0_1.jpg)
As a Singaporean male, you'd have to spend (even if you're disgruntled about it) close to 2 years of your life to participate in our nation's conscription agenda.
If you're fit and healthy, great, you'll go to pes a or b and train at Tekong. If you've got pre-existing medical conditions, the army will categorize you according to your fitness. PES A - C will have a chance to bear arms whereas PES E personnel are channelled to offices to do desk-bound work.
PES F is the category that is avoided like a plague. There has been plenty of hearsay and rumours about what happens once you're there.
' you become a second-class citizen '
' you can't go to school'
' you can't get a job'
' you can't buy a home'
This post is written to talk about what is fact and what is fiction. Because our kind military organization has neglected to have full transparency on what happens to you after.
[ Who goes to PES F ]
Servicemen who get channelled here are labelled : ' unfit for service ' as they rightfully are. Most of the time it's serious psychological or physical limitations. Some of which are life-threathening such as cancer.
Some are permanent disabilities such as loss of limb(s).
During your checkup, the medical officer will determine if you're able to serve without hurting yourself or other people.
The sad thing is that we've seen many NSFs losing their lives during service and some volunteering to serve ( despite such conditions ) most of the time because they fear the unknown implications of being labelled PES F.
They fear that their family and the public would ostracise them, that they can't live a quality and ordinary life like everyone else who didn't need to serve ( e.g. ladies and foreigners / ns men ). As a result, out of fear, they force themselves into service, as the government forces our males to conscript.
[What happens after you PES F?]
You'll receive a letter that states you're exempt from the line in the constitution that states you need to serve your liability of national service and that you won't need to do reservist and report when you leave the country.
There are a few myths which are on everyone's mind when they are offered to be exempted because of their conditions. We hope to debunk a few of these myths here.
'You can't find a job, employers don't employ PES F'
If you don't serve the entirety of service, you won't get your COS ( cert of service ) which are required for certain public and civil service positions ( verified ). Some organizations do allow workers on a case-by case basis.
For private sectors, If you're a qualified individual who can contribute well to the organization, most don't really bother too much about what you did during your time in service ( or lack thereof ). In fact, many don't even ask for it during interviews.
It really depends.
That being said, you may not be exempt from prejudice from local-owned firms that may for unknown reasons prefer candidates who did their national service.
Let's be realistic, females and foreigners don't have to serve, why would it matter to your employers? ( not public ) it might even be preferred because you'll have no reservist obligations.
'You become a second-class citizen'
This has not been defined too clearly. From what we understand, your funds with the government are still preserved ( cpf , medisave etc ), you can travel as you wish and retain certain subsidies only for citizens ( eg schooling )
'You can't go to school'
A simple email to the admissions committee will show otherwise. Depending on your condition ( unless you are mentally unsound and pose a danger to everyone ), schools typically don't ask for your certifcate of service in the first place.
'You can't buy a home'
Check with HDB to verify this fact. Similarly, unless you're mentally incapacitated and can make your own agreements in contracts with HDB, they have no qualms about selling you a flat.
'Everyone will know'
This is a flaky myth. Your confidential medical records cannot be accessed at will by anyone except doctors or law enforcemet authority. Even then there'd have to be a really good reason.
Unless you tell someone, nobody will know ( if you're embarassed about it )
[ Why write this? ]
If you have a serious medical condition that results in a pes f status, don't volunteer to serve just because you're scared ( unless you really want to ) the medical officers prescribe this for good reason and you may be endangering yourself as well as affecting others.
Accept that you have limitations and look for other avenues to contribute to our nation besides service. Because the military is not for everyone.
Facts have been verified through medical officers, accessible govt agency channels. If you do some simple fact-checks on your own you can find plenty of information.
Be safe, not stubborn
TRS Contributor
Click here to view the whole thread at www.sammyboy.com (http://www.singsupplies.com/showthread.php?201162-The-truth-about-pes-f&goto=newpost).