can a mother of 2 still be fl ?

[aoitobymummy]

hi everyone
pardon me for the long post please
actually i got to know about this site from my ex-husband (he was a fl-club addict whom spend all our money on flower joints and fl, he might just be reading this too, i dont know)

i am 27 and have 2 kids, one 4 and one 3 months old
ive since divorced my husband in december as our marriage was getting violent and his bad habits was getting too much even after our second child

after the divorce i couldnt find anyone to take care of my second child so could only work as a part time tutor, and my ex husband totally vanished with all the warning letter for bills and everything else
the only time he came home after our divorce was to ransack the house and disappear again

out of desperation i saw this forum on our computer and remembered i saw him on it for afew times but i did not really bother to find out what it is about

i know as a 27 year old and mother of two, theres not much attraction anymore especially after being a housewife for the past few years
but would like some advise can i still be a fl ?
given the current situation i really have no other way out for myself, despite writing to the respective government bodies for help, was getting no replies or slow replies, and told me they needed time to process my help and such

i wouldnt want to do this but i have not been working full time for the past few years, and have no savings, thus this is probably my only way out.
would like to know if it is still feasible and if yes, how much can i probably earn from each time ? i have checked out the rates in this forum but i dont think given my age and situation i can fetch the high price, and i do not want to be in this for long term because of my kids.

please advise.
i can be reached at wechat id suzubell or i think can pm vie this forum.

[CodeRey]

Interested! PM me? Can't seem to send you a PM, i suppose your mail box is flooded

[cocknloaded]

my only question is.. if lets say you work FL.. who's gonna help you take care of your kids?

[CodeRey]

Yes you can

[Optimus_Prime]

For the sake of your kids, I will say switch off your computer and forget you ever saw this site.

FL is not a road for you to thread on just to tide over temporary monetary issues. It is a life changing decision.

Delete and go look for your family and friends for help. Best wishes to you.

[newlywedbride]

hi everyone
pardon me for the long post please
actually i got to know about this site from my ex-husband (he was a fl-club addict whom spend all our money on flower joints and fl, he might just be reading this too, i dont know)

i am 27 and have 2 kids, one 4 and one 3 months old
ive since divorced my husband in december as our marriage was getting violent and his bad habits was getting too much even after our second child

after the divorce i couldnt find anyone to take care of my second child so could only work as a part time tutor, and my ex husband totally vanished with all the warning letter for bills and everything else
the only time he came home after our divorce was to ransack the house and disappear again

out of desperation i saw this forum on our computer and remembered i saw him on it for afew times but i did not really bother to find out what it is about

i know as a 27 year old and mother of two, theres not much attraction anymore especially after being a housewife for the past few years
but would like some advise can i still be a fl ?
given the current situation i really have no other way out for myself, despite writing to the respective government bodies for help, was getting no replies or slow replies, and told me they needed time to process my help and such

i wouldnt want to do this but i have not been working full time for the past few years, and have no savings, thus this is probably my only way out.
would like to know if it is still feasible and if yes, how much can i probably earn from each time ? i have checked out the rates in this forum but i dont think given my age and situation i can fetch the high price, and i do not want to be in this for long term because of my kids.

please advise.
i can be reached at wechat id suzubell or i think can pm vie this forum.

Hi Sister aoitobymummy, it’s not really safe working as a FL & you may be on the wrong side of the law. You need proper paperwork. Perhaps you can work either for license Escort Agency or work FL in Kim Jio Kah if you don’t want to be under OKT. At least, they follow SOP by authority.

I come to know about this unknown Singapore RLD Kim Jio Kah from this tread ‘Milestone of Kim Jio Kah’: http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=427518

I recently post similar question http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showpost.php?p=12501807&postcount=12 on that tread.

The gentleman by the nick ‘spoonge’ post many other useful stuff under ‘Petian Romp’ section. They are in the following tread: FR on Kelly(h7r4) & Petain 1st-Timer Guide http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=17758 & Searching Whereabouts ex Kelly H7R4L2 1999~2004 http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=409402 .

After reading them, it’s obvious that this’s a discreet lucrative business location where age is never a problem.

Take care!

[demonhunter]

my only question is.. if lets say you work FL.. who's gonna help you take care of your kids?

Bring the kids along to hotel :confused:


:D

[porscheclub]

Sorry to hear of your situation. I can sponsor milk powder for your children to ease the finance for the next two years or so.

PM me & we'll work it out. Also, I'll see if there's any home based work that you can do to supplement.

I met my current wife when she's a single mum @ 35 & still hot as hell so don't give up.

[clubenjoy]

Sorry to hear of your situation. I can sponsor milk powder for your children to ease the finance for the next two years or so.

PM me & we'll work it out. Also, I'll see if there's any home based work that you can do to supplement.

I met my current wife when she's a single mum @ 35 & still hot as hell so don't give up.

For your kind acts that willing to be done. Up u my humble 18.

Cheers

[MayMassage]

I know many people are FL at the age of 30 having no less than 2 kids. It all depends on you maintain yourself. Be confident in whatever you do, you will go miles.

[LonerLoner]

Sorry to hear of your situation. I can sponsor milk powder for your children to ease the finance for the next two years or so.

PM me & we'll work it out. Also, I'll see if there's any home based work that you can do to supplement.

I met my current wife when she's a single mum @ 35 & still hot as hell so don't give up.

Noble man. Saved 3 lives (mum who have no way out n considering FL to support 2 children and you prevent her own children from having bad history).

[Jamesleejamesle]

For your kind acts that willing to be done. Up u my humble 18.

Cheers

Agree agree... Ups u my humble 3 points also

[4getful]

TS, do you have a matrimonial flat? You can sell it, downgrade to 2-rm flat. The profit from the sale can last you many many years.27yo is very young n has a very long journey to go. Do not give up hope.


http://news.omy.sg/News/Local-News/story20150124-321304

[SaBadBoy]

Can ask yr family help , in this world all mother or father will help our child when them get into problems .

[godz]

For the sake of your children... please do not do it.... really....

[die.cockstand]

I personally know a friend, Single mum of 3, 35 yrs old
Primary school education

Work day admin job $1800 and part time in the night $1,000 just to provide for her 3 children and 2 elderly parents.

She is petite and cute, no short of suitors, easily long queue if she's an FL
but she never thought of FL to support her family.

Although it's easier said then done, don't give up, things can only get better from here on.

As mentioned by one of the bro, you could sell you flat and downgrade to smaller flats to cash out and tide it over.

Source for full time nanny to look after your kids during the day, look for a full time office hour job, built your family from scratch.

You have the power to decide you and your children's future.
Drop me a message if you need help, will do my best to provide best solution, and NO, FL is not one of them.

[harv]

aiyo don lar..i am sure there will be a way out ... ask ard ur relative or friends for help ..or maybe give up the kid for adoption

u got a flat .. maybe u want to lease the room out .. ..let me know i can help u FOC..

although i cheongster .. but i dont think this e way to support ur kids ..

[retsmas]

There are many other jobs opportunities in sg .. y choose an 'easy' way out and be fl unless u enjoy sex then nothing we can say but to give u our blessing.
Y not downgrade ur hse and seek help from hdb to get a smaller unit. I understand they do help ppl with ur situation. With the cash u get by flipping ur flat, this can last u thru a period. Who knows u may find ur mr right 2 in ur new workplace :D

So dont give up so easily. There is light at the end of the tunnel.

[bigants]

Hi sister sorry to hear of your encounter. FL wouldn't be a way out. I can help to sponsor some daily necessities on a monthly basis for the next 6 to 12mths. Won't be much tho if u don't mind. Pm me and we can discuss how to go about it. Just don't give up life's full of ups and downs and I always there will be sunshine after the rain

[lorraine]

why not ?

but so sorry to hear you are in such a sorry stage of your life, be strong and things will be better one day !

[Demonkin7]

It is not going to beeasy to bring up the kids n every good hearted bros here sincerely hope u will not jump in this trade for rash of the moment.
If u do not mind hard work and average pay there r a lot of jobs out there that many Singaporeans find it unworthy to work as.
As long u r not a pampered lady and dun mind hardwork n depending on ur educational level there are a lot of jobs available.
U can also go for courses to upgrade urself from wda for ur next relevant job, ranging from cleaner to admin clerk.
Look out in jobcentral n gumtree for jobs.
If u dun mind slightly lower pay u can go to charitable organisation as some wanted to hire Singaporeans but becos of the low pay not much willing to work there.
My side is hiring for laundry person in the east as long u dun mind pay can drop me a msg n u can call in or write in for the position.
If u r willing to put in effort to work u can have any other jobs out there.
Hope u can put through n step by step to firm up foundation for ur family. Dun give up
All the best

[FatSpider]

for sake of children dont, later one day bump into their classmate parents..etc or some other shit and the gossip starts going around abt their mum being a whore your kids will hate u

just cos the govt is fuk up doesnt mean u wont get help from other avenues, a small portion of guys here are still decent

[drekman]

You can be a fl. But the fees you charge has to be 100/1/1.

[Fat Fatt]

Another kind gesture from our bro n sis. I think you should accept the help first settle down n repay the kindness later when your situation improves.

Worst case if you found no way out, I would suggest u try to seek a SD than be a FL. More time for kids. Less emotional scarring to your life

It is not going to beeasy to bring up the kids n every good hearted bros here sincerely hope u will not jump in this trade for rash of the moment.
If u do not mind hard work and average pay there r a lot of jobs out there that many Singaporeans find it unworthy to work as.
As long u r not a pampered lady and dun mind hardwork n depending on ur educational level there are a lot of jobs available.
U can also go for courses to upgrade urself from wda for ur next relevant job, ranging from cleaner to admin clerk.
Look out in jobcentral n gumtree for jobs.
If u dun mind slightly lower pay u can go to charitable organisation as some wanted to hire Singaporeans but becos of the low pay not much willing to work there.
My side is hiring for laundry person in the east as long u dun mind pay can drop me a msg n u can call in or write in for the position.
If u r willing to put in effort to work u can have any other jobs out there.
Hope u can put through n step by step to firm up foundation for ur family. Dun give up
All the best

[JChoo]

You may need money urgently for expenses. Suggest that you seek help from your Grassroots Adviser of your area. He/ She will be able to provide you with some NTUC vouchers, help you with utilities, school pocket money for children, milk powder, etc... and introduce you to jobs.

Although many people online criticise the PAP government, I can tell you that this is a government that cares for the people. I have witnessed many times how grassroots organisations and grassroots advisers help the people in need.

If you don't know how to reach the grassroots adviser, just go to the nearest RC (Residents' Committee) for help and ask to speak with grassroots adviser.

Go to them quickly for help.

Suggest that you don't do FL. Over time, you may find a better man who has better alignment to your thinking and lifestyle.

PM me if you need further help.

[aoshi82]

Go for help at RC or yr family.. Don't ever think of this road.. Singapore is small, may bump friends while doing FL... So pls don't step into this line..

[BlueDemon]

TS,

PM me if you need a proper job. I have some fds looking for staffs.

Hopefully it can helps you.

[BiRd13]

hi everyone
pardon me for the long post please
actually i got to know about this site from my ex-husband (he was a fl-club addict whom spend all our money on flower joints and fl, he might just be reading this too, i dont know)

i am 27 and have 2 kids, one 4 and one 3 months old
ive since divorced my husband in december as our marriage was getting violent and his bad habits was getting too much even after our second child

after the divorce i couldnt find anyone to take care of my second child so could only work as a part time tutor, and my ex husband totally vanished with all the warning letter for bills and everything else
the only time he came home after our divorce was to ransack the house and disappear again

out of desperation i saw this forum on our computer and remembered i saw him on it for afew times but i did not really bother to find out what it is about

i know as a 27 year old and mother of two, theres not much attraction anymore especially after being a housewife for the past few years
but would like some advise can i still be a fl ?
given the current situation i really have no other way out for myself, despite writing to the respective government bodies for help, was getting no replies or slow replies, and told me they needed time to process my help and such

i wouldnt want to do this but i have not been working full time for the past few years, and have no savings, thus this is probably my only way out.
would like to know if it is still feasible and if yes, how much can i probably earn from each time ? i have checked out the rates in this forum but i dont think given my age and situation i can fetch the high price, and i do not want to be in this for long term because of my kids.

please advise.
i can be reached at wechat id suzubell or i think can pm vie this forum.

HI TS,

Like what other bros mentioned, please give up the thoughts, and find a proper job or seek help from family, and drop the idea of going into FL. Friends sometimes help a lot as well...

Sorry to hear of your situation. I can sponsor milk powder for your children to ease the finance for the next two years or so.

PM me & we'll work it out. Also, I'll see if there's any home based work that you can do to supplement.

I met my current wife when she's a single mum @ 35 & still hot as hell so don't give up.

Kudos to you bro! Probably we are in the similar situation previously. My ex wife was a Single mum of two. Despite her bankruptcy etc, we went through a lot together, and managed to 'touch' her heart, and we got married. Just that our marriage ended due to some other stuff, in which don't wish to share here.

Anyway, best of luck to your marriage, and thumbs (+ points up) for your kind intention!

[Sirrus]

single mums r hot.

[hunter12]

Hi sis, if what u state is true, than pls don't ever have the ideal of thinking a easy way out.. some decent bro offer help with no return at all.. if can, accept thier help.. settle down first n think of how to manage it. I'm in not gd situation myself thus only can encourage u thrg words.. bite the bullet n go through the hard way.. not easy but u will have no regret later on.

[ColdBlood99]

Glad to see there are a lot of kind hearted samster.

Ts try to pm those bros that are trying to help you.

Forget about been a FL. Don't try going to hell.

[kurios]

Once a FL, forever a FL. Why wanna drop in this?

Spare some thought for your children.

There are many ways out.

[hunted]

FL is never a solution. Its a problem. Don't use a problem to solve another problem. Think of what will happen later.

So what the government or banks coming knocking on your door. As long as its not Ah long. You ruin yourself, the government or banks will not say anything. They will just say PAY UP!.

Think hard, maybe PRAY HARD (KENNA TOTO) but never go FL.

[Teo Ken]

I would able to intro you to a 4 hours job daily with at least a 1.3 to 1.5 job. At least you could do some day job as well or look after the kids during day time. My recommended job is easy serving enviorement. PM me if you are interested for more details. Please sis for the sick of your kids and your own pride not into FL. 船到桥头只然直

[4getful]

FL is never a solution. Its a problem. Don't use a problem to solve another problem. Think of what will happen later.

So what the government or banks coming knocking on your door. As long as its not Ah long. You ruin yourself, the government or banks will not say anything. They will just say PAY UP!.

Think hard, maybe PRAY HARD (KENNA TOTO) but never go FL.

Ya fl is nv a solution. Same as if u sincerely ask a married woman whether she would want to get bonk b4 she met her husband, the answer will be a straight no, unless she a slut. Same as men mind his women getting laid b4. But since many had done it, it is hard to say regret, so the only way is to get scapegoat, seeing many same situation will make them feel alive. So TS, do u want your children to follow your footstep? I believe many experience samster here can advise u fl is not the right livelihood.

[newyorker88]

As many brothers said here.

Your age is not an issue here. But for the sake of your 2 children, don't. I know it is hard work. But majority here don't support your idea of becoming a FL.

1) You never know whom you going to meet, as there are tons of free loaders who cheat FLs as well. There are difficulties in this line just not said out in open.

2) Chances of STD, endangering your life with scums, demands they want in sex and so on.

3) Soliciting is a crime, not for those who goes for legal ones.

On top of few reasons I wrote, think of your children, how they will feel when they are being called nasty names due to your profession?

Many had written good ways to help.

1) relatives. Maybe your parents of siblings can chip in to help look after the kids.

2) Downgrade your flat. a rental or 2 room may be enough. Rent out another room for extra income.

3) Seek maintaince from your hubby( with the help of law). It will come in handy once you have a case, when it comes to divorce settlement. given that the 2 child you have, and make a copy of his overdue bills, etc. It will affect the judgement as well.

4) Try some part time work. Weekends, the restaurants pay well as there are not much people willing to work in these days.


And above all, keep positive. No matter how bad things may be, there is always a next day to look forward to. There are many here who are willing to give good advice. Just write here. I am sure there are listeners.

[jtng]

it's a shady swamp that is hard to get out of. It's hard to get rich quick but easy to get rich over a long period of time.

Eg: I deposit $1000 today compound interest. Wait 20 years is a lot of money. I would suggest if you have any CPF now, invest it properly and wisely. Look @ blue chip stocks in singapore mkt. go long, never short unless you can afford the loss.

Also, how you know being a FL confirm get u money? Can you ensure you get regular customers etc? My personal ML also tell me her business is on/off one. Income not that steady. Only reason she does it is because she is PRC sharing a flat so rent is cheap. But you are local you have other considerations.

I suggest this: http://www.sammyboyforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=43

Can be kinky and earn some side cash. Of course you will have to find out the legal issues etc.etc. which I am sure the bros here can help you with.

Embody the true Singaporean spirit: Balls of Iron. From fishing village to global financial centre. Work it out and work hard. I am sure you will find a way. Don't do FL!

[drekman]

All woman are sluts, including singapore woman.

[GTMS]

If need money, really no choice ma

[urgg]

All woman are sluts, including singapore woman.

Normally i will ignore such post by losers. because every single reply to u it will make u wan to cum. but ur post reli caught my eye.

y you bloody fucking bastard want to insult ur own mother? by posting irritating and hurting remarks makes you happy? And I tot there is this ban thingy in SBF? CNY coming. is it time to do some spring cleaning?

[iluvbreast]

All woman are sluts, including singapore woman.

What rubbish is this? Your mother is not a woman? Benefit of doubt maybe your mother didn't teach you well or abuse you so you have your reason to hate women, but keep it to yourself.

My own mother, a simple singaporean housewife help my father (dad work very long hours, when I was younger I could see him bring back work which he do after we went to bed) to bring up his kids, took care of his elderly folks who were living with us back then, no day off, 365 days 10-12 hours each day.

Like I wrote when I zapped you, it dirties my dick to fuck you, yes you are that low:mad::mad::mad:

[urgg]

CHAO PUNDEH Drekman, u dun come and PM me tell me u indian. Indian dua ki lan i noe but u are the odd one out. I dun play race and not racist.U chee bye kia dun hide behind ur fucking computer and post nonsense. I have a lot of indian frens and they respect women and i respect them as well. I dun wan to be like a si ginna and argue with u here until cow come home. U wan pm me ur num i sure will call u and PTPP. U knn spoil my fucking mood!

[iluvbreast]

hi everyone
pardon me for the long post please..............

Sis aoitobymummy, I'm no saint, as much as I enjoy going to FL now and then, I won't advise to go down this line. To be a FL in your situation is admirable, you are not running away from your responsiblity to provide for your kids.

The thing is, you are still very young, Singapore is small, you won't know who you may run into. My personal experience was that I actually ran into a FL who I used to patronise quite a few times before. She found a job in a company that is next door to where I work. I tried to avoid her as much as I could, (heard from her that she had to do FL back then because of a sad family situation) so that she not so pai seh. Although, there was once we were in the lift alone :D

Let's say after a while she quit her job, somebody in the same building visited her before and started to talk, she could not take it.....

Sis aoitobymummy, I came across this the other day,

https://www.facebook.com/pauline.low.98/posts/628801453893147

I'm not that rich, I just bought a few jars to help out, if you have something like, I'll help

[NottiSex]

If really can't meet the end .. I can offer some help ... No need anything in return ...

[dajalz]

sense like something wrg here..maybe just okt trying to promote the lady..thts why give wechat id..sounds weird tht a mother of 2 gives wechat id just like that even before starting as a fl.

[aoitobymummy]

hi everyone thanks for the advises..

first of all im sorry if its wrong to give wechat id first.. actually did a quick scan through some threads and realised many people shares wechat id so i went to download wechat cause i dont think its a gd idea to give mobile number or something more personal..

once again thanks everyone for the advises.
im in this state because of wrong choices ive made myself, but i cant just throw away my kids although sometimes i really wish i can (especially when the crying is non stop no matter what i do).
FL is not the way out i know, im also aware my marriage got into this state partially because of FLs although i know i cant blame them cause it takes 2 hands to clap.

i choose to marry the wrong man and this is my self deserved. im not sure if he is reading all this or cheering over the fact his ex wife have to consider fl to meet end meets.
im still working part time tutoring, usually kids come over to my place so i can take care of my own kids and the student, but when i have to go out for an hour or two my kind neighbour will help to look after the kids.
im trying to find more home base jobs or translation jobs but after being away from work for these few years i have really lost touch with many people and dont know how to go about it anymore.

many people added me on wechat last night and also offered many kind advises, im not sure if i can handle FL even though i thought its the only way out at this moment. my husband is my first bf and thus i really dont know if i can handle or if i can face my kids.
im thankful for all the support and advises.

to the members whom offered help, im really thankful and will pm you but i cant pm all the time, it says i only can send one message in minutes.

also to the member whom said all woman are slut, i hope you have asked yourself the exact question whether you are saying your mum/wife/daughter or future daughter is a slut as well. and although i believe there are good man around too, i hope you understand that if a woman becomes a slut, its most of the time because of a man. if you love your woman right, your woman will never be a slut.

thanks all once again.. i will try to be online to update more often...

[drekman]

If you are not a slut. You will not divorce your husband but be more understanding towards your husband.

[hunter12]

hi everyone thanks for the advises..

first of all im sorry if its wrong to give wechat id first.. actually did a quick scan through some threads and realised many people shares wechat id so i went to download wechat cause i dont think its a gd idea to give mobile number or something more personal..

once again thanks everyone for the advises.
im in this state because of wrong choices ive made myself, but i cant just throw away my kids although sometimes i really wish i can (especially when the crying is non stop no matter what i do).
FL is not the way out i know, im also aware my marriage got into this state partially because of FLs although i know i cant blame them cause it takes 2 hands to clap.

i choose to marry the wrong man and this is my self deserved. im not sure if he is reading all this or cheering over the fact his ex wife have to consider fl to meet end meets.
im still working part time tutoring, usually kids come over to my place so i can take care of my own kids and the student, but when i have to go out for an hour or two my kind neighbour will help to look after the kids.
im trying to find more home base jobs or translation jobs but after being away from work for these few years i have really lost touch with many people and dont know how to go about it anymore.

many people added me on wechat last night and also offered many kind advises, im not sure if i can handle FL even though i thought its the only way out at this moment. my husband is my first bf and thus i really dont know if i can handle or if i can face my kids.
im thankful for all the support and advises.

to the members whom offered help, im really thankful and will pm you but i cant pm all the time, it says i only can send one message in minutes.

also to the member whom said all woman are slut, i hope you have asked yourself the exact question whether you are saying your mum/wife/daughter or future daughter is a slut as well. and although i believe there are good man around too, i hope you understand that if a woman becomes a slut, its most of the time because of a man. if you love your woman right, your woman will never be a slut.

thanks all once again.. i will try to be online to update more often...

my close friend's wife is giving tuition too and can earn a decent income. She like u need to take care of kids so chose to give tuition at home. If u plan it properly, to hit 1600 - 2000 should not b a problems just that u be tired only. Maybe u can try give group tuition of 2 - 3 instead of one at a time. cheaper per student but nos of student can make up the different n surely abit more go by hrs rate. :)

[Falcon6]

We are all bunch of horny guys but I'm salute seeing lots of bros still telling TS not to be FL
Dear TS once becoming FL, your future can't be change anymore. You can ask for the bros to intro you some job
And for bro that want to support the kid 2 years of milk powder, I have my hat off for you. You are really a gentleman

[Benson Cheng]

hi everyone
pardon me for the long post please
actually i got to know about this site from my ex-husband (he was a fl-club addict whom spend all our money on flower joints and fl, he might just be reading this too, i dont know)

i am 27 and have 2 kids, one 4 and one 3 months old
ive since divorced my husband in december as our marriage was getting violent and his bad habits was getting too much even after our second child

after the divorce i couldnt find anyone to take care of my second child so could only work as a part time tutor, and my ex husband totally vanished with all the warning letter for bills and everything else
the only time he came home after our divorce was to ransack the house and disappear again

out of desperation i saw this forum on our computer and remembered i saw him on it for afew times but i did not really bother to find out what it is about

i know as a 27 year old and mother of two, theres not much attraction anymore especially after being a housewife for the past few years
but would like some advise can i still be a fl ?
given the current situation i really have no other way out for myself, despite writing to the respective government bodies for help, was getting no replies or slow replies, and told me they needed time to process my help and such

i wouldnt want to do this but i have not been working full time for the past few years, and have no savings, thus this is probably my only way out.
would like to know if it is still feasible and if yes, how much can i probably earn from each time ? i have checked out the rates in this forum but i dont think given my age and situation i can fetch the high price, and i do not want to be in this for long term because of my kids.

please advise.
i can be reached at wechat id suzubell or i think can pm vie this forum.

Your we chat quote seem very chinese, are you a PRC?
I have no problem in helping out for short term.For long term your really need to sit down and think about it. Let me know

[36SCE]

sense like something wrg here..maybe just okt trying to promote the lady..thts why give wechat id..sounds weird tht a mother of 2 gives wechat id just like that even before starting as a fl.

Don't be overly skeptical. She is new to Forum and not familiar with what's what.

[Oda007]

Althought most of guys here including me can be horny, but being a FL is not recommended for you as once u r in this, u will get suck into the sinkhole

[a2014]

im trying to find more home base jobs or translation jobs but after being away from work for these few years i have really lost touch with many people and dont know how to go about it anymore.

Home base job other than tuition is an option, not sure what you can do. Certainly there are companies that uses home base services. It will be good if you can share some of your past experience if any, maybe it helps rather than going to be a FL. Opportunity is always there.

Important thing is that you have to be hard working.

Take Care.

[porscheclub]

Lady, your mailbox is full so please email me for your milk powder

[email protected]

To err is human. No questions on your family or why you posted here.

I have 4 kids so buying extra is not an issue & my only request is that you or your kids will forward the help to others when possible.

My mother singlehandedly brought three of us up as a seamstress & even managed to send my eldest sibling through NUS so I can relate to your problem very well.

Very grateful & many thanks to all the sisters & bros for the points as I totally didn't expect it. For those who's chipping in to help, perhaps we should set up a plan for her but let's see if she communicates.

[whatdoido]

I have added u on wechat, if u need milk powder or diapers just message me on wechat. FL is not an option u should consider. Think about your kids

[atmos]

frequent thai clubers will find me vry familiar.my ex-wife n me were divorced 2mths ago with a 5yrs boy, but its a shame on your ex as not being to draw a line between own family and disposables.
even till now,occasionally i still teach my ex how to speak Thai although aldy divorced.
Sorry if i offended you. Whether is it true or...
I'm sorry if this is real. By being a FL is only a sudden flash coming to you.nobody on earth would wana step into this unless she got a unusual liking.
even you have assets of fantasy on you. it will not work out for sure. you wont even wana see yourself in the mirror, not to say if your kids asking you where are you goin.
Its hard now i know. you have supports here whereby others dun even have chance to be near. once you step in. Things will be different. everyone will look upon you a a FL. No longer a strong mummy anymore but a lady with FR.
Do or not u aldy have the ans.
Do take goodcare.

Yours Sincerely

[slyer]

Don't be overly skeptical. She is new to Forum and not familiar with what's what.

Return 11 points. Thanks for the up.

[ccl69]

Agreed. Family more important.

[Johnbass]

Don't be overly skeptical. She is new to Forum and not familiar with what's what.

If charbor, must be newbie....
Sbf logic...
:D

[sammyboyforumm]

Hey TS,

You have found the right place to ply your trade! I am fully supportive and look forward to your service. I am sure you won't mind if I pay you by milk powder and diapers. I have some spares at home :-)

How about 1FJ - 3 tins of milk powder worth abt $40 each? After the deed, pls pick up from my car boot.

[watssupp]

Hey TS,

You have found the right place to ply your trade! I am fully supportive and look forward to your service. I am sure you won't mind if I pay you by milk powder and diapers. I have some spares at home :-)

How about 1FJ - 3 tins of milk powder worth abt $40 each? After the deed, pls pick up from my car boot.

KNN your $120 very BIG isit? Go n check FL Dome L for local price lah..u think fuck PRC ah!!
Btw I zap u

[xrage]

so heartening to see so many sbf bros offering help and advice to TS. I salute you all! Esp that bro who offered milk for 2 yrs.

I too think that TS you should continue with your part time work at home. Giving tuition at home is excellent. When proven effective, parents will surely recommend you to others and it can grow like a small business. I can totally understand your predicament. I too am in a lot of debt and shit and have to work as a cleaner and garbage clearer in the nights before. I am still slowly working out my life and crawling out of this shithole I am in. But luckily I am finding my way. I AM SURE YOU WILL TOO.

There are really some legit and good advice give here by bros. approaching RC and grassroots adviser is a viable option. Another one I recommend you approach is to CDAC. I am assuming you are Chinese. I have seen them help the less fortunate and their response time is much faster. They have dedicated people to help others in situations like yours. I have seen them:
1) Provide help for daily essentials, which you definitely need for your 2 kids and you.
2) Offer help for monthly utilities.
3) Find and bridge jobs, either home based or part time or even full time if you can.
4) Another important thing is helping out with the school fees and necessities of the children. I dont know if your elder is in pre-school or kindy.
5) They can also help bridge helpful people who are willing to offer financial, employment assistance to you. So help from them and others.
If you are not Chinese, then SINDA, Mendaki has similar help. But I know CDAC has a wide reach. I have encounters with them, so I am aware.

Do all those things:
A) Continue working hard. Part time home business can grow to a steady income stream.
B) Approach the RC and PA (People's association)
C) Approach CDAC. They have 12 centres. Go to one nearest your home. Or the HQ in Tg Katong. They will help.
D) Even if you are not a Catholic or Christian. Approach Caritas. They are the welfare arm of the church. www.catholic.org.sg.

Approach this bleak situation believing that you will pull through. I give myself 2-3 years. I am sure you can give yourself 1-2 years to create a steady income stream. A combination of help from all these good organisations and helpful people from them or individual bros combined, can be really substantial.

I am not an angel. I visit massage and FL sometimes. But dont go down that road. Been said many times. I hope you are able to see more options than before instead of doing that FL thing. IF you have, awesome. Posting here, though a sex site, unexpectedly might have open new better choices to you. (I hope!)

I guess milk powder is covered. Do you need daily necessities? Soap, Rice, etc.. I am not rich, but I will help if I can. pm me if you need, cos I am sure your pm full liao. nothing in return. If not, no problem, I wish you the best. Walk on with your head up.

[ANowhereMan]

Hi TS,
please abandon the thought as this is not the right way forward. Temptations will be there, but you do not need to sacrifice yourself this way. Maybe can try working at fastfood outlets for a start? Like macdonald while waiting for replies.

Do reconsider...

[ANowhereMan]

Hey TS,

You have found the right place to ply your trade! I am fully supportive and look forward to your service. I am sure you won't mind if I pay you by milk powder and diapers. I have some spares at home :-)

How about 1FJ - 3 tins of milk powder worth abt $40 each? After the deed, pls pick up from my car boot.

I don't know if this is a sick joke or shit himself

[Johnbass]

Can win 6 months supply of milk powder...
Mai say I never SIC...
http://www.dumexonline.com/?gclid=CIyEnf-GuMMCFcMrvQodXlwAaA

No need sell body lah...
:D

[empire999]

Hey TS,

You have found the right place to ply your trade! I am fully supportive and look forward to your service. I am sure you won't mind if I pay you by milk powder and diapers. I have some spares at home :-)

How about 1FJ - 3 tins of milk powder worth abt $40 each? After the deed, pls pick up from my car boot.
Ur 3 tin of milk power si bei big fuck si bo,
ah bo I give u 6 tin of milk power then call bangala fuck ur ass ai mai

[SaBadBoy]

Originally Posted by sammyboyforumm View Post
Hey TS,

You have found the right place to ply your trade! I am fully supportive and look forward to your service. I am sure you won't mind if I pay you by milk powder and diapers. I have some spares at home :-)

How about 1FJ - 3 tins of milk powder worth abt $40 each? After the deed, pls pick up from my car boot.


Pls if u don want help pls keep yr 3 tin of milk powder

[Treemon99]

Hey TS,

You have found the right place to ply your trade! I am fully supportive and look forward to your service. I am sure you won't mind if I pay you by milk powder and diapers. I have some spares at home :-)

How about 1FJ - 3 tins of milk powder worth abt $40 each? After the deed, pls pick up from my car boot.

Knnz locals are worth more than your cb offer of $120 .......... How about you ask your wife cum out FL for $120 ? I will support you by getting two of my bangala construction workers to fuck her..... I pay they fuck :D

By the way, TS pm me if you nid some job seeking help...... Im looking for two admin positions to be filled :)

[DingdongAw]

Bravo, to all bros who care to share and concern over TS. we still have heart for helpless lady in need.
Hell to bro who offer milk bottles.:mad:

[cloudangel]

Yes i will agree that the competition in Singapore is tight and standard of living is high... But i think if you are less fussy, there's always a job out there which you can do to gain a respectable steady income....

If you are single, bored and lazy, sure by all means go ahead. But FL should never be considered an option to support your kids or family, no matter how dire your situation is...

[3legguy]

if you do need a job, pm me and we can work something out

[aoitobymummy]

Good afternoon everyone.
Once again im really thankful for all the advises as well as some of the members here whom offered help, on the forum and on wechat.

Havent really managed to online so i just browse through as baby is not feeling well and im also seriously lacking of sleep. so i am sorry if i missed out anything.

Im also not sure why im replying to that guy whom said im a slut because i should be more understanding.. but yup. i wish i could be more understanding too but i think you are just making an ass out of u and me when you assumed, because you simply hv no idea how long ive been going through and been understanding. or probably you know him and is speaking up for him. so would be helpful if you just shut up because you're simply insulting your own mother when you said all woman are sluts.

just to update everyone, im really thankful for the many whom tries to talk me out of fl. i know its not a long term solution and actually all along life have been pretty stable after divorce. before the current hurdle i was able to get along with the 2 kids altho life is not fanciful or easy. im also thankful for all the members offering help for daily items etc.. as i really cant reply to all mails at once (cause i can only send 1 message in 5 minutes, no idea why), so will get back once i can...

im seriously also considering adopting my youngest out. now that hes only 3 months, i think its better rather than to follow me and not have a good life, cause im really not sure if i can get past the current stage either.. need some advises if its ok to do so or if theres anyone i can turn to in singapore that handles such adoptions as i did asked around but no one seems to have any idea. of course i dont want to do so but i think its selfish if i dont think for my own baby now that his dad already doesnt want to care about her.

[36SCE]

Yes i will agree that the competition in Singapore is tight and standard of living is high... But i think if you are less fussy, there's always a job out there which you can do to gain a respectable steady income....

If you are single, bored and lazy, sure by all means go ahead. But FL should never be considered an option to support your kids or family, no matter how dire your situation is...

I believe TS is lost and confused. Her marriage woes have hit her hard and she is definitely overwhelmed by the thought of raising 2 young kids all alone on her part time tuition income.

It is touching to see some many Cheongsters show concern and offer various degrees of help from milk to jobs. What I suggest is for TS to take the first step to seek proper help from Counselors from CDAC, RC or Religious Organizations so they can better assess her situation and more importantly her state of mind as she could be under tremendous mental stress and hence the thought of doing FL came about as she probably thinks this is the quickest way to earn some money for her family without thinking of the consequences in time to com

TS, please seek help before you sink into depression.

[Treemon99]

Somebody zap me becuz of my comments in tis thread....... Knnz really bo lam pa that guy zap don dare leave nick and still wan to kpkb......... To the zapper if you tink like bro sammyboyforumm my comments still the same. My stand is we should never exploit the needy, weak and desperate :)

[CockUpForCunt]

Hey TS,

You have found the right place to ply your trade! I am fully supportive and look forward to your service. I am sure you won't mind if I pay you by milk powder and diapers. I have some spares at home :-)

How about 1FJ - 3 tins of milk powder worth abt $40 each? After the deed, pls pick up from my car boot.

Nabeh... If u want fj go GL lah. Don't drag her into FL.

[Tuanehkia]

Good afternoon everyone.
Once again im really thankful for all the advises as well as some of the members here whom offered help, on the forum and on wechat.

Havent really managed to online so i just browse through as baby is not feeling well and im also seriously lacking of sleep. so i am sorry if i missed out anything.

Im also not sure why im replying to that guy whom said im a slut because i should be more understanding.. but yup. i wish i could be more understanding too but i think you are just making an ass out of u and me when you assumed, because you simply hv no idea how long ive been going through and been understanding. or probably you know him and is speaking up for him. so would be helpful if you just shut up because you're simply insulting your own mother when you said all woman are sluts.

just to update everyone, im really thankful for the many whom tries to talk me out of fl. i know its not a long term solution and actually all along life have been pretty stable after divorce. before the current hurdle i was able to get along with the 2 kids altho life is not fanciful or easy. im also thankful for all the members offering help for daily items etc.. as i really cant reply to all mails at once (cause i can only send 1 message in 5 minutes, no idea why), so will get back once i can...

im seriously also considering adopting my youngest out. now that hes only 3 months, i think its better rather than to follow me and not have a good life, cause im really not sure if i can get past the current stage either.. need some advises if its ok to do so or if theres anyone i can turn to in singapore that handles such adoptions as i did asked around but no one seems to have any idea. of course i dont want to do so but i think its selfish if i dont think for my own baby now that his dad already doesnt want to care about her.

Maybe I can take care of the baby

[xrage]

Oi oi TS... pls dont think lightly of adopting out your child! It is something you will likely regret for the rest of your life. When you look back years later when you are back on your feet, AND YOU WILL, can you live with yourself?

If you cannot, you will still breakdown and drag your other child with you. And you may not know how your younger one is doing. Most people really fear the unknown. Not knowing is sometimes worst, we often imagine the worst.

Approach those organisations, besides financial / job / necessities help, they have trained counselors. Don't worry too, it will be kept confidential. Please, rethink and rethink... tolong tolong....

[netrot]

Hi Ts, don't have to give your young baby up for adoption . I for one can be the kids God father and see so many good Samnites in this forum . You carry the baby for like 9-10 month . Giving him/her up will make u suffer more as you wonder if the baby is treat all right or not. You will be so stress than you might break down. I believe our fellow bros here who has offer their help to you know how it feel in your situations . Do u have flat ? If yes . I think given your present situation , you could apply room to sublet with HDB approval. If you need more help pm me. Btw I can arrange you for a job that allow u to bring your kids to the workplace . If interested pls reply back. Gal everyone here is SERIOUSLY discouraging you going to FL.

[iluvbreast]

Hey TS,

You have found the right place to ply your trade! I am fully supportive and look forward to your service. I am sure you won't mind if I pay you by milk powder and diapers. I have some spares at home :-)

How about 1FJ - 3 tins of milk powder worth abt $40 each? After the deed, pls pick up from my car boot.

sammyboyforumm, there is no need to post something like this and insult her; fair enough, you looking for FL to fuck and you want to try TS (I'm not saying that TS is doing it right now), you can just PM her and arrange, it is strictly between the two of you.

Just to remind you, my boss often tell me, 做鸡也是人，她不偷不骗又不欠你钱，你凭什么看不起她？

[iluvbreast]

If you are not a slut. You will not divorce your husband but be more understanding towards your husband.

drekman, yes I received your 2 PMs telling me to go and commit suicide, I understand that you are sorry and need me to fuck you. Unfortunately, I am not going to give you the satisfaction.

Like I said fucking you will dirty my dick.

Sorry to TS for hijacking your thread, don't listen to him, sometimes things don't work out, a variety of problems.

Important is to move on and try to solve the problems at hand.

[blackaces]

TS, have you considered moving back and staying with your parents, this way it can sort of ease abit of your burden my subletting your unit out and provide you abit of income as well as having your parents assist you in taking care of your kids while you seek a for a permanent and stable job?

[newyorker88]

Hi Ts, don't have to give your young baby up for adoption . I for one can be the kids God father and see so many good Samnites in this forum . You carry the baby for like 9-10 month . Giving him/her up will make u suffer more as you wonder if the baby is treat all right or not. You will be so stress than you might break down. I believe our fellow bros here who has offer their help to you know how it feel in your situations . Do u have flat ? If yes . I think given your present situation , you could apply room to sublet with HDB approval. If you need more help pm me. Btw I can arrange you for a job that allow u to bring your kids to the workplace . If interested pls reply back. Gal everyone here is SERIOUSLY discouraging you going to FL.

A child is given to you, please do consider carefully. Time will fly very fast and before you know it, the baby will grow up so fast that you thought it is only yesterday.

Subletting the flat can be done thru the HDB website, not a difficult thing to do, just make sure the tenant is a legal resident. Nothing to be ashame to sublet out to have more money. Afterall, you did not steal, nor cheat.

As for taking care of the baby, I know that when the baby is 18 months old, you can put him in childcare. The gov give subsidies if the mother is working.

A child needs the mother love most, please consider carefully. Adoption is not an immediate thing. Takes a lot of time and arrangement as well. Work around it and pretty soon, you can sent the kid to childcare.

And as always, keep positive and take care. There are a lot of concern samsters here who are willing to help.

[newyorker88]

sense like something wrg here..maybe just okt trying to promote the lady..thts why give wechat id..sounds weird tht a mother of 2 gives wechat id just like that even before starting as a fl.

let see what other have to say first after communicating with her. If she needs help. let others help. If it is OKT, then let the brothers here speak

[darrendon]

im seriously also considering adopting my youngest out. now that hes only 3 months, i think its better rather than to follow me and not have a good life, cause im really not sure if i can get past the current stage either.. need some advises if its ok to do so or if theres anyone i can turn to in singapore that handles such adoptions as i did asked around but no one seems to have any idea. of course i dont want to do so but i think its selfish if i dont think for my own baby now that his dad already doesnt want to care about her.


I definitely think that you should not even think of this option unless you don't even have food or water to eat/drink.

You should not be taking the simple way out as raising kids are tough but worthwhile and fulfiling.
Don't ever think of sending your baby to others as you might not know what will happen to your baby eventually. If you love him/her, hang on!!!

[darrendon]

Once your baby is 1-2 years old he/she will be easier to raise in terms of basic necessity needs.
So hang on for 1-2 years and you will see the joy from him/her.

Sis - HANG ON and DON'T EVER GIVE UP ON YOUR KIDS!!!

[minesweeper]

Please drop the idea of being a FL..

[Ssamuel]

Always keep this in mind:

When there is a will, there is a way. Don't Give Up !

[Steventan]

Hi TS,
Life can be a real challenge. Don't be a FL or let your child be adopted. Hang on there, you could follow the many suggest given out by fellow samsters.

Trust you will make an informed judgment.

[Coffeecans]

Adopting is not the way to go.

What is your strong point/ qualifications?
Based on that we can help you out.

PM me ba. I can help or help you ask around.

[ridhwan5]

As mentioned, dont give up your kids, TS. there are so many options available then the flesh trade.

I have personally sent you a pm with job opportunities from my company. its not much, but will help you financially.

DOnt give up, and look at the solutions offered. It can be done.

[chicken_feet]

There is a government scheme called ComCare. You can call the hotline to ask for help. 18002220000.

[betlobang]

Hi TS, no pointing adopting out your younger one.

Eventually, there will be a time when you pick yourself up and
regret this act your entire life.

A friend once said, everyone at some point of time will need help.
Maybe this is the time, you need some help from the others.

Do not feel down on that...

[retsmas]

I have checked with hdb. For those families with difficulties or low income are able to rent a flat from hdb at the coat of $99. Why not u approach them for help to settle u hm loan. Who knows u may get some cash out of it. Alternatively, rent out a room and get abt $700 per month.

[betlobang]

I have checked with hdb. For those families with difficulties or low income are able to rent a flat from hdb at the coat of $99. Why not u approach them for help to settle u hm loan. Who knows u may get some cash out of it. Alternatively, rent out a room and get abt $700 per month.

this is a one room flat and they take at least 6-12 months to process.

[sammyman09]

Agreed...pls drop the idea of being FL.

There are more helps from the government that alot of us would't know

[a2014]

Havent really managed to online so i just browse through as baby is not feeling well and im also seriously lacking of sleep. so i am sorry if i missed out anything.

Im also not sure why im replying to that guy whom said im a slut because i should be more understanding.. but yup. i wish i could be more understanding too but i think you are just making an ass out of u and me when you assumed, because you simply hv no idea how long ive been going through and been understanding. or probably you know him and is speaking up for him. so would be helpful if you just shut up because you're simply insulting your own mother when you said all woman are sluts.

Looks like you are not ready to be a single mum yet. You are trying to escape. Your thinking now seems to be all over the place. It is not easy to look after a child lets not talk about two.

1. By adopting out one of your child will solve your problem, the answer is NO, you still cannot work out your day to day requirement. If you can you would have done so already no need to come here.

2. By getting everyone into wechat can solve your problem, the answer is NO, you are just trying to use this as a network to solicite your wish list. Most likely you are trying to find someone who will be able to take care of you or your FL activities.

3. By being an FL will solve your problem, the answer is NO, you are just trying to get quick money to past your day.

4. Working as a tutor or some part time job, answer is YES you may survive but very hard life. You wouldn't like it as you need to deal with your two kids as well as a very low pay and long hours of work to make ends meet.

Don't understand why you go answer to people who scold you because they want attention. By scolding you, he will most likely get an attention which you most likely wanted too. He set a trap you walk straight into the trap.

I am very sorry if I have offended you, however what you have posted so far make me feel that you have almost make up your mind on what you want here. Nobody will be able to provide you sound or reasonable reasoning.

Take care and act wisely, that is all I can say.:)

[clinton]

let see what other have to say first after communicating with her. If she needs help. let others help. If it is OKT, then let the brothers here speak

ya, and everything is possible here :p

[clinton]

Looks like you are not ready to be a single mum yet. You are trying to escape. Your thinking now seems to be all over the place. It is not easy to look after a child lets not talk about two.

Take care and act wisely, that is all I can say.:)

bro u hit the nail, fully agree

ts may have her difficulties, i am not sure ts's parents know this or not, or ts has sibling to help

if only ts herself, life really not easy for her to handle ...

[aoitobymummy]

good afternoon.
first of all a really big thanks to everyone for the advises, good or bad.
and thanks to some bro for really helping and travelling to pass me the milk powder and etc. (im still not done with pm-ing cause it takes too long to wait and send one message).

my parents do know of the whole situation but they are still angry with me and will not help me, ive pleaded with them but to no avail. its their choice, i was the one whom did not listen to them and insisted on marrying this guy when i was younger.

as for rental flat, have already got mp to help write to hdb to see what could be done. in the meanwhile, im trying to earn and save enough so i can put my kids with my neighbour babysitter while i head back to a full time relief teaching job. a member here whom helped me alot have suggested that i rent one of my room out for time being. previously i did try to rent but within a week my tenant cant stand the crying and moved out. so right now i am trying to put my kids with the neighbour while renting out the room.

adopting the baby out is not a solution, im aware. but given my current condition, emotionally and financially i do agree i am not ready to be a single mum and i dont know what else is a better choice if this goes on. by posting here, or by getting people to add me on wechat, i am NOT looking for someone whom can take care of me and my kids permanently or even temporary. i dont think anyone will do something that foolish either. my income have always been enough for us to survive until i met with this hurdle, and the only reason why im thinking of FL is to get past this.

FL was a sudden thought, after a quarrel with my ex husband and he insulted me by saying even if i go into FL ill never earn enough, thus out of anger and desperation i thought its the only way left that i can get immediate money to tide us over this period.

have talked to many people this few days and also had alot of good advises, im really thankful because i wasnt expecting to meet so many nice people here.

but at the same time something also happened last night that really crashed whatever i have left and lead me to really believe that even if i am to go into fl i probably am only worth $50 like what my ex husband said, or even 免费都没人要。

im not sure what i will do next for now.
but i really want to thanks everyone for the advices and help given.

[porscheclub]

Lady, you're exhibiting post natal depression so your thoughts & behaviour are becoming unpredictable.

Please get hold of yourself together for the sake of your children or at least your elder child. They need you so you must be strong against all odds. At least you have a roof & some income plus a good neighbour. Don't give up & don't bother about your ex anymore. His words bear little weight & karma bites.

Well, we've been hearing your side of story only but children are innocent so please spare the kids & be a responsible father.( for him)

Other than the government offices have you found any child care centres or at least a nanny for the new born? If anyone has contact for an overnight nanny, please post here to share.

[crood]

Do u have a spare room to rent out? Rent out and get a maid.

U have teaching experience right. Can consider this or get a job in school. U will start at 730am and ended latest by 3pm, weekend off and you are paid during school holidays. Starting salary is around 3k+ excluding bonuses.

U might like to seek MP help to write to MOE.

http://www.moe.gov.sg/careers/teach/career-info/salary/

http://www.moe.gov.sg/careers/allied-educators/

Be a educator, coach and teach your children well.

Stopped for a few years so what ... u r only 27 and even senior citizens in their twilight years work and make their life more fulfilling and useful.

You are still young, get your life in track. Divorce is not the end of your world. At the very least, u still has a flat and the custody of your kids. Your kids are your pillar of strength.

Get a maid to look after them while u r at work. It is around the same rate to get a nanny. Install a cctv, get your neighbours to jaga on and off.

Go to family court and file for maintainence from that jerk. Demand at least 2k monthly from him. If he can't pay, he shall go to jail.

It is not easy but you need time, strength to rebuild your life again.
There will be sunshine after the storm.

However if u jump from man to man, choosing a life to fxxk around, it will only mess up your life and the kids will suffer.

I believe that you don't want to lurk around in this forum years after years to look for men, jumping from ship to ship while earning a measly income from FL wasting your youth away.

Yoyr kids are already in a broken family but i believe with dignity, pride and strength, u can once again give them a happy, normal and complete home.

I believe you want them to tell their classmates that my mummy is a teacher, she coach me after she get back from school daily rather than my mummy always bring various men home and lock themselves in the room. No kids will want that. They want a mummy that they are proud of.
Don't let the jerk and your family to look down on you.

Get your life on track and I believe if destiny allows, u will find someone who look through your strength and will geninuely love and treasure u again.

[firejalan]

Hey... I can support some milk powder too...plus delivery..
I add u at wechat.
My ID start w S...
I will msg u " milk powder"
Pls contact me if u want.
Be happy...

[tungsten]

I am assuming that you are good in Chinese as you use mandarin in your wechat description.

君子有所为有所不为

I am referring the above with gender equality when using the phrase "君子".

Being a FL is definitely going to make matters worse. Remember you are a role model to your children. Would you want your child to grow up with an impression that they should do everything and anything for money? If you have a daughter, will you want her to do it? If you have a son, would you want him to lose his own self respect because his mother is a whore? Please pardon my harsh language...

It's really up to you to decide your self worth... and definitely it should not be due to stupid comments from you soon to be ex husband.

Commercial sex destroys the self worth for both man and woman. However it's definitely more devastating for woman. Whatever you give away for the fee received is definitely not enough to cover for what you lost.

[wittyman]

but at the same time something also happened last night that really crashed whatever i have left and lead me to really believe that even if i am to go into fl i probably am only worth $50 like what my ex husband said, or even 免费都没人要。

im not sure what i will do next for now.
but i really want to thanks everyone for the advices and help given.

sis don't be fooled by what he said.

I believe you dont need to prove to him anything. please let the past be past and look forward to the future. You still young, still have long life to live here.

[ANowhereMan]

http://picsndquotes.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/strength_motivational_quote.jpg

I don't know how to attached a picture here, but the images says;

The Struggle you are facing today,
is developing the strength you need tomorrow

Don't give up !

[aoitobymummy]

hi good afternoon everyone.
this is going to be a long post so hope all the nice members here bear with me for awhile.

i probably will not be visiting this forum often anymore. ive met really nice people here this few days but ive also made the mistake of yet again trusting someone blindly.

first of all i am really thankful to everyone whom gave me good advices and try to pull me out of this another endless pit... especially the member whom travelled all the way to my place just to pass me the milk powder and stuff. i know many are offering me help, im really thankful for everything.

for the past few days since i started this thread ive really been struggling with the thought of fl. many members whom added me tried talking me out of it and im really surprised. some also advised and said that its a path of no return, which i understand. i thought it will be the last method if i really have no other way out.

ive also had my share of people whom crashed whatever remaining ego i have. i dont think i will be specific with what happened, but ive mistrusted someone from this forum and cornered myself to this state right now. all i want to tell that member is, i do not choose my looks, i am just a normal person trying to handle two kids and my own life, of course i wouldnt want to be a fl if i had a choice, like many stated here, how am i going to face my own kids if i do? or how am i going to face myself? of course i know 职业不分贵贱 , and if i really had no way out fl is also a way out, but why let me feel theres a way out for me just to crash all my remaining hopes? might as well in the beginning you just ask me for stats/prices etc? why use all the good and kind words just to get a chance to further insult me?

ive been spending the whole of yesterday calling up loan companies etc and realised i couldnt get a loan at all from them because my ex husband probably used our address to get loans before or because i dont have a stable job now, i dont know whats the exact reason.

giving up the kids now is the only thing i can think of. my babysitter is chasing me for money after ive owed her for almost 2 months coming and ive a relief job from tomorrow which i cant go for if i cant solve things out with the babysitter, and yet at this point in time i am still stupid enough to go trust that someone really wants to help me for my own good.

我想问，难道人不美就不能做母亲，不能有尊严活在这个世界上吗？

once again, im really thankful to those whom offered me really good advises or go out of their way to help me. ive hold on for as long as i can and today i just need to let it all out.

[MeiMei5151]

good afternoon.
first of all a really big thanks to everyone for the advises, good or bad.
and thanks to some bro for really helping and travelling to pass me the milk powder and etc. (im still not done with pm-ing cause it takes too long to wait and send one message).

my parents do know of the whole situation but they are still angry with me and will not help me, ive pleaded with them but to no avail. its their choice, i was the one whom did not listen to them and insisted on marrying this guy when i was younger.

as for rental flat, have already got mp to help write to hdb to see what could be done. in the meanwhile, im trying to earn and save enough so i can put my kids with my neighbour babysitter while i head back to a full time relief teaching job. a member here whom helped me alot have suggested that i rent one of my room out for time being. previously i did try to rent but within a week my tenant cant stand the crying and moved out. so right now i am trying to put my kids with the neighbour while renting out the room.

adopting the baby out is not a solution, im aware. but given my current condition, emotionally and financially i do agree i am not ready to be a single mum and i dont know what else is a better choice if this goes on. by posting here, or by getting people to add me on wechat, i am NOT looking for someone whom can take care of me and my kids permanently or even temporary. i dont think anyone will do something that foolish either. my income have always been enough for us to survive until i met with this hurdle, and the only reason why im thinking of FL is to get past this.

FL was a sudden thought, after a quarrel with my ex husband and he insulted me by saying even if i go into FL ill never earn enough, thus out of anger and desperation i thought its the only way left that i can get immediate money to tide us over this period.

have talked to many people this few days and also had alot of good advises, im really thankful because i wasnt expecting to meet so many nice people here.

but at the same time something also happened last night that really crashed whatever i have left and lead me to really believe that even if i am to go into fl i probably am only worth $50 like what my ex husband said, or even 免费都没人要。

im not sure what i will do next for now.
but i really want to thanks everyone for the advices and help given.
A few kind bros have pledged milk powder, diapers, jobs, etc. Sis, please accept their generosity graciously. There is no need to feel bad or ashamed in accepting them as they are given with pure hearts and intentions and for your kids.

Many other bros have given good advice here in this thread. Sis, please heed them. Get your ex-husband out of your mind & heart and move on with your life. As you can see there is a caring community even in a sex forum such this that is behind and ready to support you to pick yourself up.

There is just one more thing that is left to be done. All the talk and good advice is of no use if one does not have cash in the pocket to pay the bills and make ends meet. Hence sis, can you post your bank account here so that bros who wished to make a contribution can do so through bank transfer? This will help you tide over the immediate difficult time and give you space and time to get back on your feet again through exploring the various options that various bros have posted here.

I appeal to bros to make a contribution of whatever amount you are comfortable with. CNY is round the corner. Let’s thru’ crowd-funding bring some festive cheers and relief to sis and her kids. With some spare cash on hand, a person will also have more self-confidence to venture out and pick herself up.

PS: Sis, please post more regular updates. A few more posts will also get you out of moderation and allow you more privileges in this forum. You already have enough points to give you Power. Regular updates will also allow bros to offer you whatever help, assistance or advice that you need or just provide a listening ear. Don’t give up!

[porscheclub]

Dear TS,
I've tried to PM you & your mailbox is full then posted my email few pages earlier but didn't hear from you.

I don't expect anything in return & will even inform my wife when we buy extra milk for your kids. She'll be very supportive because she was a single mum before.

Since there's quite a number of bros here offering milk for you, I'll do cash to help you tide over or pay few months for your baby sitter but we need to meet (I'm free 24hrs just for you) & I'm leaving Singapore in 2 days time for a few weeks so please feel free to email: [email protected]

[MeiMei5151]

Since there's quite a number of bros here offering milk for you, I'll do cash to help you tide over or pay few months for your baby sitter but we need to meet (I'm free 24hrs just for you) & I'm leaving Singapore in 2 days time for a few weeks so please feel free to email: [email protected]

Thank you bro porscheclub for your kind offer. I think this is the sort of immediate help that TS needs.

TS did reply me via pm. I hope I can help explain her dilemma in accepting offers from bros who wish to donate milk powder. In her own words, "Yes many ppl offered to help but I only have one baby, I can't be keeping 50 tins of milk powder... "

I guessed my hunch is correct. Her more immediate problem is finding cash to pay off the nanny and other bills. Sis, I have replied you via pm. It is perfectly OK and acceptable to post your bank account here as I had suggested. Those who want to give do so with no conditions/strings attached. All of us have gone thru' difficult times before. Who of us would have rejected help when we needed it then?

Please post your bank account here. Bros, please contribute whatever amount that you are comfortable with. Take it as paying-it-back or paying-it-forward.

[Johnbass]

Tiagong this is Adult Discussions about Sex right?
Misc chit chat about sex, whores, girls, love and lust. No non sexual discussions please.

You talked to many people here...
But why never talk to me leh?

I'm just passing by nia...
:D

[crood]

Tiagong this is Adult Discussions about Sex right?
Misc chit chat about sex, whores, girls, love and lust. No non sexual discussions please.

You talked to many people here...
But why never talk to me leh?

I'm just passing by nia...
:D

This shows other than vice, there's still warmth and humanity here.
Only when u r a beast, then can bring out the angel in us 😆

[Johnbass]

This shows other than vice, there's still warmth and humanity here.
Only when u r a beast, then can bring out the angel in us 😆

Last year u gimme de FL contact not in use liao...
Got new contact?
:D

[crood]

Last year u gimme de FL contact not in use liao...
Got new contact?
:D

I turn into a new leaf le leh ..... :o:D KNN, 1 of the whore I suspect was the Viet passed the herpes to me, I suspected it to be her cause her lips after remove the red lipstick has white sores on it and that bitch bbbj my kkj till a bit bleed. Luckily I never paint her, imagine paint bunch of "chye huay" yucks!
Or I suspect another Thai ... coz condom leak..
Now stopped chiong cause herpes under control through medication, next time won't be so lucky.
These women sleep with thousands of men, this time herpes next time HIV.

[2335 Man]

Dont give up TS. U send ur account number to me n I will deposit a small amount to U.

Goodday Everyday

[Johnbass]

I turn into a new leaf le leh ..... :o:D KNN, 1 of the whore I suspect was the Viet passed the herpes to me, I suspected it to be her cause her lips after remove the red lipstick has white sores on it and that bitch bbbj my kkj till a bit bleed. Luckily I never paint her, imagine paint bunch of "chye huay" yucks!
Or I suspect another Thai ... coz condom leak..
Now stopped chiong cause herpes under control through medication, next time won't be so lucky.
These women sleep with thousands of men, this time herpes next time HIV.

Farking Serious!
I also never take FL contact from you before...
You really OKT clone ah?
Oops... I testing only...
:D

[crood]

Farking Serious!
I also never take FL contact from you before...
You really OKT clone ah?
Oops... I testing only...
:D

Then u must be damned bo nou :D. . Which OKT will sabotage their own girls ��

KNN, that cb bitch's sore mouth look like this,

She still tell me, pu zua tats' y got ulcers ... when I la ji with her, can feel there's lumps of ulcers .... phew!!!

Anyway if u really kanna, nothing to be ashamed of too, pretty common nowadays. We come out to play, must be well prepared that these will sooner or late happen......

I sort of lost her contact. .. u search ur inbox and if have, post here to blacklist her!

[ilwtmlabnn]

hi good afternoon everyone.
this is going to be a long post so hope all the nice members here bear with me for awhile.

i probably will not be visiting this forum often anymore. ive met really nice people here this few days but ive also made the mistake of yet again trusting someone blindly.

first of all i am really thankful to everyone whom gave me good advices and try to pull me out of this another endless pit... especially the member whom travelled all the way to my place just to pass me the milk powder and stuff. i know many are offering me help, im really thankful for everything.

for the past few days since i started this thread ive really been struggling with the thought of fl. many members whom added me tried talking me out of it and im really surprised. some also advised and said that its a path of no return, which i understand. i thought it will be the last method if i really have no other way out.

ive also had my share of people whom crashed whatever remaining ego i have. i dont think i will be specific with what happened, but ive mistrusted someone from this forum and cornered myself to this state right now. all i want to tell that member is, i do not choose my looks, i am just a normal person trying to handle two kids and my own life, of course i wouldnt want to be a fl if i had a choice, like many stated here, how am i going to face my own kids if i do? or how am i going to face myself? of course i know 职业不分贵贱 , and if i really had no way out fl is also a way out, but why let me feel theres a way out for me just to crash all my remaining hopes? might as well in the beginning you just ask me for stats/prices etc? why use all the good and kind words just to get a chance to further insult me?

ive been spending the whole of yesterday calling up loan companies etc and realised i couldnt get a loan at all from them because my ex husband probably used our address to get loans before or because i dont have a stable job now, i dont know whats the exact reason.

giving up the kids now is the only thing i can think of. my babysitter is chasing me for money after ive owed her for almost 2 months coming and ive a relief job from tomorrow which i cant go for if i cant solve things out with the babysitter, and yet at this point in time i am still stupid enough to go trust that someone really wants to help me for my own good.

我想问，难道人不美就不能做母亲，不能有尊严活在这个世界上吗？

once again, im really thankful to those whom offered me really good advises or go out of their way to help me. ive hold on for as long as i can and today i just need to let it all out.

Everyone has their down times and difficult periods. there are 1001 jobs out there and being a fl wouldnt and shouldnt be your option. If you can make do with those average paying job, there will always be one which you can find and earn the moolahs with pride. I hope that you and your loved ones will get over with this tough time soon and when it's time to look back, you will be glad that you did not make a wrong decision then. all the very best in life! (:

[mav3rick007]

It's to good to see that over here there is faith in humanity.
I have tried to help in whatever I can.
Juz transferred a small token to her to tide thru This difficult period.
I hope some can contribute in monetary ways or through giving her encouragement & support.
Thank you.

[Botakhead]

人不为己，天诛地灭。

我不下地狱，还会有谁下地狱？

If all FL dun work for money, then all itchy cocks got no where to play already.

[crood]

人不为己，天诛地灭。

我不下地狱，还会有谁下地狱？

If all FL dun work for money, then all itchy cocks got no where to play already.

Not easy $ as well, how many kkj she has to lick and suck while pretending to enjoy it.

[4getful]

TS, your ex husband never pay alimony? Your flat still need to pay instalment? Why don't you write in to fuck the stupid wc? You are a genuine case who really need alimony, yet you are suffering? Some foreign or local women can make use of the fucking wc to have monetary gain when they are never in dire state. Write in to fuck n see what they can help you.

[xrage]

Hey lady, have you wrote to the gov and non-profit groups for help as mentioned?

Many little trickles of help + your own efforts can become a comfortable stream for you and your kids.

Channel positive energy to those instead of entertaining negative thoughts. Good luck.

[iluvbreast]

Thank you bro porscheclub for your kind offer. I think this is the sort of immediate help that TS needs.

Please post your bank account here. Bros, please contribute whatever amount that you are comfortable with. Take it as paying-it-back or paying-it-forward.

Bro/Sis MeiMei5151, you are right and TS probably needs immediate help, and I think you are very kind with your suggestion. I'll be the devil's advocate here, giving money directly may not be such a good idea. If TS needs some help with bills and food, I think it may be better that if we just pay it on her behalf.

There was once I was travelling with my boss to KL, we were having breakfast of roti canai where out of nowhere, a begger appeared in rags, tap my boss on the shoulder and ask for money.

My boss just looked at him, point to a seat nearby and said makan lah. To cut the long story short, my boss bought him breakfast, pack him some lunch of bryani, gave him his sport jacket, and 1 stick of cigarette.

I asked him, why not just give money, my boss replied, that's dumb, think a bit, you want to help him or you want to think you have helped?

I may get zapped for posting this but then again, i guess it's part of this forum. To the bro who call me hypocrite (a**hole pretend to be angel), well I never claim to be an angel.

[crood]

There are many points that TS never disclosed. I guess she is not here to seek for help but to pour out her grievances.

Her flat.
Many bros suggested to downgrade or rent but there's no mention of it.
Maintenance fees
No mention about it as well.

How to receive writ of divorce when the following points has not been resolved?

Since she's only here to rant and look for listening ears, just leave her alone and let her be.

[SnowLeopards]

What is the update on the situation ?

Pierre.

[TehOPeng]

So TS, at the end of the day are u going to do FL or not?

[2335 Man]

Got her account but no phone number to contact. Just wanted to check is it really a her or some scam trying tricks. Really wanted to transfer the money over but frens said better check first. Any bros meet her before. Pls pm me to comfirm. TQ

Goodday Everyday to all bros

[sbfmember2014]

Hi TS, go talk to your MP. From experience they are the fastest to response and get the help you need. They are also the ppl who can point you to the right organisations to get help. They will even offer you food coupons which you can use for your baby needs on the spot.

If you can lower your pride and think about being a FL why not first go see your MP?? From my experience when dealing with them on day to day matters you will get the help you need.

Try that first and if still not getting the help you need please pm me. Remember you have 2 children now. Think about them.

[Botakhead]

Her question was whether a mother of 2 can still be a FL, simply put it, let her try it out see for herself if she still commands any market value at this point in time.

You all sure all FL not in any dire situations like her meh? All just want to spread their legs and let any cocks to get into their sacred love canal?

Dun be a 'saint' lar, if want to fuck, just fuck lar. No purpose to advice her this and that lor.

Answer is - FL or no FL if a mother of 2 can be?

To me any pussy, if willing, can be.

[camoman]

Best not to go down this path unless all avenues of help are exhausted. From what I know, help is always available. It's the time they take to evaluate your situation which sucks.

Try MP and social services first before becoming FL.

[newyorker88]

Bro/Sis MeiMei5151, you are right and TS probably needs immediate help, and I think you are very with your suggestion. I'll be the devil's advocate here, giving money directly may not be such a good idea. If TS needs some help with bills and food, I think it may be better that if we just pay it on her behalf.

.

Yes, I do agree on that. If she has a bill to pay, those brothers who can help out, can pay direct to the account( telcom or pub).

As for those who are thinking she is out to test water, please dun be so cruel. She needs help and here many are trying to stop her from falling into the pit.

If you think you cant help, please refrain from posting negative post.

To the brother who gave her some milk, kudos to you and I guess she needs more than just milk powder.

She can go to MP for help and they will point out the right place for her to go to ask for help. All she need to do is some support and directions.

[newyorker88]

Got her account but no phone number to contact. Just wanted to check is it really a her or some scam trying tricks. Really wanted to transfer the money over but frens said better check first. Any bros meet her before. Pls pm me to comfirm. TQ

Goodday Everyday to all bros

There is someone who gave her milk powder. Can the kind one PM brother 2335 Man? Just to confirm.

I know there are may con man out there. But equally, there are real cases who are in need of help. Can the brother confirm this?

[porscheclub]

Indeed, please beware of SCAM.

I've offered help on page one of this thread & posted a few more since but TS has not contacted me till now.

Which makes me think, is it so difficult to do charity?

I won't deposit money to a faceless bank account & offered a min 2 years worth of free milk which is surely worth a couple of thousands plus job opportunities. A minimum requirement is a home visit to the kids & understand TS's situation better but no concrete news till date.

[Sigao]

Can a mother be a FL. Engage a FL and ask if she is a mother n 1/2 the time she will say yes.

Even a granny can be one.

[petoria]

Indeed, please beware of SCAM.

I've offered help on page one of this thread & posted a few more since but TS has not contacted me till now.

Which makes me think, is it so difficult to do charity?

I won't deposit money to a faceless bank account & offered a min 2 years worth of free milk which is surely worth a couple of thousands plus job opportunities. A minimum requirement is a home visit to the kids & understand TS's situation better but no concrete news till date.

you can be cautious but she also cautious mah, come to this kinda thread and invite a guy over to her house and kids........

all i can suggest to this lady is if she was willing enough to think of fl, she can certainly be willing enough to do hard work. I cannot say you will become well off working in macdonalds or whatnot. but you wont have to spend all your time worrying if your kids or relatives will find out about you.

just remember to dream of a better tmr

[crood]

Indeed, please beware of SCAM.

I've offered help on page one of this thread & posted a few more since but TS has not contacted me till now.

Which makes me think, is it so difficult to do charity?

I won't deposit money to a faceless bank account & offered a min 2 years worth of free milk which is surely worth a couple of thousands plus job opportunities. A minimum requirement is a home visit to the kids & understand TS's situation better but no concrete news till date.

I don't feel is a scam because she never ask for help in the first place.

I am not sure about who start the ball rolling about cash donations but i am very sure TS did not ask for it.

She just need a place to vent anger and probably get the message across to the ex husband who is a samster.

You can't force a cow to drink water if it doesn't want to..

[porscheclub]

you can be cautious but she also cautious mah, come to this kinda thread and invite a guy over to her house and kids........


既然已落此田地，何须小人之心。一切可商量，我妻也可随行



You can't force a cow to drink water if it doesn't want to..

Yes, of course. Much advices have been fielded but it's clear that she's in urgent need of cash to tide over now and it'll be a tragedy to see her separated from the baby.

We also can't just give but teach her to survive.

[crood]

既然已落此田地，何须小人之心。一切可商量，我妻也可随行



Yes, of course. Much advices have been fielded but it's clear that she's in urgent need of cash to tide over now and it'll be a tragedy to see her separated from the baby.

We also can't just give but teach her to survive.

I know there are many kind souls here but since she don't want, cant be forced too :(

[Botakhead]

How is she going to answer to her own question?

To do FL or not to do FL, because she is a mother of 2.

Samsters here are mostly chiongsters and to let go a chance at doing a FL, is like asking them to PCC better?

If should you decide to do FL, support from samsters will be available 24/7.

If you decide not to do FL, let them know if their offerings of help in kind or whatever is being appreciated.

Cheers to you.

[john6echo]

All woman are sluts, including singapore woman.
Including your mother?
So what does that make you ? haha..

[iluvbreast]

Indeed, please beware of SCAM.

I've offered help on page one of this thread & posted a few more since but TS has not contacted me till now.

Which makes me think, is it so difficult to do charity?

I won't deposit money to a faceless bank account & offered a min 2 years worth of free milk which is surely worth a couple of thousands plus job opportunities. A minimum requirement is a home visit to the kids & understand TS's situation better but no concrete news till date.

Bro porscheclub, it is not difficult to do charity, but it is difficult to truly help people and what is worse is that they may not even appreciate it.

Following my previous post, I try to emulate my boss; I went to temple, saw some beggers, so went nearby to buy some bread, want to give. Some beggers actually threw it away, and scolded me, "you give me this for what", and the aunties nearby looked at me....well let's say I was very embrassed, felt humiliated....for giving them food :confused:

To Watsupp, don't tell me to fuck my mother and suck my papa, they both worked very hard and sacrificed a lot to bring me and my siblings up, that is a line you should not cross

[iluvbreast]

I don't feel is a scam because she never ask for help in the first place.

I am not sure about who start the ball rolling about cash donations but i am very sure TS did not ask for it.

She just need a place to vent anger and probably get the message across to the ex husband who is a samster.

You can't force a cow to drink water if it doesn't want to..

Bro Crood, personally I don't think it is a scam too but but, it is always reasonable to be careful.

[newyorker88]

Wait for TS to ask for what help she needs. Milk powder will help in some ways.

Paying a visit? Not sure if she wants that. Privacy issue, but working as WL is going to worse than this as people will remember it more.

TS, everyone has their lows. But nothing last forever. In times of needs, asking for help is nothing to be shameful of. Your situation is not uncommon, and many are trying to give help to the extend they can.

Perhaps, when you are in better situation, help out some others in future also. That is a way in giving back to society.

A brother here has been thru that, and offers to help.

[dmtpl]

sorry to hear of your situation. I can sponsor milk powder for your children to ease the finance for the next two years or so.

Pm me & we'll work it out. Also, i'll see if there's any home based work that you can do to supplement.

I met my current wife when she's a single mum @ 35 & still hot as hell so don't give up.

i respect you bro.

[camoman]

The chee bye kia who zapped me, GO FUCK YOUR MOTHER.

Only a monster like you can take advantage of the down and out for sex.

[xrage]

TS, where are you? Can you update your actions to recover from your situation now?

I agree, while we are here to relax and cheong, many have good hearts and are really wanting to help. But NONE will want to be carrots.

Banking into account without verifying is not too wise. I have offered some advice and at least 4 avenues to turn to for help in some other posts. Visit CDAC and MP, they are fast to response. Milk has been covered by many bros like PorscheClub, so I offered daily necessities... rice, canned food, stationary for kids, etc etc .. you know lah...

No reply from TS too... I only ask to visit. Hey, after buying those stuff must also deliver to house what... so TS, what's your actionable plan?

Bro camoman, I will up you when points recover. I also kena zapped by nameless cockster many times in another thread for no reason....

[blurbatang]

As brother porsche mentioned. Until now i never post anything in this thread. But i contacted ts through wechat. I offered cash to the extent of one to two year payment on her management fees, medical fees and others. I also informed my lawyer to be on standby for pro bono case. I also indicated that i found a friend that are willing to share his nanny and maid. As he is old and only have 2 grandkids to watch in the noon. So another 2 more to watch during the day is not a problem. So 2 senior friends plus 2 pinays, i believe able to manage 4 kids. Only thing i requested that my girl, my secretary to visit her and help her. If dont want to meet also no problem. Just drop by at her neighbour place. I just want to ensure it is genuine case. And my girl is a single mum with kids. So she knows how to help out. But ts never said or agreed. So i really dont know how to proceed if ts dont agree. Maybe i feel ts think in this world where got such offer. But i told ts, i was worse off than her 15 to 20 years ago. I know how tough to survive without money. Anyway, i told ts is her call. My girl is ready anytime. God bless her. If anyone thinks im talking crap or what, please feel to zap me. Is just points. Im just telling from the previous conversation with ts.

[wittyman]

after reading all the staff, i realized that the world now is really complex, may not so simple as it is ...

[Tua__Tao]

apparently some offered, met her and never wished to help? perhaps, that someone just wanted to manipulate her? terrible I say, but some wise man said great power or total anonymity strips away our civil facade, revealing the truth of who we are inside.

I humbly feel this is not the best place to seek help.
Raw bared souls run amok around this forum, for our base deviant needs. at least other places, more people can pretend to be civil or god fearing.

seeking religious organizations assistance may be another avenue?
..

@ wittyman
world is always in shades of grey. school education makes it look a rosy black and white. as we grow older, we start to loose the clarity. and maybe with age, we gents can finally loose our eyesight and see the world as it should be, borderless without absolutes and dull draped shades of grey.

then we may call that wisdom

[doofy]

I added her via wechat, she accepted, but did not respond to my offer of bank transfer thereafter.

[JerkieLiu]

faith in sammy community enhanced! ( since not lost from the beginning so cannot use restored )
reading through most of the advises is so much warmth.

TS, please think for your kids and accept legit help with open heart if your case is genuine. so many sound advises and even some donations offered.

maybe because you dowan to owe ren qing. but please think for your kids !

3X cheers who offered sincere advise and help!

[Northerstar]

dun even think abt it .... ur not only ruining ur life but ur kids' too ... consequence is too severe for ur kids ... leave a pm if ur really in need .. will help out if its to my ability.

[newlywedbride]

Hey Sister, I just come across a post http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showpost.php?p=12574629&postcount=13484 of gentlemen with large male genital. If you really decide to go into commercial sex profession, please reject such customer. Not worth it. I’m a victim to my spouse.

[GeylangSamster]

Poor thing

[4getful]

Maybe some sisters here can contact her to know how is her situation now. Although this is a sex forum but being tiko is not a crime n die die also say the tiko bros must be a bad person. You can see from so many kind hearted bros here offering help n give milk for the kids. Sometimes, ppl appear gentlemen might be more scary.

[aoitobymummy]

hi good evening everyone.
im sorry for the lack of updates and replies, i was trying to stay away from this thread actually. but guess i need to give everyone a proper reply.

to porsheclub and afew others, i am really sorry for not responding. probably i have been going through a rough few days and i really didnt think milk powder was that urgent. once again i am very sorry.

im also thankful to some of the members whom helped me, or listened to my rants over wechat. i am sorry if i have been total piece of wreck.

to the bro member whom offered to help but i did not reply or response, since you have deleted me on wechat.. first i am sorry if i did not response to you on time, and i appreciate your offer to help really. but in the first place when i posted here, i wasnt expecting any long term help. FL was never a long term idea in my mind as well. i have hands and legs and i am educated, its true i am seeking help to get through this period and get back my touch at work, but that doesnt means im hoping to get someone to help me for a year or two. i had a bad experience the past few days, and when someone suddenly came to me and offered his nanny and maid and even lawyer, i have to be honest that i am freaked out. i do believe in good people but i dont dare to believe in things that are too good to be true. of course i do not doubt that you really want to help me but i am sorry, i do want to protect my kids in anyway i can... i hope you understand on that.

part 1/2

[aoitobymummy]

part 2/2


when i first posted this thread, many members added me on wechat, trying to talk me out of FL. one was exceptionally hardworking in doing so, telling me alot of stories about FL and etc, and offering to make me a loan to tide over this period. i was skeptical about it at first but when he kept assuring me its really just to help me, i dropped my defense and i went to meet him. but after waiting for a long time, he did not appear so i left. and after i left he dropped me a text n told me that my husband was right, and that i am not worth a single cent, and even said he will share my photo on forum and show everyone how worthless i am. of course, its up to people to believe me or not whether this is true, and i never wanted to say this out because this event have really caused me to be totally demoralised. i do understand and believe there are kind people around and i have also met some these few days, but i am also scared at the same time. i am never online person before this except for online games in my younger days and i have never met people from online. my only worry is i do not want my kids to be exposed to anyone at this moment. i hope members here can understand that point.

a member here suggested i put up my account number, and i was feeling worried so i pm him/her and asked if its really ok. i do understand everyone wants to be cautious, and probably because i am the one needing help i should risk a little but after what happened, i am really very crashed. in the first place i hope people understand that i am just a normal mum.

sorry for the long post everyone.
as for government help, just to update a little, i have already went to my area's meet the people session sometimes back and mp said will write a letter to try appeal for assistance, so i am waiting for response but for now, there is nothing much i can do and i am feeling as desperate as can be but to think of fl at this moment, i really have no idea if i can still face myself or my kids if i do so.

[blurbatang]

Understand on protecting your kids. But i never never mentioned in seeing you. Never. I also dont intend to. My request is simple. I also hope you understand. I need to justify it is genuine case. So that is why i request my girl to pay a visit. And she can also gave some advise and help as she was also in the same situation as you few years ago. You mentioned you owed your neighbour for the childcare fee. That is why I offered help as my friend and his wife is lonely and only take care of their grandkids. Some more got 2 maids. So can at least help you out for short term. As mentioned, my offer still stands but i need to justify it. I also did mentioned my girl just pay your neighbour a visit and if genuine, she make the arrangement. No need to disturb you. For your info, only one or two bros that ever know me and met me through this forum, will know im so busy and always travel. I rarely post in this forum or met anyone. But because of what you wrote, i tried to help out. My only request from you is to help someone in future when you able to. No matter how big or small the help is. God bless. Fyi. I deleted you because i tried to convince you but you no response. as i dont save or accept id that i dont know. But i never block you. So i believe you still able to send me messages. But im not sure how wechat works if deleted id. Anyway. My girl will be on long leave for cny soon. I will be around. Just message me in wechat. As i rarely check my pm. I will try to see how i can help out. But i told you also i need to justify is a genuine case. And as mentioned im travelling here n there currently.

[xrage]

To the chap who zapped me twice and wrote "Asshole! Go fcuk ur mother and suck ur papa! Low life piece of shit! Watssaupp! Watssupp! ! Shithead!" and "Fcuk ur mother and shit ur papa!!! Scuk my cock asshole! Hippocrite! Shithole! Watssupp".... I pity you. You must have had a traumatic childhood and life. Were you abused as a child? You have crossed the line. very likely, you must have done the same. So.. how do your parents taste??

If I have said something wrong, sure point it out so I can improve. I have just been in TS's financial situation and I know how hard life can be and I am pulling myself out of this doldrums. What have you experienced? Hiding behind the keyboard? I don't know how this zapping thing works. If can get zapped twice in a row on the same day. I thought it must go around before the same person can be upped or zapped. That means this fella has multiple accounts in sby for this usage. Oh,......... he only has this as his one pleasure in life... how sad....

Sure, I will likely get revenge zapped. Go ahead, only points. I wonder how your real life is like.... So angry.. so conceited.. you cannot or may not have the means to support others... sigh... so pitiful. I wish you the best in life.

And get a tutor to improve your horrible English so you can get ahead in life.. if that's even remotely possible. Peace out!

[Johnbass]

Tiagong a wiseman said...
"Don't believe everything you read on the Internet just because there's a picture with a quote next to it."
:D

[watssupp]

To the chap who zapped me twice and wrote "Asshole! Go fcuk ur mother and suck ur papa! Low life piece of shit! Watssaupp! Watssupp! ! Shithead!" and "Fcuk ur mother and shit ur papa!!! Scuk my cock asshole! Hippocrite! Shithole! Watssupp".... I pity you. You must have had a traumatic childhood and life. Were you abused as a child? You have crossed the line. very likely, you must have done the same. So.. how do your parents taste??

Wow I also kena troll here!!! Haiya dun worry lah bro to show that I nv zap u,tmr I'll up u 12pts lah...my English need to be improved is lim peh problem no need u to come n teach me...stop ranting if u say points is not important to u...

Ps I didn't know need good English to earn $$$ leh..

[a2014]

sorry for the long post everyone.
as for government help, just to update a little, i have already went to my area's meet the people session sometimes back and mp said will write a letter to try appeal for assistance, so i am waiting for response but for now, there is nothing much i can do and i am feeling as desperate as can be but to think of fl at this moment, i really have no idea if i can still face myself or my kids if i do so.
This place is a no man land. People of any kind exist. Most are coming here for certain reason, you know now, I guess every bros here also know what they are coming here for. However I do agree that are many good one as well but they just keep quiet and watch.

When you post such content, you will encounter a lot of hero, you can choose and pick but rarely any you will trust after seeing the rest. Well I saw what you have written on your wechat, however I make no head and tail on what your actual situation. What we are worry on is eventually getting ourself onto the internet like wildfire and that will at the end of the day destroy our own family. People of good character will not come in unless otherwise.

As you know what you have encountered, even your husband is getting someone to test you out, who else now will dare to appear knowing your husband is monitoring your movement. Be it you are married or divorce now, no mention by you, who dare to risk their own happy family for someone that may need help but how.

If he want to destroy you totally, he just need to get people to run all over you on this place and wechat until you have no place to speak.

What you need is someone who can help you out on your kids and you get a relative stable job for stable income. If you don't help yourself, bros here can only do that much. As you know some may want you to return their favor if they are to cash out on you. You know what I mean, something not really necessary. Just one note, who ever who ever who threaten to post your picture, let it be, you need to be brave.

[newyorker88]

If he want to destroy you totally, he just need to get people to run all over you on this place and wechat until you have no place to speak.

What you need is someone who can help you out on your kids and you get a relative stable job for stable income. If you don't help yourself, bros here can only do that much. As you know some may want you to return their favor if they are to cash out on you. You know what I mean, something not really necessary. Just one note, who ever who ever who threaten to post your picture, let it be, you need to be brave.

There is something call karma. If the hubby is like what she claims to be and like what you mention about getting people to run her all over, he is not going to get it easy either.

He dares to do this, there are people who can send this to STOMP or get a reporter to report on it. Like the mother who sell pineapple tarts. This case, if he dares to be funny, just u wait n see, the newspaper has a bigger mouth or the internet where he plays about.

TS, since you have a stable job n income, just adjust yourself for a while. Nothing last forever. Good or bad times. You can pull thru.

You mention that you meet the MPs already, so help should be on the way. Things will fall in place. It is this difficult period only. Just put up a while and it will be over soon.

You mention FL is what you think of as a way out, but look, you have a job and income, not nothing at all. Just a bit of difficulty right now only.

[Jtjan]

I must say this TS looks very unstable emotionally on wechat. TS keep showing photos of her slashing her wrist multiple times, I think this is very unhealthy.
instead of doing this to yourself, be brave and go out there to do something abt yr situation pls.

U have photos of bruises on you stating your husband beat u up,
U have multiple photos showing u slashed your wrist.
Asking for loans without sexual favors.
Showing photos of death.

All these are not really good behaviour shown by a mum

[Jtjan]

Please pick yourself up and be positive.
Do what u need to make things better.

[newlywedbride]

It’s getting out of point. The TS question is ‘can a 27 year old mother be a FL’. Whatever it’s, the bottom-line is she wants to work. Be it FL or other regular jobs. She’s asking for views & not help. She’s not asking for whenever everyone is posting here.

From a lady point of view, a lady only gives-in to sex after been emotionally satisfy when she’s:

1) Too happy.
2) Too sad.
3) Too sick.

If a lady is not someone suffering from high testosterone level induce high sex drive; it’s better to abstain from commercial sex profession. Testosterone induce assuasive sex drive can be medically treated. Physical characteristic of high testosterone high sex drive lady are:

1) Hair on moustache area, arm, leg, armpit, nipple, chest, stomach & anal area.
2) Rough voice.
3) Warm body.
4) Large clitoris

[36SCE]

I must say this TS looks very unstable emotionally on wechat. TS keep showing photos of her slashing her wrist multiple times, I think this is very unhealthy.

U have photos of bruises on you stating your husband beat u up,
U have multiple photos showing u slashed your wrist.
Asking for loans without sexual favors.
Showing photos of death.


Agree this is rather disturbing to see and I worry about TS's state of mental health. When I saw a 27 yr old lady had jumped with her boyfriend @ Chin Swee last week, I was seriously hoping it is not TS.

I have decided not to read any more of TS's WeChat Moments or comments as its just too dark and negative.

Hopefully, she can chose he right offers of help and tide over this rough period in her life and pick herself up soon. Sincerely wish TS all the best !

[Tuanehkia]

I must say this TS looks very unstable emotionally on wechat. TS keep showing photos of her slashing her wrist multiple times, I think this is very unhealthy.
instead of doing this to yourself, be brave and go out there to do something abt yr situation pls.

U have photos of bruises on you stating your husband beat u up,
U have multiple photos showing u slashed your wrist.
Asking for loans without sexual favors.
Showing photos of death.

All these are not really good behaviour shown by a mum

Indeed quite scary.

[Botakhead]

Like that if she really becums FL, always so negative, how to give good service?

Scared that when fucking her, she turn nasty and take out knife, cut off the customer's kukujiao as revenge on her husband, we suffer for nothing.

Better to stay away from her.

[Compass68]

To the TS, if you want to be FL, the first thing I ask is.. are you willing to dress up at least a bit.. or improve on your appearance?

Why I say that? Simple, custy look at goods.. and since you are selling yourself, better packaging matters.. unless custy want the mum at home look.. then you dun nid to do anything liao.

Here is a bit of advice.. make another nick, and post body pics of urself and ask for comments/feedback/rating, to see where you stand. You can pose in undies or watever to get better understanding of how people see your body.. ie.. your goods.

But.. if you dun look pretty.. dun wori.. body can usually cover the face.. and svc is more impt. If BBBJ super solid... and u make the custy who is banging u feel so shiok.. guarantee for return custy.. and.. if u add something special or diff.. I bet u can command a good number of regulars.

Now.. y am I not discouraging u, u might ask? It's not a joke when ppl say selling your body is easy money.. some lay on bed like dead fish and can get 5 custs a day cos of face/body/age. the question u nid to ask urself is.. r u able to face strangers naked.. who will strip naked in front of u.. and can u do sexual acts on strangers, with strangers?

Once u set ur mind on something.. dun look back. Set a target.. like earn until wat amount den u stop.. that is a good start.

Trust me.. prostituting is not easy to go into.. and once u r in.. it's even harder to get out of. But if r in need.. and need fast cash.. it is ONE of the BEST ways to make a quick buck.

[Johnbass]

TS should go seek professional help...
Unless u think sbf is the 'professional' help...
Not safe to have kids around you with your current state of mind...
:cool:

[Botakhead]

Ai yah, send the kids away and give yourself ample time to earn as much as you can get within the shortest possible time, getting out of prostitution is all depends on oneself, if you're determined enough to do it, no problem about going into and getting outta this situation.

All about whether you want to or not, not about can or cannot.

Think of the money situation, is it more important to earn the quick bucks or about saving your skin because of shame.

Current situation just require quick money, though not easy (sacrificing your body) to help you tide over now.

Dun let all the hungry cocks here wait too long, otherwise the freshness wears off and cocks cannot erect ler.

[happenin1]

bro Johnbass
i totally agreed with you on seeking professional help after saw her posting on wechat..

TS, please for the sake of the children, go and get some professional help.




TS should go seek professional help...
Unless u think sbf is the 'professional' help...
Not safe to have kids around you with your current state of mind...
:cool:

[2335 Man]

Hi all bros. i know we are here to chiong but there are also bros with caring heart. I have transfer some money to TS n hope it will help abit. The bro that said she is not worth at all please go n throw away your eye. Are u here to sabo her.

[Alphag81]

Hi all bros. i know we are here to chiong but there are also bros with caring heart. I have transfer some money to TS n hope it will help abit. The bro that said she is not worth at all please go n throw away your eye. Are u here to sabo her.

totally agreed if you are not truely going to help her pls dun sabo her anymore.. at least dun talk bad about her

[Tuanehkia]

Hi all bros. i know we are here to chiong but there are also bros with caring heart. I have transfer some money to TS n hope it will help abit. The bro that said she is not worth at all please go n throw away your eye. Are u here to sabo her.

Steady! I salute you!

[Compass68]

haha.. sorry for going off topic sia.. but what I saw in my rep is really funny

"can a mother of 2 still... 06-02-2015 03:29 PM Hippocrite! Fcuk ur mama ass and suck ur papa dick! Shithead loser! Throw shit on ur face lah! Watssupp, bro!"

"can a mother of 2 still... 06-02-2015 12:07 PM Fcukshit! Go fcuk ur mama ass and scuk ur papa dick! Watssupp, bro? Cockshit, shit on ur bloody head"

The earlier time one show a red colour la.. so is deduct my rep la.. but the next one show dark colour... which mean, not enuf power to do anything to anyone.. what the kns this bugger doing? Must be the idiot hubby of this poor lady sia.

Anyways, wat I posted hor, is what I honestly feel.
The reason why most WL can't get out of the trade is cos money come in easy.
You open mouth, suck suck, open leg, let ppl fuck.. can earn u some money.. not really very hard de.. especially if u want to be "dead fish", damn easy.

To the TS, think carefully.
the hard part is overcoming ur own self.. can u do it?
Once u r in ,can u make urself strong to resist and get out?

I not here to be nice person or bad person, just offer my own view and some comments. Think about it la TS. Think hard and carefully.

If money is really needed, I rather suggest u do pros den do drugs. Serious de.

[endela]

so when is she going to 下海?

[wittyman]

TS should go seek professional help...
:cool:

bro fully agree

so when is she going to 下海?

bro 海 is really not fun, and not everyone can handle 海's wave and exciting :D

[ilovevietnam]

If you are not a slut. You will not divorce your husband but be more understanding towards your husband.

What is your fucking problem? Your wife left you for another woman?

[Jtjan]

Hi all bros. i know we are here to chiong but there are also bros with caring heart. I have transfer some money to TS n hope it will help abit. The bro that said she is not worth at all please go n throw away your eye. Are u here to sabo her.

You are truly a good man!
but is giving her money gonna really help her?
Unless u really constantly give her money and asking nothing in return, she will just keep wailing in her sorrows and not be positive. Becoz there are not many like you and you dun have infinite resources too.

In my opinion, she need to seek help. If she does not want to do immoral stuff for money then go work a few jobs to make ends meet. It is not easy but posting on wechat saying she wanna die when she still has a baby is irresponsible.

And if she really cant handle the stress then give the baby up for adoption to someone she can trust. When she is more stable both financially and emotionally, she can try looking for her baby again.

I am not saying that those who can afford it shouldn't help her. Just that we shd all help her to be more positive. First step is to ensure we do not encourage her by showing empathy for her suicidal, irresponsible thoughts. Wrong means wrong.

Seriously, I rather a mum be strong enough to say, yes, I will sacrifice her dignity and be a prostitute just to give her baby a better life. Like in the movies where the kid grow up to hate his/her mum for being a prostitute after they grow up. All this while the mum suffer in silence. I think it takes strength to do that. And weakness is to kill herself and leaving the kid to fend for himself.

We shd tell TS the truth. No sugar-coating.

[eighty2]

I know many people are FL at the age of 30 having no less than 2 kids. It all depends on you maintain yourself. Be confident in whatever you do, you will go miles.

Shame on you!!!:mad:

[biozaogeng]

TS, suggestion is to find a sugar daddy rather than be a FL.

Serve one guy for long term. Don't need to be a rich sugar daddy, just a working guy who can support your children. guys very easy one, just suck their cock everyday they happy already.

Like others mentioned, once you go down this FL path, your life is forever changed. DON'T DO IT.

[4getful]

Seriously, I rather a mum be strong enough to say, yes, I will sacrifice her dignity and be a prostitute just to give her baby a better life. Like in the movies where the kid grow up to hate his/her mum for being a prostitute after they grow up. All this while the mum suffer in silence. I think it takes strength to do that. And weakness is to kill herself and leaving the kid to fend for himself.


FL one's body is also prostitution. We see some young syt model also FL for money n some r happily married. Prostitution is nothing nowadays. More important is having a great body n pretty face will do, who care what they did last time. TS landed herself in such misery state bcos she did not plan for her future and also fell in love with a man that the fucking hypocrite wc can do nothing to this kind of man. If TS is shrewd enough, she will not suffer. She ought to know the system protect the shrewd n evil person more than the innocent person. What i think what she needed now is to stop indulging in self pity, stop being lazy n get a job. Stand up again, stop believing love exist n get a man to marry. Forget abt the current useless ex spouse n exploit the WC claiming alimony from the next man to come. As long maintain your body n have great makeup, no men will think abt your past. Isn't that is what those happily divorce women r doing. Many time, I saw those young gals with some guys, I can foresee what going to happen to her next time. It is their choice, do not blame others but themselves.

[Botakhead]

Still waiting for FL opening, contact please.

[peanutbutterjel]

Eh sistar, you really wanna do this ah. Maybe can put both kids at cc and take on a real job. Once you do around, you'll never be the same woman.But I understand how you couldn't care less anymore. At your age can still fl. If really want, I suggest you find a long term sugar daddy. Its better for your health, both emotionally and mentally rather den fl take on so many guys. Stay strong mummy!!

[guywonder]

Indeed quite scary.

if u saw her photos yesterday.. its a view of a high building with legs outside the window..
i see liao my ball shrink ...:eek::eek:

i think she need to see a counsellor.

[Antbourthen]

if u saw her photos yesterday.. its a view of a high building with legs outside the window..
i see liao my ball shrink ...:eek::eek:

i think she need to see a counsellor.

:eek:Ok i saw that pic too, this is getting out of hand. Could someone figure out where the place is? Report to nearby NPP?

She needs to stable down.

[4getful]

Y don't she request maintenance fee from her ex spouse? What actually is wc been doing to those families? Seriously this wc ought to be abolished since it only create problem, destroying families and cannot actually serve its main purpose.

[fictionman]

Wow!!!...Ppl actually trf $$$ to her!!!!...Speechless

[TKee]

TS, for the seek of your children and yourself. Don't step into the sea of no return. 1, seek help from your family ( parent or sibling) to take care of kids. Second, find a job maybe in your negbourhood .

[Botakhead]

她不下海， we all chiongster no more playground to hunt ler.

[LimLin]

Can be fl, why not?

[sherrry]

dear aoitobymummy,
it's quite saddening to know that u've been through some really tough times, to the extent that u're contemplating the unthinkable.

u're a private tutor, its a dignified job, and i'm sure u wouldn't want to run into the awkward situation of someone familiar patronizing your discreet services.

i believe u're not here to seek handouts, but willing to put in effort & time to earn your keeps. so, if u're truly keen on leads towards self-sustenance, and handle the situation in a level headed manner... there r plenty of dignified solutions to your problem. feel free to PM me

[nsrchuan]

Pm me when u start fl
Thks

[Ladyrain]

Who is the moron who said he wanted to help you but did nt have the guts to show his face and now wants to expose your face out?
This is not an act of a man. He must be so handsome when he discussed about your looks.
With this, I dont even have to meet himto know how ugly he is inside out.
I wish him all the best in his pathetic life, loser.

[Ladyrain]

Ur inbox is full. Email me. Dont do anything foolish.

[Botakhead]

Be careful, help arh, dun get 拉下海 also.

[Oda007]

What happened to her?

Did anyone saw her new status on wechat?

[Ladyrain]

Ts. Come to me. Im bonafide female. So allow me. We can discuss this in private.
Ok?

[LonelyVDay]

hope TS is okay. sad to read her story :(

[fatso60]

Hi there.. so whats your decision?

[David123love]

I thought this forum is not a place for moral discussion?

Do you know some prostitutes and masseuse have kids too? Should you then avoid all of them just to be morally safe?

:)
David

[DO_YOU_BJ]

aoitobymummy,

In this forum, there are many devils disguised as angels, so be careful who u interact with. Of course, there r real angels as well. See how lucky or unlucky u r only.
As for ur situation, if u hv a FaceBook account, pls post a message to this fella, Gilbert Goh. On his timeline or pm him a message abt ur situation.
His Facebook link here:
https://www.facebook.com/goh.gilbert
OR
email: [email protected]
This is where REAL HELP is at!

He has helped many in worse situations than u, so don't worry, their community will know how to help u.
Good luck woman!

[newlywedbride]

Het TS, ere is a post on WL’s annual income in Singapore:
http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showpos...48&postcount=8
http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showpos...51&postcount=9
http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showpos...8&postcount=10
http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showpos...1&postcount=11

Dear Ladies, will you be tempted to be a WL after knowing the annual income they are receiving?

Dear Gentlemen, will you feel uneasy to have a WL gf or wife earnings such unusually high income?

Overcoming Traumatic Sex & Enjoying: http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthr...9#post12672529

[Tuanehkia]

Het TS, ere is a post on WL’s annual income in Singapore:
http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showpos...48&postcount=8
http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showpos...51&postcount=9
http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showpos...8&postcount=10
http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showpos...1&postcount=11

Dear Ladies, will you be tempted to be a WL after knowing the annual income they are receiving?

Dear Gentlemen, will you feel uneasy to have a WL gf or wife earnings such unusually high income?

Overcoming Traumatic Sex & Enjoying: http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthr...9#post12672529

the link seems to go to the main index page. Anyway, for bros who cheong, please take care of your family! Don't spend every cent on FL, KTV and screw your family members up! Cheers!

[retsmas]

Het TS, ere is a post on WL’s annual income in Singapore:
http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showpos...48&postcount=8
http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showpos...51&postcount=9
http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showpos...8&postcount=10
http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showpos...1&postcount=11

Dear Ladies, will you be tempted to be a WL after knowing the annual income they are receiving?

Dear Gentlemen, will you feel uneasy to have a WL gf or wife earnings such unusually high income?

Overcoming Traumatic Sex & Enjoying: http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthr...9#post12672529

Maybe bro, u should just post the figures instead of the missing links.

[newlywedbride]

the link seems to go to the main index page. Anyway, for bros who cheong, please take care of your family! Don't spend every cent on FL, KTV and screw your family members up! Cheers!

Maybe bro, u should just post the figures instead of the missing links.

Repost.

http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showpost.php?p=12731948&postcount=8
http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showpost.php?p=12731951&postcount=9
http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showpost.php?p=12731958&postcount=10
http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showpost.php?p=12731961&postcount=11

The post is under this thread: http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=513250

The figures I quote form this post: http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showpost.php?p=12731961&postcount=11

The summary of WLs annual income is as follow:

1) The Kim Jio Kah professional rate is $1/min min & $2.50/min max; $10,100 PA min & $584,750 PA max (exclude minimal overhead expenses).
2) The GL professional rate is $1.25/min min & $1.88/min max; $20,000 PA min & $251,250 PA max.
3) The KS professional rate is $1.50/min min & $2.50/min max; $14,100 PA min & $246,100 PA max (exclude minimal overhead expenses).
4) The Desker professional rate is $1/min min & $1.50/min max; $9,400 PA min & $85,900 PA max (exclude minimal overhead expenses).
5) The Massage Parlor professional rate is min $3.33/min flat; $6,700 PA min & $20,100 PA max (exclude massage fee & earning from HJ/ BJ) (exclude minimal overhead expenses).
6) The KTV/ Niteclub/ La Sa Bar professional rate is $0.79 flat; $28,800 PA min & $100,500 PA max (exclude GRO fee & tips). (exclude minimal overhead expenses)
7) The Social Escort (Chinese & Caucasian) professional rate is $2.08/min min & $3.75/min max; $90,000 PA min & $603,000 PA max (exclude minimal overhead expenses).
8) The Social Escort (Malay, Indian & MILF) professional rate is $1.1/min min & $2/min max; $24,000 PA min & $321,600 PA max (exclude minimal overhead expenses).
9) The Social Escort (model or starlet) professional rate is $10.41/min min & $20.83/min max; $100,000 PA min & $1,800,000 PA max (exclude earning from modelling, acting or hosting) (exclude minimal overhead expenses).
10) The GL Street Walker professional rate is $1.50/min min & $5/min max; $12,000 PA min & $201,000 PA max (exclude minimal overhead expenses).
11) The FL professional rate is $1.20/min min & $1.67/min max; $32,000 PA min & $201,000 PA max (exclude minimal overhead expenses).

*** The incomes are not recognised (on traditional Asian value basis) & are not subjected to tax.

The conclusions are:

1) ‘Kim Jio Kah’ tops the ‘legal FL scene’ over ‘KS’ & ‘Desker’ significantly.
2) ‘Kim Jio Kah’ tops the ‘legal FL scene’ over ‘GL’ significantly.
3) ‘Kim Jio Kah’ tops the ‘economical grey legal scene’ over ‘Massage Parlor’ & ‘KTV/ Niteclub/ La Sa Bar’ very significantly.
4) ‘Kim Jio Kah’ is on par with the ‘grey legal social escort’ (exclude model/starlet social escort class).
5) ‘Kim Jio Kah’ loses significantly to the ‘exotic grey legal scene’ over ‘Model/ Starlet Social Escort’. But ‘Model/ Starlet Escort’ is a profession that is beyond reach of the lady-on-the-street. Therefore, it’s ok.
6) ‘Kim Jio Kah’ tops the ‘illegal scene’ significantly over ‘GL Street Walker’ & ‘FL’ significantly.
7) This’s an annual income (Kim Jio Kah) on-par with top income tax payer from the financial product advisory or institutional strategy trader profession ($450,000~3,000,000 PA) which is significantly far away from top executive & all other profession. 8) Except, it’s (Kim Jio Kah) too far away if compare with the political profession (non-taxable) & high-net-worth investor (taxable dividend) profession which is not reachable by handful.

(Pt 4 of 4)

Disclaimer: Never allow greed to take over your mind & body. Be truthful. Follow your sub-conscious instinct. Allow nature to take its course. Then loser your lips & open your heart. You’ll definitely be the ultimate winner. The author of this article hold no responsible physically, emotionally, mentally, monetary & damages of any other form its reader.

Please up my points & I’ll up you back. Thk!

Milestone of Kim Jio Kah: http://sammyboyforum.nl/showthread.php?t=427518
H57 Far Kor Sun Monkey God Temple 花果山福廣宫: http://sammyboyforum.nl/showthread.php?t=427313
My ex significant other H7R4L2 WL: http://sammyboyforum.nl/showthread.php?t=17758 & http://sammyboyforum.nl/showthread.php?t=409402

The School of Street Smart Vice-Business Management:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXY8o01VsIs

The cutting of a street smart CEO for Vice-Business Management:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9atxVFtfr24

Overcoming Traumatic Sex & Enjoying: http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthr...9#post12672529

[4getful]

Het TS, ere is a post on WL’s annual income in Singapore:
http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showpos...48&postcount=8
http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showpos...51&postcount=9
http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showpos...8&postcount=10
http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showpos...1&postcount=11

Dear Ladies, will you be tempted to be a WL after knowing the annual income they are receiving?

Dear Gentlemen, will you feel uneasy to have a WL gf or wife earnings such unusually high income?

Overcoming Traumatic Sex & Enjoying: http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthr...9#post12672529

Instead of asking abt temptation, won't it be better to know what encourages the ladies gg into the trade. As for if gentlemen mind Gf or wife being WL, maybe can elaborate more on the differences from gf or wife having many ex n a WL. How abt if let's say, if all along there is mc n no wc, would men go into the trade instead?

[BTech]

Has TS died / passed away yet ????

[jasonliu]

Sent me message

[wittyman]

Instead of asking abt temptation, won't it be better to know what encourages the ladies gg into the trade. As for if gentlemen mind Gf or wife being WL, maybe can elaborate more on the differences from gf or wife having many ex n a WL. How abt if let's say, if all along there is mc n no wc, would men go into the trade instead?

dont ask la, simple , most case is $$ encourages the ladies gg into the trade.

easiest customer services exec job :p

[wittyman]

any update for ts?

[Botakhead]

Still waiting for new FL service contact.

[fx3861]

If need help around the house...feel free to pm

[Donng]

I am new here . But just a advice don't do it sis once you are in it hard to leave .

[cocky1234]

pls give contact.. i want ur service
thanks

[4getful]

So wonder what is the decision or outcome? Is the leg going to spread open or no?:confused: maybe this thread is dead.
Already 3mth, 15pages n over 200 posting from the concern samsters.

[Alami]

I think if the TS wants to remain silent we should just respect that and wait for any updates.

[clinton]

I think if the TS wants to remain silent we should just respect that and wait for any updates.

well said bro, lets hope ts will not go into fl line, and update us here if need further helping :D

[BTech]

Ts is in SGH blk 4 !

[wiiwii]

what happen to ts?

[wittyman]

Ts is in SGH blk 4 !

bro really, she really did suicide herself ? :eek:

Poor lady ...

[Alami]

TS is fine and well. She just replied my wechat. Please let her have the time to reflect on what she wants.

[wiiwii]

Ts is in SGH blk 4 !

is this a joke you motherfucker or you have just lost your whole family member in an accident?

[Squeezy]

Dear sister,

Sad to read your story but a FL is not a way out for u...
I'm glad that lots of bros here are not encouraging u to take this path.

Leave me a message, maybe I can find a job for u. Not really high paid job but one that can put food and have CPF contributions.

[clinton]

TS is fine and well. She just replied my wechat. Please let her have the time to reflect on what she wants.

wish her all the best :p

[4getful]

This thread is dead:(