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14-09-2014, 04:20 AM
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The inner workings of recruitment (http://www.tremeritus.com/2014/09/13/the-inner-workings-of-recruitment/)
http://www.tremeritus.org/simages/dmca_protected_sml_120n.png?1a017a http://www.tremeritus.org/wp-content/themes/WP_010/images/PostDateIcon.png?1a017a September 13th, 2014 | http://www.tremeritus.org/wp-content/themes/WP_010/images/PostAuthorIcon.png?1a017a Author: Contributions (http://www.tremeritus.com/author/contributor/)
Hi, former recruiter here. I hope to tell something about the market. Yes the employers can get ridiculous. Want a perfect match but budget is below market rate. It is like you want to buy a Ferrari for the price of a Toyota. Some try to spec a BMW but the reporting manager is a Toyota Corona. Cannot outshine the boss but want an outstanding candidate.
http://www.tremeritus.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Human_Resources_1.jpg?1a017aMany HR also don’t know what they are doing. The specs given out are wrong. Not really HR fault too as they got reduced headcount and HR got to multitask. Singapore hiring and HR are crazy now.
Worse thing is the hiring managers are getting snobbish. Many of them have no respect for both the recruiters and the candidates. You send in the candidates, they drag for a week or two then see the CV. Some don’t even give you feedback. In the meantime you have to hold the candidates. After interview they take another 1 month to finalize. By the time the whole process ends, it is 2 months or so. You think someone good and searching is going to wait 2 months for you?
And for recruiters, as long as you are not paying a retainer, we have to find our own money. We will close the candidate to the higher bidder with the best job fit and offers first. You pay 60 days after the candidate starts work, which needs 1 month notice by the candidate to resign. 2 months + 2 months, you want the recruiter to do free work for you for 4 months before getting paid, and it is not even confirmed will get paid. This is the real market. You get what you pay for. Now you know why the market is so messy with so many lousy recruiters with no loyalty? Because employers themselves have no respect or integrity.
How many of you suka suka activate a search then freeze headcount, promote internal staff, or just to collect market information for yourself for free? Please ok, we are also humans and we work for rewards.
By the way, the civil service also. You want good people but you offer first year contract. Those with families or stable career and good, who will want to take a 1 year contract with you?! Now you know why you are not getting many good people to apply? Then now Minister Lim says HR and companies work for better careers for workers. Give first year contract got career? This first year contract is 10 year old policy, now still want to encourage contract culture in Singapore to contradict career building?
Ok, enough ranting.
I am now in HR. MOM better do something. The hiring and HR culture in Singapore is really horrid. Turnover is high not only because people got no loyalty or are picky. Your bosses and managers have no loyalty to the staff, so how do you expect any loyalty from them? And the bosses can be so crap and treat people like sh**! Don’t just blame the workers, take a hard long look at the bosses too!
Anoop Sanjay
* Submitted by TRE reader.
Click here to view the whole thread at www.sammyboy.com (http://sammyboy.com/showthread.php?189973-The-inner-workings-of-recruitment&goto=newpost).
The inner workings of recruitment (http://www.tremeritus.com/2014/09/13/the-inner-workings-of-recruitment/)
http://www.tremeritus.org/simages/dmca_protected_sml_120n.png?1a017a http://www.tremeritus.org/wp-content/themes/WP_010/images/PostDateIcon.png?1a017a September 13th, 2014 | http://www.tremeritus.org/wp-content/themes/WP_010/images/PostAuthorIcon.png?1a017a Author: Contributions (http://www.tremeritus.com/author/contributor/)
Hi, former recruiter here. I hope to tell something about the market. Yes the employers can get ridiculous. Want a perfect match but budget is below market rate. It is like you want to buy a Ferrari for the price of a Toyota. Some try to spec a BMW but the reporting manager is a Toyota Corona. Cannot outshine the boss but want an outstanding candidate.
http://www.tremeritus.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Human_Resources_1.jpg?1a017aMany HR also don’t know what they are doing. The specs given out are wrong. Not really HR fault too as they got reduced headcount and HR got to multitask. Singapore hiring and HR are crazy now.
Worse thing is the hiring managers are getting snobbish. Many of them have no respect for both the recruiters and the candidates. You send in the candidates, they drag for a week or two then see the CV. Some don’t even give you feedback. In the meantime you have to hold the candidates. After interview they take another 1 month to finalize. By the time the whole process ends, it is 2 months or so. You think someone good and searching is going to wait 2 months for you?
And for recruiters, as long as you are not paying a retainer, we have to find our own money. We will close the candidate to the higher bidder with the best job fit and offers first. You pay 60 days after the candidate starts work, which needs 1 month notice by the candidate to resign. 2 months + 2 months, you want the recruiter to do free work for you for 4 months before getting paid, and it is not even confirmed will get paid. This is the real market. You get what you pay for. Now you know why the market is so messy with so many lousy recruiters with no loyalty? Because employers themselves have no respect or integrity.
How many of you suka suka activate a search then freeze headcount, promote internal staff, or just to collect market information for yourself for free? Please ok, we are also humans and we work for rewards.
By the way, the civil service also. You want good people but you offer first year contract. Those with families or stable career and good, who will want to take a 1 year contract with you?! Now you know why you are not getting many good people to apply? Then now Minister Lim says HR and companies work for better careers for workers. Give first year contract got career? This first year contract is 10 year old policy, now still want to encourage contract culture in Singapore to contradict career building?
Ok, enough ranting.
I am now in HR. MOM better do something. The hiring and HR culture in Singapore is really horrid. Turnover is high not only because people got no loyalty or are picky. Your bosses and managers have no loyalty to the staff, so how do you expect any loyalty from them? And the bosses can be so crap and treat people like sh**! Don’t just blame the workers, take a hard long look at the bosses too!
Anoop Sanjay
* Submitted by TRE reader.
Click here to view the whole thread at www.sammyboy.com (http://sammyboy.com/showthread.php?189973-The-inner-workings-of-recruitment&goto=newpost).