Fell for a Thai whore

[anthonyKKW]

Hi bros, don't know if my experience is usual. I am a bit stucked with this Thai girl.

I first know her from a soapy massage parlor in Bangkok. Booked her a few times and we got along quite well. Exchanged contacts and also got into Facebook friend as well. Of course I used a new separate FB other my real one...with all my friends and relatives..

I visit Bangkok once every month, everytime I visit Bangkok, I will go book her. Book her for 2hrs massage, pay mama-San 1000baht to buy the rest of her time. We will go dinner and sometimes watch a movie. After that she will stay thru the night with me. Next morning, I will send her home.

Last month, she took a break front the massage parlor, to go back home town to visit her papa. Before she went hometown, I managed to go BkK and spent 3 days with her. Then she went back to hometown. We communicated via FB and she shared her hometown visit experience.

She returned to BkK late Jan, not working yet. I went to BkK again to meet her. We spent 2 days together, she was having period. Made love once, while her period was low flow. I even spent some time at her apartment. Good chat about her future and also had fun together doing things other than sex.

After I return Singapore, she became cold to me. Not answering my SMS and FB postings. She also returned working at massage parlor. I got a little heart-broken...

Last week I went to BKk. She said she had period and cannot meet me. I was sadden. When I was in BKk, I texted her to ask her out for movie. I said 'movie only, no sex'. She agreed and we went out. Good chat and good movie. After that, she went home on her own and I went back to hotel..

We are both still in touch (light touch) over FB.

Can anyone speculate what's happening? Although I am many years older than her, I think she is more mature than me...

[pakalolo]

Hi bros, don't know if my experience is usual. I am a bit stucked with this Thai girl.

I first know her from a soapy massage parlor in Bangkok. Booked her a few times and we got along quite well. Exchanged contacts and also got into Facebook friend as well. Of course I used a new separate FB other my real one...with all my friends and relatives..

I visit Bangkok once every month, everytime I visit Bangkok, I will go book her. Book her for 2hrs massage, pay mama-San 1000baht to buy the rest of her time. We will go dinner and sometimes watch a movie. After that she will stay thru the night with me. Next morning, I will send her home.

Last month, she took a break front the massage parlor, to go back home town to visit her papa. Before she went hometown, I managed to go BkK and spent 3 days with her. Then she went back to hometown. We communicated via FB and she shared her hometown visit experience.

She returned to BkK late Jan, not working yet. I went to BkK again to meet her. We spent 2 days together, she was having period. Made love once, while her period was low flow. I even spent some time at her apartment. Good chat about her future and also had fun together doing things other than sex.

After I return Singapore, she became cold to me. Not answering my SMS and FB postings. She also returned working at massage parlor. I got a little heart-broken...

Last week I went to BKk. She said she had period and cannot meet me. I was sadden. When I was in BKk, I texted her to ask her out for movie. I said 'movie only, no sex'. She agreed and we went out. Good chat and good movie. After that, she went home on her own and I went back to hotel..

We are both still in touch (light touch) over FB.

Can anyone speculate what's happening? Although I am many years older than her, I think she is more mature than me...

Bro many things can happen like she may have found someone she love or she may feel that you are not ready to "save" her and take care of her,the list goes on.

Since you have a good chat about her future as stated in your post and as you did not mention the content of the discussion there is not much anyone can speculate.

[Nonteerak2553]

Nothing unusual. Try don't contact her for a few days, see if she make the first move to contact you. In any case never get too emotional with her, otherwise you will suffer sleepless night. There's are tons of decent girls in Bkk, since you go to Bkk on a monthly trip.

[fictionman]

If u claim u hv "fell" for her u shldnt address her as a whore!!!!

[anthonyKKW]

She is 24 now and she has been in this trade since 19. She hopes to retire in 2 years and start a small business selling handbags and accessories. She didn't ask me for money neither did I volunteer. Last round I want to buy her some facial/skin cream from Changi Airport, she said don't need.

Many times, she try to help me save money..in shopping malls, in pubs. In fact instead of going to expensive pubs, she brought me to a supermarket, bought a bottle of red wine and we had wine and chat in my hotel the whole night.

Sigh...

I'll stop communicating with her for a while and see what happens.

[anthonyKKW]

If u claim u hv "fell" for her u shldnt address her as a whore!!!!

You are right man, I struggled a little when putting up the subject...but I can't find a better term...she called herself working as a “Lady'..

[yunnamhaircare]

TS, you are looking too much into this small matter.

Think of girls like comodities. Many come and go in your life. Don't bother why they leave you. Just go experience new ones. :cool:

But you must cherish those that stay by your side and go through thick and thin with you. These are the gems that are really worthy of your thoughts and care. :)

[anthonyKKW]

Yunam, thanks for lending a listening ear.

[justl00king]

Another KC trap in the making.

Bro,

You better snap out of it, many have gone thru this phase.

All the best.

[gorb]

remind me when my first time visit to GL.fell for them.luckly i learnt the hard way due to their mercy, everytime they disappear or rod before they can do more damage.right now i use what i learnt from them and use back at other FL.

you have to seperate whores and decent girls. whore are for FNF , you want love then go for decent girl.

[stillgottheblue]

Don't complicate your life by falling with WL.

[sammyboyfor]

Is there no end to this madness???? :eek:

[sta1100]

Bro, why fall for a Thai chicken, no different if she a vet, Thai or PRC a chicken is still a chicken. For them to turn over is not going to be easy since easy $$ is all they want. Why Don't you look for those office girl etc those are better catch.
No point to waste time and $$$ (KC). I've friend been on the same road as you.

[stillgottheblue]

Are there no other girls you can find? Since you are visiting BBK every month.

[esssinine]

Seems like theres enough of guys like you to form a club ;)

Why not do so? You clowns can pool your resources and get economies of scale :)

[anthonyKKW]

Thanks guys. Felt better now. I am quite disappointed with her too. On one hand she wants to retire quick, on the other hand she cannot live with a decent job (of course with much lower income)..

I'll probably text her again before I go BKK next month. If she goes out with me, that's good. If she doesn't, I’ll just pop by Nataree.

[notepad]

bro TS, i also go to bkk monthly. when is your next trip? mine is early next month. :)

[chanster]

This is a tactic , getting you out of desperate .. So when she list anything you will just agree and give ..

Very strong trap .. Beware

[Black_Hawk_Up]

Thanks guys. Felt better now. I am quite disappointed with her too. On one hand she wants to retire quick, on the other hand she cannot live with a decent job (of course with much lower income)..

I'll probably text her again before I go BKK next month. If she goes out with me, that's good. If she doesn't, I’ll just pop by Nataree.

all your plan still is for you to visit her. it just excuses for you to meet her.

for the next why don't you try finding other girls and move on from there. give her a cold shoulder for a few months and see her reaction. who know from there you realize she is not so important to you after all.

[fictionman]

Bro...Im not tryin to bring u down but do u see a future wz a WL??..I knw now while u r still head over heels wz her tt yr big brain doesnt function properly..All also no prob...In future, wat would u tell yr family & friends???...

[pakalolo]

I feel that WL are been harshly judge here,ask yourself why would a woman wants to sell her body if she have other choice?

Does being a WL mean one is condemn for life with no chance what so ever to lead a normal life again?

WL are women too as such they too would like to have a normal life with loving husband and a few kids.

Sure there are bad apples among the lots however lets be more forgiving to those who really want to turn their life around.

Everyone deserve a second chance in life that's what the yellow ribbon project is all about.

The bible say "He that is without sin among you let him cast the 1st stone"

[anthonyKKW]

Thanks guys.

This WL likes children a lot. I saw her FB communications with her friends... Unfortunately, her circle of friends are mostly WLs. She doesn't really know what she can do in BKK for a decent living without being a WL and she doesn't want to go back to hometown to do farming for 200bahts a day..quite sad for her actually.

Last round, when I was in BKK, without her, I was quite lonely. No one to chat with or go dinner/shopping with. All the activities in the MPs were all too transactional..and none wants to go dinner with me, they all need to work thru to midnight. Maybe I am just a boring SG guy..

Sigh. Just no luck for GFE. (Btw, I am quite sceptic about escort service...thought it is all so fake..).

[tenggiri]

Thanks guys. Felt better now. I am quite disappointed with her too. On one hand she wants to retire quick, on the other hand she cannot live with a decent job (of course with much lower income)..

I'll probably text her again before I go BKK next month. If she goes out with me, that's good. If she doesn't, I’ll just pop by Nataree.

Bro, i'll adv u not to go look for her again! You have been lucky so far as i can see you have been let off quite lightly by her already! Yes, i agree a WL is human too and deserves to be treated so but as long you have been good and fair with her, your consceince is clear.

Nataree is overflowing with chicks during the weekends why choose to bang the same one again????

Footnote: Some of these ladies keep several regulars and juggle them around like a Cirque de Soleil artiste before one or two falls off. You could have been one of them. Who knows? Don't bother to find out la...

[pakalolo]

Thanks guys.

This WL likes children a lot. I saw her FB communications with her friends... Unfortunately, her circle of friends are mostly WLs. She doesn't really know what she can do in BKK for a decent living without being a WL and she doesn't want to go back to hometown to do farming for 200bahts a day..quite sad for her actually.

Last round, when I was in BKK, without her, I was quite lonely. No one to chat with or go dinner/shopping with. All the activities in the MPs were all too transactional..and none wants to go dinner with me, they all need to work thru to midnight. Maybe I am just a boring SG guy..

Sigh. Just no luck for GFE. (Btw, I am quite sceptic about escort service...thought it is all so fake..).

Bro min wage in Thailand now is 300 a day and normal job like in the shopping centre is about 10000 a month and I am talking about north of Thailand,not sure about Bkk rate.
So if her financial burden is not great she can get by in Bkk but won't be enough to send home to some lazy relative except to support her kids.

As for girls with GFE you will have better chance with girls from beer bar if you are not fussy about looks,best time to start hunting is just after lunch time say around 1pm.
I met a few this way and if the chemistry is right she will be with you for the rest of your stay in BKK

AGG girls mostly only ST these days even if go LT will leave at 7 or 8am worse some will come up with "my sister no key" story after 1 shot.

[anthonyKKW]

Her financial burden in BkK is not great. Apartment rental is 3500baht a month, but need to send money to brother and papa in hometown who all refuse to work.

10000baht a month should be survivable and no need to be miserable... Good thing is that she quitted her gambling habits. She gambled a lot when she was bao-ed previously since money was easy. Now got to work, it's hard earned money for her, so she stopped gambling big.

How best do I help her to get out of WL? Is there social services where she can go seek help? I noticed she has low self esteem outside her circle of WL friends...

Btw, I got no future with this WL because I am married and has 2 kids. She also know we got no future that's why she never acknowledged me as her bf.

[stillgottheblue]

You said she will be working for another 2 years before retiring. How to help like that?

[anthonyKKW]

You said she will be working for another 2 years before retiring. How to help like that?

Two month ago, she told me her target savings (which I cannot remember) and that she is getting old and only can work for another 2 years. I didn't volunteer to help her financially.

I still feel there is some good heart in her. At least she didn't sweet talk me...no matter how much I asked her to, she just refused. When I sweet talk her, she gave me disgusting look. When I sweet talk her too much, she will ask me if I want to marry her and she knows my answer.

My real desire: hope that she can get out of WL, find a proper husband and have a great family.

[pakalolo]

Her financial burden in BkK is not great. Apartment rental is 3500baht a month, but need to send money to brother and papa in hometown who all refuse to work.

10000baht a month should be survivable and no need to be miserable... Good thing is that she quitted her gambling habits. She gambled a lot when she was bao-ed previously since money was easy. Now got to work, it's hard earned money for her, so she stopped gambling big.

How best do I help her to get out of WL? Is there social services where she can go seek help? I noticed she has low self esteem outside her circle of WL friends...

Btw, I got no future with this WL because I am married and has 2 kids. She also know we got no future that's why she never acknowledged me as her bf.

That is the whole trouble with these lazy relative, they think that their sister/cousin/daughter are endless gold mine.mind you some make it known to the girls that they are expected to keep working in the sex industry just to keep the cash coming in.

To make matter worse these girls just feel obligated to help them just becoz of some screw up tradition of having to take care of the less well off family member

It is no wonder that the weaker one will snap and you will find some of the older WL going bonker due to the pressure,sad case.

One WL told me that in her next life even if she is born poor she don't want to be re born a poor Thai

[Nato17]

Is there no end to this madness???? :eek:

Madness, I can concur. But I guess we are just mortals who are searching for the love in the wrong places. :D

[Blast88]

all your plan still is for you to visit her. it just excuses for you to meet her.

for the next why don't you try finding other girls and move on from there. give her a cold shoulder for a few months and see her reaction. who know from there you realize she is not so important to you after all.

How to move on, his 'small head' are controlling him:D

[jnudes]

Thanks guys.

This WL likes children a lot. I saw her FB communications with her friends... Unfortunately, her circle of friends are mostly WLs. She doesn't really know what she can do in BKK for a decent living without being a WL and she doesn't want to go back to hometown to do farming for 200bahts a day..quite sad for her actually.

Last round, when I was in BKK, without her, I was quite lonely. No one to chat with or go dinner/shopping with. All the activities in the MPs were all too transactional..and none wants to go dinner with me, they all need to work thru to midnight. Maybe I am just a boring SG guy..

Sigh. Just no luck for GFE. (Btw, I am quite sceptic about escort service...thought it is all so fake..).

Bro,

Let me tell you this, I don have FB, used to have one before but closed them down for good. I started online with social networking since 1999 with MIRC. Had seen the good and bad of social networking friends. I must admit 99% of them are fake and unreliable. If I want to meet or keep in touch with old friends, we would keep in touch with house phone and meet face to face. Good enough for me.

Unlike your case, I am still single. And when I travel I am alone 90% of the time. Used to complain a lot and feel envy easily seeing most of my friends are married or have friends to accompany them when they are single. I am now in my mid-thirties. I must admit although I am still always alone in my daily life including working life, I am quite contented in my life.

Boring as you may call me or some may even call me miserable in life without much friends. Friends and more friends does not necessary made me happier. Some only find you when they are in trouble, some will only remember you during class reunion, some will take advantage of you for $$, some will blackmail you, some will betray you, etc. And I can tell you here is at least I can lead a normal, healthy and peaceful life. Never mind in my life without friends and lover (teerak).

[justl00king]

Madness, I can concur.Bro,

Your pts 888 and rep 8 super huat! :D

[Notty3]

If you are a person who dwells on someone's past, I think it is better for you to forget about her and move on...

[anthonyKKW]

Bro,

Let me tell you this, I don have FB, used to have one before but closed them down for good. I started online with social networking since 1999 with MIRC. Had seen the good and bad of social networking friends. I must admit 99% of them are fake and unreliable. If I want to meet or keep in touch with old friends, we would keep in touch with house phone and meet face to face. Good enough for me.

Unlike your case, I am still single. And when I travel I am alone 90% of the time. Used to complain a lot and feel envy easily seeing most of my friends are married or have friends to accompany them when they are single. I am now in my mid-thirties. I must admit although I am still always alone in my daily life including working life, I am quite contented in my life.

Boring as you may call me or some may even call me miserable in life without much friends. Friends and more friends does not necessary made me happier. Some only find you when they are in trouble, some will only remember you during class reunion, some will take advantage of you for $$, some will blackmail you, some will betray you, etc. And I can tell you here is at least I can lead a normal, healthy and peaceful life. Never mind in my life without friends and lover (teerak).

Thanks for encouragement, bro.

[Mr.romance]

Hi bros, don't know if my experience is usual. I am a bit stucked with this Thai girl.

I first know her from a soapy massage parlor in Bangkok. Booked her a few times and we got along quite well. Exchanged contacts and also got into Facebook friend as well. Of course I used a new separate FB other my real one...with all my friends and relatives..

I visit Bangkok once every month, everytime I visit Bangkok, I will go book her. Book her for 2hrs massage, pay mama-San 1000baht to buy the rest of her time. We will go dinner and sometimes watch a movie. After that she will stay thru the night with me. Next morning, I will send her home.

Last month, she took a break front the massage parlor, to go back home town to visit her papa. Before she went hometown, I managed to go BkK and spent 3 days with her. Then she went back to hometown. We communicated via FB and she shared her hometown visit experience.

She returned to BkK late Jan, not working yet. I went to BkK again to meet her. We spent 2 days together, she was having period. Made love once, while her period was low flow. I even spent some time at her apartment. Good chat about her future and also had fun together doing things other than sex.

After I return Singapore, she became cold to me. Not answering my SMS and FB postings. She also returned working at massage parlor. I got a little heart-broken...

Last week I went to BKk. She said she had period and cannot meet me. I was sadden. When I was in BKk, I texted her to ask her out for movie. I said 'movie only, no sex'. She agreed and we went out. Good chat and good movie. After that, she went home on her own and I went back to hotel..

We are both still in touch (light touch) over FB.

Can anyone speculate what's happening? Although I am many years older than her, I think she is more mature than me...

interesting thread..reminds me of my "sad" past...stay in bkk...phrae for 2 mths...end up back to square one...this is the lesson of "go by your heart".
At the end of the day, its a relationship that is very difficult to work out. only u will foresee the outcome. nobody here is able to pull u out of the "shit" hole.
U had to be strong and climb it up as you are the one that dig this hole. I jump into in many times and climb up again....its always harder to climb up...

all I can say is "chok dee" (good luck)
cheers

[bumping101]

Ok up for the thread

[hamsapkwai]

How come Sporean guys so dumb? Go look for love among whores and share their miserable lives? Losing a bundle in the process and get dumped when they run put of money?

Why not take a leaf from the pinoy book ? They come and become dance instructors and shack up with rich tai tais .

You know, the well known ones being the lady from Raffles Hotel and also the lady from Hourglass etc.

Get money and sex , ok lah a bit wrinkled and out of shape but still can use mah.

Haiz no wonder we sporean guys are losing respect .

[anthonyKKW]

How come Sporean guys so dumb? Go look for love among whores and share their miserable lives? Losing a bundle in the process and get dumped when they run put of money?

Why not take a leaf from the pinoy book ? They come and become dance instructors and shack up with rich tai tais .

You know, the well known ones being the lady from Raffles Hotel and also the lady from Hourglass etc.

Get money and sex , ok lah a bit wrinkled and out of shape but still can use mah.

Haiz no wonder we sporean guys are losing respect .


I like your 不求天长地久，只求曾经拥有

[jnudes]

I like your 不求天长地久，只求曾经拥有

Bro, you are married with two kids. Mind tell us why still cheong outside? I am still single here. Absolutely no experience of a married man life. How long u married? Perhaps the single bros here can learn something from u...

[anthonyKKW]

My bad. No excuses. It's a evil strong hold.

1. Unsatisfied physical needs
2. Horny
3. Started with HJ
4. Tried FJ one time and got scared
5. Tried a few more FJ occasionally a few years ago and stopped. Went back to HJ.
6. When I go BKK for massage, my standard line is "BM ok, HJ ok, BJ ok but with CD, no sex, ok?"
7. Had a few rounds of massage and HJ with this Thai WL. We didn't even FJ when she sleeps over in my hotel. It was during one HJ session that she "raped" me.
8. FJ with only her thereafter
9. Now got courtship type of feeling. Reminds me of when I was 17. I think there is a song like that.

Sorry, I am a bad role model.

[hamsapkwai]

I like your 不求天长地久，只求曾经拥有

Thanks brother , it should be the cheongster`s creed. If all cheongster follow this then there will be less broken families , failed marriages and also less of those lame threads like " i fell for a FL or kced by a HF joint girl " ;)

[jnudes]

My bad. No excuses. It's a evil strong hold.

1. Unsatisfied physical needs
2. Horny
3. Started with HJ
4. Tried FJ one time and got scared
5. Tried a few more FJ occasionally a few years ago and stopped. Went back to HJ.
6. When I go BKK for massage, my standard line is "BM ok, HJ ok, BJ ok but with CD, no sex, ok?"
7. Had a few rounds of massage and HJ with this Thai WL. We didn't even FJ when she sleeps over in my hotel. It was during one HJ session that she "raped" me.
8. FJ with only her thereafter
9. Now got courtship type of feeling. Reminds me of when I was 17. I think there is a song like that.

Sorry, I am a bad role model.

When I read your posting I just realized getting old is a curse, not for all people but for most people. I think I heard and seen more negative side of marriage. Perhaps it's a blessing I am still single today? I dunno actually. Never think about this matter.

Like your case learn to be good takes time. It is similar to ask a heavy smoker of 3 packets of ciggies per day to quit totally in one day. Impossible, rite?

I can only say this: if you believe in karma I would strongly encourage you to stop for the sake of your wife and children. It's never too late to change. But it will take some time. Of course as a father, you dun wan one day when your children grow up to follow your style, correct?

I understand when a wife grows older and the skin is less youthful and her sex drive is no longer the same as before the husband would always find someone outside. Totally understandable.

But when you cheong you can always choose someone new and do not get involved the emotions and feelings because that is the most painful thing in the end which may always involve third party, money and even your own reputation. More embarrassing if your friends and relatives know about this.

I can say this as I had met a 57 years old grandfather who openly admitted to me of fucking a bar girl who is 20 years his junior (she is 37 years, divorced, got one son) and he also told me he fucked her over 100 times and shoot inside in every sex. Good sex but each time he brought the girl out relatives saw them and talk bad behind him and they really looked down at her as she works as bar girl and sleeps with her customers.

The choice is in your hand. Good luck bro :D

[stillgottheblue]

There is a difference between these cheaters. Some cheat for necessities, some cheat for vanity.

[anthonyKKW]

There is a difference between these cheaters. Some cheat for necessities, some cheat for vanity.

A cheater is a cheater. I am a cheater. Feels guilty.

[stillgottheblue]

I'm meant the WL. Some cheat to buy LV, Some cheat to support son, mother and daughters.

[chanster]

not all the same kind la .. there still the good one .. just that you must be very ready for this before proceed

[anthonyKKW]

I'm meant the WL. Some cheat to buy LV, Some cheat to support son, mother and daughters.

But I didn't feel she is trying to cheat me wor. I felt she is trying stop me from falling deeper and deeper into the hole. She knows we have no future and therefore has kept a emotional distance away from me, both for my sake and for her sake.

...sounds like Korean drama..

[Summerhillt]

Is there no end to this madness???? :eek:

Hi boss. Sometimes people just don't learn :p

[stillgottheblue]

So are you prepared to divorce your wife and marry her? She us helping you to keep your family. Don't disturb her anymore, dude.

But I didn't feel she is trying to cheat me wor. I felt she is trying stop me from falling deeper and deeper into the hole. She knows we have no future and therefore has kept a emotional distance away from me, both for my sake and for her sake.

...sounds like Korean drama..

[VoltaRedonda]

But I didn't feel she is trying to cheat me wor. I felt she is trying stop me from falling deeper and deeper into the hole. She knows we have no future and therefore has kept a emotional distance away from me, both for my sake and for her sake.

...sounds like Korean drama..

Bro take my scenario, when I was 19 I also made friends with an FL who came over to singapore for the 1st time and she was also 19. She regretted coming into this business and I kept close contact with her, I almost wanted to go steady with her as she was quite a thrifty kind and concerned about how I spent my money but I just treated her as my close friend. As soon as she went back to BKK, she worked hard with her marketing degree and she is now a marketing manager in Krung Thai Bank in BKK. When I travelled to BKK 2 months back for shopping and leisure purposes, I met her after work and she was like my tour guide, she conversed well in english and she stayed with me overnight at my hotel. We met up without even discussing after sex and chatted about how our lives went on. Even though when she stayed with me and we still ended up having sex, Its just that we missed each other company and we spent time reminiscing. My whole BKK trip was just spent with her not on her, meals we paid for each other and even shopping she did pay for me. I will chat with her over skype whenever I am in Singapore, close friends, fuck-buddy whatever but can never be steady.

You said you sent an sms to her saying can we meet for a movie??? Just movie, no sex. That I feel is a wrong signal and impression to her, you are talking to her the way you talk to a whore. To her she feels violated and sad you cant separate her work and her life outside of work. Well I wish the best for you two :D

[sammyboyfor]

But I didn't feel she is trying to cheat me wor. I felt she is trying stop me from falling deeper and deeper into the hole. She knows we have no future and therefore has kept a emotional distance away from me, both for my sake and for her sake.

...sounds like Korean drama..

It's worse than a Korean drama. It sounds like a freakin load of bullshit. You're so divorced from reality you must be high on something.:rolleyes:

[singmarine]

She let u cum inside her?

[tenggiri]

It's worse than a Korean drama. It sounds like a freakin load of bullshit. You're so divorced from reality you must be high on something.:rolleyes:

I think you should start a course on how to handle a WL kc trap boss.
Cos the stickies don't seem to be working.

[anthonyKKW]

Bro take my scenario, when I was 19 I also made friends with an FL who came over to singapore for the 1st time and she was also 19. She regretted coming into this business and I kept close contact with her, I almost wanted to go steady with her as she was quite a thrifty kind and concerned about how I spent my money but I just treated her as my close friend. As soon as she went back to BKK, she worked hard with her marketing degree and she is now a marketing manager in Krung Thai Bank in BKK. When I travelled to BKK 2 months back for shopping and leisure purposes, I met her after work and she was like my tour guide, she conversed well in english and she stayed with me overnight at my hotel. We met up without even discussing after sex and chatted about how our lives went on. Even though when she stayed with me and we still ended up having sex, Its just that we missed each other company and we spent time reminiscing. My whole BKK trip was just spent with her not on her, meals we paid for each other and even shopping she did pay for me. I will chat with her over skype whenever I am in Singapore, close friends, fuck-buddy whatever but can never be steady.

You said you sent an sms to her saying can we meet for a movie??? Just movie, no sex. That I feel is a wrong signal and impression to her, you are talking to her the way you talk to a whore. To her she feels violated and sad you cant separate her work and her life outside of work. Well I wish the best for you two :D

Good point. Close friend, fuck buddy, but never buddy. Also, I should be sensitive and be respectful. Shouldn't talk to her like talking to a whore. Thanks. I stand corrected.

[anthonyKKW]

Going to BkK again. Texted her. She said she is going back hometown the day a arrive. Truly, I recalled last month she told me she is going back hometown for ChengMeng festival.

Damn sian, I won't be able to meet her this round...:(

[pakalolo]

Going to BkK again. Texted her. She said she is going back hometown the day a arrive. Truly, I recalled last month she told me she is going back hometown for ChengMeng festival.

Damn sian, I won't be able to meet her this round...:(

Go to her hometown:D

[anthonyKKW]

Go to her hometown:D

Yes, once I said to her that I’ll go to hometown with her. She said NO, unless I want to marry her. In her hometown, the girl only bring the man back to ask permission from papa and mama to get married. Therefore the answer is NO.

[stillgottheblue]

She not around can look for new new new ones :)

[anthonyKKW]

She not around can look for new new new ones :)

Ok lor... Maybe, I should ask her to introduce me to her friends in the MP. What do you think? Good idea?

[pakalolo]

Yes, once I said to her that I’ll go to hometown with her. She said NO, unless I want to marry her. In her hometown, the girl only bring the man back to ask permission from papa and mama to get married. Therefore the answer is NO.

Anyone heard of that before:confused:

[cohen]

Ok lor... Maybe, I should ask her to introduce me to her friends in the MP. What do you think? Good idea?

Out of the frying pan and into the fire :eek:

[kenergy]

Damn sian, I won't be able to meet her this round...:(
unbelievable! Your Mindset remind of me those just dropout from school.

Don't waste time bro. You're mature enough to differentiate what do n dnt

[harunoki]

Ok lor... Maybe, I should ask her to introduce me to her friends in the MP. What do you think? Good idea?

Will you recommend your guy friends to book her? If you're fine with it, then I supposed it's fine too to ask her to record her friends to you.

[ThaiBeautiful]

Thai KC is still strong. :D

[stillgottheblue]

Anyone heard of that before:confused:

Yes, these are mostly from the northern side of Thailand.

[pakalolo]

Yes, these are mostly from the northern side of Thailand.

I goes to the northern side very often,like every 2 months or so and stay there for 30 days.
If the girls are below certain age and decent kampong girl then yes.

But this girl TS refer to is no angel so don't think that is the reason she doesn't want him in her home town.

More likely she have a BF or husband she doesn't want TS to know.

[ashleyC]

Thai KC is still strong. :D

Bro u still around!!!!????:eek::)

[stillgottheblue]

TS is madly in love with her, cannot control his heart already.

[anthonyKKW]

TS is madly in love with her, cannot control his heart already.

Maybe I am just lonely...

[ameth]

ts, why don't you just plan a trip elsewhere rather than going to thai?

this will just be giving you more excuses to see her!!

:cool:

[anthonyKKW]

Going BKK for work..but always have time at nights..

[stillgottheblue]

Are u going through mid-life crisis? At night got time can call home, go jalan jalan and do wholesome activities.

Maybe I am just lonely...

[anthonyKKW]

555, mid life crisis. Long over already...got second round mid life crisis one meh?

[stillgottheblue]

Then why you still feel lonely at such age?

[nookie2612]

1. U are a fool.....and not the first...and i suspect not the last....

2. Wake up...u are married and with kids....wat do u want out of all this yearning and whining?

3. Its obvious she is trying to avoid u for some reason...so let it be...

4. Dun be a cock...bangkok is a place for u to have fun not find a gf or get into a relationship (unless u are working here like me)

5. Come to Bangkok to have fun...link up with some guys here to party together....but just for ur own sake and ur family's sake....dun fall into the bloody KC trap....

Time to wake up buddy!:D

[stillgottheblue]

The girl is kind. Don't want to destroy your family, cheat your $. If you insist on going after her, she may hardened her heart and suck all you have.

[babyckh]

bro anthony,

how long had you been married? tired of your wife already?

That thai lady of yours may had given you that kind of unforgettable feeling that you had lost many moons ago, whenever you see her.

However, it will come a day that the feeling with this thai lady will be lost when you meet with another thai/viet/prc lady a few years later.

This is lust, not love. Reserve your love to your family, your wife and your kids.

Trust me, when you get old, the person who take care of you will probably be your wife and noone else.

It is ok to eat outside but as all bros in sbf always said, fuck, pay and forget. Wanna drink milk also no need to bring a cow home.

[anthonyKKW]

A big thank you to all bros! You guys really have a kind heart for a fellow SBf.

Arrived BkK today. Texted her. She said she is 'still in BKK, busy busy, cannot meet up, maybe going back hometown tonight'. I think it's all bullshit.

I have deleted her number from my phone and decided to delete her from my life too!

[anthonyKKW]

But bros, out of curiosity and for future defence...how do you tell if a girl is trying to KC you?

I am quite careful with my money. Makan, drinks, buy some clothes won't cost much...For sure I will say NO if the girl wants expensive handbags...

[stillgottheblue]

Finally you woke up!

You can tell the gal KC you only if you are cleaver than her. No matter how experienced, you'll meet your match one day if you lead this kind of life, just like he who lives by the sword, will die by the sword.

Don't talk anything with the girl, don't visit the same girl more than twice, don't love them and best of all don't led this kind of life. You don't go in, won't get hurt.

[anthonyKKW]

Finally you woke up!

You can tell the gal KC you only if you are cleaver than her. No matter how experienced, you'll meet your match one day if you lead this kind of life, just like he who lives by the sword, will die by the sword.

Don't talk anything with the girl, don't visit the same girl more than twice, don't love them and best of all don't led this kind of life. You don't go in, won't get hurt.

You are a good counsellor. I really need to quit this GFE addiction...

[<<totally>>]

But bros, out of curiosity and for future defence...Never ask for their contact number or name. Each girl has only one time usage. Do not repeated calling the same.

NEVER LEARN THAI. The more you know the language, the longer will be the conversation. By not learning, you will be quite saved.

I try to forget how to speak but i never succeeded.:(

[fictionman]

But bros, out of curiosity and for future defence...how do you tell if a girl is trying to KC you?

I am quite careful with my money. Makan, drinks, buy some clothes won't cost much...For sure I will say NO if the girl wants expensive handbags...

Bro...U r not a small boy anymore...I think u can think as an adult rite!!!

[anthonyKKW]

Bro...U r not a small boy anymore...I think u can think as an adult rite!!!

No, I am no small boy. I am just new to cheong. I don't know what I don't know, that's why I really appreciate advice and experience from senior cheongsters. How to get max GFE and yet not get KCed. I think that's the challenge.

[flowbow]

I have deleted her number from my phone and decided to delete her from my life too!

That's good to know, but hopefully you don't cave in when her texts/calls come pouring in. It's never easy to get out of a kc trap and I hope you succeed. :)

[sean69]

No, I am no small boy. I am just new to cheong. I don't know what I don't know, that's why I really appreciate advice and experience from senior cheongsters. How to get max GFE and yet not get KCed. I think that's the challenge.

and also to make sure they are not post-ops .. :D

[Iemanishere]

Bro anthonykkw

Well.. so did she call after all the...
Thai people are very smart ones they know u are no more the money bag thy move on... but in which all or most girls of the night life are like that...

[anthonyKKW]

Bro anthonykkw

Well.. so did she call after all the...
Thai people are very smart ones they know u are no more the money bag thy move on... but in which all or most girls of the night life are like that...

No she didn't call, and I hope she wouldn't call because I will be in a dilemma whether to give her the benefit of the doubt or not..

Good luck to all of us!

[Blast88]

[QUOTE=anthonyKKW;8649539]But bros, out of curiosity and for future defence...how do you tell if a girl is trying to KC you?

That was a simple question, the moment u discovered u left with empty pocket then confirmed u r being KCed:D

[anthonyKKW]

[QUOTE=anthonyKKW;8649539]But bros, out of curiosity and for future defence...how do you tell if a girl is trying to KC you?

That was a simple question, the moment u discovered u left with empty pocket then confirmed u r being KCed:D

If that's the symptom for being KCed then, shit, I have been KCed on Monday.

Monday, arrived BKK. Since my this Thai lady friend ditched me, I went to look for a FL whom I know her from my last month's trip. LINE messaged her. Her name is TP (quite a long Thai name actually). She works in a MP, occasionally, she says. 23years old, SYT. Quite shy type.

Paid 1900baht, Got into a 90mins session with her, but we spent most of the time chatting. It took me a long time to convince her to go out dinner with me. But mama-san says I have to pay to bring her out. So I paid 3000baht, that will buy her for the rest of the evening.

Had Korean BBQ dinner, it's her first time eating Korean BBQ. Had great time together. She has a sad story, not the most sad I have came across, but quite sad. She felt a bit sorry for me that I have pay 3000baht to mama-san and she has to go home soon because her papa has been calling her. Yes, she will get 1500 out of that and she appreciated. So, she offered to "take care of me, no need pay mama-san" the next day which she has decided not to work. We agreed to meet again the next day.

Summary for Monday: brought 6000baht out, left with 200baht back to hotel. Enjoyed the evening.

I think more like carrot than KC. Or is it the same?

[stillgottheblue]

You enjoyed the evening that is enough said. The new girl is putting out her line, waiting for bait liao, hahaha... Target spotted.

[Blast88]

[QUOTE=Blast88;8656827]

If that's the symptom for being KCed then, shit, I have been KCed on Monday.

Monday, arrived BKK. Since my this Thai lady friend ditched me, I went to look for a FL whom I know her from my last month's trip. LINE messaged her. Her name is TP (quite a long Thai name actually). She works in a MP, occasionally, she says. 23years old, SYT. Quite shy type.

Paid 1900baht, Got into a 90mins session with her, but we spent most of the time chatting. It took me a long time to convince her to go out dinner with me. But mama-san says I have to pay to bring her out. So I paid 3000baht, that will buy her for the rest of the evening.

Had Korean BBQ dinner, it's her first time eating Korean BBQ. Had great time together. She has a sad story, not the most sad I have came across, but quite sad. She felt a bit sorry for me that I have pay 3000baht to mama-san and she has to go home soon because her papa has been calling her. Yes, she will get 1500 out of that and she appreciated. So, she offered to "take care of me, no need pay mama-san" the next day which she has decided not to work. We agreed to meet again the next day.

Summary for Monday: brought 6000baht out, left with 200baht back to hotel. Enjoyed the evening.

I think more like carrot than KC. Or is it the same?

Not only carrot, it sound like a potato which turn into a french fries & being eaten up bit by bit:D

[jnudes]

[QUOTE=Blast88;8656827]

If that's the symptom for being KCed then, shit, I have been KCed on Monday.

Monday, arrived BKK. Since my this Thai lady friend ditched me, I went to look for a FL whom I know her from my last month's trip. LINE messaged her. Her name is TP (quite a long Thai name actually). She works in a MP, occasionally, she says. 23years old, SYT. Quite shy type.

Paid 1900baht, Got into a 90mins session with her, but we spent most of the time chatting. It took me a long time to convince her to go out dinner with me. But mama-san says I have to pay to bring her out. So I paid 3000baht, that will buy her for the rest of the evening.

Had Korean BBQ dinner, it's her first time eating Korean BBQ. Had great time together. She has a sad story, not the most sad I have came across, but quite sad. She felt a bit sorry for me that I have pay 3000baht to mama-san and she has to go home soon because her papa has been calling her. Yes, she will get 1500 out of that and she appreciated. So, she offered to "take care of me, no need pay mama-san" the next day which she has decided not to work. We agreed to meet again the next day.

Summary for Monday: brought 6000baht out, left with 200baht back to hotel. Enjoyed the evening.

I think more like carrot than KC. Or is it the same?

What language did you use to communicate with her? Thai? English? As far as I know my Thai sucks badly. Even if I can afford to book her overnight I think communication wise will have tough time with her. Need to learn some communication skills from you bro. :D

[anthonyKKW]

[QUOTE=anthonyKKW;8657667]

What language did you use to communicate with her? Thai? English? As far as I know my Thai sucks badly. Even if I can afford to book her overnight I think communication wise will have tough time with her. Need to learn some communication skills from you bro. :D

Bro, you are absolutely correct. Comms is a problem. I am zero at Thai and TP's English is really bad. We were patient with each other, speak slowly and use very simple words. Hand actions helps too. We sometimes use the help of Google translator as well. That's the reason we can only be friends and not close friends because we don't know the language, culture and background. (My previous Thai lady friend, Ning, thought me this, even though she can speak reasonable English)

[anthonyKKW]

[QUOTE=anthonyKKW;8657667]

Not only carrot, it sound like a potato which turn into a french fries & being eaten up bit by bit:D

You are very funny.

[anthonyKKW]

Die, I just found out that Ning (the name of my Thai lady friend), really went back to hometown. Seems that I have wronged her...

[SushiJiro]

Die, I just found out that Ning (the name of my Thai lady friend), really went back to hometown. Seems that I have wronged her...

Even if she did not lie to you over this incident, i think the more important question you have to ask yourself is are you willing to continue this relationship with her and what kind of future you see for the both of you.

[prancku]

Die, I just found out that Ning (the name of my Thai lady friend), really went back to hometown. Seems that I have wronged her...

Seems to me you are rather emotionally tied to her already. Your comment points to you feeling guilty for a perceived wrong committed by you.

As an outsider, we do not know fully your situation and relationship with this WL, but many advices have already been given to you - just fuck and forget. Main reason - your girlfriend who gave you your best girl friend feeling is a WL. She is used to the kind of lifestyle and easy money and it would be extremely difficult for her to break this method and way of earning a living. Besides, due to language problem, you do not really know her very well, nor understand her culture, her thinking and attitude towards life. What you have gone through was just girl friend feeling without the actual foundations for a full relationship. In other words, merely surface contact and communication. For all you know, you are just one of the fishes hooked on her rather long fishing rod. The times what she was not with you, unavailable or especially back home, her time was taken up by other fishes, inclusive of possibly husband or thai bfs.

You said yourself you have deleted her number from your handphone and determined to end the relationship. Yet now, apparently you are in touch with her and knows that she has gone back home. You are confused and yet to give up this so called 'relationship'.

Just to let you know, one of the wiles of a kc trap is to ignore or cold shoulder you for some time and then come back again. This is foxy manipulation, man. If you fall into this, you will find it difficult to pull yourself out again. My advice for you is that spend some time and do some searches on this forum on brothers who have been kced and snookered by WL, FLs, whores and learn your lessons. You will be shocked by their stories.

Once you fall into a kc trap, the end result will be that you will suffer not only financial loss but family storms, emotional upheavals and possibily even the breakup of your family. When you next wake up and realise it, it may be just too late and the damages are done.

Do what you want and what ought to be right for you as a thinking adult.

Thanks for reading my rather long post and possibly unwelcome advice. Good luck to you. Sawadee carp.

[stillgottheblue]

You're already married with two kids while the Thai girl is single. You're being selfish and will end up hurting both parties and your kids. Your kids will grow up hating you for leaving Mom for another younger slut.

You visited her in BBK because you're feeling lonely and need company.

A man must know how to go home after having fun at night. Don't loose you soul in the neon lights and sensuous music of Bangkok.

[ahpui99]

A few of my friends kenna. I had a few close calls myself. Go and get other WLs if u must. Get it out if your system and go home everyday

[pollux69]

Been reading this thread ever since it was started and have no intend to pen in but TS is getting too much. All he wants is attention from us and his free bonks.
I have been cheonging for more than 15 years, Thai, Viet, Korean, Japs, Russian, Indon and even Uzbekistans. For bros that remember, Uzbeks use to hang out at Jl Besar, Kitchener rd area, cant see any of them now. I even fly down to Tashkent to meet this girl Natasia whom i met first time at Classique Hotel here, we became very close, even get many free bonks from her. So till now stay single.
What im tryin to say is that many of us kena KCed before, but we know where we stand. This kind of guy just come and go in SBF.
Double confirmed another guy with the same scenario will come in again.
This TS just dont care of the many advices given here,he dont care about his wife well-being, he dont care about his childrens future, he dont care about that Thai Wl too, all he cares is that he get his free bonks by going out makan & entertainment.
She already knows that she is not getting money from him nor she will get any future with this guy, so she decided to move on, but this guy still want to cling to her.
Just like another bro told him to wake up, but until now still whining.
Told us lies that he deleted her number but still knows that she balik kampung.
What is he trying to get out of all this? The answer is simple- attention from us and free bonks from her.
Married with 2 childs yet so childish & naive. I can guarantee with all you guys that even if you give him 1001 advices, he will still do the same thing because he thinks with his small head. He will show you like he care but in fact he DONT CARE. Family is the most important of all above any WLs.

[flowbow]

Been reading this thread ever since it was started and have no intend to pen in but TS is getting too much. All he wants is attention from us and his free bonks.
I have been cheonging for more than 15 years, Thai, Viet, Korean, Japs, Russian, Indon and even Uzbekistans. For bros that remember, Uzbeks use to hang out at Jl Besar, Kitchener rd area, cant see any of them now. I even fly down to Tashkent to meet this girl Natasia whom i met first time at Classique Hotel here, we became very close, even get many free bonks from her. So till now stay single.
What im tryin to say is that many of us kena KCed before, but we know where we stand. This kind of guy just come and go in SBF.
Double confirmed another guy with the same scenario will come in again.
This TS just dont care of the many advices given here,he dont care about his wife well-being, he dont care about his childrens future, he dont care about that Thai Wl too, all he cares is that he get his free bonks by going out makan & entertainment.
She already knows that she is not getting money from him nor she will get any future with this guy, so she decided to move on, but this guy still want to cling to her.
Just like another bro told him to wake up, but until now still whining.
Told us lies that he deleted her number but still knows that she balik kampung.
What is he trying to get out of all this? The answer is simple- attention from us and free bonks from her.
Married with 2 childs yet so childish & naive. I can guarantee with all you guys that even if you give him 1001 advices, he will still do the same thing because he thinks with his small head. He will show you like he care but in fact he DONT CARE. Family is the most important of all above any WLs.
I believe it's not that he doesn't care about his family la. I believe he started this thread with an intention to seek advice since he thinks he kenna kc gao gao already, but unable to heed all advice because he let the emotions get the better of him. Then you might say: if he can't heed the advice, then ask for what?

Sometimes there are many things we want to do, but when our mind struggles with our heart over what is the most right/rational action to take, most of the time our heart wins... Unless you're a very strong-willed person. I know I'm not, so I can fully understand what TS is going through.

Btw, I'm not siding him or anything like that, I too agree that he should not be in this situation right now since he's already married with kids, and I completely am against him being in contact with this Thai WL. I'm just saying I can empathise with his situation; that's the reason why it's called kc and why some people can remain kc for years. Still, at the end of the day it all boils down to how determined one is. If you're determined to break out of the kc trap, you will be able to regardless of anything.

[hOsEhKiA]

fuck this TS case closed. let him burn to death ba guys

[fictionman]

fuck this TS case closed. let him burn to death ba guys

TS just wat to prolong this thread...Im outta here...

[anthonyKKW]

Seems to me you are rather emotionally tied to her already. Your comment points to you feeling guilty for a perceived wrong committed by you.

As an outsider, we do not know fully your situation and relationship with this WL, but many advices have already been given to you - just fuck and forget. Main reason - your girlfriend who gave you your best girl friend feeling is a WL. She is used to the kind of lifestyle and easy money and it would be extremely difficult for her to break this method and way of earning a living. Besides, due to language problem, you do not really know her very well, nor understand her culture, her thinking and attitude towards life. What you have gone through was just girl friend feeling without the actual foundations for a full relationship. In other words, merely surface contact and communication. For all you know, you are just one of the fishes hooked on her rather long fishing rod. The times what she was not with you, unavailable or especially back home, her time was taken up by other fishes, inclusive of possibly husband or thai bfs.

You said yourself you have deleted her number from your handphone and determined to end the relationship. Yet now, apparently you are in touch with her and knows that she has gone back home. You are confused and yet to give up this so called 'relationship'.

Just to let you know, one of the wiles of a kc trap is to ignore or cold shoulder you for some time and then come back again. This is foxy manipulation, man. If you fall into this, you will find it difficult to pull yourself out again. My advice for you is that spend some time and do some searches on this forum on brothers who have been kced and snookered by WL, FLs, whores and learn your lessons. You will be shocked by their stories.

Once you fall into a kc trap, the end result will be that you will suffer not only financial loss but family storms, emotional upheavals and possibily even the breakup of your family. When you next wake up and realise it, it may be just too late and the damages are done.

Do what you want and what ought to be right for you as a thinking adult.

Thanks for reading my rather long post and possibly unwelcome advice. Good luck to you. Sawadee carp.

Chinese saying: good advice is often painful for the ears. Thanks, bro, although its painful good advice.

[anthonyKKW]

Appreciated all your comments, sharing and encouragement.

I just thought of being truthful over my "messed up feelings" and having someone to talk to this matter (confidentially).

Sorry that I have pissed off some bros.

Let me figure out how to close this thread.

[timeonmyhands]

Not the first time a client has become emotional with the service provider. Is this how you think of her? If this is no longer the case, perhaps that is where your conflict is ... that her current status has not changed and you no longer feel like a client but something more.

Anyway, "catch and release" you could still be theone that makes the choice, power to you. "Catch and bring home"... gets complicated.

Choices, such a beautiful thing. When you go against your better judgement, thats when internal conflicts start!

[adonis]

What does a seasoned smart Cassanova do when his Thai tirak or any other nationality whore turned girlfren asks for pocket money? Thanks.

[anthonyKKW]

What does a seasoned smart Cassanova do when his Thai tirak or any other nationality whore turned girlfren asks for pocket money? Thanks.

Ning has been ”bao”ed once before by a American who works in Singapore and visits BKK once every month. She was bao-ed for close to 6 months before they broke up. She received pocket money every month. Easy money. That's when she started gambling and lost all her money. She realized that easy money means easy go. She no longer wants to be bao-ed want to depend on herself.

Unfortunately she has no skills, no education. Her circle of friends are all WLs and even her sister in BKK is also WL. She has been thinking of how to get out of the WL service provider business and maintain a reasonable lifestyle.

In short, we had spoke about the topic of pocket money, but no, she wouldn't want pocket money from me.

[anthonyKKW]

Not the first time a client has become emotional with the service provider. Is this how you think of her? If this is no longer the case, perhaps that is where your conflict is ... that her current status has not changed and you no longer feel like a client but something more.

Anyway, "catch and release" you could still be theone that makes the choice, power to you. "Catch and bring home"... gets complicated.

Choices, such a beautiful thing. When you go against your better judgement, thats when internal conflicts start!

You hit the nail, bro. Yes, it's a struggle for me. Is it a client relationship or is it a friend relationship? Sometimes I feel it's both.

[ahpui99]

Ouch

All of us have either kenna, closed to kenna or had a friend who kenna.

It is scewed up but WL is WL

[timeonmyhands]

We all have compassion and if valued and appreciated in light of being a blessing and grace, the universe will bless all kind souls and the world gets a little better with each act of kindness. Lady probably pressed the right buttons with you and she hit jackpot when you respond with generosity. But seriously, how many strays do you want to bring home?

Many of us here rate the service provider with a GFE factor. The pros will distance themselves when they see that the client sees this a real. Some will take the extra step to milk. I am not saying this lady is any of the above but pause and if any rescuing is needed, its to extract yourself to what is real and what is a possibility. Yes, marry her, have kids and learn more than sawasdee. That is possibility, a fantasy that you perhaps can make real. But is she the real beneficiary of your action or just a fulfilemt of yoir urge that will probably fade.

No offense but you can do better with your life sir.

[Metzloff]

Dear TS

You've had good times with your massage girl-treat it as a nice interlude in your life but you have to get back to your REAL life with your wife and kids.You might want to check out the Stickman site-plenty of stories there about guys ( mainly Ang Mo) losing their way in BKK and abandoning their wives, kids and jobs. Most don't turn out very well.

[stillgottheblue]

WL + Gambler = Epic Fail.

What else to say? Maths can solved many difficult issues in life.

[adonis]

anthonyKKW it sounds like love if she doesn't want pocket money from u.

[wells]

Do you have load of cash to feed her or put it nicely "invest"?

If you cannot she will go back to her trade...becoz that trade is easy money.

trust the experiences of the few bros advice given to you.

[adonis]

Amendment: Maybe she has other sources of income...

[anthonyKKW]

The advice from all good bros out here points towards a common principle: Do not cross the line when it starts to impact the family.

The advice is well received.

My conclusion is that I should only desire that Ning be my friend and BKK companion, and it stops there.

[carmeo88]

Many bros here have given you their say here already, just walk straight and don't look back. That's life.

[prancku]

My conclusion is that I should only desire that Ning be my friend and BKK companion, and it stops there.

Looks like you still want your cake and eat it. So be it.

Sometimes the line between the family and your private actions are not so clear, even if you try to keep them separate.

For example, if you ever do it RAW, you are exposing yourself to diseases that she is exposed to, not forgetting that she is WL and she does with ang mos too. This trip no problem, no guarantee between this trip and next trip, she might pick up something for free for you!!!

Even if you do not do it RAW, you can never be sure your other actions in the bedroom with her are absolutely safe .... a cut in the lips, a sore in the mouth, a lick in the cxxx or combinations of these ...are all potential sources of infection. Such infections can be brought back to the family, including of children...

The above is written, not to frighten you, but just stating the obvious.

As much as you want to neatly segregate your life, but often times things just don't work out the way we wanted or planned.

Again, you do what you want, just be prepared to pay the price when the cards are on the table.

Enough said. Cheers.

[incubus]

The advice from all good bros out here points towards a common principle: Do not cross the line when it starts to impact the family.

The advice is well received.

My conclusion is that I should only desire that Ning be my friend and BKK companion, and it stops there.

after reading 8 pages.. i think it wouldnt stop at jus being friend/companion. You will jus fall deeper. Seems like u have an affinity for WLs. Try to go elsewhere other than MPs or bonk related places.

[anthonyKKW]

after reading 8 pages.. i think it wouldnt stop at jus being friend/companion. You will jus fall deeper. Seems like u have an affinity for WLs. Try to go elsewhere other than MPs or bonk related places.

Thanks bro. Self-control is important. I am gradually switching to clean hair spa at saloon like MTW.. Clean, safe and shiok.

[astreal69]

Ning has been ”bao”ed once before by a American who works in Singapore and visits BKK once every month. She was bao-ed for close to 6 months before they broke up. She received pocket money every month. Easy money. That's when she started gambling and lost all her money. She realized that easy money means easy go. She no longer wants to be bao-ed want to depend on herself.

Unfortunately she has no skills, no education. Her circle of friends are all WLs and even her sister in BKK is also WL. She has been thinking of how to get out of the WL service provider business and maintain a reasonable lifestyle.

In short, we had spoke about the topic of pocket money, but no, she wouldn't want pocket money from me.

Many of these WLs potray the impression that they are forced into the industry but actually i disagreed. A minority maybe but most are tempted more than obligated.

Majority of these WLs have a common trait which is no will power. They don't have the will power to suffer and find a decent and progressive job. They chose the easy way out.They easily succumbed into the temptation of the different types of vices available: drugs, alcohol, gambling etc..... Of cause with this type of occupation comes with these kind of friends. They don't help either.

Many have thought about leaving the WLs scene cause they know themselves it is a short career and a occupation being frown upon. But how many actually do have the will power?

I would say a tiny handful and i hope for your girl to be one of them. ;)

[anthonyKKW]

Back to BkK again. Looked for TP in the evening. Shit, almost kena con by her. You can call me heartless, but I walked away while she was crying and I hopped into a taxi and bye bye to her.

Damn. I was so nice to her and yet...

All hail Samsters here! You guys are right, most are out there to cheat.

[jnudes]

Back to BkK again. Looked for TP in the evening. Shit, almost kena con by her. You can call me heartless, but I walked away while she was crying and I hopped into a taxi and bye bye to her.

Damn. I was so nice to her and yet...

All hail Samsters here! You guys are right, most are out there to cheat.

How many of this ex-whores would have good life in their 30s, 40s and beyond? I had asked this question to an ex-whore's son. He told me her mother used to work at pub and bedded many men.

She got pregnant and he was the first child when her mother was only 15. And he told me he only met his father once in his entire life. When I met this guy he was only 20 years old back in 2009. We got to know as he was taking care of the cybercafe all by himself and I was the regular visitor.

She then gave birth to another 2 children (his half brother and sister) with two different men. All of the guys are the same type; fuck, make her mother pregnant and abandon her and the children. And now the single mother looks quite old at 39 years and survive by selling fried noodles at hawker stall.

As he replied me: "In my entire life I only seen one couple - pub gal and her client husband, having a loyal and happy life together, meaning - how many person they bedded before does not matter as long as they stay faithful to each other after getting married. And the rest have either fucked life (single mothers) and miserable (poor) life with no stable income or earn very little."

[AsianConqueror]

Many of these WLs potray the impression that they are forced into the industry but actually i disagreed. A minority maybe but most are tempted more than obligated.

Majority of these WLs have a common trait which is no will power. They don't have the will power to suffer and find a decent and progressive job. They chose the easy way out.They easily succumbed into the temptation of the different types of vices available: drugs, alcohol, gambling etc..... Of cause with this type of occupation comes with these kind of friends. They don't help either.

Many have thought about leaving the WLs scene cause they know themselves it is a short career and a occupation being frown upon. But how many actually do have the will power?

I would say a tiny handful and i hope for your girl to be one of them. ;)

Spot on.with thier extended family pressure things just get worse.lazy brothers,lazy sister,lazy mother,father,uncle,aunty,cousin,ex husband,ex bf,good friend,childhood friend+++ etc.

Many guys think'my girl is different'

Yeah.it truly different.they make u screw up in the ass more than u ever did before!

[clarencesbf]

Classic case of self-denial.... Came to ask for advice whereby you knew what will be the outcome. Feeling lonely whereas no one to talk to because of embarrassment. You might had considered the outcome already. Sometimes one just need regret to wake up. But I can see at least the WL is a good one, maybe not a bad character but since you have a family why did you spend so much time, so much money to build a family and want to make it fail. But at least we all know, we chiongsterall unite as one to combat to evil temptation and wake up one another when required. 2cents..

[anthonyKKW]

Classic case of self-denial.... Came to ask for advice whereby you knew what will be the outcome. Feeling lonely whereas no one to talk to because of embarrassment. You might had considered the outcome already. Sometimes one just need regret to wake up. But I can see at least the WL is a good one, maybe not a bad character but since you have a family why did you spend so much time, so much money to build a family and want to make it fail. But at least we all know, we chiongsterall unite as one to combat to evil temptation and wake up one another when required. 2cents..

Reflecting...ai yah starting to ask myself why chiong in the first place...

[clarencesbf]

Reflecting...ai yah starting to ask myself why chiong in the first place...

Frankly, Chionging is fine... I mean one enter a game and he should at least know some rules and regulations. what can be done and what not to be done. Same as when you are going to get married also know the game and how to play the game better so that you always get your ass covered.

[darrendon]

Back to BkK again. Looked for TP in the evening. Shit, almost kena con by her. You can call me heartless, but I walked away while she was crying and I hopped into a taxi and bye bye to her.

Damn. I was so nice to her and yet...

All hail Samsters here! You guys are right, most are out there to cheat.

Sorry to say but can you provide a future for her?
Since you cannot marry her, what more do you expect from her?

[angelheart66]

kinda sad some guys are falling for a prostitute. Nothing wrong bout the prostitute, but guys seek companionship that's why they visit them in the first place... but getting attached, that's a little over the line

[anthonyKKW]

Sorry to say but can you provide a future for her?
Since you cannot marry her, what more do you expect from her?

Yes, I cannot provide a future for TP. But that doesn't mean I deserved to be conned. At least, I expect some kind of basic honesty. I treated her as a friend. Friends don't con friends.

[HCKing]

Yes, I cannot provide a future for TP. But that doesn't mean I deserved to be conned. At least, I expect some kind of basic honesty. I treated her as a friend. Friends don't con friends.

really wonder hw old r u ah......:rolleyes:

[darrendon]

Yes, I cannot provide a future for TP. But that doesn't mean I deserved to be conned. At least, I expect some kind of basic honesty. I treated her as a friend. Friends don't con friends.

How does she con you btw? Tell you that she won't work as WL anymore but still going back? :rolleyes: Hmm....
Since you cannot provide her anything other than just going to visit her every once and then for companionship, what more do you expect from her?

To them. It is very simple and straight forward. I will say most of them but not all of course.
They treat most guys especially those who are their clients as "clients" who they wanted to earn $$ from. Of course they will want someone to love them and pamper them but then they are more conscious of "bread and butter" more than love.
Even if you marry her. they usually will not let you know where exactly their hometown is etc or bring you back to their hometown. This is to protect themselves if circumstances doesn't go well. It is not their fault as this is how their culture and parent cultivates them since young.

I know sometimes emotion takes over logic. I have always been through that as well.
But for girls in that region, just don't take it too seriously unless you can provide a future for them and you can take care of their family etc in terms of $$ for life, there is basically nothing you can do to change her mindset. And yes. I mean for life. If not sooner or later, she will still fly back to her family eventually or find another safe haven.

Btw, the above is just my personal opinion. :)

[pakalolo]

How does she con you btw? Tell you that she won't work as WL anymore but still going back? :rolleyes: Hmm....
Since you cannot provide her anything other than just going to visit her every once and then for companionship, what more do you expect from her?

To them. It is very simple and straight forward. I will say most of them but not all of course.
They treat most guys especially those who are their clients as "clients" who they wanted to earn $$ from. Of course they will want someone to love them and pamper them but then they are more conscious of "bread and butter" more than love.
Even if you marry her. they usually will not let you know where exactly their hometown is etc or bring you back to their hometown. This is to protect themselves if circumstances doesn't go well. It is not their fault as this is how their culture and parent cultivates them since young.

I know sometimes emotion takes over logic. I have always been through that as well.
But for girls in that region, just don't take it too seriously unless you can provide a future for them and you can take care of their family etc in terms of $$ for life, there is basically nothing you can do to change her mindset. And yes. I mean for life. If not sooner or later, she will still fly back to her family eventually or find another safe haven.

Btw, the above is just my personal opinion. :)

I have met quite a few guys who make it good with a Thai former WL. As I have mentioned somewhere that if she is over 30 then chances of a successful relationship is higher as by then she would have realized that her days as a WL is numbered and she will need some kind of security when she no longer making it in the industry.
So if she is over 30 and if there is someone who show interest in them they will probably try to hook him and make it good with him.
The guys that I have met who made it with former WL are those who are sensible or lucky enough to met the right one that don't screw them up.
The former WL really quit and take up job helping their hubby from pig farming, rice growing, running shops etc etc.
At the end of the day it all boils down to how determine the WL is about quitting.
This is just my humble observation, feel free to disagree if anyone think i am wrong. :D

[anthonyKKW]

really wonder hw old r u ah......:rolleyes:

Bro, I am old enough to know that I shouldn't con my friends. I am also old enough to sense people trying to con me. Have a open heart, give people the benefit of the doubt, try to treat others nice, give with a cheerful heart.

[HCKing]

Bro, I am old enough to know that I shouldn't con my friends. I am also old enough to sense people trying to con me. Have a open heart, give people the benefit of the doubt, try to treat others nice, give with a cheerful heart.

Lol. nvm if u doesnt get what i meant. some ppl need to learn the hard way.:D

[anthonyKKW]

Lol. nvm if u doesnt get what i meant. some ppl need to learn the hard way.:D

Thanks. I realized you meant well.

[ALonelyPerson]

I will start a little story for u guys but on moderation still

[anthonyKKW]

It has been a while...about 2 years.

She has finally left me.

I have been seeing Ning for the past 1 year every time I go BKK, once every 1-2 months.

Last 2 weeks I visited BKK again and met with Ning. This time she behaved a little strangely..During sleeping time, I tried to kiss her as usual but she refused. I was a bit forceful and she started crying. I apologised and asked her why but she refused to tell me. I hugged her from the rear and slept till morning. Had breakfast her and I went to work as usual. As usual, she waited for me in hotel till I knock off from work. Went shopping and dinner. The next day we parted and I flew back home.

I realised now she has blocked me from FB and LINE. I have her hp and knows where she works...but I am hestitant to go find her because I respect her...

Good bye, dear friend.

[demonhunter]

It has been a while...about 2 years.

She has finally left me.

I have been seeing Ning for the past 1 year every time I go BKK, once every 1-2 months.

Last 2 weeks I visited BKK again and met with Ning. This time she behaved a little strangely..During sleeping time, I tried to kiss her as usual but she refused. I was a bit forceful and she started crying. I apologised and asked her why but she refused to tell me. I hugged her from the rear and slept till morning. Had breakfast her and I went to work as usual. As usual, she waited for me in hotel till I knock off from work. Went shopping and dinner. The next day we parted and I flew back home.

I realised now she has blocked me from FB and LINE. I have her hp and knows where she works...but I am hestitant to go find her because I respect her...

Good bye, dear friend.

That my friend , would be the best thing that could have happened for you .....

[fion.18]

It has been a while...about 2 years.

She has finally left me.

I realised now she has blocked me from FB and LINE. I have her hp and knows where she works...but I am hestitant to go find her because I respect her...

Good bye, dear friend.

Uh oh. I feel so heart broken for you. But it was good while it lasted rite?
Time to move on and be happier. Take care TS. ;)

[sammyboyfor]

It has been a while...about 2 years.

She has finally left me.



Once again, I have remind everyone that whores are for fucking not loving. :p

[ProjectSawadee]

lets face it, both of u are from 2 different world.
you can't have a long term relationship with her unless you don't really mind what she has done before or what so ever.
Take it as a passing phase in life lol.
I got my fair share of similar experience, looking back it was fun & you remember her smile etc etc but deep down inside you, you know in the end this relationship won't blossom :D

[zan888]

lets face it, both of u are from 2 different world.
you can't have a long term relationship with her unless you don't really mind what she has done before or what so ever.
Take it as a passing phase in life lol.
I got my fair share of similar experience, looking back it was fun & you remember her smile etc etc but deep down inside you, you know in the end this relationship won't blossom :D

This is true. I think many times in our lives, we have different people coming into our lives. Nothing is permanent. Even a gf or wife can bleed you dry. In fact wife can bleed you more dry than most WL lol. I suppose we just to control the generosity and not lose control of the emotions. Can pretend it is a bf/gf relationship but know at back of the mind it is always pretend? Easier said than done I suppose when the GFE is power.

[porscheclub]

Once again, I have remind everyone that whores are for fucking not loving. :p

+1 but what to do, men want that magical GFE so self-inflicted :o

[stillgottheblue]

There are many women in Thailand, don't go for whores.

[luciferpain]

true, but the one that hurt you not the same

[luciferpain]

all they want is money, i dont blame them i blame their government and ours:p

[anthonyKKW]

Thanks bros.

You guys have good heart.

[lorddrakez]

Must be really pretty siol.

[anthonyKKW]

pleasant and can connect. strong and independent character.

[MickJegger]

I'm actually surprised by how many members here posting up decent comments and suggestion, that I literally forgotten what forum I was at. LoL..

To OP, I think you are quite lucky. Women generally quite good at guessing when a guy is into them. In your case, I think it's quite obvious for her to know that you had/have a soft spot for her, yet she still did not con you (I suppose). She has her reason to keep you at a distance, maybe she has/had a soft spot for you too.

But generally speaking, usually it's the guy that is trying to block contact from a WL. Now that she had block you, maybe it's for your own good.

Hope you'll get over this soon. :)

To all samsters, you guys are pretty awesome. :)

[thaiboy88]

Bro Anthony,

I fell in love with a good-natured WL from nana before, She stay with me wait for me in my apartment while i go out, buy and cook for me also, told me her sad story about her parents not doing well and she was forced to go work, end up come BKK can't find a proper job to even feed her 3 meals a day and thus had to turn to the sex trade. She often cry at night, wanting to get out of the trade or various reasons like family and unable to have "real" friends.

I was so strong willed to be a "savior" but I decided that it had to stop somewhere before things got too deep, as I was paying for her meals and she sometimes stayed with me for days-weeks. So I decided to play the disappearing act as I could not provide for her anymore or give her anything in the future. After seeking advice in SBF forum I went MIA for 6 months.

6 mths later, I line-ed her to check in on her, she told me she cried everynight I was gone, but I told her the reason was for her own good.

Ended up during the 6 months I was gone she married another "savior"(or carrothead for some of us), saying it was because She wanted to get out of the trade and i was not there anymore for her. I asked about the guy, she was initially hesitant to talk about him, but later spoke about him. My jealously turned to respect for the guy who married her.

She kept asking for help in setting up a business as she wanted to turn over a new leaf, so I helped her with some F&B biz, but ended up she was just trying to get close to me, I reminded her of her commitments to her husband but her reply was "I don't love him but marry because he can help me(get out of the trade), now many problem in marriage and his mother don't like me, i want end with him." I was shocked by what she said but I don't blame her, as thai girls really have alot of problems and dilemmas to face.

Hope my story gives u a clearer idea of what u'll be facing if u got too involved.

The best quote given to me at my troubled times was "You can take the girl out of the bar but you cannot take the bar out of the girl."

[anthonyKKW]

Maybe its a blessing in disgust..

Thinking back, Ning never asked me for a single cent. Now she left me with good memories about her.

Good luck to her...hope she keep her own promise to stop sex trade at age of 26 (now she is 25) and go back home town to look for someone to marry.

[ahbutthen]

Three rules I abide by (same as taking taxi):
1. One visits the WL to fuck, not to fuck oneself (Do you pay the taxi driver so you can drive yourself?)
2. Everyone has problems, and I didn't pay the WL to impose her problem on me (Do you like it when the taxi driver tells you his problems? Dude, shut the fuck up)
3. I pay only market rate per fuck, nothing more nothing less (would you buy your taxi driver a gift for a smooth ride?)

[demonhuntergay]

Three rules I abide by (same as taking taxi):
1. One visits the WL to fuck, not to fuck oneself (Do you pay the taxi driver so you can drive yourself?)
2. Everyone has problems, and I didn't pay the WL to impose her problem on me (Do you like it when the taxi driver tells you his problems? Dude, shut the fuck up)
3. I pay only market rate per fuck, nothing more nothing less (would you buy your taxi driver a gift for a smooth ride?)

easy to say so but sometimes small head will overtake big head when u found the WL of yr dream. even worse when she start throwing all the KC tactics on u. u can run but yr mind will keep telling u to go back for her. :D

[demonhunter]

easy to say so but sometimes small head will overtake big head when u found the WL of yr dream. even worse when she start throwing all the KC tactics on u. u can run but yr mind will keep telling u to go back for her. :D

You speaking from experience right ?

Shame on you !!!

:mad:

:D

[demonhuntergay]

You speaking from experience right ?

Shame on you !!!

:mad:

:D

dun stalk me lah faggot. i speaking frm many experience i read and heard b4.
u can only share yr ass-banging experience wat. but in other section pls. :D

[demonhunter]

dun stalk me lah faggot. i speaking frm many experience i read and heard b4.
u can only share yr ass-banging experience wat. but in other section pls. :D

How do you know what you read and heard was true ? Unless it happened to you .

If you don't know if its the truth .... how can you give advise based on hearsay ?

Hearsay is Tiagong ! rofl

and when u tiagong you wil SIC !

Huat AH !
:eek:

[Captainoceania77]

Three rules I abide by (same as taking taxi):
1. One visits the WL to fuck, not to fuck oneself (Do you pay the taxi driver so you can drive yourself?)
2. Everyone has problems, and I didn't pay the WL to impose her problem on me (Do you like it when the taxi driver tells you his problems? Dude, shut the fuck up)
3. I pay only market rate per fuck, nothing more nothing less (would you buy your taxi driver a gift for a smooth ride?)

I sure give the taxi drivers extra tips or gifts.....

[flirt king]

dont believe and follow their problem ,their problem is silly and non end hole ,their mood is always different because many this girls got un balance psychosomatic and sympathetic becausethey take drugs ..chemical too much ,mood can happy and dont care after take money ,in FL 1 alot they do take .
careful and do check up for illness ...bros ..:( no all but most .