My good friend .... rest in peace!!!!!

[jas1800]

Sigh!!!! This is what gambling has causing his and his family life. Being a good friend of him for 10 years , I discover we human being can't really resist on gambling whether in football, casino, horse race and others. Real hope every sngaporean will keep away from gambling especially casino.....

If i can choose i rather use the money to have fun (HJ, BJ, FJ).

[Lebron]

U have my console dude. Find it quite a pity. Death might not is one only things to solve the prob. If he is willing to voice out, I believed his friends n church fellows definately willing to help.

[OkoBoko]

Sigh!!!! This is what gambling has causing his and his family life. Being a good friend of him for 10 years , I discover we human being can't really resist on gambling whether in football, casino, horse race and others. Real hope every sngaporean will keep away from gambling especially casino.....

If i can choose i rather use the money to have fun (HJ, BJ, FJ).


You mean u know the guy on paper tis two days? :eek: It was indeed a tragedy! Hope the whole family rest in peace.. :(

[JackieChan]

sorry to hear about ur fren, dude. if anything, it shows the extent to which gambling is already prevalent here...

btw it is better to tk this discussion in another forum lah, so depressing :(

[shoot]

Sigh!!!! This is what gambling has causing his and his family life. Being a good friend of him for 10 years , I discover we human being can't really resist on gambling whether in football, casino, horse race and others. Real hope every sngaporean will keep away from gambling especially casino.....

If i can choose i rather use the money to have fun (HJ, BJ, FJ).

Well, is all in ones mind. If u want to gamble in any kind, always tell yourself is for fun n excitement only. Set aside a capital sum if u want n if finish than stop.

I do bet in soccer n when I happen to b in Genting, will set a fix amount of money n play. If no luck will just walk out n go breath some fresh air. But say easy than done, not all ppl r like me who know how to control as n when the situation arise. There r no right or wrong for a casino, there's always 2 sides of a coin. If u treat it as an entertainment n fun everything will b fine. Just like some ppl like a high end KTV, some like cheap thrill LSB or TN so n so for. At the end of the day, is down to personal choices. To gamble for fun or b a hardcore gambler or simply don't step in, the choice is yours! Just some opinion of mine.

[milkman]

Sigh!!!! This is what gambling has causing his and his family life. Being a good friend of him for 10 years , I discover we human being can't really resist on gambling whether in football, casino, horse race and others. Real hope every sngaporean will keep away from gambling especially casino.....

If i can choose i rather use the money to have fun (HJ, BJ, FJ).
my thoughts are with you and his family.

take care.

[cbjuiceyumseng]

Sigh!!!! This is what gambling has causing his and his family life. Being a good friend of him for 10 years , I discover we human being can't really resist on gambling whether in football, casino, horse race and others. Real hope every sngaporean will keep away from gambling especially casino.....

If i can choose i rather use the money to have fun (HJ, BJ, FJ).


Sigh...why he so hiong? As in kill his wife and 2 kids? Ownself do = ownself die...why drag other ppl in? At first, i really pity him but now i really look down on him.... :rolleyes:

[PASSIONAETE04]

Sigh...why he so hiong? As in kill his wife and 2 kids? Ownself do = ownself die...why drag other ppl in? At first, i really pity him but now i really look down on him.... :rolleyes:


Bro, I totally agree with your point of view.
I do not know why, seems to get very upset over this suicide case.
I really feel Very Very sorry for the two kids and the wife, Why kill the family?
As a man, you made a mistake You better go and Face the music yourself, why pull others with you ?
Gamble is fun, But we must know our Limits, if you can only affort to lose 1K then limit yourself there, after lossing the 1K, Stop there then come back other time when cash is available ! Never borrow money to Gamble!
Not to curse a dead a Man, BUT is really a very Selfish act!
I believe the wife can still survive without him around, so why deprieve others chance to live !

Poor woman and kids.......hope that they will Rest in Peace !

[cowgum]

I beg to differ....I dont think he should rest in peace

He killed his wife and children (based on current reports)....borrowed from other people.....and now he committed suicide and left all the problems to others....I dont think it works that way....

Sorry loh...I dont think he should be in peace.....

[cbjuiceyumseng]

I beg to differ....I dont think he should rest in peace

He killed his wife and children (based on current reports)....borrowed from other people.....and now he committed suicide and left all the problems to others....I dont think it works that way....

Sorry loh...I dont think he should be in peace.....


YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

After he die, besides killing his loved ones he also saboed his friends who lend him money also!! His church pastors got chong 10k for him, 5 of them. Another good friend borrowed 50k to him.....cheebye loh....now he die his friend also die. :mad:

[shchen]

When I heard the news I was very upset about the whole incident. What kind of father and husband such a person can be. Want to gamble but cannot face the consequences. In this Ah long world if the debtor die, the debt is write off. By killing himself he can solve his problem; but no he is so selfish and want his whole family with him. It was indeed a tragedy for his wife and children but NO HIM! Hope his wife and children rest in peace..

[sadsea]

very sad case, especially to that poor lady and the two kids, rest in peace. as for that man, feel pity also but....,. hope all bros can manage problem well... god bless every one..

[siamcutey]

Sigh!!!! This is what gambling has causing his and his family life. Being a good friend of him for 10 years , I discover we human being can't really resist on gambling whether in football, casino, horse race and others. Real hope every sngaporean will keep away from gambling especially casino.....

If i can choose i rather use the money to have fun (HJ, BJ, FJ).

Don't blame gambling. Blame himself.

This matter is blown out of proportion because now singapore is having casino debate. There is nothing wrong with the casino or gambling, just that if you don't know how to control yourself, no one can help you also.

I can't resist seeing beautiful women, but do I go around raping and molesting them?

All are just reasons to justify actions.

SC

[devilnight69]

Sigh!!!! This is what gambling has causing his and his family life. Being a good friend of him for 10 years , I discover we human being can't really resist on gambling whether in football, casino, horse race and others. Real hope every sngaporean will keep away from gambling especially casino.....

If i can choose i rather use the money to have fun (HJ, BJ, FJ).



gambling distroy a family? you should ask yourself some questions.

how can he have so much money on gambling?

becoz of gambling he ended his life?

once he gamble away all his life saving, he started to borrow from loanshark but luck is not on his side and keep losing. The money he own to the loanshark is getting more and more (he own many loanshark $$$). You should know best how the loanshark trying to get their money back.

Conclusion is that loanshark is the culpit that ended a person life, gambling doesn't becoz once he/she loses all their money, they will stop gambling. Only the stupid loanshark lend them $$$ to get them back into the gambling table. Therefore i feel that no hate building a CASINO in Singapore and we should condenm all loanshark in singapore by giving them death sentence when kana catch.

[sadsea]

gambling distroy a family? you should ask yourself some questions.

how can he have so much money on gambling?

becoz of gambling he ended his life?

once he gamble away all his life saving, he started to borrow from loanshark but luck is not on his side and keep losing. The money he own to the loanshark is getting more and more (he own many loanshark $$$). You should know best how the loanshark trying to get their money back.

Conclusion is that loanshark is the culpit that ended a person life, gambling doesn't becoz once he/she loses all their money, they will stop gambling. Only the stupid loanshark lend them $$$ to get them back into the gambling table. Therefore i feel that no hate building a CASINO in Singapore and we should condenm all loanshark in singapore by giving them death sentence when kana catch.

i totally disagreed with u, what got to do with the loanshark? did the loanshark force them to loan money from them? those fellow should know the way loadshark retrieve their money if u unable to return in time. if not happy then go borrow from bank, see how 'nice' a bank retrieve money from u. bank and fianical film are just licence loanshark, no different. in this word, there is no such things as "force", if ur head not so big don't wear such a big hat, if really want to wear big hat, make ur head big first, if cannot, just wear a hat which fit ur head. is a matter of "control" urself. don't put blame to other people. hope no hard feeling, nice day.

[TheHappyMondays]

Sigh!!!! This is what gambling has causing his and his family life. Being a good friend of him for 10 years , I discover we human being can't really resist on gambling whether in football, casino, horse race and others. Real hope every sngaporean will keep away from gambling especially casino.....

If i can choose i rather use the money to have fun (HJ, BJ, FJ).

Poor things, they are. RIP, bro! Hope you could get over him, your good friend! RIP! :(

[devilnight69]

i totally disagreed with u, what got to do with the loanshark? did the loanshark force them to loan money from them?


So u so sure that nothing to do with "Ah long", u can ask 10 person that borrow $$$ from ah long, is their life is good or bad, is their life being theaten everyday, from where they live to where they work and why they keep hiding to avoid them, shifting from house to house.

Yup u r right that Ah long doesn't force anyone to borrow $$ from them but why they exist in the first place? if a person really need $$$, as u say they can get a loan from bank but do the bank allow u borrow money for gamble? if the bank really loan them $$$ to gamble, the most the person will file for bankrupcy if he can't pay up the loan unlike ah long. if the bank don't loan u and no ah long exist, so do u think that they have the money to gamble?

Yup u r right again, self control but how many of them know how to self control? is not a one or two week thing, it take alot of time, courage and determination to overcome it and most importantly is family support.

[Andy1122]

I'm sorry for that poor fella, but it dosen't change the fact that what brought about his downfall (and his family's) is his inability to control himself. There's a chinese saying 羊毛出在羊身上。Literally it means that sheep's wool is definitely found on a sheep's body. In actual terms, it is really saying that every problems we encounter stem from our own shortcomings. I do not mean to say loansharks are an honourable bunch. In fact I think of them as parasites thriving on living blood of the desperate people. But it does not mean they have a part to play in the death of the above-mentioned subject. They merely act as a catalyst in the development of a tragedy. No honest person will feel good having an unrepayed loan. The debt will forever haunt a person, no matter how subtle it is, driving a person to settle it in any possible way. Bear in mind, gambling being one of the vices, creates a vicious cycle, ie. the more you lose, the more you'll stake in the next round hoping to recoup the losses; the more you win the more you'll stake in hope for another windfall. In plain view, this is a tragedy that results from lack of self control. In broader terms, it is a tragedy caused by greed. Indulging in any of the vices, is one matter. Not knowing one's limit and tried to push the boundaries is another. I believe one's attitude in enjoying, cheonging, etc is to take it easy and not place paramount importance in what is gain from it. Lao Tzu said :" One will pay heavily on one's indulgence and suffer great from one's possessiveness." 甚爱必大费， 多藏必厚亡。The bible also mentioned a verse "where your treasure is, there your heart will be too" it then carry to describing placing your heart in earthly things that rots the treasures or something...can't remember. In other words, be contended.
雁渡寒潭，雁过而潭不留影。
风来疏竹，风去而竹不留声。
故君子事来心始现；事过心随空。
The cold swamp never registers the sight of a passing flight of wild goose.
The sound of a passing breeze never lingers in a bamboo forest.
Therefore a gentleman only shows his heart when it needs be, and is without prejudice or desire when the moment is passed.

[Spursgetz]

So u so sure that nothing to do with "Ah long", u can ask 10 person that borrow $$$ from ah long, is their life is good or bad, is their life being theaten everyday, from where they live to where they work and why they keep hiding to avoid them, shifting from house to house.

Yup u r right that Ah long doesn't force anyone to borrow $$ from them but why they exist in the first place? .


bro..why ah long exist in the 1st place coz there's a demand for it. Not anyone can just walked into the bank and get a loan. Unless you are related to LKY. In fact, coz there a demand for pte loan thus there's ah long.

I knew from a friend that some small provision shops/biz do get small loan from ah long. All they do is let say, loan 1K, and they will pay the interest $200 roughly everyweek or so and they will only clear the loan when they are able to one time paid up 1.2K.

This may sound stupid to us but to these pple who borrow, they will be able to get some quick cash to tide over a period of difficult time, almost hassle free, which no bank will be able to provide such service.

understand these are the clients that the Ah long love the most as they are normally very prompt in their payment, and normally they took less than a mth to clear the loan. Also, they can't hide far since they have shop/biz to run

For the tampines incident, that man is foolish to loan from Ah Long to gamble/clear gambling debt. In fact, one should not gamble if one do not have extra $$ to lose.

Btw, this also apply to bonking/KTV/HC hor. Bro here, no money dun go, never loan $$ to go for this kind of activities. Another growing trend is interest free installment travel holiday package.

I do have friends who did that and I'm ok with it if one have the means to pay, but just want to utilise the interests free installment. But I do heard of pple who got no $$ to go more expensive destination, opted for this interests free installment option. This is pretty risky as one might fall sick, get retrench, etc and by then, where to get $$ to pay?

just my 2 cent worth lah.

[urban]

This topic is posted in the wrong forum. :(

[maituleow]

This topic is posted in the wrong forum. :(

To the thread starter, IF you treat him as a good friend,please RESPECT him and let him rest in peace. Futhermore,its also in the wrong Forum. Even if he is a samster, dun stir up the Dead. We all feel sympathy for him and family.
If he is your good friend where were you in his moment of Need.
He's a Friend in Need, you are really a Friend indeed!!!
Stop this shit and end this thread.

[rahl]

To be honest I cant believe the Straits Times portraying him as a great family man and friend. Something is wrong here. A great family man who nonetheless puts the family at risk by all the reckless gambling?

One point about the suicide-homicide thing. Im not defending his action at all but just to present his point of view. I have done research on suicides before. Their view is that by killing themselves only, they leave the pain to the remaining family members (how to leave on without breadwinner and father?). By killing themselves and the family, they will in fact spare the family the agony of life.

[KumLan]

He's a Friend in Need, you are really a Friend indeed!!!


Well said. AMEN

[darkness]

my condolences.. may ur friend and his family rest in peace.. :cool:

[pig40]

I could understand when a person is at his wits end. Me too contemplating suicide because of credit card debts but got no guts. now working as a security guard trying to repay all my debts but could not see light at the end of tunnel. counting on TOTO every Monday and Thursday. feeling marginalised.

[MelonEater]

To the thread starter, IF you treat him as a good friend,please RESPECT him and let him rest in peace. Futhermore,its also in the wrong Forum. Even if he is a samster, dun stir up the Dead. We all feel sympathy for him and family.
If he is your good friend where were you in his moment of Need.
He's a Friend in Need, you are really a Friend indeed!!!
Stop this shit and end this thread.

Very well said. I appeal to the BOSS to delete this thread. To the thread starter, you shouldn't have pay your respect in the forum as you know people will start to voice their opinion(good and bad). Doesn't it bring more misery to the people who are related to him if they are reading this?

May I ask you, how do you feel now as his good friend as you are reading the comments here?

[tokugawa]

gambling distroy a family? you should ask yourself some questions.

how can he have so much money on gambling?

becoz of gambling he ended his life?

once he gamble away all his life saving, he started to borrow from loanshark but luck is not on his side and keep losing. The money he own to the loanshark is getting more and more (he own many loanshark $$$). You should know best how the loanshark trying to get their money back.

Conclusion is that loanshark is the culpit that ended a person life, gambling doesn't becoz once he/she loses all their money, they will stop gambling. Only the stupid loanshark lend them $$$ to get them back into the gambling table. Therefore i feel that no hate building a CASINO in Singapore and we should condenm all loanshark in singapore by giving them death sentence when kana catch.


First of all. I think the thread starter post in the wrong forum. This is for Health Centre and KTV lounge Tangos forum.
Yes I do sympathy to the family and not the man.
As we all know that loan shark exist very very long time ago and mutual exclusive with gambling. I think everyone in this forum also must agree with me that gambling is a tradition in our chinese roots. Everywhere you go , there got chinese sure got gambling one.Gambling during Chinese New Year, gambling during the wake of the deceased, gambling everyday through the Singapore pools and etc..
We cannot blame all on the loanshark. Loanshark also is human like you and me also have family to support and need to eat. Loanshark is just another job. If everyone also borrow money then don't pay, I think at the end the loan shark himself going to suicide already.
It is general knowledge that borrow from loan shark need to pay a hefty interest. Loanshark so popular because it is easy money. Just photocopy your ID and give your address then you have the money you want. If so easy borrow from the bank, then loanshark will not exist at all. If you say loanshark is culprit then why not say the bank is culprit ? Every year also profits in millions.

My personal opinion is that the Casino must build in Singapore. No matter what, the peoples have their way to gamble such as go to Malaysia or Indonesia.If all the money flow out from Singapore, why not let the money keep back in Singapore? Besides that,Singapore goverment can control the Casino and limit the person can gamble according to his monthly salary.

[KumLan]

trying to repay all my debts but could not see light at the end of tunnel. counting on TOTO every Monday and Thursday. feeling marginalised.

bro Pig40, I also same situation and still paying like No tomorrow.Probably used too much credit card cash advances to cheong. Now downgrade to Tui Nas only. An advice for you, dun count on TOTO or 4D, use the money to pay your card bills a little bit more each month.same for Cigarettes or liquor cut down its good for your health also..but once in a while let your little brother enjoy...also good for your health..

I am purposely diverting the discussion away from the original thread and hope that it ends soon.

[Spursgetz]

bro Pig40, I also same situation and still paying like No tomorrow.Probably used too much credit card cash advances to cheong. Now downgrade to Tui Nas only. .

bro, mi abit kpo here. Since $$ so tight, dun u think tuina alsonot worth it??? Might as well go for Cat 40. Tuina plus hj will easily cost you $60-$80, unless you so regular there, and charming that the lady give you free. :D

[KumLan]

bro, mi abit kpo here. Since $$ so tight, dun u think tuina alsonot worth it??? Might as well go for Cat 40. Tuina plus hj will easily cost you $60-$80, unless you so regular there, and charming that the lady give you free. :D

bro, agree with you but my little brother sometimes need his fix leh??No matter how charming Yandao or with 9iinch prick no lady will give free one,
girlfriends,wife,old flame, junkies excluded..

[beachboii]

my deepest condolences ....Please delete this thread...Life move on...