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1sgf
06-12-2011, 06:35 PM
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1sgf
06-12-2011, 08:56 PM
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1sgf
07-12-2011, 09:31 AM
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Language Spoken : English & Thai

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1sgf
07-12-2011, 12:54 PM
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Language Spoken : English & Thai

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1sgf
07-12-2011, 03:26 PM
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Language Spoken : English & Thai

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1sgf
07-12-2011, 05:19 PM
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Weight: 45
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Language Spoken : English & Thai

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1sgf
07-12-2011, 07:28 PM
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Age : 19 year old
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Weight: 45
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Language Spoken : English & Thai

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1sgf
07-12-2011, 09:41 PM
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Age : 19 year old
Height : 160
Weight: 45
Vital Stats : 34B-23-35
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Language Spoken : English & Thai

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Raddy69
07-12-2011, 09:52 PM
When I saw the photo of Naomi and was tempted with her pretty face so secure a slot to meet her.

Here is my FR summary on her :

Looks: 7 /10 ( best I have seem for a long while )

Body: 8 /10 (slim body, skin silky smooth, have a very nice shape and firm butt for doggy)

Boobs: 8.0/10 ( nicely shaped hungry to suck it)

Bathroom Action: 7 /10 (lots of kissing, rubbing and bbbj )

Catbath: 8/10 (covered ear, neck, nip, groin area and whole body)

Frenching: 8/10 (very good in her tongue skill and fierce)

BBBJ: 9 /10 (wet and good slurp sound effect, suction just nice, including both slow and fast motions and lasted very long)

Pussy: 7 /10 (nice pussy hair, tight and wet!)

FJ: 9/10 (tried front and back cowgirl, missionary and doggy. I like doggy the most as she has a nice butt to fuck as she moaned passionately and talked dirty in this position)

A very good session indeed!

1sgf
07-12-2011, 11:35 PM
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Age : 19 year old
Height : 160
Weight: 45
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Language Spoken : English & Thai

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1sgf
08-12-2011, 09:10 AM
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Weight: 45
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Language Spoken : English & Thai

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1sgf
08-12-2011, 11:46 AM
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Weight: 45
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Language Spoken : English & Thai

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1sgf
08-12-2011, 03:43 PM
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1sgf
08-12-2011, 06:43 PM
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Age : 19 year old
Height : 160
Weight: 45
Vital Stats : 34B-23-35
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Language Spoken : English & Thai

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1sgf
08-12-2011, 08:58 PM
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Age : 19 year old
Height : 160
Weight: 45
Vital Stats : 34B-23-35
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Language Spoken : English & Thai

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VicChai
09-12-2011, 04:50 PM
FR on Noami

Reach the hotel, got the reply sms rm XXX, enjoy! Proceed to the room, ready to taste her . 1st impression...to be honest, not really my type , but as the session goes on found her to be more & more prettier & friendly .Chat for awhile and then she help to undress me as we proceed to shower.

Cleaning was focus on little bro and then she kneel down to give bbbj. She will lick your balls ..deepthroat..I must say its quite a good bbbj.Finish shower and Main course started with by another excellent bbbj. Did a few positions and 1st shot off in missionary. She gave me a massage as we continue to TCSS while reloading for 2nd round. More or less like 1st round ,was pumping her in standing doggie when her mobile rang to signal the remaining time. well..pump her harder and faster and managed to shoot off my 2nd load before time's up.


Looks: ok for me (maybe other bros will like)
body: i would prefer more petite type. But think she has a good figure
bbbj: very good. Non stop licking and sucking
FJ: think she enjoy sex too..moans alot..this girl can ride! willing to do whatever position u request
communications: chatty (80% thai)..so not sure if her english is ok anot
overall : seriously very good service..I would consider it money well spent.
RTF: unlikely too many gals ard.

1sgf
11-12-2011, 11:12 AM
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Age : 19 year old
Height : 160
Weight: 45
Vital Stats : 34B-23-35
Service : Bath / Oil massage / Hand job / Cim / Bbbj / Cob / Fj
Language Spoken : English & Thai

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Zelrous
11-12-2011, 11:30 AM
All I can say is that Noami is someone who is caring , patient , hardworking and cheerful all rolled into one .

She has normal smooth skin texture , nice face, short and really looks very close to my ex- gal. ...action commence after our shower and i did all that i need on her and she enjoyed very much. I also did a good massage on her tat she almost doze off...she like it. As I am a One shot man....i didnt go any further, just want to hug her and rest beside me. Times up...reality is cruel...and hope to see her again when times permit.

My FR for Noami
FACE: 8/10 ( her looks like my ex-gf )
BOOBS: 7/10 ( quite simply delicious )
BODY: 8/10 ( smooth kin and almost a perfect body)
BBBJ: 8/10 (she took my junior all of it into her mouth :eek: )
FJ: 9.5/10 (Fantastic...i did the most works and she really enjoys)
Painting/Frenching: 9.5/10 ( I got all of it....what i did with my ex-gal)
GFE: 10/10 (WOW)
RTF: Sure if i have the time.Value for money.

1sgf
11-12-2011, 03:01 PM
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Age : 19 year old
Height : 160
Weight: 45
Vital Stats : 34B-23-35
Service : Bath / Oil massage / Hand job / Cim / Bbbj / Cob / Fj
Language Spoken : English & Thai

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1sgf
11-12-2011, 06:18 PM
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Age : 19 year old
Height : 160
Weight: 45
Vital Stats : 34B-23-35
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Language Spoken : English & Thai

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1sgf
12-12-2011, 09:17 AM
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Age : 19 year old
Height : 160
Weight: 45
Vital Stats : 34B-23-35
Service : Bath / Oil massage / Hand job / Cim / Bbbj / Cob / Fj
Language Spoken : English & Thai

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1sgf
12-12-2011, 02:40 PM
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Age : 19 year old
Height : 160
Weight: 45
Vital Stats : 34B-23-35
Service : Bath / Oil massage / Hand job / Cim / Bbbj / Cob / Fj
Language Spoken : English & Thai

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1sgf
12-12-2011, 10:12 PM
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Age : 19 year old
Height : 160
Weight: 45
Vital Stats : 34B-23-35
Service : Bath / Oil massage / Hand job / Cim / Bbbj / Cob / Fj
Language Spoken : English & Thai

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MrBrat
13-12-2011, 09:18 AM
Firstly, her photos don't do her justice. She definitely looks better in person, especially to guys that love big eye girls.

On arrival, was shocked at how much better she looked in person. I would dare say pretty and would catch my eye easily on the street. Went on to assess the body. Nice boobs, decent size... I not a boob person but these should be about b i think. Super small waist....and a nice rounded booty...

Was suppose to shower, but the first shot came quite unexpected. We were undressing and ready to head to the shower, but got a little too close to each other. I guess got mutual electric current, next thing we were locked in arms and lips like long lost super horny lovers. Really really steamy and passionate. Her BBBJ was good and decent, but I don't succumb to BBBJ so easily. I then proceeded to eat her pussy, which i think had her pretty high cos I think she might have came a few times. (Maybe she faking, but the way her body move.... hard to say.) Got her so fired up that went i stopped, she quickly wanted to cap me and ride me. Either she was really enjoying herself or she was good at faking, whichever it got me pretty high and crazy. So kept pumping her non-stop in a few positions, some of which never try before... When I finally fired off, we both collapse sweating and panting like crazy. Sometimes I think i should get a big discount for servicing the girls.... lol....

I guess the first crazy sex-session got her out of her shell as she was more alot more friendly and chatty. We went on to shower, talk alot.... then lie on the bed to recover. Talk until suddenly, we were at it again. Same thing... crazy long lost horny lovers sex.

In the end, I got so tired...MY legs were all wobbly... brain not thinking... that I left almost 30mins earlier...lol.... but truly satisfied and contended .

Looks: 8.5/10 (Really really better in person)
Body: 8/10
BBBJ: 8/10 (Nice and soothing)
GFE: 9/10 (Maybe she and me get along well together )
FJ: 9.5/10 (Flexible and crazy... her high face just made it better.)

1sgf
13-12-2011, 09:27 AM
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Age : 19 year old
Height : 160
Weight: 45
Vital Stats : 34B-23-35
Service : Bath / Oil massage / Hand job / Cim / Bbbj / Cob / Fj
Language Spoken : English & Thai

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1sgf
13-12-2011, 01:17 PM
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Age : 19 year old
Height : 160
Weight: 45
Vital Stats : 34B-23-35
Service : Bath / Oil massage / Hand job / Cim / Bbbj / Cob / Fj
Language Spoken : English & Thai

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1sgf
13-12-2011, 03:16 PM
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Age : 19 year old
Height : 160
Weight: 45
Vital Stats : 34B-23-35
Service : Bath / Oil massage / Hand job / Cim / Bbbj / Cob / Fj
Language Spoken : English & Thai

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1sgf
13-12-2011, 06:31 PM
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Age : 19 year old
Height : 160
Weight: 45
Vital Stats : 34B-23-35
Service : Bath / Oil massage / Hand job / Cim / Bbbj / Cob / Fj
Language Spoken : English & Thai

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1sgf
13-12-2011, 08:59 PM
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Age : 19 year old
Height : 160
Weight: 45
Vital Stats : 34B-23-35
Service : Bath / Oil massage / Hand job / Cim / Bbbj / Cob / Fj
Language Spoken : English & Thai

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1sgf
14-12-2011, 09:23 AM
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Age : 19 year old
Height : 160
Weight: 45
Vital Stats : 34B-23-35
Service : Bath / Oil massage / Hand job / Cim / Bbbj / Cob / Fj
Language Spoken : English & Thai

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1sgf
14-12-2011, 01:13 PM
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Age : 19 year old
Height : 160
Weight: 45
Vital Stats : 34B-23-35
Service : Bath / Oil massage / Hand job / Cim / Bbbj / Cob / Fj
Language Spoken : English & Thai

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1sgf
14-12-2011, 03:13 PM
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Age : 19 year old
Height : 160
Weight: 45
Vital Stats : 34B-23-35
Service : Bath / Oil massage / Hand job / Cim / Bbbj / Cob / Fj
Language Spoken : English & Thai

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1sgf
14-12-2011, 06:51 PM
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Age : 19 year old
Height : 160
Weight: 45
Vital Stats : 34B-23-35
Service : Bath / Oil massage / Hand job / Cim / Bbbj / Cob / Fj
Language Spoken : English & Thai

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1sgf
15-12-2011, 11:24 AM
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Age : 19 year old
Height : 160
Weight: 45
Vital Stats : 34B-23-35
Service : Bath / Oil massage / Hand job / Cim / Bbbj / Cob / Fj
Language Spoken : English & Thai

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1sgf
15-12-2011, 01:16 PM
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Age : 19 year old
Height : 160
Weight: 45
Vital Stats : 34B-23-35
Service : Bath / Oil massage / Hand job / Cim / Bbbj / Cob / Fj
Language Spoken : English & Thai

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1sgf
15-12-2011, 03:28 PM
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Age : 19 year old
Height : 160
Weight: 45
Vital Stats : 34B-23-35
Service : Bath / Oil massage / Hand job / Cim / Bbbj / Cob / Fj
Language Spoken : English & Thai

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huss143enu
15-12-2011, 04:07 PM
She meets my type at first and took a closer look at her I found her more and more attractive than the picture as time goes on .

When I went in she was very friendly, always smiling with a gal next door look. Her BBBJ was good, cat bath and my painting job took a long time and she loves it.

Started FJ on missionary first and got a full view of her face and body. Boobs are just right and handful to hold and her moans was sexy and soft, just nice when I was on the missionary I went down and kiss her neck. She bites me on the ear and softly which arouse me even more.

It was so good, I change to doggy style and it was even better, she jerk off a few times which makes me wonder how many time have she cums. Overall it was an enjoyable session.

My summary on Naomi:
age abt early 20’s
looks 7/10
body 8/10 ( slim, boobs was an handful and big, B cup)
bbbj 7.5/20 (hard working and good suction)
FJ 8/10 (wild and hot)
frenching 9/10 (got gf feeling)

Cheers !

1sgf
16-12-2011, 10:16 AM
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Age : 19 year old
Height : 160
Weight: 45
Vital Stats : 34B-23-35
Service : Bath / Oil massage / Hand job / Cim / Bbbj / Cob / Fj
Language Spoken : English & Thai

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1sgf
16-12-2011, 12:18 PM
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Age : 19 year old
Height : 160
Weight: 45
Vital Stats : 34B-23-35
Service : Bath / Oil massage / Hand job / Cim / Bbbj / Cob / Fj
Language Spoken : English & Thai

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1sgf
16-12-2011, 03:02 PM
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Age : 19 year old
Height : 160
Weight: 45
Vital Stats : 34B-23-35
Service : Bath / Oil massage / Hand job / Cim / Bbbj / Cob / Fj
Language Spoken : English & Thai

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1sgf
17-12-2011, 10:04 AM
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Age : 19 year old
Height : 160
Weight: 45
Vital Stats : 34B-23-35
Service : Bath / Oil massage / Hand job / Cim / Bbbj / Cob / Fj
Language Spoken : English & Thai

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1sgf
17-12-2011, 01:21 PM
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Age : 19 year old
Height : 160
Weight: 45
Vital Stats : 34B-23-35
Service : Bath / Oil massage / Hand job / Cim / Bbbj / Cob / Fj
Language Spoken : English & Thai

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Igor74
17-12-2011, 02:30 PM
I managed to get a morning session with the wonderful Naomi .

Usual start to proceedings with a warm welcome from a beauty in pink/black nightie, chatted a while and then headed for the bath. She had me hard in no time at all just by staring at her breasts. We headed for the bedroom. not to waste time

Her bbbj was fabulous, with deep throat and vigourous shafting of my cock with her mouth, begged her to stop as I wanted to sample other delights from her

I moved onto her tits and with some gentle teasing and nibbling of her nipples had her moaning softly, some clitoral stimulation did the trick and she moaned in esctacy!!!

She capped and ready for the first assault on her pussy, gently guided me in and after missionary, cowgirl and doggie asked to CIM which she duly obliged.

Cleaned up and rested for a while, before round 2.

She is still young, still very fresh. Bros, do take good care of her .


Overall rated as follows:

Looks 8/10
Body 9/10
Boobs 8.5 /10 her boobs are a sight to be hold
bbbj 7/10 great technique
FJ 9/10 wonderfully tight
GFE 9.5 /10 very accomodating
Overall an excellent session with this lovely girl.

1sgf
17-12-2011, 03:22 PM
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Age : 19 year old
Height : 160
Weight: 45
Vital Stats : 34B-23-35
Service : Bath / Oil massage / Hand job / Cim / Bbbj / Cob / Fj
Language Spoken : English & Thai

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1sgf
18-12-2011, 10:30 AM
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Age : 19 year old
Height : 160
Weight: 45
Vital Stats : 34B-23-35
Service : Bath / Oil massage / Hand job / Cim / Bbbj / Cob / Fj
Language Spoken : English & Thai

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1sgf
18-12-2011, 02:42 PM
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Age : 19 year old
Height : 160
Weight: 45
Vital Stats : 34B-23-35
Service : Bath / Oil massage / Hand job / Cim / Bbbj / Cob / Fj
Language Spoken : English & Thai

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1sgf
18-12-2011, 08:19 PM
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Age : 19 year old
Height : 160
Weight: 45
Vital Stats : 34B-23-35
Service : Bath / Oil massage / Hand job / Cim / Bbbj / Cob / Fj
Language Spoken : English & Thai

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borges
19-12-2011, 09:29 AM
Below is the report Naomi:

~Assets
Face: 8/10 (Natural beauty )
Figure: 7.5/10
Height : 160 cm slightly taller than me
Boobs: B cup
(*The shape of her pair of boobs and nipples is great *)
Skin: Normal thai skin .

~Service:
BBBJ: 8.5/10
French Kiss: 8/10 (Super shiok )
FJ: 9/10 ( most enjoyable for me )
Attitude: 9.5/10
GFE: 8.9 /10
Overall: 9 /10
RTF: Must find some vit m soon

1sgf
19-12-2011, 09:30 AM
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Age : 19 year old
Height : 160
Weight: 45
Vital Stats : 34B-23-35
Service : Bath / Oil massage / Hand job / Cim / Bbbj / Cob / Fj
Language Spoken : English & Thai

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1sgf
19-12-2011, 12:48 PM
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Age : 19 year old
Height : 160
Weight: 45
Vital Stats : 34B-23-35
Service : Bath / Oil massage / Hand job / Cim / Bbbj / Cob / Fj
Language Spoken : English & Thai

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1sgf
19-12-2011, 02:28 PM
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Age : 19 year old
Height : 160
Weight: 45
Vital Stats : 34B-23-35
Service : Bath / Oil massage / Hand job / Cim / Bbbj / Cob / Fj
Language Spoken : English & Thai

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1sgf
19-12-2011, 04:05 PM
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Age : 19 year old
Height : 160
Weight: 45
Vital Stats : 34B-23-35
Service : Bath / Oil massage / Hand job / Cim / Bbbj / Cob / Fj
Language Spoken : English & Thai

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1sgf
19-12-2011, 07:02 PM
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Age : 19 year old
Height : 160
Weight: 45
Vital Stats : 34B-23-35
Service : Bath / Oil massage / Hand job / Cim / Bbbj / Cob / Fj
Language Spoken : English & Thai

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