I got cheated of my feelings by a PRC gal.

[steinbecksg]

Hi all Samsters.

I'm 31 this year and the gal is 25. I know everyone has a limited attention span. So I will provide the most pertinent points in my story. She is not a whore but working in a factory in Singapore. The gal and I were very close, very loving, to the extent that we were planning marriage. And yes, we had had sex many times.

Then one day, she deleted her Facebook profile and changed her hp no. I couldn't reach her. I tried messaging her via QQ but she declined my friend requests countless of times. These signs were the most obvious that she did not love me as much as she claimed to be. I mean, would a gal suddenly cut off all contact with you when she is extremely in love with you? Even if there is any disagreement, a gal who has genuine feelings for you would want to sit down and have a good talk, not go MIA!

She showed me pics of her hometown, her father, herself back in China and told me the things I had to do in order to marry her. She said I need to bring my parents to China to see her parents and hold a banquet there. As you guys, can see we were very serious.

I want to continue writing about other things relating to this con job but I am too depressed to continue. Even though I know she is conning me through careful analysis of the whole saga, I still wish I am wrong. I still wish she is true to me like I am true to her... Will continue soon.

[bbqchiz]

No offense, but pls wake up bro. they are afterall PRC! there are many decent woman out there...

Cheer up dudes

PRC are meant to be fuck-ed only =)

[Toyota Honda]

Have you given her any sum of money prior to her mia?

[TheGreatOne]

did you in one way or another pass her money on occasion(s).

[old_yet_horny]

Er.. TS,


If its sex related please acrry on telling us your sexperience with her..:D

If its just BGR kiond of stuffs... think u post in other section..aka Matters of the Heart..:)

Anyway, hope you recover fast and move on with your next relationship..;)

[teebs_darklord]

Wierd...Last year in 2010 you started a post on 25/8/2010 where you said you never had a gf...:D

average looking and never had gfs

http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?p=5150434#post5150434

And in 14/8/2010 you started another post My experience with the only PRC FL & female in my life

http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=200648

So basically speaking in the 7 months where you never had a gf before and was 29 years old, you are now 31 and you have a factory worker gf whom you love very much and are already planning to marry.

Somehow I find that hard to believe that you can fall so much in love with any gal and want to marry her after knowing her for less than 7 months. :D

Also I find it hard to believe that you had never added her QQ number when you were together and ONLY now you are trying to add her as a friend?

[jonrai]

Bro, my advice is not to engage with PRC gals that work here, most of them are looking for wealth. Cheated by them is good for you (that where you learn to be smart next time)....:)

[VanGogh]

And in 14/8/2010 you started another post My experience with the only PRC FL & female in my life

http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=200648



Bro, TS is a disaster in the waiting, RTF a FL many times and want to give her 5k loan...

This Factory worker he want to get married with, IMHO at least made off with 50k... ... (if TS have the kind of money)

[steinbecksg]

hey guys thanks for replying. No I didn't hand her any money prior to her disappearing act but she did ask me to buy her a laptop. I did not accede to her request. We knew each other for only 6 months. I guess for these 6 months she was nurturing me, to get me really hooked onto her before asking for $ or material stuff.

to old but horny, i wanted to post in "Matters of the Heart" but i thought that was for commercial bonks gone wrong.

this girl wears glasses and looks decent. It is hard to fathom why she is so deceitful. I really love her, why don't she get into a love relationship with me? Why resort to cheating me? I learnt from her the tricks gals use to hook men. For example, she took pics of us together with her camera, calling lao gong and pressed her body intimately towards me. During the whole process, she was very joyous and bubbly. Guys, visualise this scene. How many of you can resist this charm offensive?

I learnt that it is very easy for a gal deceive guys through some simple play-acting. When I was ill, she passed to me her China medicines. When I told her I got bullied at work she actually seemed worked up. When she was at my home, she folded my clothes for me without my asking. I loved her so much I did not allow her to do housework chores. I did them on my own.

Then once, after a quarrel, she cried loudly at my doorstep.

I think she does have some genuine feelings for me but these are ranked 2nd. Her 1st priority is to con me. I mean, humans being humans, even if a gal wants to con you, during the process she might develop some real feelings for you. That is only natural. But at the end of the day, her primary motive still comes first.

I want to share my experience with you guys. Hope you all can learn something from my bad experience. If you guys wanna go for PRC gals, I suggest looking for those who have the capability to get citizenship on their own merit. These girls are less unlikely to con you as compared to those who had to get a Singaporean husband to land a Singaporean citizenship.

[steinbecksg]

eh bro.. thanks for reply, she deleted my QQ no from her contact list. And yes within 6-7months I am madly in love with her and want to marry her.

I got to know her soon after posting the "average looking and no gf" thread.

As for the PRC FL, it occurred in 2007.

my birthday is in august, so strictly speaking i am still 30 now

Call me stupid!

[sgiceboy]

move on la

[Serath]

Good that you did not give her any money or buy her anything, damage reduced.

[Brazilian]

They acting too much.

[newyorker88]

Rule Number 1: Dont go for PRC, unless she is well educated here. We are worlds apart, if she comes from PRC, educated there. If you have sex with her, does not mean she loves you only. back there, the relatives see anyone who gone overseas must be rich,when they come back, or at least hook up a rich BF....

Rule number 2: Always go to rule number 1.

[TheGreatOne]

TS, i suggest you go give yourself a good treat for not falling victim to her con job.

It's better now that she gave you up on her own and that you have not wasted any money.

Or you want to grief only after kena conned of money meh?

Console yourself, at least you managed to keep your money.

[teebs_darklord]

eh bro.. thanks for reply, she deleted my QQ no from her contact list. And yes within 6-7months I am madly in love with her and want to marry her.

I got to know her soon after posting the "average looking and no gf" thread.

As for the PRC FL, it occurred in 2007.

my birthday is in august, so strictly speaking i am still 30 now

Call me stupid!

Ok, since you want to called stupid, you are STUPID.

So Bro STUPID,

You know a gal for barely 6-7 months and you think you know her so well that you want to marry her? Frankly speaking, in these 6-7 months, what have you given her? In her opinion, nothing. You didn't give her any money, didn't buy any presents for her, just fuck her for free right?

And you said that she conned you. She conned you of what? Your feelings? Bro Stupid, I will tell you that past feelings are worthless once a relationship is over. Just thank your lucky stars that you didn't give her any money and managed to fuck her for free during these 6-7 months.

Just move on with you life. Why KPKB when a relationship is over. I believe you should have better things to do with your life.

[steinbecksg]

I paid for her meals, taxi fares, and other stuff. I also bought her a bag. I am not being stingy, i am being cautious because I want a genuine relationship when money comes into the picture the relationship is screwed.

don't talk about free fucks. I am not after these. Don't talk about this from a commercial sex angle ok bro. What i want is a true and honest romance and marriage. I want to marry her. I really do.

[hardcoremayhem]

I mean, would a gal suddenly cut off all contact with you when she is extremely in love with you? Even if there is any disagreement, a gal who has genuine feelings for you would want to sit down and have a good talk, not go MIA!


Not true. Local SG girl who broke up with me last time also did the same thing. just refused to speak to me and even slammed the door in my face when i went to see her....and i did not cheat on her, never beaten her, never took her money.

[nokia88]

I paid for her meals, taxi fares, and other stuff. I also bought her a bag. I am not being stingy, i am being cautious because I want a genuine relationship when money comes into the picture the relationship is screwed.

don't talk about free fucks. I am not after these. Don't talk about this from a commercial sex angle ok bro. What i want is a true and honest romance and marriage. I want to marry her. I really do.

If you still do not understand a girl well enough to know her thoughts , You are just not prepared enough to marry her .

Do you know her target of wealth she trying to accomplish here ?


Reasons might be but not limited to below
Maybe she got someone more well to do willing to marry her?
Someone else willing to take her as mistress with monthly allowance of $3k ?

[luckystrike8888]

Bro, 千万别钻"牛角尖"!

牛角尖中的老鼠:
老鼠钻到牛角尖里去了。它跑不出来，却还拼命往里钻。
牛角对它说：“朋友，请退出去，你越往里钻，路越狭了。”
老鼠生气地说：“哼！我是百折不回的英雄，只有前进，决不后退的！”
“可是你的路走错了啊！”
“谢谢你，”老鼠还是坚持自己的意见，“我一生从来就是钻洞过日子的，怎么会错呢？”
不久，这位“英雄”便活活闷死在牛角尖里了。

Bro, you are serious in marrying her but how about her? Seems like very obvious leh. Just get out of it and move on, man!

[steinbecksg]

also she sent me 2 smses that hint at her hidden agenda. She said," since you already know my motive why did you pretend to be silly and continued dating me"...

another sms said,"all these while i accompanied you (socially) and 陪睡, for free, you obtained quite a bit of advantage."

I thought we were in love.. how come she sounds like shes in it for money, for materials returns? She sounds like a social escort. Maybe I should pay her by the hour the moment we meet up? The words 陪睡 sound so inappropriate. I mean, when a girl has sex with a guy she loves, she surely would not use such terms. Only gals who sleep with men for money and other benefits would use such words. I am really very hurt and down.

[noobcomer]

i guess i can understand ur feelings bro steinbecksg

i know my prc gf till date only 11 mths but we are going to rom next month. sometimes it is not how long u know a person as many girls actually hide their true self till after marriage when they reveal their true colors. so sometimes knowing a person long does not mean u will know her true personality.

she may not love u as u said or maybe u did something to break her heart unknowingly? since u said u never had gf, so i presume u have no experience in dealing with them? especially since our culture n thinking is different from them.

there was once i had a big squabble with my gf and she did not pick up my calls, in the end i waited for her at her workplace till she gave up and came out to talk to me. maybe u can have a last talk with her to find out the problems between u 2.

but what other bros said about prc are here looking for wealth is true. even my gf admits she came here so she can provide more for her parents. but truth is not only prc, but all girls are materialistic so u have to look out for urself

[Cyril]

If sharing it out makes you feel better, go on. Just remember when you finish writing, reflect and don't make the same mistake anymore. But barring getting your feelings hurt which sucks, you don't seem to have suffered financially, or not much.
Since her sms has been so obvious, let it out and move on.

[steinbecksg]

hi noobcomer. Thanks for yr reply.

We didn't have any quarrel. And in my case, she actually changed her hp no. This means she wanted to sever all ties with me. I feel so depressed and puzzled. I have actually thought of suicide. I kept begging her via QQ... but she just kept rejecting my "add her" requests. I am willing to forgive whatever wrongs she has done. Even if i had hurt her unknowingly, which i had not, why must she be so heartless?

Once again thanks for yr reply noobcomer.

[IwantbustyKim]

Hi all Samsters.

I'm 31 this year and the gal is 25. I know everyone has a limited attention span. So I will provide the most pertinent points in my story. She is not a whore but working in a factory in Singapore. The gal and I were very close, very loving, to the extent that we were planning marriage. And yes, we had had sex many times.

Then one day, she deleted her Facebook profile and changed her hp no. I couldn't reach her. I tried messaging her via QQ but she declined my friend requests countless of times. These signs were the most obvious that she did not love me as much as she claimed to be. I mean, would a gal suddenly cut off all contact with you when she is extremely in love with you? Even if there is any disagreement, a gal who has genuine feelings for you would want to sit down and have a good talk, not go MIA!

She showed me pics of her hometown, her father, herself back in China and told me the things I had to do in order to marry her. She said I need to bring my parents to China to see her parents and hold a banquet there. As you guys, can see we were very serious.

I want to continue writing about other things relating to this con job but I am too depressed to continue. Even though I know she is conning me through careful analysis of the whole saga, I still wish I am wrong. I still wish she is true to me like I am true to her... Will continue soon.

At least u din lose money...That's a good thing mah.

[jonrai]

If you still love her, you should wish her all the best becos this is the way she want!

Life still carry on, if you still anger and puzzle go and bonk some FL to release yourself la!

[nokia88]

hi noobcomer. Thanks for yr reply.

We didn't have any quarrel. And in my case, she actually changed her hp no. This means she wanted to sever all ties with me. I feel so depressed and puzzled. I have actually thought of suicide. I kept begging her via QQ... but she just kept rejecting my "add her" requests. I am willing to forgive whatever wrongs she has done. Even if i had hurt her unknowingly, which i had not, why must she be so heartless?

Once again thanks for yr reply noobcomer.

Look at this from another prospective ,

If she is heartless she will be like other "拜金“ and kept you in the dark and carry on squeezing your money by way of gifts .

She had the decency to let you know her intent and she dun want to con you anymore which is quite rare .

Juz let go and move on unless you can furnish her target of wealth which might be 100k or 200k .

[sexy duckie]

hi noobcomer. Thanks for yr reply.

We didn't have any quarrel. And in my case, she actually changed her hp no. This means she wanted to sever all ties with me. I feel so depressed and puzzled. I have actually thought of suicide. I kept begging her via QQ... but she just kept rejecting my "add her" requests. I am willing to forgive whatever wrongs she has done. Even if i had hurt her unknowingly, which i had not, why must she be so heartless?

Once again thanks for yr reply noobcomer.

Bro, sorry to heard that... I had same experience as you before... If you had this type relationship problem, there is nobody can help you. The one that can help you is yourself. You must change your thinking & move on... When you really wanna to do stupid thing, think of your parent & someone that love you 1st.... Just remember, you only lose someone that dun love you But she is losing someone that love her... She is the one that lose more...

[samsam33]

She could have found her sugar daddy, that's why she wants to move on

You should move on too. You should count your lucky stars that you bedded her for 7 months and you did not lose much of your money.

hi noobcomer. Thanks for yr reply.

We didn't have any quarrel. And in my case, she actually changed her hp no. This means she wanted to sever all ties with me. I feel so depressed and puzzled. I have actually thought of suicide. I kept begging her via QQ... but she just kept rejecting my "add her" requests. I am willing to forgive whatever wrongs she has done. Even if i had hurt her unknowingly, which i had not, why must she be so heartless?

Once again thanks for yr reply noobcomer.

[alan0338]

TS, she nv cheated u la, its u who cheated her tats y she dump u!! :D
after fucking so many times and u nv even spend big $$$ on her, if i am the gal, i will not only dump u, i would have FUCK u upside down first and then dump u.. :p
if u really love her, u will not be cautious at all. ;)
ur precaution had spoil all feelings between u guys, its a good and bad thing afterall... ;)

[teebs_darklord]

I guess for these 6 months she was nurturing me, to get me really hooked onto her before asking for $ or material stuff.

It is hard to fathom why she is so deceitful. I really love her, why don't she get into a love relationship with me? Why resort to cheating me?

I think she does have some genuine feelings for me but these are ranked 2nd. Her 1st priority is to con me. I mean, humans being humans, even if a gal wants to con you, during the process she might develop some real feelings for you. That is only natural. But at the end of the day, her primary motive still comes first.


I paid for her meals, taxi fares, and other stuff. I also bought her a bag. I am not being stingy, i am being cautious because I want a genuine relationship when money comes into the picture the relationship is screwed.

What i want is a true and honest romance and marriage. I want to marry her. I really do.

also she sent me 2 smses that hint at her hidden agenda. She said," since you already know my motive why did you pretend to be silly and continued dating me"...

another sms said,"all these while i accompanied you (socially) and 陪睡, for free, you obtained quite a bit of advantage."

I thought we were in love.. how come she sounds like shes in it for money, for materials returns?

The words 陪睡 sound so inappropriate. I mean, when a girl has sex with a guy she loves, she surely would not use such terms. Only gals who sleep with men for money and other benefits would use such words. I am really very hurt and down.


We didn't have any quarrel. And in my case, she actually changed her hp no. This means she wanted to sever all ties with me. I feel so depressed and puzzled. I have actually thought of suicide. I kept begging her via QQ... but she just kept rejecting my "add her" requests. I am willing to forgive whatever wrongs she has done. Even if i had hurt her unknowingly, which i had not, why must she be so heartless?


I must really hand it to you.

First of all you are REALLY clueless in a relationship. You talk as if you really love her but you see what you have written above in RED. In the 6 months you were together, you were always suspecting that she was out to fleece you right?

Now how can you expect ANY relationship to be based on suspicion? And how can you possibly be thinking of marrying someone whom you think is always out to cheat you of your money? Totally makes no sense to me at all.

Secondly, look at the paragraphs in BLUE. Is she right to feel angry with you? Of course! In these 6 months, you have been stingy, have been suspecting her of trying to cheat your money though you have admitted that you weren't cheated. And you have always had sex with her. You said you paid for her meals and taxi fare. Ah Boy, if you go out with your GF, you mean to say you expect her to PAY for the meals and taxi fare is it??? If you were in her shoes and your so called boyfriend who wanted to marry you only wanted to fuck you and didn't want to spend any money on you because he was afraid that you were out to cheat your money, how would you feel?

Thirdly, you say you do not want money issues to be in the picture. Is that even possible? Do you think any gal would like a guy who is a pauper, owes people 1 million dollars, has no job and is homeless?

Finally, it is very obvious that she is totally fed up with you and has given up totally on you. Since that is the case, then just move on.

[shabydog]

May I know, TS, what's her name? And which part of China did she claimed she came from?

Cos I encountered someone like you described....

[pandalittle]

Bro count yourself lucky u managed to get out of the r/s before losing all your money

Whats worse than a broken heart is an empty bank account

Maybe she had feelings for you thats why she stayed at your side for past few months. But you cannot provide her material needs so just let her go. After all she is here for the money

Do not even consider suicide as the pain your parents will go through will be 10000x worse than your current heart break

As I always tell my friends, time will dilute all the pain...

Go ahead and emo for a while. But stand up stronger, work harder and play even harder. When you are rich you will be too busy choosing which girl to fuck or love

[Lateral]

Now you have a bit more experience, next time you will do better.
Keep your chin up, still plenty of girls around.

And keep away from the negative thoughts ya ?

[VanGogh]

TS, she nv cheated u la, its u who cheated her tats y she dump u!! :D
after fucking so many times and u nv even spend big $$$ on her, if i am the gal, i will not only dump u, i would have FUCK u upside down first and then dump u.. :p
if u really love her, u will not be cautious at all.
ur precaution had spoil all feelings between u guys, its a good and bad thing afterall...

That's very well said Bro Alan :D

TS, dont mind share contact ? 7 months FB, just meals n buy bag nia, I also want (i'm sure some bros here also don't mind), dunno why u KBKB here for.. ..

Pls tell her I'll buy her the laptop after the 7th month ... :D and pass me the contact can ??

[joew2005]

there's no 2 ways on how 2 going abt resolving tis situation.
Move on .....
never give her any chances in the future 2 get back 2 u ..... emotionally.

[HCKing]

ok TS just to share my thoughts on this,

this girl most likely has accepted u as a companion only. a so called 'temp boyfriend'. i myself have played this temp boyfriend role b4 a few yrs back with a PRC female friend ( non-WL ) for 2 mths. we went out just like normal couples, shop and dine, went her place for overnight, bonked till siao but in actual fact she isnt serious with me at all. she is just feeling lonely, home sick and needs some BFE while waiting patiently for her 'right guy' to come into her life. they dont fall in love as easily as u think TS. to the guys whom they dont love but treated them like princess they can be very heartless yet they can also be very devoted and loving towards some jerks or bastards that they really love. i think u can see which category u belongs to now TS.

[grouchycabi]

Why is it that the cheater must be the PRC girl?

From what I have read with regard to what the TS says, I have to say he is the ARSEHOLE.

[Baen]

You lucky already bro, got another bro actually fork out 12k for his FL gf, now everything also going downhill. Compared to him, you really don't have anything to complain. You can check out his situation in Affairs of The Heart. If you think your case is different, it is, you got off much easier.

[shawnanderson]

her smses already stated clearly what she want and is something u cannot give her.

most likely, after a few mths with u, she knows that u will not or cannot give her what she wants, she already sian half liao.. she is just waiting to find a golden turtle before giving u up.. as u can accompany her back then.

btw, those taxi rides and meals are not a lot. by working as FL, she can earn much more. And its the same, just having sex.

TS, at least you benefit from all the sex. I feel that the gal is at the losing end :p There are many more others, who not only lost the gal but also lost $$. You are considered lucky.

[biozaogeng]

dumb fuck. lol. bro, WAKE UP LIAO!

tio con still don't wanna believe. you buy enron share at $100USD the scandal come out drop to 5 cents u still think Ken Lay is innocent and that the share will rise back to $100usd.

move on liao.... don't mean to be harsh but face reality.

prc girl come here all come for money lar.

don't care prostitute, factory worker, or even scholar, all come for money. but get it in differnt ways. if it means crushing the hearts of some sg men, who cares. think of it as visit prostitute lar.

balance mar. got cum come out, got money go out. fair fair mar.

[lustlusty]

I agree with bro Darklord. TS needs a more mature outlook in relationships. To share with you a crash course with relationships with PRC women, you need to crawl out of our typical Singapore nature where we can bitch and complain about everything and expect a nice reply or apology.
I have been married to a PRC for the past 4 years after 2 years of courtship and I have learned quite a bit about their outlook in life and relationships.
When they "disconnect" from you, don't bother to look them up and ask why. No amount of crying or swearing would work on them compared to a local.
The reason is because when they disconnect their minds are already made up that they do not want to waste anymore time with you. The unnecessary and eventually unproductive bitching is to be avoided. When a PRC woman calls you 老公she merely means that she likes you and you are a candidate for marriage. It is not a DONE deal.

To nurture a relationship with a PRC, one cannot behave like a typical kiasu Singaporean but to step up. If TS is keen to marry her, why didn't you offer to go back with her to China to see her parents? Such gestures need to be from the heart. And when you do go back to China with her, be prepared to toss out some dollars and not act as a grinch. The way to win the heart of the PRC woman is to 爱屋及乌. You need to step up to take care of not only her but to demonstrate your ability to take care of her family BEFORE she open her mouth to ask for these fundamental needs.

Another thing I realize with my own PRC relationship is the need to constantly be a dotting lover even after marriage. The PRC women has different expectations about love and not many would resign to be a homemaker.

Just my two cents

[wattonhenry]

think in general, once women 死心， whatever you do also no use. time to move on.

[ESebastian]

..
When they "disconnect" from you, don't bother to look them up and ask why. No amount of crying or swearing would work on them compared to a local.
The reason is because when they disconnect their minds are already made up that they do not want to waste anymore time with you. The unnecessary and eventually unproductive bitching is to be avoided. When a PRC woman calls you 老公she merely means that she likes you and you are a candidate for marriage. It is not a DONE deal.
Another thing I realize with my own PRC relationship is the need to constantly be a dotting lover even after marriage. The PRC women has different expectations about love and not many would resign to be a homemaker.

Just my two cents

Yes, I agreed. Once disconnected, it will stay that way. They will move on faster on the prowl again.

[Ah he]

To TS. I guess you are hidden some details in ur relationship. Why not you just open up and share with us. I believe you relationship problem not so simple. If you really need help ,dont hide anything and tell us here. :D

[hsbc]

there are so many other PRC in the market if you really love PRC.. why bother sticking with one only

[noobcomer]

The way to win the heart of the PRC woman is to 爱屋及乌. You need to step up to take care of not only her but to demonstrate your ability to take care of her family BEFORE she open her mouth to ask for these fundamental needs.



Haha bro,

Very true. 爱屋及乌 comes out from my gf mouth every now and then.

[steinbecksg]

I must really hand it to you.

Snipped.

Hi bro, I really appreciate yr replies. But I think you have grossly misunderstood the situation. My situation is not that of a cheongster trying to KC a girl and compare who has gotten more from who. You keep reading my case through that perspective and that's why you misunderstand. I am looking for true love with intent to get marry and enjoy the simple life.

Thank you anyway. Let God judge me. My conscience is clear.

[CawaBunga]

Actually I think you misunderstand. Nobody is talking about a cheongster trying to KC a girl. The thing is, if she is your gf, then treat her like a gf, not on the premise that she maybe intent on fleecing you. Gf is gf, don't matter what nationality she is. If she was local, would you have treated her differently ?

[steinbecksg]

I didn't treat her on the premise that she might be trying to fleece me. It was after I was dumped I started thinking about being fleeced. If anyone thinks handing a gal big money and expensive gifts is the way to get true love, then we are on a different wavelength.

Thanks for yr reply.

[teebs_darklord]

Hi bro, I really appreciate yr replies. But I think you have grossly misunderstood the situation. My situation is not that of a cheongster trying to KC a girl and compare who has gotten more from who. You keep reading my case through that perspective and that's why you misunderstand. I am looking for true love with intent to get marry and enjoy the simple life.

Thank you anyway. Let God judge me. My conscience is clear.

Did I ever say you were a cheongster trying to KC a gal? If a cheongster wants to KC a gal, then that gal is very likely to be either a FL or a WL. And your ex gf was neither. Anyway, my perspective was that you were a guy who basically didn't have a clue of how to treat a gal properly.

I didn't treat her on the premise that she might be trying to fleece me. It was after I was dumped I started thinking about being fleeced. If anyone thinks handing a gal big money and expensive gifts is the way to get true love, then we are on a different wavelength.

Thanks for yr reply.

Now this is very interesting. You didn't treat her on the premise that she was trying to fleece you but your actions suggest otherwise. You said yourself that you didn't spend much on her because you were cautious right? And the reason you were cautious was because you didn't want her to cheat you of your money correct? Also, if you never thought that she was trying to fleece you when you were together, why did you think that way when she has already left you? Ridiculous isn't it?

Ok, so your attitude to having a good BGR is to be stingy and spend as little as possible on your gf. And if the gal loves you because you are stingy, then that is true love? Keep on thinking along this line and you will never get yourself a gf or a wife.

Nobody is saying you need to spend big money on a gal and give her expensive gifts BUT it is a fact that gals regardless of nationality, race or religion love to be pampered and thus spending money on them is a necessity and not an option.

[alan0338]

how to be love when u are cautious of her? :rolleyes: :p

[old_yet_horny]

I didn't treat her on the premise that she might be trying to fleece me. It was after I was dumped I started thinking about being fleeced. If anyone thinks handing a gal big money and expensive gifts is the way to get true love, then we are on a different wavelength.

Thanks for yr reply.

Everyone has their own way of showing their love and affection for their spouse/ GF...

Some do it by buying expensive things, some by pure attention and affection.. Some buy property, some buy LV.. Some bring them out for holidays some just bonk them everyday...

So... how you treat her is not what she wanted to be treated... so she left you..Simple?

This means that u 2 are not the same click and u 2 will never be together...

Look at this this way... She left you by letting u know that u are not the kind of provider she was looking for.. at your end..she is not those 良家妇女 (decent lady) that you are looking for..

Dun brood over such fruitless and futile relationship.

I have seen couples who are truly in love but was seperated by illness and death.. what u experience now is too mild to even mention..

Bro TS... Move on.. take a short holiday and go enjoy freedom of being a bachelor.

[wildbeast]

No offense, but pls wake up bro. they are afterall PRC! there are many decent woman out there...

Cheer up dudes

PRC are meant to be fuck-ed only =)


Bro, just find your remarks very provocative leh..... Many men here have PRC wife.

[8250]

But I think you have grossly misunderstood the situation. My situation is not that of a cheongster trying to KC a girl and compare who has gotten more from who. You keep reading my case through that perspective and that's why you misunderstand. .

Maybe you can tell more of what went on so that can get a clearer picture of how it was like ? Maybe wrong perspective to you, but some of the postings are very neutral. Would help if you give more details.

[aksj]

But at the end of the day, her primary motive still comes first.

If you guys wanna go for PRC gals, I suggest looking for those who have the capability to get citizenship on their own merit. These girls are less unlikely to con you as compared to those who had to get a Singaporean husband to land a Singaporean citizenship.

You are right but not completely right. I know one gal got her degree here and got PR on her own merit. Now she no need to date her Sg bf, she engaged to some naive ang moh already, and said its just to get US citizenship. She is openly telling her friends this. Sad man.

[steinbecksg]

bro darklord, i find yr posts very extreme to the point of being unreasonable. For e.g. u said i want to be as stingy as possible to my ex... that is so absurd. I don't know how u got that idea.

e.g.2 you said" how you expect a gal to like a pauper"? That is never my position. I am unable to provide a jetset lifestyle but a decent HDB lifestyle with 3 square meals is within my means. I am not expecting a gal to accept a beggar bf.

I sincerely thank you for yr contribution. I am too depressed to correct yr several strange messages. Again I thank you for replying. Wish you all the best in every area of yr life.

[teebs_darklord]

bro darklord, i find yr posts very extreme to the point of being unreasonable. For e.g. u said i want to be as stingy as possible to my ex... that is so absurd. I don't know how u got that idea.

e.g.2 you said" how you expect a gal to like a pauper"? That is never my position. I am unable to provide a jetset lifestyle but a decent HDB lifestyle with 3 square meals is within my means. I am not expecting a gal to accept a beggar bf.

I sincerely thank you for yr contribution. I am too depressed to correct yr several strange messages. Again I thank you for replying. Wish you all the best in every area of yr life.

No, I think you are the one who is being wierd. Every one of us has had relationships that do not work out for one reason or another. But we DO NOT go around saying that our ex gfs left us because we suspect that she was trying to fleece us and she left because she could not do so.

[steinbecksg]

guys.. the lady just added me on QQ and asked me to transfer 5k to her bank account... My heart is being killed by her. knowing her real motive, now I can really move on thanks to her.

[jonrai]

which lady????:confused:

[steinbecksg]

which lady????:confused:

my ex gf lor

[jonrai]

OIC, ask her personally look for you lor. And give her 5000 rupiah.. haha

[steinbecksg]

bro darklord, i know you like prc gals. but you shouldn't be biased against me. You mentioned no one complained their gfs were trying to fleece them and left when they couldn't succeed. this is just so untrue. U mean in this world there is no scheming gals out there meh? I am not saying all prc gals are bad. There are good ones. so u shouldn't be so defensive.

[HotSpot881]

U just looking for Opinion, no need to refute any opinion given
Unless the TS is just trying to find a topic to looking for someone to chit chat here only :p

[seaman6969]

hey guys thanks for replying. No I didn't hand her any money prior to her disappearing act but she did ask me to buy her a laptop. I did not accede to her request. We knew each other for only 6 months. I guess for these 6 months she was nurturing me, to get me really hooked onto her before asking for $ or material stuff.

to old but horny, i wanted to post in "Matters of the Heart" but i thought that was for commercial bonks gone wrong.

this girl wears glasses and looks decent. It is hard to fathom why she is so deceitful. I really love her, why don't she get into a love relationship with me? Why resort to cheating me? I learnt from her the tricks gals use to hook men. For example, she took pics of us together with her camera, calling lao gong and pressed her body intimately towards me. During the whole process, she was very joyous and bubbly. Guys, visualise this scene. How many of you can resist this charm offensive?

I learnt that it is very easy for a gal deceive guys through some simple play-acting. When I was ill, she passed to me her China medicines. When I told her I got bullied at work she actually seemed worked up. When she was at my home, she folded my clothes for me without my asking. I loved her so much I did not allow her to do housework chores. I did them on my own.

Then once, after a quarrel, she cried loudly at my doorstep.

I think she does have some genuine feelings for me but these are ranked 2nd. Her 1st priority is to con me. I mean, humans being humans, even if a gal wants to con you, during the process she might develop some real feelings for you. That is only natural. But at the end of the day, her primary motive still comes first.

I want to share my experience with you guys. Hope you all can learn something from my bad experience. If you guys wanna go for PRC gals, I suggest looking for those who have the capability to get citizenship on their own merit. These girls are less unlikely to con you as compared to those who had to get a Singaporean husband to land a Singaporean citizenship.

You didn't even get her a laptop? I would also dump you. :rolleyes:

[newbieboy]

she's must be quite fond of you to cut you off before milking you. it happens. they have feelings and/or decency too.

i hear stories about boys like you, they're always saying how stupid, how silly, how "in love" guys like you are with them. putting the obviou$ issue aside, some ferry them around, ferry their friends around, wash their clothes, even peel their fucking oranges!!! :eek: so don't worry, you're not the most lovesick puppy out there, and she's not the meanest bitch you'll come across in your life. all in all you got a good deal. who knows, maybe you even owe it to her to give her 5K :rolleyes:

[teebs_darklord]

The points I'm trying to make and which you simply can't understand are the following:

1) You claim to love your ex so much that after 6 months on knowing her you want to marry her. (The gal and I were very close, very loving, to the extent that we were planning marriage. And yes, we had had sex many times.)

2) You claim that she loves you so much that she shows you photos of her parents, home etc and tells you what you should do in order to marry her. (She showed me pics of her hometown, her father, herself back in China and told me the things I had to do in order to marry her. She said I need to bring my parents to China to see her parents and hold a banquet there. As you guys, can see we were very serious.)

3) Then after she suddenly deleted her facebook profile, changed her HP number, deleted you from her QQ friends, you suddenly felt that she was out to con you all along:

i) I guess for these 6 months she was nurturing me, to get me really hooked onto her before asking for $ or material stuff.

ii) Why resort to cheating me? I learnt from her the tricks gals use to hook men.

iii) I think she does have some genuine feelings for me but these are ranked 2nd. Her 1st priority is to con me.

iv) also she sent me 2 smses that hint at her hidden agenda. She said," since you already know my motive why did you pretend to be silly and continued dating me"...

another sms said,"all these while i accompanied you (socially) and 陪睡, for free, you obtained quite a bit of advantage."

Now, let's be objective. You loved her very much and she loved you also like you said and both of you were considering marriage. So I presume that you already knew her character and how she was like before the thought of marriage even came into your head.

However, you then said that she suddenly decided to break off completely with you and you now suspect that she was out to con you all along.

Let me be very frank and honest with you. In all your posts so far, you have never even bothered to consider whether it was anything you did intentionally or otherwise that caused her to have a change of heart. Instead you conveniently said that she cheated your feelings and was probably out to con you. Do you have any proof of this?

And now, she has suddenly added you to her QQ contacts again and is asking for 5K from you? May I ask what the heck is this 5K for?

[mantikore]

guys.. the lady just added me on QQ and asked me to transfer 5k to her bank account... My heart is being killed by her. knowing her real motive, now I can really move on thanks to her.

Hi steinberg, please move on and open your eyes n ears big big next time u meet a gal u like. If a gal is materialistic, u can spot it even if haven get into a r/s. However, as the saying goes "love is blind" which u'll be blinded if u r head over heels about her.
Thus always approach a r/s wif a open heart n rational mind, never ever jump into it coz time will let u know if the gal is really serious about u. If u r not rich but has aspirations to make life good, even if u r very poor now, a gal who's able to see tat will go thru thick n thin wif u. Not easy but will come by if u persevere

[Palladium]

Did you ask her why she wants you to transfer 5k ?

[Palladium]

Since you put it that way, ignore her request and move on with what you have left and start anew. Closure and ignore. No 5k, no compensation. Just you now.

[Northern]

Out of curiousity, what did you get her for Valentine's Day ?

[steinbecksg]

bro darklord... do u understand the psychology of a guy deeply in love?

imagine a guy deeply in love with a gal.. and someone tells him:"the gal is trying con you." do u think the guy would listen? NO WAY! The guy would be strongly denying such a possibility and that someone would get a roasting.

It is the same for me. I, more than anyone, hate to state that my ex was out to con me. I was extremely resistant to the idea because I loved her so deeply. Even though there were obvious red flags that signaled she had ulterior motives, I was in denial. I kept jumping to her defence in my mind. I would analyse a suspicious thingy to the dead and tell myself:"no she is not like that. she is true to me." To finally wake up to the dreaded fact that she did not love me but was out to con me caused me a lot of pain.

so don't worry.. i did not wrong an innocent gal. Like what newbieboy had said, it is likely she found that I was sincere and treated her so damm well she decided to drop me without milking me.

When she was sleeping over at my place, I was afraid of disturbing her sleep, that i slept on the floor or sat by her side. The sight of her sleeping so contently made my heart melt. Though she told me I should instruct her to do housework because it is a gal's duty according to her, i did not.. i did all the chores on my own, cooked for her and washed the dishes. I loved her so much i can't bear to let her do the slightest chore in my house.

Sigh... when we were together, she remarked i would make a good husband, that i was a good man. after she dumped me, she insulted me repeatedly over QQ, calling me a bad man. Quite absurd huh? I tolerated all her insulted and did not retaliate although some of the insults were really abhorrent. She called my mother an old prostitute, called me a mad man, called me a poor man...

though we knew each other for only 6 months, she kept pressing for marriage. I told her we need to get to know each other better but she persisted. also when we had sex, she seemed to be very eager to get pregnant. I asked to ejaculate outside her body but each time she would get me to do inside her. And she lied to me once she was pregnant, that she got the kid aborted.

I didn't take advantage of her. I really loved her.. sex is the natural progression of love. And before some of u guys think that she is a tall, model standard chiobu, she is not. she is 1.58m tall and she is not fair. she is only average, definitely not a head turner.

I loved her.. I really do and i still do... but she has finally shattered the trust in me. I cannot guarantee i will not capitulate if she tugged at my weak spot. But I have become a lot more sceptical and cynical about her. It will not be easy for her to manipulate me again.

But on second thoughts, I really love her so much, if she is willing to come back to my side, i am willing to consider forgetting and forgiving the unpleasant past and start anew with her. I am not a playboy.

[Canoneos]

What has PRC got anything to do with it? That's stereotyping at best and racist at worst. Couples breakup all the time. To be honest, how can a girl, irrespective of whether PRC or not, love a guy who doubts her sincerity, motives and character? I don't mean to sound harsh, but if I were her, I'd run away as well.

[teebs_darklord]

Bro, who has not been deeply in love before? But you are nuts if you fuck your gf without a condom and you are seriously nuts if you really want to get together with her again after all that has happened.

Anyway, this is your life. And since you are already old enough to make your own decision, do whatever you please. Just don't come back and start another thread saying how you got cheated of your money after marrying her.

[pro.d.igy]

The exchange between TS and darklord really amuses me.

It's as clear as day that TS has got NO IDEA about love and relationships. And we have tons of other folks trying to help explain his situation. Already, from this case we already can see it's a case of fish outsmarting the fisherman. Yet TS still denies being a fisherman, and goes to the extreme to prove that he is really looking for pure love and blah. It's obvious that TS is BLINDED by his own opinions and doesn't care less about others except to whine about it.

And we have here darklord trying to telling him what's going on to the extent that even I felt pissed off with TS's response to DL.

Wake up TS, with your mentality, you will never be able to succeed in ANYTHING.

One thing, don't bother to reply me. I'm not keen to reply back. I'm only posting this here because I cannot log in to the other forum. :D

[Golden question]

The exchange between TS and darklord really amuses me.

It's as clear as day that TS has got NO IDEA about love and relationships. And we have tons of other folks trying to help explain his situation. Already, from this case we already can see it's a case of fish outsmarting the fisherman. Yet TS still denies being a fisherman, and goes to the extreme to prove that he is really looking for pure love and blah. It's obvious that TS is BLINDED by his own opinions and doesn't care less about others except to whine about it.

And we have here darklord trying to telling him what's going on to the extent that even I felt pissed off with TS's response to DL.

Wake up TS, with your mentality, you will never be able to succeed in ANYTHING.

One thing, don't bother to reply me. I'm not keen to reply back. I'm only posting this here because I cannot log in to the other forum. :D

bro,i fully agree with u,up to now already 5 pages of fr from bro reply and advise,he still defend himself.ts dont mistaken,i am not saying u wrong but just want to let u know that everything in life is a gamble,either u win or lose.bgr can break and engage or marry already can divorce.girl wil have a lot if u have money so why bother.a girl will only look up a man if he have money nothing else.

[venom]

bro darklord... do u understand the psychology of a guy deeply in love?

imagine a guy deeply in love with a gal.. and someone tells him:"the gal is trying con you." do u think the guy would listen? NO WAY! The guy would be strongly denying such a possibility and that someone would get a roasting.

It is the same for me. I, more than anyone, hate to state that my ex was out to con me. I was extremely resistant to the idea because I loved her so deeply. Even though there were obvious red flags that signaled she had ulterior motives, I was in denial. I kept jumping to her defence in my mind. I would analyse a suspicious thingy to the dead and tell myself:"no she is not like that. she is true to me." To finally wake up to the dreaded fact that she did not love me but was out to con me caused me a lot of pain.

so don't worry.. i did not wrong an innocent gal. Like what newbieboy had said, it is likely she found that I was sincere and treated her so damm well she decided to drop me without milking me.

When she was sleeping over at my place, I was afraid of disturbing her sleep, that i slept on the floor or sat by her side. The sight of her sleeping so contently made my heart melt. Though she told me I should instruct her to do housework because it is a gal's duty according to her, i did not.. i did all the chores on my own, cooked for her and washed the dishes. I loved her so much i can't bear to let her do the slightest chore in my house.

Sigh... when we were together, she remarked i would make a good husband, that i was a good man. after she dumped me, she insulted me repeatedly over QQ, calling me a bad man. Quite absurd huh? I tolerated all her insulted and did not retaliate although some of the insults were really abhorrent. She called my mother an old prostitute, called me a mad man, called me a poor man...

though we knew each other for only 6 months, she kept pressing for marriage. I told her we need to get to know each other better but she persisted. also when we had sex, she seemed to be very eager to get pregnant. I asked to ejaculate outside her body but each time she would get me to do inside her. And she lied to me once she was pregnant, that she got the kid aborted.

I didn't take advantage of her. I really loved her.. sex is the natural progression of love. And before some of u guys think that she is a tall, model standard chiobu, she is not. she is 1.58m tall and she is not fair. she is only average, definitely not a head turner.

I loved her.. I really do and i still do... but she has finally shattered the trust in me. I cannot guarantee i will not capitulate if she tugged at my weak spot. But I have become a lot more sceptical and cynical about her. It will not be easy for her to manipulate me again.

But on second thoughts, I really love her so much, if she is willing to come back to my side, i am willing to consider forgetting and forgiving the unpleasant past and start anew with her. I am not a playboy.

hmm bro.. after reading the whole thing since starting of the thread till now... i got to agree with darklord in some ways... just to let you know.. currently i also courting a PRC girl.. i think it will be somehow obvious in a way showing that the girl is up to no good... even when blinded with love... you will somehow feel she is really want to con you..

but somehow when i see the things you write here.. especially those in red which i highlighted... somehow it tell us that you are trying to make yourself look good and sound like you never ever done anything wrong to her or make her angry/pissed or whatsoever.. and afterall.. this is only your side of story... none of us here know her other side of story...

anyway... just take care... like others always say.. dont give up the whole forests just cause of a tree.. :) pardon me on my poor english ;)

[Oceanlee]

It seem to me that you are the party "1 self-inflicted" in this KC Game. In fact, on the begin part, the gal might target you as a Potential Hubby, but then along the way, your self-inflicted emotion and hearts get into the better and you allow her Word's to poison your mind and you drink of her "water" .... and you get so deep, thinking all these is LOVE !!!

After all, those gal who come so far, you think they just want to settle with you for a roof and 3 meals, and allow you to fxck her so easy ??? You must be Dreaming and get a hold of yourself now. They are after more than these, they need to have DREAM, their dream is $$$$ and to them this is Oxygen, fresh air. Dun believe, I bet you, give a Ugly Old man 5K and ask him to shown her and Upz her for 1 week, I bet you...she will do it.

You shall count yourself-lucky that you get fuck on credit (FOC) and it become a BAD DEBT on her account. :D

In fact, If I am you, I will take this chance to cut-her off and move on to other ROSE'S.

Next time do post your stuff in aka matter's of the heart, even your's is not commercial but there is not much dif, still a PRC, a PIECE of MEAT !
:D
Been there, done that. Nthg to shout about .... 2 cents worth of word's ... to minimised your so call "hurt" is to think about all her bad points and how she is not worth your time and energy and keep fxck other gal ....coz I am sure other will also provide the same Service ..... but do set aside some "maintenance fees". if you want good sex and like to hear those muchy and sweet words. No $$$$$$ No Honey ... Young Man wake up.
:p

[Golden question]

bro,i learn something from u,FOC is fuck on credit hahahaha,thats why somethime singaporean can be creative,well like what u day NO MONEY NO HONEY,we are in the real world and when MONEY TALK everybody shut up :D

[sakurada]

The points I'm trying to make and which you simply can't understand are the following:

1) You claim to love your ex so much that after 6 months on knowing her you want to marry her. [COLOR="Blue"](The gal and I were very close, very loving, to the extent that we were planning marriage. And yes, we had had sex ....Let me be very frank and honest with you. In all your posts so far, you have never even bothered to consider whether it was anything you did intentionally or otherwise that caused her to have a change of heart. Instead you conveniently said that she cheated your feelings and was probably out to con you. Do you have any proof of this?

And now, she has suddenly added you to her QQ contacts again and is asking for 5K from you? May I ask what the heck is this 5K for?

Pardon me for being rude but this story is only slightly more interesting than the super stupid Taiwanese serial, "Love". I hope the story doesn't run for 800 episodes. Shakespeare said lovers are like mad men. Our friend in love can't rationalize very well, especially now. Time heals everything, including madness. He thought the girl is after his money and with the 5k she is asking, he confirmed her intention. Maybe. But maybe not. Hell, I dare say he or we may never know the reason(s) of her action (leaving him and asking for money). It doesn't help that we don't have many details but old birds like us can guess quite well what is going on. My guess is he doesn't make the cut. Period. It's like starting a new job under probation and the probation period ends and the job is gone. Bye bye.

It is difficult to stereotype but material comfort/money/security is very important to PRC women. Even our Sg women, with their 5Cs requirement, demand a certain high level of material comfort. Why would someone leave the comforts of her home town for an expensive city with a very hot and humid climate? Darwin theory applies in love, especially for PRC people. It takes money to win. Of course there are exceptions. But the exceptions are unlikely to be here.

Although we don't have many details, it is very obvious to everyone that our friend here isn't spending enough or he is just not the right person for this girl. If he is some stingy millionaire or if he earns big bucks and is saving up like crazy for a condo, I'm sure the girl will understand and may stick around. Pardon me for being condescending but suppose our friend is a simple person earning modest salary (nothing wrong with that) and his love and commitment to the relationship can't hold the girl's heart because she has higher standards, then the relationship is doomed and so be it.

From the responses of the thread starter, I can also guess that he is low in EQ. I'm not surprised he was shocked and wasn't able to feel or see signs of the relationship failing before she left him. Haha, I was like this before but with a Sg woman. No difference.

The $5k question. If this woman is worth being a wife, what is 5k? Just give her without asking why because the reason must be good like mother is sick, sister pregnant, brother in prison, etc. If I love someone, I would give her the money and say, sorry I can't give you more than 5k because the stock market is bad. Ok, say it is stupid to do so and/or our friend doesn't have 5k, how about giving her half? I like to do something like this so I will look either half stupid or half clever. And if she is really after the money, which I don't think so, then maybe our friend can negotiate a deal like fucking her for $x/time and pay by instalments.

Finally, I think she isn't out to cheat this guy. If she is, she would have left him much earlier. There is emotions involved. She actually has some affection for him. Not as strong as love but feelings. I have had many PRC relationships. Really. Money is just one element. I think she left him because of money and other reasons. He is just not cut out for her. Good luck to all lovers out there, me included.

[Hanns]

After everything she said you still willing to take her back if she wants to return, maybe you should take a good hard look at yourself. What you say is love, reads more like desperation.

[NokiaUser82]

Bro accept reality la...u nv think if u 2 married le den she buy extra large green hat for u to wear den how? Now breakup nia u kpkb so much...i can't imagine what will u do if reallie wear green hat...

[SmallBro]

Everyone has their own way of showing their love and affection for their spouse/ GF...

Some do it by buying expensive things, some by pure attention and affection.. Some buy property, some buy LV.. Some bring them out for holidays some just bonk them everyday...

So... how you treat her is not what she wanted to be treated... so she left you..Simple?

This means that u 2 are not the same click and u 2 will never be together...

Look at this this way... She left you by letting u know that u are not the kind of provider she was looking for.. at your end..she is not those 良家妇女 (decent lady) that you are looking for..

Dun brood over such fruitless and futile relationship.

I have seen couples who are truly in love but was seperated by illness and death.. what u experience now is too mild to even mention..

Bro TS... Move on.. take a short holiday and go enjoy freedom of being a bachelor.

quote this to TS. but many of the bros here think that money giving equals not treating the girl badly, which i have to disagree. How many prc wl work as whores and give their laogong in china money, some even force their gf to work as whores...there are alot of this kinda of cases as heard from the horses mouth.

If yours was a pure relationship , what bro old yet horny makes sense, she was looking for something else, and realised u are not the one after spending time with you. U who are looking for the goodie type may have fallen in love with the wrong person. Women can change anytime, so dun be too hard hearted, even thou i know its hard for TS.

[ahhui]

Look dude, u cannot say who is from which country.i get duped by a local girl before.i cant say singapore is bad,depends on individual character u met.birds of same feathers flock together.
MY present gf is from china,studying in local nus,same class as me.we date as per normal and why i admire her so much because she has strong determination,peseverance,and attitude in life because she has travel so far away to singapore.she invite me back to her house and met her parents.educated parents with very big house.and her dad and i often had chat about economy ,and news etc...
she has change my perspective in life, rather than the local girls i date.only know shopping,going resturant take nice pics, update facebook on iphone.i mean for what? i learnt alot from this girl...cherish the time now as our future depends on what we do now.study hard for good results and yes she perform well in school and now in foreign bank as investment banker due to she has great knowledge in china market etc, and my current job is she has recommend me to it.u can say my life turning point is owe to her

[relaxguy]

TS,
I presume that you must be pestering like hell these past few days and knowing you she finally come up with a plan that will "kill" your pestering, which is to make you give her 5000. She knows you will think that she is really after your money and give up. She already told you she has given more than she receive and she has bad debt on her accounts, she dont want to accumulated more bad feelings by you pestering.

2 ways you go about it
- give 5000 and prove her wrong but it does not mean you are right either, somehow a demand like that will place the seed of suspicion for the entire relationship, best is to let it go and learn how to deal with woman in future TS. Also, she will ask for more again.

- give up. I agree with many bros here that you have no clue on how to love much less care. Learn more on how to take care of people and understand others needs before yours. From your writing, you seem to be very baised towards yourself, as if you have not done a single thing to make her react like that. Did you do any real serious self reflection? things dont happen by themselves, there are always influences and factors.

I believe she is not as bad heart as some girls, she knows you dont know what you are doing and are trying to cause as little harm to you as possible at the same time cutting her losses.

Take it easy bro. both ways lead to pain, or now or later. Better change boat to take and remember not to make same mistake again.


quote this to TS. but many of the bros here think that money giving equals not treating the girl badly, which i have to disagree. How many prc wl work as whores and give their laogong in china money, some even force their gf to work as whores...there are alot of this kinda of cases as heard from the horses mouth.

If yours was a pure relationship , what bro old yet horny makes sense, she was looking for something else, and realised u are not the one after spending time with you. U who are looking for the goodie type may have fallen in love with the wrong person. Women can change anytime, so dun be too hard hearted, even thou i know its hard for TS.

[randyboy73]

Why is it that the three alphabets of P,R and C put together always serve up a storm of words.

I dont like generalization. Why is it that they are taking all the flak, when there are enuf of SG, MY, Viet and Thai gals pulling similar stunts. Maybe the odds are higher solely because there are more PRCs in SG than the other nationalities (with execption to SG).

I have been cheonging for the past 10 years and I have had friends from all the above nationalities. The only two that I actually had a relationship with are PRCs. Both are tender, caring and strong minded. One of them who is in China now ran into some problems recently. I have known her for 3 years and this is the first time she asked for my help. Needless to say, I was most willing to, especially after what she and I had gone through together. Best thing about it, she stopped me from helping too much. I could have given her so much more, and yet she took the bare minimum. She and the other gal I am seeing now are gals with a lot of pride. And the best thing is they are contented knowing that if ever they needed my help, I would be there for them. That however does not mean I short change them. What ever I do for them, is out of my own willingness and should it backfire, I will never blame them as I chose to do so.

TS, if you want to step into a relationship, you need to go in with your eyes open. BUT YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE SUCH A NEGATIVE PREDISPOSITION. It will make you see a scheme at every turn and there is no way it can result in anything good.

As for your supposed taking care of her, paying for meals, blah blah blah, unless I am mistaken we do that for local girlfriends, as well, right? So what's the big deal here.

Don't make sweeping statements.

[Asleep]

Seems like the girl wants to be a PR and was serious on marrying you and getting it. But what made her change her mind about getting it through you is uncertain. You portayed yourself as an innocent saint in your postings so far, if that was so, why would she have left you ? Better to reflect on it then cry about the unfairness of it all, you need more experience in such matters as it appears your are quite naive and idealistic in relationships.

[saddick]

If she wants your money, it wun be just asking for 5k. Like above bro mentioned, she asked 5k is just to stop you from pestering her. Confirmed.
She scold you and disrespect your mom is also just to stop you on pestering her, and give up on her. She is gone with the wind and there is no way of getting back together.
Reason is both of you have different expectation on a relationship. Some girls requires more for an everlasting love...something more tangible and some proactive move in securing the relationship. She left you is because you keep her hanging on. She may have been the victim afterall... now, do you still feel sad, angry and disappointed with her?

[ahhui]

Agree with that statement..if he met a singaporean girl like this,i dun think he will post this in the first place..the world is big,u dun invest your portfolio in one country,china is a big country.if u ever live and work there,u will know there are more beauties ,great character girls over there too..
and if u that capable,go get a scholar girl from local uni...see whether she will pick on u or u choose her

[Asu87]

Bro i got a frenz much more jia lat as he kana cheat by a thai girl n din even get to fuck her... The amount he spend on her is enormous at the age of
20! I had tried to pull him out frm fallin deeper but then i fail... Stupid thai bitch! :mad:

[mama88]

Man cheat woman. Woman cheat man. Nothing us new. Human nature.

[lovetogive]

Bro, I think your PRC GF started to fall in love with you, that's why she left you. They are very clear minded about what they want ($$$$) and will let nothing get into their way, not even love.

At least you are more lucky than me. Mine still refuse to leave me, meaning she still have not love me enough not to cheat me.

[cloudstreet]

TS, you didn't had her any money and you keep mentioning that she con you maybe she did at one stage love you but maybe that feeling change so she pack and left.

Don't know maybe there could be other reasons to why she left. Found a rich man??

[wells]

time to let go, upset in love relation is normal. Go for holiday, go out with friends, find new target or look for things that divert your focus. The pain will slowly fade away.

[RealEstateGuy]

bro darklord... do u understand the psychology of a guy deeply in love?

imagine a guy deeply in love with a gal.. and someone tells him:"the gal is trying con you." do u think the guy would listen? NO WAY! The guy would be strongly denying such a possibility and that someone would get a roasting.

It is the same for me. I, more than anyone, hate to state that my ex was out to con me. I was extremely resistant to the idea because I loved her so deeply. Even though there were obvious red flags that signaled she had ulterior motives, I was in denial. I kept jumping to her defence in my mind. I would analyse a suspicious thingy to the dead and tell myself:"no she is not like that. she is true to me." To finally wake up to the dreaded fact that she did not love me but was out to con me caused me a lot of pain.

so don't worry.. i did not wrong an innocent gal. Like what newbieboy had said, it is likely she found that I was sincere and treated her so damm well she decided to drop me without milking me.

When she was sleeping over at my place, I was afraid of disturbing her sleep, that i slept on the floor or sat by her side. The sight of her sleeping so contently made my heart melt. Though she told me I should instruct her to do housework because it is a gal's duty according to her, i did not.. i did all the chores on my own, cooked for her and washed the dishes. I loved her so much i can't bear to let her do the slightest chore in my house.

Sigh... when we were together, she remarked i would make a good husband, that i was a good man. after she dumped me, she insulted me repeatedly over QQ, calling me a bad man. Quite absurd huh? I tolerated all her insulted and did not retaliate although some of the insults were really abhorrent. She called my mother an old prostitute, called me a mad man, called me a poor man...

though we knew each other for only 6 months, she kept pressing for marriage. I told her we need to get to know each other better but she persisted. also when we had sex, she seemed to be very eager to get pregnant. I asked to ejaculate outside her body but each time she would get me to do inside her. And she lied to me once she was pregnant, that she got the kid aborted.

I didn't take advantage of her. I really loved her.. sex is the natural progression of love. And before some of u guys think that she is a tall, model standard chiobu, she is not. she is 1.58m tall and she is not fair. she is only average, definitely not a head turner.

I loved her.. I really do and i still do... but she has finally shattered the trust in me. I cannot guarantee i will not capitulate if she tugged at my weak spot. But I have become a lot more sceptical and cynical about her. It will not be easy for her to manipulate me again.

But on second thoughts, I really love her so much, if she is willing to come back to my side, i am willing to consider forgetting and forgiving the unpleasant past and start anew with her. I am not a playboy.

Brother, you are wasting your time rehashing your past. Move on. BTW alpha males dont do housework and dont clean house. Sleeping on the floor so she can sleep? An alpha male would have snuggled up and took her panties off and started spooning politely and turned her on. Instead you sleep like dog on the floor beside the master's bed. If you plan to pursue a PRC woman you need to step up. Buying someone a coffee and eating a simple dinner isn't impressive enough. But the real problem is you are not an alpha male. More like she male type with your behavior. What woman would marry a man like that?

[utd4ever59]

You have fuck her already and did not lose any money to her. Wat are you waiting for ? Go find another one to fuck. There are so many PRC gals to fuck here in Singapore. Fuck and go..fuck and go.. no relationship and no marriage with any PRC gals because two yrs later they divorce you and you lose everything including your ass hole.:D