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Big Sexy

16-04-2004, 07:08 AM

BASIC HIV and AIDS INFORMATION

Source: http://www.aidsmap.com/hiv-basics
Source: WHO (http://www.who.int)

What is HIV?

HIV stands for human immunodeficiency virus.

This particular virus was discovered in the mid 1980s and belongs to a group of viruses called ‘retroviruses’.

HIV attacks the immune system, and gradually causes damage. This can mean that a person infected with HIV is at risk of developing some serious infections and cancers that a healthy immune system can fight off. When a person develops certain illnesses and cancers, they are said to have developed AIDS.

A test can tell if you have HIV. If you do, this is described as being HIV-positive.

There is no cure for HIV. However, there are more than 20 anti-HIV drugs, and treatment with a combination of these drugs can mean a longer and healthy life.

HIV is present in blood, genital fluids and breast milk.

The main ways HIV can be passed on to someone else are during unprotected sex, by sharing injecting equipment, and from a mother to her baby during pregnancy, birth or through breastfeeding. But there are ways of preventing HIV infection in all of these situations.

What is AIDS?

AIDS stands for acquired immune deficiency syndrome. AIDS is the name used to describe a combination of potentially life-threatening infections and cancers, which can develop when someone’s immune system has been damaged by HIV.

You cannot catch AIDS and there is no AIDS test. HIV causes AIDS and it is HIV that can be passed on.

Being diagnosed with AIDS means different things for different people. Just because someone has AIDS does not mean they will die – but it is important to have medical care and treatment.

What is the link between HIV and AIDS?
AIDS is the name used to describe a combination of potentially life-threatening infections and cancers that can develop in people who have HIV.

Over time, infection with HIV damages the immune system, This means that the body cannot fight off a number of serious infections and cancers, which are sometimes called ‘AIDS-defining’.

Just because you are diagnosed with an AIDS-defining illness doesn’t mean that you are going to die. Many of these illnesses can be cured or managed.

Treatment with combinations of anti-HV drugs can keep the immune system strong, and because of this the number of people who are diagnosed with AIDS has fallen. Thanks to effective HIV treatment, many people who developed AIDS are now very well and can look forward to a long and healthy life.

What are the symptoms of HIV?
This varies from person to person. The only way to be sure if you have been infected with HIV is to have an HIV test. You cannot tell from symptoms alone.

If you have HIV, it’s very important that it’s diagnosed for the best chance of getting treatment and care, and of staying well

Many people have an illness, often called a ‘seroconversion’ illness, soon after they are infected with HIV. Typical symptoms include a fever, sore throat, headache, aches and pains, and a blotchy red rash.

In some people this illness is so mild that it passes without being noticed. Some people mistake it for the flu, but for some people it is more severe and they may need to see a doctor. However, because the symptoms are similar to symptoms of many other conditions, HIV might not be diagnosed at the time.

If you’ve had unprotected sex and notice these symptoms about two weeks later, you might want to consider having an HIV test.

After this initial illness, it’s not uncommon for people to live with HIV and not to have any symptoms at all. But the virus will still be causing damage to the immune system, and without treatment most people with HIV will eventually become ill because of it.

HIV-related illnesses can cause a wide range of symptoms. These can include fevers and night sweats, a high temperature, a cough that won’t go away, unexplained weight loss, severe diarrhoea, bad headaches, or persistent mouth and skin problems. Of course, these can all have other causes.

How do I know if I have HIV?
An HIV test can tell if you have become infected with HIV. HIV tests are extremely accurate.

Modern tests can tell if you’ve been infected with HIV very soon after exposure to the virus – normally within two or three weeks.

If you have HIV, it’s very important that it’s diagnosed. This will give you the best chance of getting the treatment and care you need to stay well.

How many people have HIV in the world?
The United Nations Programme on HIV/AIDS (UNAIDS) and the World Health Organization (WHO) released their annual figures for World AIDS Day in 2009. They said that at the end of 2008 there were 33.4 million people living with HIV. In 2008 there were 2.7 million new infections and 2 million HIV-related deaths.

Their report also showed that, at the end of 2008, 4 million people were receiving antiretroviral drugs.

How many people have HIV in my country?
http://www.aidsmap.com/e-atlas

What is the life expectancy of someone with HIV?
With modern HIV treatment, many people with HIV are living long and healthy lives. In fact, some doctors are hopeful that many people with HIV will live a near-normal life expectancy.

A lot of effort is going into making effective HIV treatment available to everyone who needs it. However, this is not always possible in some parts of the world. Without treatment, people with HIV will almost always eventually become ill, and their lives may be shortened.

Your best chance of staying well is to start treatment at the right time. To do this you need to know you have HIV. Many of the people who die from HIV-related illnesses in countries where treatment is easily available were diagnosed very late, often not until they were already very ill.

How can I support someone I know who has HIV?

This will depend both on your own and the other person’s circumstances, needs, and character.

But making it clear that you’re there to offer support, not judging, and listening, are often good places to start.

Learning about HIV, its effects and treatment may help you to understand the experiences of your loved one, and to be able to discuss their experience or options.

Finding out about other sources of support – both for the person with HIV and yourself – is also likely to be a good idea. There are many organisations that provide information, advice and support across the world.

Where did HIV come from?
HIV is very similar to a virus called SIV (simian immunodeficiency virus), which is found in monkeys.

There’s now good evidence that it jumped species from chimpanzees to man in the early 20th century.

How has HIV affected the world?
Untreated HIV eventually leads to AIDS. The first cluster of AIDS cases were reported in New York and San Francisco in 1981. Doctors noticed that gay men were becoming ill with a rare form of pneumonia (PCP) and a cancer called Kaposi’s sarcoma.

Researchers worked out that these men had an underlying infection, and that it was likely to be sexually transmitted and blood-borne.

Further cases of AIDS were soon reported in gay men in other countries, including the UK. But it quickly became apparent that AIDS was affecting other groups as well.

In 1985, the virus that is now known as HIV was identified.

Even before HIV was discovered, safer sex and safer drug use had become established ways of reducing the risk of the illness.

As the virus spread around the world and deaths mounted, research went into finding a cure or vaccine. The first drug found to have an effect against HIV was AZT.

Other drugs were developed, but it became clear that treatment with one drug alone did not work well in the long term.

Treatment with two anti-HIV drugs was shown to have more benefit, but the real breakthrough came with development of new anti-HIV drugs that worked against the virus in a number of different ways.

In 1996, triple-drug HIV treatment was introduced. This treatment was able to reduce the amount of virus in the blood and allow the immune system to strengthen. Thanks to this treatment, the number of AIDS deaths fell dramatically in countries where treatment was widely available.

However, HIV was spreading rapidly in some of the world’s poorest countries, especially in southern Africa, and wider access to HIV treatment in these countries is only now starting to become a reality.

The early HIV treatment combinations were difficult to take and many caused unpleasant and long-term side-effects.

More powerful, easier-to-take and safer drugs gradually became available. Thanks to these, and other improvements in HIV care, doctors have become increasingly hopeful that many people with HIV will be able to live a near-normal lifespan.

Nevertheless, HIV continues to spread. The infection is spreading rapidly in Eastern Europe, China, India and south-east Asia.

HIV is now firmly established as one of the leading health concerns of the 21st century, and one of the most significant causes of illness and death in human history.

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Big Sexy

16-04-2004, 07:12 AM

HIV Basics > Transmission
Source: http://www.aidsmap.com/hiv-basics

How is HIV transmitted?
HIV is found in body fluids. It is present in enough quantity to be infectious in genital fluids, blood and breast milk.

The main ways in which HIV is passed on are unprotected anal, vaginal and oral sex, by sharing injecting equipment, and from a mother to her baby during pregnancy, birth or breastfeeding.

Condoms provide excellent protection against HIV transmission during sex.

If you inject drugs, you can reduce the risk of HIV and other infections by not sharing needles or other injecting equipment.

With the right treatment and care during pregnancy and birth, and by not breastfeeding, it’s nearly always possible to prevent mother-to-child transmission of HIV.

How is HIV not transmitted?
You cannot get HIV from kissing, by hugging, or by shaking hands with somebody with HIV – or any other normal social contact.

Nor can you get HIV by being in the same place as someone with HIV, or by sharing household items such as crockery, cutlery, or bed linen.

HIV is not passed on by spitting, sneezing or coughing.

What can I do that is safe?
Kissing, hugging, massage, and mutual masturbation are all completely safe.

Condoms provide excellent protection against HIV when used properly for anal, vaginal or oral sex.

The risk of HIV transmission from oral sex is much lower than for anal or vaginal sex. Some people choose to use condoms or dental dams for oral sex to reduce this risk even further.

If you inject drugs, you can reduce the risk of HIV and other infections by not sharing needles or other injecting equipment.

I’m starting a relationship with someone who is HIV-positive, what do I need to know?
Many people who are HIV-negative are in successful, loving, and intimate relationships with an HIV-positive partner.

Modern HIV treatment and care can significantly improve your partner’s health and life expectancy. Many people with HIV can expect to have a near-normal lifespan. There’s a lot of support available to help you both deal with the stresses and strains related to HIV that may arise in your relationship.

It may be reassuring to know that you can stay HIV-negative. It’s completely safe to kiss and hug your partner. What’s more, many couples have intimate and fulfilling sex lives without passing on HIV

HIV Basics > Testing
Source: http://www.aidsmap.com/hiv-basics

How do I know if I have HIV?
An HIV test can tell if you have become infected with HIV. HIV tests are extremely accurate.

The tests used today can usually tell if a person has HIV within a month of their infection. However to be certain that a person does not have HIV, it’s recommended to test again three months after possible exposure to HIV.

If you have HIV, it’s very important that it’s diagnosed. This will give you the best chance of getting the treatment and care you need to stay well.

Where can I get an HIV test?
check out www.afa.gov.sg
Visiting AFA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXGW76RIYFA

What does an HIV test involve?
There are several different types of HIV tests. Often a small sample of blood is taken and analysed in a laboratory. Other tests give an initial rapid result using finger-prick blood, or even saliva. It’s often possible to get a test result the same day.

The tests used today can usually tell if a person has HIV within two or three weeks of their infection. In the past you might have had to wait three months to be certain that your test result is accurate.

It’s a good idea to talk to the person giving you the HIV test if you have any questions about it.

Big Sexy

16-04-2004, 07:13 AM

HIV Basics > Treatment
Source: http://www.aidsmap.com/hiv-basics

Can HIV be cured?
There is no cure for HIV. There has been, and continues to be, lots of research into possible cures.

But treatment with anti-HIV drugs means that many people with HIV are living long and healthy lives.

How is HIV treated?
Treatment for HIV involves taking a combination of anti-HIV drugs. This treatment has a very powerful anti-HIV effect and stops the virus from reproducing.

This allows the immune system to strengthen and fight infections effectively.

To get the most benefit from your HIV treatment, you need to take it properly. This is often called ‘adherence’.

What does HIV treatment involve?
HIV treatment involves taking anti-HIV drugs every day. These cannot cure HIV. However, they can stop HIV from reproducing. This allows the immune system to stay strong.

There are now more than 20 of these drugs, although they are not all available everywhere in the world. HIV is normally treated with a combination of three different drugs. Most HIV treatment combinations are taken once or twice daily. This treatment has a very powerful anti-HIV effect. Thanks to HIV treatment, many people with the virus can hope to live a long and healthy life.

You should aim to take all the doses of your treatment. Missing just a few doses a month can mean that your treatment doesn’t work properly, and your HIV may become resistant to the drugs that you are taking.

Anti-HIV drugs can interact with other some other prescribed drugs, medications you would buy from a pharmacy, herbal remedies and illegal or ‘recreational’ drugs. To reduce the risk of interactions, it’s important to tell your HIV doctor or pharmacist about any other medicines and drugs you are taking.

You’ll be monitored regularly to see if your treatment is working. If you do encounter a problem with your treatment, it should be possible to do something about it.

Where can I go for treatment and care?
Medical care for HIV happens in a wide range of hospital and other medical settings, depending on where you are in the world. You can find out about treatment centres in the country where you live using the e-atlas on this website.

What can I do to help myself?
There’s a lot you can do to look after your physical and mental health and general wellbeing.

Leading a healthy lifestyle is a good start. This includes getting enough sleep, eating a good diet, exercising, not smoking, drinking sensible amounts of alcohol, and avoiding or moderating drug use.

Attending your clinic appointments is important and, if you are on HIV treatment, then taking it properly is a very important part of staying well.

Looking after your emotional health is also very important. It’s good to have somebody you trust who you can talk to about your feelings and discuss any problems you may have.

Living with HIV can be hard at times, and most people need the help of others from time to time. Don’t be frightened to ask for help.

What are the side-effects of HIV treatment?
All medicines can cause side-effects, and this includes those used to treat HIV. But it’s good to know that many people find modern HIV treatment easy to take.

Anti-HIV drugs can cause both short-term and long-term side-effects.

Common side-effects you might have when you first start a treatment are diarrhoea, feeling or being sick, and headache. Some drugs can also cause problems sleeping, including vivid dreams, a feeling of being ‘spaced out’ or depression.

Most people find that these side-effects lessen or go away completely after a couple of weeks.

A few anti-HIV drugs can cause an allergic reaction. You should be screened for risk factors before taking any of these drugs, and then warned about possible symptoms. If you do then have any of those symptoms, you should seek medical advice immediately.

Longer-term side-effects can involve increased levels in blood fats and sugars, changes in kidney or liver function, or thinning of the bones. You’ll be monitored to see if you develop any of these side-effects.

It’s worth remembering that you don’t always have to put up with side-effects. Mention them to a member of your healthcare team as it may be possible to do something about them.

When will I need to start taking HIV treatment?
There is no definite ‘right’ time to start HIV treatment.

There are different views on the benefits of starting treatment earlier and later. Guidelines on when people should start HIV treatment vary in different countries.

You will need to talk to your healthcare team and weigh up the benefits and risks of starting treatment. HIV treatment is lifelong and starting treatment is a big commitment. If you feel comfortable about starting treatment and understand what is involved, you may be more likely to be able to take your treatment properly.

However, it is recommended that you should start taking HIV treatment if you are ill because of HIV.

Where it’s available, testing for the strength of your immune system (called a CD4 count) should help determine whether you need to start treatment. It’s recommended that people whose CD4 cell count is around 350 should start taking HIV treatment.

Starting treatment at this time reduces your risk of becoming ill because of HIV, and also reduces the risk of heart, liver and kidney disease as well as some cancers.

For this reason, patients with risk factors for these illnesses are especially encouraged to start treatment when their CD4 cell count is around 350.

What should I ask my doctor?

If you don’t understand anything, or if you want to know more about any subject, ask your doctor! Or there may be another member of your healthcare team who can help with a particular issue.

You should feel able to ask questions or tell your doctor, or another healthcare worker, about things that are bothering you. This will be important in staying as well as possible and increasing the chances of any treatment being successful.

Big Sexy

16-04-2004, 07:19 AM

Questions and Answers on HIV

Q. If a person has sexual intercourse with an infected female, what is the chance of him getting the disease?

A. The risk of vaginal intercourse without protection may vary between 0.1 to 0.01%. However, there are many other factors which can increase transmission including the presence of genital ulcers, the type of sex act actually performed, sex toys etc. etc.

Q. The blood tests only tell you after your body has produced the HIV antibodies. How do you find out whether you got the infection immediately after having sexual intercourse with a prostitute?

A. Be patient. You have to wait for sometime even if you use the newer (and usually used in research) antigen test you will still have to wait for a few weeks.

Q. Can HIV be transmitted through the act of oral sex or French kissing?

A. Yes. However, the risk is significantly lower than anal or vaginal intercourse. In oral sex, the person performing the act runs the higher risk but some couples use the oral dam which acts as a barrier or oral sex with a condom. French kissing has relatively low risk unless there are lesions or cuts in the oral cavity.

Q. Do condom protect one completely from getting AIDS if one practice casual sex often?

A. The efficacy of the condom is dependent on the quality of the condom
itself as well as the technique of putting on the condom. However, the studies suggest that the efficacy of STD prevention may be anything between 90 to 99%. Although I agree with you that it does not completely remove the risk of HIV infection certainly if sexual intercourse is taking place with an 'unknown or uncertain' partner some protection is better than no protection.

Q. How come HIV virus can be transmitted outside the body? like for instance thru a needle?

A. HIV transmission requires a very direct route for eg. in sexual intercourse there should be penetration and in drug users there should be sharing of needles with contaminated blood inside. I think that you are asking me whether the virus can survive outside the body for a prolonged period of time. The answer to that question is no, however, I have to qualify that statement. If the blood is dried and coagulated the risk of transmission is significantly reduced whereas the risk of transmission is much higher if the blood is still fresh.

Q. Dr Bella, you mean to say that a person has only 0.1 to o.o1% of getting AIDS if he has intercourse with an infected person. What about Anal sex ,what is the chance of infection then?

A. Anal intercourse has a higher risk and it can vary between 1 to 10%.

Q. I have read articles saying some HIV positive people use needle to poke other people to infect them with HIV is this true?

A. In theory this route of transmission is possible. However, this is not something that happens often and if it does it is already a criminal act and should be reported to the police. The large majority of HIV infected people are very 'normal' and do not behave in a manor you have described above. In fact, they suffer more from our discrimination and isolation

Q. What is the life expectancy of people diagnosed HIV positive?

A. The average life expectancy is about 10 years.

Q. I gather that the HIV virus is present in body fluids in an infected person, what is the risk of a mosquito biting this person and transmitting to the next ?

A. There is no risk at all of a mosquito biting and transmitting HIV from an infected person to another person

Q. What are the latest drugs in the pipeline that could make a difference to people with HIV in terms of lesser side effects or reduce the amount of medications that have to be taken?

A. There are a few drugs in the pipeline. An example of a drug that is taken once a day is Efavirenz. However, it must be taken in combination with two other drugs.

Q. Does the urine of an AIDS person contain the HIV virus?

A. Yes, it does. However, you would not get infected by touching the urine. The HIV virus does not transmit this way.

Q. Why in some cases a person who is infected with the HIV virus does not develop AIDS for many years?

A. Once the HIV virus enters the body, it begins to replicate and destroy the white cells (CD4 cells) and once the CD4 drops to a certain value a person then has entered the stage we consider as AIDS.

Q. How effective are the drugs available at present in arresting HIV? what is the life expectancy in treated and untreated cases?

A. The drugs will increase the white cell count and reduce the viral load to undetectable levels but it will not eradicate the virus. Combination drug therapy has only been used for the past 6 to 7 years. The majority of patients on this therapy are doing well.

Q. How does the presence of other STD infections influence the likelihood of a person getting the HIV infection?

A. When there is STD's, you are likely to have ulcers or breaks in the skin which allow the HIV virus to enter the body

Q. Is there a method to detect whether a person has AIDS before HIV antibodies are present in the blood?

A. HIV antibodies will be present in the blood before AIDS develops. AIDS is the advanced stage of HIV infection.

Q. How many types of aids virus are there?

A. Basically there are two main types: HIV-1 and HIV-2.

Q. What is the likelihood of a person getting AIDS if he or she has sex with an infected person, in terms of percentage?

A. With unprotected sexual activity following 1 occasion of receptive anal intercourse the rate of infection is between 0.1% to 3%. Following receptive vaginal intercourse the rates of infection is 0.1% to 0.2%. Whereas for insertive vaginal intercourse rates of infection after one exposure are 0.03% to 0.09%. With multiple sexual exposure the risk of transmission is much higher. It is worse with multiple partners and those with HIV infection but untreated. With multiple sexual exposure the risk of transmission is much higher. It is worse with multiple partners and those with HIV infection.

Big Sexy

16-04-2004, 07:20 AM

HIV tests for Home Team NSmen
Thursday, 23 l 09 l 2010 Source: The Straits Times
By: Ang YiYing Additional reporting by Jermyn Chow
Source: http://www.healthxchange.com.sg/news/pages/hiv-tests-for-home-team-nsmen.aspx

Aim is to protect officers, public but privacy issues have arisen

NATIONAL servicemen (NSmen) from the police and the Singapore Police Force and the Singapore Civil Defence Force (SCDF) will now undergo mandatory HIV screening.

The testing is to safeguard the health and well-being of officers, as well as members of the public they come into contact with, says the Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA).

But the move has also raised privacy issues relating to how information gained about an NSman’s HIV status will be handled.

Replying to queries from The Straits Times last week, MHA said the screening of Home Team NSmen started this year.

But it did not elaborate on why the policy was being implemented now or how the tests are done.

It also did not say how many servicemen would be affected, but according to publicly available statistics there are around 36,000 police and civil defence NSmen, including more than 7,000 in full-time national service (NS).

The Straits Times understands that the NSmen are likely to undergo the tests from their fifth NS cycle, that is, the fifth time they are activated for in-camp training.

MHA is not alone in implementing mandatory HIV testing. Since 1995, SAF servicemen have been tested for HIV at least once during full-time NS or during their NS cycles. Contacted for comment, Government Parliamentary Committee
chairman for Home Affairs and Law Alvin Yeo said the policy would inspire confidence among the public who come into contact with the officers. “They deal with emergencies and crisis situations, so it’s good to know they have no health issues.”

Asked why he thought it was being enforced now, he replied that the police and the civil defence force complemented the military in the overall defence of the country, so “for the same reasons considered by the SAF, it could have been considered necessary”.

An NS police assistant superintendent aged 28 said he had been told during a briefing that there was the risk of blood from healthy and infected individuals mixing when injuries are sustained in the line of duty, “so to avoid such things happening, it would be good to post infected people to other lower-risk vocations”.

Dr Asok Kurup, an infectious diseases specialist, said the risk of HIV transmission through injuries would depend on how widespread HIV infection is among the population, as well as the circumstances of the injury. Even so, the risk of infection through being pricked by a needle used on an HIV-infected patient is at most, 0.3 per cent, he said. He added that the prevalence of HIV infection here and the risk of infections through injuries are low, but not zero.

Community organisation Action for Aids (AfA) said large studies done in the West have not shown that infected emergency or health workers transmit HIV in the course of their work, but screening can mean early diagnosis and treatment.

A copy of a call-up notice obtained by The Straits Times states that a fine of up to $5,000 or a jail term of up to three years or both can be dealt to those found guilty of failing to report for the test.

On the issue of privacy, an NS police sergeant aged 29 said: “It should be voluntary, not compulsory. This is a personal medical health status and is private unless it’s relevant to a person’s full-time career.”

But NS police Sergeant Satinderpal Singh Sandhu, 29, said he saw the rationale. “You could suffer open injuries while on duty and people coming to your aid could get infected. I think it’s justified.” But he, too, is concerned about the confidentiality of the test results.

AfA president Roy Chan stressed that it was crucial to put in place measures to protect the identity of those tested, especially those who test positive, and to ensure their service and prospects are unaffected; he also called for a system of support, including pre and post-test counselling.

Asked about policies governing HIV test results, the Health Ministry said it is notified when someone tests positive, but maintains patient confidentiality, as required by the Infectious Diseases Act.

Big Sexy

16-04-2004, 04:03 PM

INFECTIOUS DISEASES ACT
(CHAPTER 137) PART IV CONTROL OF AIDS AND HIV INFECTION
Source : http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/non_version/cgi-bin/cgi_retrieve.pl?actno=REVED-137&doctitle=INFECTIOUS%20DISEASES%20ACT%0A&date=latest&method=part&sl=1

Person with AIDS or HIV Infection to undergo counselling, etc.
22. —(1) The Director may require any person who has been diagnosed as having AIDS or HIV Infection —

(a) to undergo counselling at such time and at such hospital or other place as the Director may determine; and

(b) to comply with such precautions and safety measures as may be specified by the Director.[5/92;13/99]

(2) Any person who fails or refuses to comply with subsection (1) shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding $10,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 2 years or to both.[5/92]

Sexual activity by person with AIDS or HIV Infection
23. —(1) A person who knows that he has AIDS or HIV Infection shall not engage in any sexual activity with another person unless, before the sexual activity takes place —

(a) he has informed that other person of the risk of contracting AIDS or HIV Infection from him; and

(b) that other person has voluntarily agreed to accept that risk.

(2) A person who does not know that he has AIDS or HIV Infection, but who has reason to believe that he has, or has been exposed to a significant risk of contracting, AIDS or HIV Infection shall not engage in any sexual activity with another person unless —

(a) before the sexual activity takes place he informs that other person of the risk of contracting AIDS or HIV Infection from him and that other person voluntarily agrees to accept that risk;

(b) he has undergone the necessary serological or other test and has ascertained that he does not have AIDS or HIV Infection at the time of the sexual activity; or

(c) during the sexual activity, he takes reasonable precautions to ensure that he does not expose that other person to the risk of contracting AIDS or HIV Infection.

(3) Any person who contravenes subsection (1) or (2) shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding $50,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 10 years or to both.

(4) For the purposes of this section, a person shall not, only by reason of age, be presumed incapable of engaging in sexual activity.

(5) For the purposes of this section, a person shall be deemed to know that he has AIDS or HIV Infection if a serological test or other test for the purpose of ascertaining the presence of HIV Infection carried out on him has given a positive result and the result has been communicated to him.

(6) No prosecution shall be instituted for an offence under subsection (2) except with the written consent of the Public Prosecutor, but a person charged with such an offence may be arrested and be remanded in custody or released on bail notwithstanding that the consent of the Public Prosecutor to the institution of a prosecution for the offence has not been obtained, except that the case shall not be further prosecuted until that consent of the Attorney-General has been obtained.

(7) In this section, “sexual activity” means —

(a) sexual activity occasioned by the introduction into the vagina, anus or mouth of any person of any part of the penis of another person; or

(b) cunnilingus.

Blood donation and other acts by person with AIDS or HIV Infection
24. —(1) Any person who knows that he has AIDS or HIV Infection shall not —

(a) donate blood at any blood bank in Singapore; or

(b) do any act which is likely to transmit or spread AIDS or HIV Infection to another person.[5/92;13/99]

(1A) For the purposes of this section, a person shall be deemed to know that he has AIDS or HIV Infection if a serological test or other test for the purpose of ascertaining the presence of HIV Infection carried out on him has given a positive result and the result has been communicated to him.

(2) Any person who contravenes subsection (1) shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding $50,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 10 years or to both.[5/92;13/99]

Protection of identity of person with AIDS, HIV Infection or other sexually transmitted disease
25. —(1) Any person who, in the performance or exercise of his functions or duties under this Act, is aware or has reasonable grounds for believing that another person has AIDS or HIV Infection or is suffering from a sexually transmitted disease or is a carrier of that disease shall not disclose any information which may identify the other person except —

(a) with the consent of the other person;

(b) when it is necessary to do so in connection with the administration or execution of anything under this Act;

(ba) when it is necessary to do so in connection with the provision of information to a police officer under section 22 or 424 of the Criminal Procedure Code 2010;

(c) when ordered to do so by a court;

(d) to any medical practitioner or other health staff who is treating or caring for, or counselling, the other person;

(e) to any blood, organ, semen or breast milk bank that has received or will receive any blood, organ, semen or breast milk from the other person;

(f) for statistical reports and epidemiological purposes if the information is used in such a way that the identity of the other person is not made known;

(g) to the victim of a sexual assault by the other person;

(h) to the Controller of Immigration for the purposes of the Immigration Act (Cap. 133);

(i) to the next-of-kin of the other person upon the death of such person;

(j) to any person or class of persons to whom, in the opinion of the Director, it is in the public interest that the information be given; or

(k) when authorised by the Minister to publish such information for the purposes of public health or public safety.[5/92;13/99]

(2) Any person who contravenes subsection (1) shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding $10,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 3 months or to both.[5/92]

(3) For the purposes of subsection (1) (a), the consent of the other person includes —

(a) if that person has died, the written consent of that person’s spouse, personal representative, administrator or executor;

(b) if that person is below the age of 16 years, the written consent of a parent or legal guardian of that person; and

(c) if, in the opinion of the medical practitioner who undertook the test for HIV Infection for that person, he has a disability by reason of which he appears incapable of giving consent, the written consent in the following order, of —

(i) a legal guardian of that person;

(ii) the spouse of that person;

(iii) a parent of that person; or

(iv) an adult child of that person. [13/99]

Big Sexy

17-04-2004, 07:56 PM

Big Sexy

22-04-2004, 11:28 AM

Update on the HIV/AIDS Situation in Singapore 2009

Source : www.moh.gov.sg

Update on the HIV/AIDS Situation in Singapore 2010 (https://www.moh.gov.sg/mohcorp/uploadedFiles/Statistics/Update%20on%202010%20HIV%20figures.pdf)

Characteristics of new cases of HIV infection reported in 2009

1. In 2009, another 463 Singapore residents[1] were newly reported with HIV infection. About 90% of the new cases were males and 10% were females. . This brings the total number of HIV infected Singaporeans to 4,404 as of end 2009. As at 31 Dec 2009, 2,089 persons are asymptomatic carriers, 1,037 have AIDS-related illnesses and 1,278 have died.

2. Sexual transmission remains the main mode of HIV transmission among Singaporeans. Of the 463 cases reported in 2009, 449 cases acquired the infection through the sexual route, with heterosexual transmission accounting for 61% of infections, homosexual transmission 30% and bisexual transmission 6%. Intravenous drug use (7 cases) accounted for 2% of infections.

3. 55% of all new cases reported in 2009 were aged between 30 to 49 years of age. Approximately 57% were single, 30% were married and 11% were divorced or separated.

4. In 2009, more than half (57%) of the new cases already had late-stage HIV infection[2] when they were diagnosed. This was similar to the pattern in previous years.

5. More than half of the new cases in 2009 (57%) had their HIV detected when they had HIV testing in the course of medical care, while another 16% were detected as a result of health screening. 9% were detected as a result of voluntary HIV screening. Another 7% of the cases were detected as a result of screening in prisons and drug rehabilitation centres. The rest were detected through contact tracing and other screening. When differentiated by sexual orientation, a higher proportion of homosexuals had their HIV infection detected via voluntary screening compared to heterosexuals (20% vs. 2%).

6. There were 45 female cases in 2009, representing an increase of 50% from 2008. More than half of the 45 female cases (56%) were aged between 20-39 years old. 58% were married and 18% were single. The majority (96%) acquired HIV through heterosexual transmission. 47% had their HIV detected when they had HIV testing in the course of medical care, while another 18% were detected as a result of health screening. 22% were diagnosed as a result of contact tracing. 51% were diagnosed when they already had late stage infection.

Preventing HIV infection

7. The most effective way to prevent HIV infection is to remain faithful to one’s spouse/partner and to avoid casual sex and sex with prostitutes. A HIV-infected person looks and feels normal during the early stage of the infection. It is therefore not possible to tell if a person is infected or not by looking at his/her appearance.

8. Persons engaging in high-risk sexual behaviour, such as having multiple sexual partners, engaging in casual sex or sex with prostitutes, are strongly advised to use condoms to reduce their risk of HIV infection. Condoms should be used consistently and correctly during every sexual encounter. They should also go for HIV testing regularly so that the disease is detected and treated as early as possible. HIV treatment can significantly delay the onset of AIDS and reduce the risk of death.

9. It is an offence under the Infectious Diseases Act for persons who know that they are infected with HIV not to inform their sex partners of their HIV status before sexual intercourse. Furthermore, under the Infectious Diseases Act, a person who has reason to believe that he has, or has been exposed to a significant risk of contracting, HIV/AIDS must take reasonable precautions to protect his sexual partner, such as by using condoms, even if he is ignorant of his HIV positive status. Alternatively, he can go for a HIV test to confirm that he is HIV-negative. Otherwise, he must inform his partner of the risk of contracting HIV from him, leaving the partner to voluntarily accept the risk, if he or she so wishes.

10. HIV testing is available in most medical clinics.The identities of persons who come forward for testing and those who are found to be HIV positive will be kept strictly confidential. Anonymous testing services are also available.

11. HIV/AIDS is not transmitted through normal day-to-day contact with a HIV-infected person at home, in school or at the workplace. You cannot get HIV/AIDS from coughs, sneezes, shaking hands, hugging, sharing of food and cutlery, sharing of toilets, etc. More information about HIV and AIDS can be found at the HPB website at http://www.hpb.gov.sg/sexualhealth/subtopic.aspx?id=1412.

WeiSiaoBao

22-04-2004, 03:16 PM

Yes I agree with you bro big sexy that its all about luck. But my question is more of clarification of the statement by the Q&A. Bcos all along my understanding is that if one has intercourse with an infected person w/o protection, its game over. But the answer posted is 0.1% risk, which is even lower than with a condom in place?!?!?! That is why I asked the question.

posh_boy

22-04-2004, 03:36 PM

so what is the risk in % for protected intercourse? :confused:

bongster

23-04-2004, 03:01 AM

www.thebody.com

for the transmission rates is ard 1-3% for unprotected of course a lot of other factors involved....

WeiSiaoBao

23-04-2004, 11:01 AM

Now it becomes 1%-3% +++ :(

collin_23

25-04-2004, 10:36 AM

I believe life definitely do no revolve around a few percentages. We own our lives to our parents.

Now it becomes 1%-3% +++ :(

newyorker88

25-04-2004, 10:50 PM

U want more reputation points??? :D

Hey S.E., I voted for him for his great effort for sharing tons of information on AIDS. I also like his postings on pix and download of pictures and movies. I dont anyhow give points. For You? Me need not do anything, there are many others who are here to deduct it from you.

perrymason32

26-04-2004, 01:20 PM

Hi bro WeiSiaoBao:

Why so many people being infected every day?

You mean globally? That's a question of statistics—the larger the population, the larger the community of infected.

Also, that's a question of risk factors—and risks do increase in cases where there is frequent sexual intercourse. Yes, frequency also plays a part in increasing risks—if not just for its part in probability computations, but also because the more frequently, say a woman has vaginal sex, the more likely she will have more scarring, scratches or microabrasions on her vaginal walls, that have less time to heal before the next sexual encounter...

Also, there are also places where HIV 1 or HIV 2 is rampant—in great part because of the lack of condom use (due to whatever reason). And another thing, if you remember the SARS infection (and contact tracing) chart in the papers last year, think of a HIV 1/2 chart that way—except it's way, way much larger—and what do you learn from that? Number one lesson—it's a geometric progression, the numbers grow faster when the numbers you start out with are huge.

Sad, but that's the way contagion goes. <sigh>

—perry

Thanks for the info bro Big Sexy. Just 1 question, when the doctor said "The risk of vaginal intercourse without protection may vary between 0.1 to 0.01%. ..." Does he mean that the female is an AIDS carrier and the chances of infection despite unprotected intercourse is less than 1%? Then why are there still so many people being infected everyday?

SEX EMPEROR

26-04-2004, 03:57 PM

Hey S.E., I voted for him for his great effort for sharing tons of information on AIDS. I also like his postings on pix and download of pictures and movies. I dont anyhow give points. For You? Me need not do anything, there are many others who are here to deduct it from you.

Tons of information can find from any related wedsite! Too much of this kind of information..all people who bonked WLs, ONS and etc must prepare to suffer from HIV or to be clear is AIDS. Want to play dun regret..what the point many ppl have take the risk to bonk raW and come to this forum looking for symptoms of the deadly un-cure sickness. :(

perrymason32

26-04-2004, 03:57 PM

AGREED! Bro BigSexy, you the man!

You might've scared the shit out of some cheongers, though...which could be a good or bad thing depending on who's looking, really...so keep the flag of knowledge flying, bro!

—perry

bro, a very great job done from you. nice day.

silver_fish

26-04-2004, 08:48 PM

Hi,
I remmember some bro posted that a AIDS vaccine is now undergoing trail. It will be another 6 years before it is approved. Could the bro posted the link again?

WeiSiaoBao

27-04-2004, 01:43 AM

Bro perrymason32,

Thanks for the clarification and input. So it is not exactly true that infection risk is 1-3% but that exposure plays a large part of the disease infection. I am particularly concern bcos of my silly exposure to a China niteclub gal last year w/o protection. Sigh..... I better say my prayers and hope for divine intervention.

And to bro SE,

I think we all know that information is avail on the net, but this is a sex health issue forum. There r bros like me who need as much interactive info as possible to help. Its not so much whether we play then start crying the aftermath but more that we realise the risk but need to know more. Thanks for your comments anyway.

stoneking

27-04-2004, 10:25 AM

Tons of information can find from any related wedsite! Too much of this kind of information..all people who bonked WLs, ONS and etc must prepare to suffer from HIV or to be clear is AIDS. Want to play dun regret..what the point many ppl have take the risk to bonk raW and come to this forum looking for symptoms of the deadly un-cure sickness. :(
This is a great thread by the thread starter, provide many useful info abt AIDS.
However, it was disturbed by a dog. woof..woofff...wooooffff

WHO LET THE DOG OUT?

perrymason32

27-04-2004, 12:17 PM

OK, I do remember hearing that it was an absymal failure—the trials—and that we are nowhere close to finding one.

But other bros, please correct me if I'm wrong, which I hope I am because I want to hear good news instead.

—perry

Hi,
I remmember some bro posted that a AIDS vaccine is now undergoing trail. It will be another 6 years before it is approved. Could the bro posted the link again?

perrymason32

27-04-2004, 12:30 PM

Frequency of sexual intercourse, the last time you had sexual intercourse etc do play a part, true. But, assuming there was only that one time you mentioned with a China niteclub gal, and you've never cheonged before, I think some counselors would put you in the low risk category if you used a condom and FJ only, and put you in medium risk if you did not use a condom and FJ only one time.

What is bad: no condom; she's a niteclub gal.
What is good (based on assumption above): you have no abrasions/etc on your dick, you have pre-ejaculate to shield you from anything in vaginal fluid.

You do know why the numbers are like that, right? The 1-3 % etc? Other factors count too—such as the 'unknowns', including whether she's infected to begin with, and what her viral load is during the time you had sex with her.

You don't know these. Most times, you cannot know these. So go for a test, observing the window period.

—perry

Bro perrymason32,

Thanks for the clarification and input. So it is not exactly true that infection risk is 1-3% but that exposure plays a large part of the disease infection. I am particularly concern bcos of my silly exposure to a China niteclub gal last year w/o protection. Sigh..... I better say my prayers and hope for divine intervention.
....

WeiSiaoBao

27-04-2004, 01:54 PM

SEX EMPEROR

27-04-2004, 03:47 PM

Bro perrymason32,

Thanks for the clarification and input. So it is not exactly true that infection risk is 1-3%

No matter how much you have absorb information regarding sex health..The main problem is too many guys cannot control their temptation and risk for it..bbbj,frenching,suck pussy,AR,Bonked RAW which can contracted any sex diseases just ONE time. I encourage to bonk raw or do whatever stunts with gf or wife..other than that especially FLs and ONS, if one insists in bonking, Condom is a MUST, NO FRENCHING,NO EAT PUSSY,NO BBBJ,NO AR and etc...even do so the risk of herpes still exist but many still want to be hero.there is no right or wrong but want to play then pay the risk can liao! :o

newyorker88

27-04-2004, 04:52 PM

No matter how much you have absorb information regarding sex health..The main problem is too many guys cannot control their temptation and risk for it..bbbj,frenching,suck pussy,AR,Bonked RAW which can contracted any sex diseases just ONE time. I encourage to bonk raw or do whatever stunts with gf or wife..other than that especially FLs and ONS, if one insists in bonking, Condom is a MUST, NO FRENCHING,NO EAT PUSSY,NO BBBJ,NO AR and etc...even do so the risk of herpes still exist but many still want to be hero.there is no right or wrong but want to play then pay the risk can liao! :o

Well, looks like you started to post some things that make sense....

:)

SEX EMPEROR

27-04-2004, 05:02 PM

Well, looks like you started to post some things that make sense...:)

Anyway thanks! I think this is the first time i reply to u coz this the ONLY time u write something make sense! :eek:

Sinful_man

27-04-2004, 05:39 PM

No matter how much you have absorb information regarding sex health..The main problem is too many guys cannot control their temptation and risk for it..bbbj,frenching,suck pussy,AR,Bonked RAW which can contracted any sex diseases just ONE time. I encourage to bonk raw or do whatever stunts with gf or wife..other than that especially FLs and ONS, if one insists in bonking, Condom is a MUST, NO FRENCHING,NO EAT PUSSY,NO BBBJ,NO AR and etc...even do so the risk of herpes still exist but many still want to be hero.there is no right or wrong but want to play then pay the risk can liao! :o
:D

So you reckon that BBBJ can get infected, Proven by who??
Sure doing raw with your gf is safe meh, maybe she also bonk by others RAW !!!

So, my opinion is that you should not be too POSITIVE with your thinking and make unnecessary assumptions !!

collin_23

27-04-2004, 06:24 PM

puting him on probation. :p

Well, looks like you started to post some things that make sense....

:)

newyorker88

27-04-2004, 06:26 PM

puting him on probation. :p

Ya, just now thinking of giving him a few points.. but lucky did not....

Big Sexy

28-04-2004, 01:11 PM

hi SiaoBao

When did it happened exactly? more than 3 months?? my advice is for you to go for a blood test at DSC after 3 month.

Check these links out

http://www.hivaidssearch.com/facts/
(there is a chat room there as well) i got the fact here as well.

http://www.sfaf.org/aids101/hiv_testing.html
this one also not bad.

It was that one time moment of folly that I went w/o protection with a working gal. Of course I go w/o protection with my subsequent galfrens. I see your point and am consoled from your evaluation. And I also agree that ultimately, the best certainty is confirmation. Thanks again bro

SEX EMPEROR

28-04-2004, 04:03 PM

It was that one time moment of folly that I went w/o protection with a working gal. Of course I go w/o protection with my subsequent galfrens. I see your point and am consoled from your evaluation. And I also agree that ultimately, the best certainty is confirmation. Thanks again bro

A moment of folly that u went w/o protection with WL had happened..now what you can do is practise safe sex in future...a moment of folly exsits everytime when u bonked a WL..wHAT will happen will come in time..take it easy..continue cheonging and don't think too much to make your life so hard...FCuked whenever u can to satisfy yr needs! ;)

WeiSiaoBao

28-04-2004, 10:58 PM

Big sexy, this took place almost 2 years back... since then ive had one jab for ghonorhea (im not sure how to spell). probably from someone else though. but apart from that one WL w/o protection, and my gf, the rest of my sexcapades have been well protected.

SE, thanks for the comfort... i have been trying to play safe by avoiding playing.

Rof|maoxz

30-04-2004, 08:42 AM

Just to carify with some of the sex experts here....

Q1. A female have sex with an HIV infected person, and subsequently have sex with a third man. What's the possibility of that third man being infected? I knoe the % of him infected with other STDs is quite high too. Tks~

collin_23

30-04-2004, 06:20 PM

very hard question.... :o

Just to carify with some of the sex experts here....

Q1. A female have sex with an HIV infected person, and subsequently have sex with a third man. What's the possibility of that third man being infected? I knoe the % of him infected with other STDs is quite high too. Tks~

BigBoy123

04-05-2004, 08:47 PM

ar will oso kena HIV?!

Rof|maoxz

05-05-2004, 05:26 PM

ar will oso kena HIV?!

As AR involves saliva, the mode of transmission is very remote.

Mutu

05-05-2004, 11:48 PM

wats ar?can someone pls explain?

collin_23

05-05-2004, 11:57 PM

Lick asshole.

Aka ass rim. :p

wats ar?can someone pls explain?

Big Sexy

10-05-2004, 11:34 AM

yes AR will also transmit HIV if the reciever got broken skin around his ass hole. your ass hole get sore when u stools are hard right and if the provider also got ulcer in the mouth then chance will be there.

ar will oso kena HIV?!

woodlanders

18-05-2004, 09:14 AM

hi bros,
where do you suggest I can go for a STD/HIV checkup in Singapore? And how much does that usually cost?

cheongkid

18-05-2004, 06:36 PM

hi bros,
where do you suggest I can go for a STD/HIV checkup in Singapore? And how much does that usually cost?
You can visit DSC Clinic (http://dsc-sexualhealth.com.sg/tpl/index.html) in Kelantan Lane. You can go for Anonymous HIV Testing conducted by Action for AIDS (AFA) at the clinic premises on Wednesdays 6.30pm - 8.00pm and Saturdays 1pm - 4pm. The test cost $20. No appointment needed. Pre-test counselling will be conducted and a drop of blood from your finger will be taken for testing. The result will be ready in 15 mins.

woodlanders

21-05-2004, 10:58 PM

You can visit DSC Clinic (http://dsc-sexualhealth.com.sg/tpl/index.html) in Kelantan Lane. You can go for Anonymous HIV Testing conducted by Action for AIDS (AFA) at the clinic premises on Wednesdays 6.30pm - 8.00pm and Saturdays 1pm - 4pm. The test cost $20. No appointment needed. Pre-test counselling will be conducted and a drop of blood from your finger will be taken for testing. The result will be ready in 15 mins.

thank you cheongkid, wat is the diff between the anonymous HIV test and those test they do during regular hours? its my first time there, which one do you think i should go first. thank you again

bongster

22-05-2004, 12:41 AM

AFA testing (anyononmous) u get the result in 20 min.,. for DSC.. need to wait one week

collin_23

24-05-2004, 06:18 PM

http://www.avert.org/wwhiv.htm

Some info on HIV.

Cheers

collin_23

24-05-2004, 06:21 PM

http://www.avert.org/wwhiv.htm

Singapore national statistics for HIV updated recently. Unfortunately on the rise, check out the link by newyorker88 also. :(

jare01

27-05-2004, 12:46 PM

http://www.avert.org/wwhiv.htm

Singapore national statistics for HIV updated recently. Unfortunately on the rise, check out the link by newyorker88 also. :(

Be Safe than sorry....

Sinful_man

29-05-2004, 05:04 PM

You can visit DSC Clinic (http://dsc-sexualhealth.com.sg/tpl/index.html) in Kelantan Lane. You can go for Anonymous HIV Testing conducted by Action for AIDS (AFA) at the clinic premises on Wednesdays 6.30pm - 8.00pm and Saturdays 1pm - 4pm. The test cost $20. No appointment needed. Pre-test counselling will be conducted and a drop of blood from your finger will be taken for testing. The result will be ready in 15 mins.

Bro, just curious, what if test is positive ?
Will they report you to MOH ?
If not then they will lose the record for statistic, right ?

Thanks

allenwu

31-05-2004, 10:21 PM

thank buddy, but use condom is the best choice, don't forget :D

Big Sexy

08-08-2004, 11:33 PM

i thought i will be good to bring this thread up again.. since so many bro here still asking questions on AIDS. hope it help :D

perrymason32

10-08-2004, 01:16 PM

IF YOU DO THE TEST ADMINISTERED BY THE AFA:-

1) If tested positive, they will draw a test sample to do another confirmatory test. Then they will ask the person who tested positive for ELISA Gen3 test (the rapid version of which is the one the AFA does on that day) to come back in one week's time to get the results for it. Only the number of the receipt is kept for collection and verification purposes. No name, IC no. etc.

If the confirmatory test comes back and the person is +ve, then the AFA counselor will give advice--have to seek treatment etc.

2) + 3) Then the +ve result is entered into database (maybe not even a computer, but a notebook, dunno) as one +ve result. So that when time comes for collation of data--they will give the figures to MOH. So whoever is tested and confirmed +ve, is just a statistic, or rather an overall statistic for the period/year.

Of course, if a person goes to the DSC Clinic and has the test done by DSC Clinic's doctors, or has it done at any GP or doctor in Singapore--then if that person is tested +ve, then all these doctors are required by law to inform the MOH, with the person's identity and all. And the person that is +ve is required by law to tell--in that, if that person has sex with another person without telling that other person that he/she is +ve, then that person is chargeable by law in a Singapore court.

Bro, just curious, what if test is positive ?
Will they report you to MOH ?
If not then they will lose the record for statistic, right ?

Thanks

lacoruna69

13-08-2004, 11:36 AM

Of course, if a person goes to the DSC Clinic and has the test done by DSC Clinic's doctors, or has it done at any GP or doctor in Singapore--then if that person is tested +ve, then all these doctors are required by law to inform the MOH, with the person's identity and all. And the person that is +ve is required by law to tell--in that, if that person has sex with another person without telling that other person that he/she is +ve, then that person is chargeable by law in a Singapore court.

Wah lau. Given the choice, i would rather be tested by AFA liao.
Since there is a difference in procedures involved, how come DSC can let AFA use their premises for tests?? It's really quite contradictory.....

CHEEBYFACE

13-08-2004, 12:31 PM

Thanks bro for the info. Every cheongster need to be armed with HIV knowledge.

perrymason32

13-08-2004, 02:29 PM

Well, the MOH knows it needs to keep track of infection rates to estimate the spread of HIV. But it also knows that the rates it can keep track of can only be underreported because not many people will want to risk being exposed as HIV+ given the laws and the society in Singapore. It knows that more people will be more willing to come forward to get tested, if they could remain anonymous regardless of result. (If you've taken a test by the AfA, you will remember a question in the survey form you have to fill in that asks if you would take the test if you had to give your personal details like name and IC # etc.) That's why it struck a deal with AfA.

It's not the ideal situation for MOH, but it's the best they can get. This way, at least they get to track the spread of this disease. They only get numbers and some demographics and details to splice the data—like how many men, how many women, how old, whether they got it from syringes/needles shooting up on drugs or through sexual contact, whether it's homosexual or heterosexual intercourse etc. Which is useful enough for epidemiological study, but not enough to hunt down and persecute and destroy HIV+ people.

Another reason to do the AfA test instead is the DSC Clinic no longer offers the rapid test like it used to a few years back. So if tested by DSC Clinic, have to wait about a week for the results, not like the 30-45 minutes you have to wait for the AfA one.

Wah lau. Given the choice, i would rather be tested by AFA liao.
Since there is a difference in procedures involved, how come DSC can let AFA use their premises for tests?? It's really quite contradictory.....

Big Sexy

13-08-2004, 03:25 PM

well said bro perrymason32.. u know something.. of all the points i have giving out.. i think u deserved it most.. :D there is something which i was wondering though.... do you work for them or in the medical field of work??? and thanks for keeping this thread alive...Cheers!

perrymason32

13-08-2004, 06:07 PM

Thanks, but no lah. You deserve more credit for not just creating this thread but putting together all the information on it too. (Actually, a lot of questions don't need to be asked, a lot of fears would be allayed—if only folks would just read the info you put on the first few pages of this thread.)

And no lah, it's just that I went through a six-period of psychological horror—fear gripping me to near psychosis—of sheer worry that I kena this evil virus. And so 1) I spent a lot of time asking a hundred and one questions of every doctor and AfA counselor I saw during my frequent trips to see them, 2) days and weeks of trawling the Web for the latest research (damn painful, this) on symptomatic readings and misreadings on infections (by the way, that's useless, cuz ultimately only the ELISA Gen3 can clear you, no matter the symptoms or the PCR (quantitative and qualitative variety included) 3) and months and months with only drugs to get me to sleep, so I have serious empathy for the worriers among us.

Been cheonging for four years, but this last episode was really bad, and I didn't know, still don't know, why. It's true what one counselor told me: When the fear grips you, it really grips you. And no matter how rational you are, and how well you know that the probability can even be negligible—when the fear's got in you, and wrenching your gut, it just won't let go.

I'm glad I'm out of it. Thinking about working with AfA, but damn clumsy with my hands, so may not be able to help with doing the tests on people...
How about you?

Anyway, have a good weekend, bro!

well said bro perrymason32.. u know something.. of all the points i have giving out.. i think u deserved it most.. :D there is something which i was wondering though.... do you work for them or in the medical field of work??? and thanks for keeping this thread alive...Cheers!

lacoruna69

14-08-2004, 11:24 AM

mustachio

14-08-2004, 11:33 AM

Bro Perry has always given out useful and sensible advice to bros posting questions on Sexual Health Issues corner.
He is our Sexual Health Guru here.
Got any doubts or questions on STDs or HIV, he is THE MAN to look for.

I can't agree anymore! Bro Perry is the man! The official advisor to all bros in the Forum on all HIV related matters. He had helped me overcome all fears and continue living a normal life.

bongster

14-08-2004, 11:39 AM

Thanks, but no lah. You deserve more credit for not just creating this thread but putting together all the information on it too. (Actually, a lot of questions don't need to be asked, a lot of fears would be allayed—if only folks would just read the info you put on the first few pages of this thread.)

And no lah, it's just that I went through a six-period of psychological horror—fear gripping me to near psychosis—of sheer worry that I kena this evil virus. And so 1) I spent a lot of time asking a hundred and one questions of every doctor and AfA counselor I saw during my frequent trips to see them, 2) days and weeks of trawling the Web for the latest research (damn painful, this) on symptomatic readings and misreadings on infections (by the way, that's useless, cuz ultimately only the ELISA Gen3 can clear you, no matter the symptoms or the PCR (quantitative and qualitative variety included) 3) and months and months with only drugs to get me to sleep, so I have serious empathy for the worriers among us.

Been cheonging for four years, but this last episode was really bad, and I didn't know, still don't know, why. It's true what one counselor told me: When the fear grips you, it really grips you. And no matter how rational you are, and how well you know that the probability can even be negligible—when the fear's got in you, and wrenching your gut, it just won't let go.

I'm glad I'm out of it. Thinking about working with AfA, but damn clumsy with my hands, so may not be able to help with doing the tests on people...
How about you?

Anyway, have a good weekend, bro!

Bro... even working wif AFA does not mean being just a counsellor, there are many other things that is offered... I do think those guys there deserve a donation for their selfless work!!

Big Sexy

14-08-2004, 02:41 PM

bro bongster i would like to compliment you on doing a good job on the HIV screening info thread as well.. keep it up! :D will add point for you too..

Bro... even working wif AFA does not mean being just a counsellor, there are many other things that is offered... I do think those guys there deserve a donation for their selfless work!!

thecas

16-08-2004, 03:19 AM

Bro perry, + yr pts when I can.

But if the rapid test is +ve, for the second test how much blood will they draw? Got girl here whose afraid of needles.

Also..like..why can't they sell the equipment for the first test?

IF YOU DO THE TEST ADMINISTERED BY THE AFA:-

1) If tested positive, they will draw a test sample to do another confirmatory test. Then they will ask the person who tested positive for ELISA Gen3 test (the rapid version of which is the one the AFA does on that day) to come back in one week's time to get the results for it. Only the number of the receipt is kept for collection and verification purposes. No name, IC no. etc.

If the confirmatory test comes back and the person is +ve, then the AFA counselor will give advice--have to seek treatment etc.

2) + 3) Then the +ve result is entered into database (maybe not even a computer, but a notebook, dunno) as one +ve result. So that when time comes for collation of data--they will give the figures to MOH. So whoever is tested and confirmed +ve, is just a statistic, or rather an overall statistic for the period/year.

Of course, if a person goes to the DSC Clinic and has the test done by DSC Clinic's doctors, or has it done at any GP or doctor in Singapore--then if that person is tested +ve, then all these doctors are required by law to inform the MOH, with the person's identity and all. And the person that is +ve is required by law to tell--in that, if that person has sex with another person without telling that other person that he/she is +ve, then that person is chargeable by law in a Singapore court.

perrymason32

16-08-2004, 01:36 PM

Thanks bros for the kind words. I do what I can, especially for those who went through, or are going through what I went through not too long ago. I know exactly what invades your mind when something like non-specific symptoms hit you, sui sui during the 2 to 3-week period after doing it with a hooker or worse, an FL. Suddenly simple skin problems, ulcers in the mouth, or slight fever assume monumental importance--because it could be the one! Then when in the midst of the symptoms, you go through the Web (thebody.com and other websites...) and your drug-addled mind kena attacked by negative thoughts and panic sets in...

It's horrible. So terrifying in fact that you would stop cheonging for a long time.

Anyway, thanks bros. Next time if you got contact for Jap or Ah Lian FL, pass to me, can? :D

OK, OK...Just kidding. But who knows. When the wallet is full again, courage and self-confidence is back to normal, my phone is going to be busy...heh heh heh...

perrymason32

16-08-2004, 01:42 PM

Good point bro bongster. I know, which is why I'm considering doing the other work for them. Aside from administering the test at Anonymous Testing, there's still counselling, and definitely got fundraising activities etc.

As for donations: yup, they need all the funding they can get. One way is to direct all your HIV testing to AfA's Anonymous Testing.

I'm not being flippant or joking here.

I don't know how much the test kit costs them, but have been told that it certainly doesn't cost them $20 each--so in a way, you'll be subsidising their kits. For people who are being tested, they get a test with absolute anonymity, at only $20.

So it's a win-win for the AfA and the person being tested--as far as the $ money goes with each test.

Bro... even working wif AFA does not mean being just a counsellor, there are many other things that is offered... I do think those guys there deserve a donation for their selfless work!!

perrymason32

16-08-2004, 02:00 PM

hi bro thecas:

Aiyah, points are nice. But if you got contact for a Jap who looks like Bunko Kanazawa or an Ah Lian who looks like Jeanette Aw, pass me, can? :D

Seriously, though. The first test is the ELISA. Because it is the rapid test kit used, it just means a drop of blood. The second test is the Western Blot (sorry, I didn't mention that earlier), which is not a rapid test, is a more sensitive test, and they need to draw a blood sample to send to a lab to run the test. As for sample size--I'm afraid, yes, they need to draw blood with a need--it's about as much as, say, when you go for other kinds of blood tests. About a vial, I think.

But don't jump the gun here with the girl. Take the rapid test first and only worry about the Western Blot when there's reason too. The reason for the Western Blot is confirmation of the ELISA test's result. The ELISA test is more likely to produce false positives (and just about never false negatives--so don't take a Western Blot after an ELISA -ve). Of course, these statements hold as long as the full Window period is observed (6 months).

In any case, if suay suay someone kena +ve on the ELISA, I don't think the size of the needle or how much blood is being drawn will the first thing on his/her mind. Whichever it is, worry only about getting the girl to do the ELISA first.

As for selling the rapid test kit. You mean the AfA? They can't do that. The healthcare providers in Singapore don't do that. Even the DSC Clinic doesn't do that.

But I do recall someone with a thread somewhere in this forum who said he had a lobang for buying/selling/distributing the rapid test kit here. I can't remember if it's like the Orasure kind (that tests scrapings or saliva from the mouth/tongue) or blood-based on like the one AfA uses. Maybe some other bros remember and can dig up the thread?

Bro perry, + yr pts when I can.

But if the rapid test is +ve, for the second test how much blood will they draw? Got girl here whose afraid of needles.

Also..like..why can't they sell the equipment for the first test?

MitMit

16-08-2004, 02:20 PM

I like to add one important point here regardring about Doc reporting to MOH if one tested +ve. Even if u got tested +ve in AFA, your identities might be withheld. But you will not be able to be given treatment unless ur identities are reported. Hence its a clever collabration between MoH and AFA. W/o Afa many may not dare to get tested. And if tested +ve u have no choice but to seek treatment.

perrymason32

16-08-2004, 02:38 PM

Hi bro MitMit:

(Yes, I'm still fighting the urge welling up in my didi to go get some FL action...But so far so good! My big head is keeping my smaller head under control...)

Anyway: Agreed. But there is a way around that, though not necessarily for everyone. (I won't mention if the AfA advocates this or is against it, so we'll just have to read between the lines...)

There's quite a trend among the HIV+ folks in Singapore who can afford it, to go overseas to get treated. Their closest, and preferred destination is Thailand. Preferred due to not just how close it is, but because the Thai government has been more aggressive in tackling the AIDS pandemic than other governments round the world--and this has meant a lot of good things done.

For one: Thailand has the only government-backed retroviral drug cocktail production, not sure if in the world, but certainly in Asia. Being generic (that is, unbranded) the drugs are sold quite cheap there (relative to prices elsewhere in the world, and certainly compared to prices in Singapore). So Singaporean HIV+ folks actually save money on drugs when seeking treatment over there.

Ironically: you have to have $ to make regular trips to Thailand for treatment, in order to get savings from treatment over the years. The poor, and the 9 to 5 office workers will have to have their savings depleted and even lose their livelihoods due to prejudice in the workplace after being exposed as being HIV+--will just have to suffer even worse, sooner.

I like to add one important point here regardring about Doc reporting to MOH if one tested +ve. Even if u got tested +ve in AFA, your identities might be withheld. But you will not be able to be given treatment unless ur identities are reported. Hence its a clever collabration between MoH and AFA. W/o Afa many may not dare to get tested. And if tested +ve u have no choice but to seek treatment.

thecas

16-08-2004, 05:37 PM

Yippy,+ the pts alreadi.

I visit cat tom yam only, so know know FL.

But a small bit of more info, if the ELISA test is +ve, for the WESTERN BLOT test do u need to come up wif more $ ?

perrymason32

16-08-2004, 05:50 PM

Hi bro thecas:

Thanks for the rep points but I'm not out for the points lah as much as... (More impt are the Japs who look like Bunko Kanazawa or Lians who look like Jeanette Aw!!!...hah hah hah <HINT, HINT>!!!)

OK, seriously lah. Anyway, most of the counselors will be happy that you only go to the 'licensed' GL hookers. Not the FLs.

As for having to pay for the Western Blot or not, I must admit I don't know for sure. Sorry about that. But I suspect that you may have to pay for it, especially since they have to send it off to a lab and back. Honestly, when the spectre of a life-threatening (and life-ruining in a place like Singapore) disease looms like that, I doubt Singapore $20 or even $50 will be the first thing on the mind at the moment it is announced a Western Blot confirmatory test is required. Know what I mean?

mustachio

16-08-2004, 06:00 PM

thecas

16-08-2004, 06:22 PM

How do I + points? I'd like to plus as much as i can for perry!

click on the balance scale at the top right.

To bro perry,

IC.. just wanted to c how much money to bring there :)

bongster

16-08-2004, 10:18 PM

click on the balance scale at the top right.

To bro perry,

IC.. just wanted to c how much money to bring there :)

Bro... rep points are not important to all of us.. most impt is to spread the message against the fight against this deadly virus... remember WEAR CONDOM HOR... :P

perrymason32

17-08-2004, 12:21 PM

hi bro mustachio:

thanks for the points and thanks for wanting to add some more points. but it's OK lah. no need. and besides, you have to spread the love around the forum before you can add more points to the same member again. from what I understand (I don't know the specific number so...) it would be about a lot of people or about a year or so till you can give points to the same person again.

what you can do is instead is help the bros who are going through what we went through along the way lor. BTW: I know you know more than I do. And that includes first-hand experience and knowledge of the psychological horrors brought out by the existence of such an evil virus as HIV I/II. So terrifying that it even scares to bits those who are not infected, or not even remotely going to kena.

spread the word, bro!

...I'd like to plus as much as i can for perry!

perrymason32

17-08-2004, 12:27 PM

Oh, that's why. I don't think it would be more than $20. I think if bring $50 total on that day should more than cover all expenses.

I'm sure if someone needs to take the second test, they'll be given money to cover it, if not from the AfA cashbox, then maybe the counselor will loan from his own pocket. Don't forget, have to come back for the second test results--so the person coming for the results can pay them back then.

Anyway, they're not heartless people lah. They'll find a way or even give the test for free. I shall ask them when I get the chance. But you ah, don't think about things like that lah. Get through the ELISA and you won't need a Western Blot.

IC.. just wanted to c how much money to bring there :)

thecas

09-09-2004, 03:48 PM

Bringing this thread up too..should not be lost too..or shld b a sticky..

collin_23

18-09-2004, 11:04 PM

Less than 30 bucks for simple tests. If go for urine smear etc + check for others may cost more. Just bring more money just in case. If 1st time bring not enough money, do not need to worry cause can always go another day. Maybe can ask the counter 1st for the cost.

Advice to people who r unclear as to whether they r suffering from anything to seek help asap. The process is actually quite simple and hassle free. Also, the people at DSC will not discriminate u at all unlike other places.

Do pluck up the courage to go in directly into the clinic. I have seen many guys pondering outside the clinic looking here and there, open the door but eventually still dare not go in for the check. Just want tot say there is nothing any different inside the clinic just like any polyclinic. Moreover, it is air-conditioned inside unlike the outside where it is heaty. If u have the intention to go in, just do it.

Cheers

ps: I was once like those guys pondering outside the DSC clinic, 'gey gey' open door see inside than walk away but I was glad I chose to go in for my checkup on that day. Thank god for giving me the courage and I hope that more people will pluck up the courage to care for themselves.

Early detection means early treatment. The end result is much of a mental than a physical. Trust me, think for your family and your loved ones. I in no postion to lecture anyone cause I did call prostitutes b4. Just here to help.

Oh, that's why. I don't think it would be more than $20. I think if bring $50 total on that day should more than cover all expenses.

I'm sure if someone needs to take the second test, they'll be given money to cover it, if not from the AfA cashbox, then maybe the counselor will loan from his own pocket. Don't forget, have to come back for the second test results--so the person coming for the results can pay them back then.

Anyway, they're not heartless people lah. They'll find a way or even give the test for free. I shall ask them when I get the chance. But you ah, don't think about things like that lah. Get through the ELISA and you won't need a Western Blot.

Jon_J

19-09-2004, 10:34 PM

I went there on wednesday night. paid $20 at the counter. fill in a form about age, sex preference, etc...

waited to be called and 'councior' asking questions like first time? safe sex, use condom, and six mths time window to detect any hiv virus in your blood stream.

after that wait outside to be called into another room. prick finger for blood test on a strip. and wait for twenty minutes outside.

i waited more than 20 minutes. they jumped to another number. Damn, like waiting for death sentencing.....

finally, called in to see the strip. one line on strip means the blood test is succesful. Lucky me. one line on strip only.

if two line on strip, means +ve.

Big Sexy

20-09-2004, 09:59 PM

Anonymous HIV checkup procedures at the DSC.

the procedure is simple... once u reach there

1. you will be required to fill up a form.... ( u can just Hamtam any particular into the form) and then pay $20...u will then be given a queue number..

2. wait for your queqe number to be called and then proceed for see the part-timer counselor( educator). they will ask u a simple questions abt your sex life and u can also ask them anything u want with regards to the test and the HIV virus.

3. After the test.. wait outside room 14, where u have to wait for your queue number to be call again... this time to take your blood test.. dont worry it is just a prick on the finger ...

4. afte they take your blood...just roam around or go to the nearby hawker center/ food court for a drink... come back in 15 mins time. wait outside the room where you went for your consulation... they will call you and give u the result.

that all... very simple and easy. Hope all is fine.... i will be going for my regular checkup this wed... if u want u can join me too.. :)

thecas

22-09-2004, 12:04 AM

But I read that the pple dun change gloves.. can u bring gloves for them to change into? I mean scarly they poke a +ve person b4 u. a bit blood on glove, touch your hand and on the same spot u kana poke. how?

KLGL

29-09-2004, 11:33 AM

Frankiestine

29-09-2004, 01:02 PM

:confused: was wanderin if 3mths if enough to detect any HIV virus?The highest risk encounter i had was raw oral sex(bbbj n pussy eating), but still wld like to play safe and go for the screen. i read about the 6 mths window period but some claim that 3 mths onwards the virus shld be able to b detected.

Confused,
KL

I understand the the 3 to 6 months window is to detect the virus....there is another test which I was told is to detect the antibodies to the virus....and this one requires shorter window period only a few weeks...as once a foreign bodies enters our system, the immune system will start producing antibodies against any possible infection....

jerrylimkk

29-09-2004, 11:08 PM

The 3 months test is actually looking for antibodies...Average people can have detected antibodies by 25-28 days..and 99% of the people by 6 weeks...This is the elisa test and is usually recommend for hiv screening..the window period of 3 months is actually very conservative...because people that have immune problems like cancer patients or IV drug users takes slightly longer than 6 weeks to produce antibodies..some states in US and WHO are using 6 weeks for elisa test..some countries like brazil, france, sweden and italy are using 8 weeks as the window period..The 6 months thing is completely outdated liao except for those that kanna needle stick injuries and those on PEP..Anti viral meds 72 hours after protential exposure..to kill off the virus before it spread..The 28 days test is call PCR dna or rna..it detects the actual virus instead of antibodies so 28 days neg is almost gurantee not infected...But this test is damn expensive $380 and it has a 1-2 % false positive...Imagine a person kanna a false positive but he is not infected..the virus haven kill him he already died of heart attack liao..

PS: 12 weeks window period

http://www.thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/SafeSex/Archive/Testing/Q146493.html

Big Sexy

04-10-2004, 12:46 AM

bro the one used in dsc is to detect the presence of antibodies.. only when the person is tested postive then they will do the virus test... :)

I understand the the 3 to 6 months window is to detect the virus....there is another test which I was told is to detect the antibodies to the virus....and this one requires shorter window period only a few weeks...as once a foreign bodies enters our system, the immune system will start producing antibodies against any possible infection....

ThaiG

07-10-2004, 06:00 PM

In fact i told them off twice and they assured me that there is no risk, but i am not convinced. We have every right to request them to change the glove and i will continue to ask them to. no doubt abt that. ;)

So in conclusion you ask them to change gloves and the agreed to your request? I don't want to appear too demanding on them. nvm

CNET

07-10-2004, 09:39 PM

this is a nice thread, thanks bro.

as for the changing of glove i think i will request also ,i dont want to go back home and then start worrying whether the glove got virus or not :D

Big Sexy

09-10-2004, 11:22 AM

dont worrry bro.. we have every right to request that.... so just exercise that rights... even thought it is quite safe without changing the glove... but like you said it... peace of mind mah:d

as for the changing of glove i think i will request also ,i dont want to go back home and then start worrying whether the glove got virus or not :D

jerrylimkk

09-10-2004, 09:37 PM

dont worrry bro.. we have every right to request that.... so just exercise that rights... even thought it is quite safe without changing the glove... but like you said it... peace of mind mah:d

Big sexy,

I just went down for a test today...they are quite automatic nowadays leh...they will change gloves for every client and also give handiplast liao...last time don't have one..

alex82

11-10-2004, 09:20 PM

hi bros,

What are the risks of contracting HIV and other std in mutual mastubration? :confused:

cheers

jerrylimkk

13-10-2004, 12:54 AM

hi bros,

What are the risks of contracting HIV and other std in mutual mastubration? :confused:

cheers

Very low risk..almost none...

1q2w3e

17-10-2004, 08:29 AM

jerrylimkk

17-10-2004, 04:41 PM

I just discovered that I got syphillis and herpes from a WL. R the chances of me geting HIV high cause I read the incubation period like 6 mths? I visit her many times last 2 mths. I just test no HIV but am I clear? Pls advice. Thank u. :(

The chances of getting HIV does increase if u have open sores from herpes or syphilis during the time u visit her...BTW did u use a condom?Then your risk is almost non existant if the condom did not break and do not have open sores from herpes during that exact time when u have sex..If u tested at 6 weeks u are almost free but for a offical neg u need to get tested at 12 weeks (3 months)..The 6 months crap is already old information liao...If a person takes more than 3 months to produce antibodies to HIV...He should be more worried about more serious unlying diseases than HIV that is cauing his immune to be so weak...

WOWKAOZ

17-10-2004, 07:09 PM

WOW just what i wanted to know
this thread is really useful many thanks:)

MitMit

18-10-2004, 01:01 AM

I just discovered that I got syphillis and herpes from a WL. R the chances of me geting HIV high cause I read the incubation period like 6 mths? I visit her many times last 2 mths. I just test no HIV but am I clear? Pls advice. Thank u. :(

The chance of HIV is higher if you got other STDs. May i know which WL you got it from. You may save many bros here.

sadsea

18-10-2004, 11:56 AM

I just discovered that I got syphillis and herpes from a WL. R the chances of me geting HIV high cause I read the incubation period like 6 mths? I visit her many times last 2 mths. I just test no HIV but am I clear? Pls advice. Thank u. :(

bro iq2w3e, u test negative for hiv of the period of 2 months right? that mean you r quite safe from affected this virus, as 2 months window period have 98% of accurate,( base on a website i had visit). if still worry then go after one month for the 3 months window period as the accurate is 100%. as for ur syphillis and herpes, please take the treatment and medicine accordly, take care and nice day.

jerrylimkk

18-10-2004, 10:37 PM

bro iq2w3e, u test negative for hiv of the period of 2 months right? that mean you r quite safe from affected this virus, as 2 months window period have 98% of accurate,( base on a website i had visit). if still worry then go after one month for the 3 months window period as the accurate is 100%. as for ur syphillis and herpes, please take the treatment and medicine accordly, take care and nice day.

I agree with sadsea also...if u tested neg at 2 months...u are already damn safe because many states in US and some europe countries are using 6 weeks - 8 weeks as window period...But please play safe at all times and wear a rubber...Have u read the sat edition of today? 23 singaporeans tested + for HIV for the first 6 months of this year...neverless,I wished you the best of health..take care..

HANDFUL

19-10-2004, 11:51 AM

i feel that sometimes, its the emotional stress that kills...
a true story( taken fr his diary ), fren of mine visisted a WL juz one time, in the process, Condom teared.
Weeks later, he had this urinary tract infection( increased need to pee which was remedied by his GP)then cough, fever n ulcers formed in his mouth.
he was scared like shit...
All arrangements was properly made, then he crashed his car big time, killing him instantly...
Blood test showed no alcohol. no drugs n thru contacts in the hospital, no disease, nothing at all :(

Maybe DSC should come out with some questionaire to evaluate the percentage of contact... but still, blood test is the safest

makop

19-10-2004, 12:06 PM

yeah but the problem for all this virus are much more difficult to detect than other virus since they need a window period, during this period it's already more than enough to tear those weakers one apart since they will live in fear that they might have contacted the virus but yet on the other hand they keep trying to comfort themselve that they might not be so unlucky.

HANDFUL

19-10-2004, 12:49 PM

yup, agree wif you...
Those not strong usually succumbs to depression even b4 the disease kills them... guess thats y the counsellers are there..

Wonder if anyone wants to share on strong tell tale signs...

read up abit after the loss of my fren....
Seems like the following are pretty obvious signs

1) Diarrhoea ( Lasting a week or more )
2) Weight loss
3) Swollen lymph glands

Disclaimer : I'm jus trying to share a true story n some symptoms i've read on the net. Might not be true, as some already infected do not show signs at all. But then again, these sign might not be what you feared the most.

born_mean

01-11-2004, 05:15 PM

To all bros,

I have some questions on HIV, but not on the disease itself but rather the rights of an individual with regards to HIV Testing.

My company (in banking sector) has recently switched its insurer and now all managerial staff are required to take HIV Test as an "underwriting requirement". I have checked with MOM and confirmed that we need not go for HIV Test. I have checked with the insurer and apparently this requirement is "negotiable", but must be done as a Group (since this is a Group Term Life Insurance).

My question is:

- can i refuse to do the HIV Test
- can i decline the "benefit" of this insurance coverage

BTW, i am HIV-negative (just did my test 2 weeks ago). Just concern about the blatant intrusive practise and whether fellow bros here can offer some advice how to handle such scenarios (or maybe some bros here also encountered these issues and may like to share).

I am not sure this is the right forum...so no offence just ignore this posting if so.

Cheers,
BM

makop

10-11-2004, 12:08 PM

just a question, we know that antibodies will be produced once HIV gets into our body and HIV reproduce by attaching themselve to the antibodies and multiply along with them so what happen if due to some genetic error, that this person does not has no ability to produce those antibodies?

correct me if i'm wrong just curious to find out.

Big Sexy

11-11-2004, 01:32 PM

bro.. i would like to think that you CAN refuse the test.... so long you can "tahan" other ppl with their tinted glass... :)

To all bros,

My question is:

- can i refuse to do the HIV Test
- can i decline the "benefit" of this insurance coverage

Cheers,
BM

Big Sexy

11-11-2004, 01:34 PM

hmm... if i am not wrong that will be the AID stage liao..so you got the answer.. :)

just what happen if person does not has no ability to produce those antibodies?

makop

11-11-2004, 01:40 PM

ermm if got answer then dun need ask liao ma just that i'm thinking since they can't replicate without the help of those antibodies that means the process for it to develop inot AIDS will be longer mah but then it's just my own conclusion lah.

Big Sexy

11-11-2004, 01:45 PM

bro... what i meant was if without the antibodies to fight the virus... they WILL get AID Faster.
ermm if got answer then dun need ask liao ma just that i'm thinking since they can't replicate without the help of those antibodies that means the process for it to develop inot AIDS will be longer mah but then it's just my own conclusion lah.

Dizzy_88

02-12-2004, 08:10 PM

Dear all,

We all know that using condoms is a must... But are you 100% confident in those ulu ulu brands condom? Will those lousy quality condoms fail easily?? :confused:

Dizzy_88

02-12-2004, 08:16 PM

Dear bros,

Are u confident in those ulu ulu brands condoms? :confused:

perrymason32

03-12-2004, 03:47 PM

I don't know if this is the right forum or not, and I don't care. I agree with you and think what you brought up is very important.

1) Legally you can refuse to do the HIV test. But 'can' you, really? I think in this kind of situation with this kind of company and in this kind of corporate environment and in this national environment—where you hear brought up contact tracing being used for containing the spread of HIV, and that we should be willing to part with the privacy of the infected for the sake of the majority, and where 'moral values' must be upheld and sexual promiscuity should be frowned on...—a refusal to do the test would raise eyebrows and having people wondering if you have it. I wouldn't be surprised if people lose their jobs if they refuse. Entire groups who refuse too would be let go.

2) Can you decline? I think that's for the company to decide. I don't see why not, since that means cutting costs—and we all know how important cutting costs is to companies, don't we?

To all bros,
............
My question is:

- can i refuse to do the HIV Test
- can i decline the "benefit" of this insurance coverage
.........

I am not sure this is the right forum...so no offence just ignore this posting if so.

Cheers,
BM

born_mean

07-12-2004, 05:33 PM

I don't know if this is the right forum or not, and I don't care. I agree with you and think what you brought up is very important.

1) Legally you can refuse to do the HIV test.... I wouldn't be surprised if people lose their jobs if they refuse. Entire groups who refuse too would be let go.

2) Can you decline? I think that's for the company to decide. I don't see why not, since that means cutting costs—and we all know how important cutting costs is to companies, don't we?

Thanks for your input.

With regards to point (1), my question then is can I sue the company for unfair dismissal if I can prove that my dismissal is a direct consequence of my refusal to take the test?

Ultimately, we as individuals have to protect our own rights. I may be idealistic but if I do not stand for my own rights, who will?! So far, I have not taken the test as requested (but privately I have gone for my testing, thank god is negative!!)...so I'm bracing myself for the "showdown" with the HR.

Honestly, I don't know when it comes to the crunch whether I will buckle...but my resolve is still strong.

To me, the issue here is the protection of privacy rights. Where do we draw the line ? When does "for the good of majority" ends and discrimination starts? Today we concede in HIV-Testing, tomorrow it may be some other tests. Soon, only a person with zero defects is considered HUMAN.

Just my 2 cents.

Cheers,
BM

perrymason32

08-12-2004, 05:28 PM

Theoretically you can sue the company for unfair dismissal, if you can show it is a direct consequence of refusing to take the test. But a number of things will get in your way, especially in Singapore. Most have to do with the grey areas. Three examples: the company can choose to dismiss you using some other excuse (like pile too much work on you or give you something you cannot do, then say they're letting you go because you cannot perform or whatever); the company can restructure, retrench, then rehire a month or two ago; the tribunal or court will throw out the case saying HIV+ people are bad for the company's staff morale and business and therefore the company has to exercise its right to protect itself or whatever, and therefore has the right to insist on its people taking the test, especially if they refuse to take it.

This is one of those situations where if you refuse to take the test, people will automatically think you have 'it'.

The protection of privacy rights in Singapore? I can only think of one example as proof of my suspicions on that subject. In Singapore, you cannot be naked in your own house/flat, but the freak who chooses to look into your house/flat when you're naked can report you to the police for public indecency. Your privacy is not protected (why is the freak looking into your house?); but the 'morals' of the majority are protected (assuming the majority of people are freaks who look into houses in search of naked people to report).

Conceding to HIV testing, that's not the first concession, and it won't be the last concession we make here, where individual rights to privacy and civil liberties will always lose to the rights of the often 'moral' 'majority'.

What to do, what to do...

....
With regards to point (1), my question then is can I sue the company for unfair dismissal if I can prove that my dismissal is a direct consequence of my refusal to take the test?
....
To me, the issue here is the protection of privacy rights. Where do we draw the line ? When does "for the good of majority" ends and discrimination starts? Today we concede in HIV-Testing, tomorrow it may be some other tests. Soon, only a person with zero defects is considered HUMAN.
....
Cheers,
BM

born_mean

09-12-2004, 09:57 AM

This is one of those situations where if you refuse to take the test, people will automatically think you have 'it'.

Conceding to HIV testing, that's not the first concession, and it won't be the last concession we make here, where individual rights to privacy and civil liberties will always lose to the rights of the often 'moral' 'majority'.

What to do, what to do...

Well put bro....well all I can do now is to wait for the inevitable showdown.......

Worst case scenario for me?....get the sack and maybe time to strike out on my own (have always wanted to but am too chicken...may be a blessing in disguise hahahhahah)

Thanks for your input. Cheers.

thecas

09-12-2004, 11:51 AM

A question..

When we go for testing, if we have a partner with us can we go to the rooms together, see the results, test together etc? coz we will b scared :)

perrymason32

09-12-2004, 05:24 PM

born_mean

09-12-2004, 06:29 PM

Well, that's one way to look at it. But bro, why not just take it anyway, since you're already negative.

Reason I'm asking you to reconsider is fighting to protect your right to privacy in Singapore etc—that's not a thing you expect to do. Maybe in another country. Not here, and I would say not in most Asian countries, and quite a number of white people countries and other places round the globe...but that's another point. Point is it's not worth it. Never been worth it in Singapore. Least worth it now because the economy is not going to be better next year.

So tread carefully.

Keep safe.

Bro...I know where you are coming from and I appreciate your concern.

I'm not being "noble" and I understand ultimately reality bites. So often we give up on our beliefs and principles because it is less painful, more pragmatic, socially acceptable etc etc. I used to think the same way...but this HIV-Testing issue hits me hard and made me realised that by giving up on my beliefs and principles, I am giving up on myself. My rights as an individual (not just privacy rights but others such as freedom of speech and so forth) happens to be my core belief. All these years of conforming at the expense of erosion of my own humanity is really eating into me. Sometimes I wake up not knowing who I am anymore. Just a zombie going to work, conforming and faceless. I am not suffering from some manic-depression but I feel that I'm begining to lose sight of who I am anymore.

I know the path I choose will be arduous, ridden with pitfalls and treacherous....many would even label me a fool. Maybe, I will get knocked so often that I eventually give up and just conform. But I want to have made a stand.......at least once. This is my own individual fight....not some macho-change-the-society grand plan.

Life should not be just about making a living....but more about living the way you should. Then again, this will really be a test of my resolve and character. Do I have the stomach to go through with this? Or is this just plain talk?

I will know what I'm made of soon.........

Cheers,
BM (A Fool.....maybe)

perrymason32

10-12-2004, 10:39 AM

Yes, if you go for the AfA Anonymous Testing, you can go to the rooms together, have the counseling and testing done together, and get the results and counseling together.

....When we go for testing, if we have a partner with us can we go to the rooms together, see the results, test together etc?....

Big Sexy

10-12-2004, 12:36 PM

are you a male or female? i once organise a trip to the centre for a few bro here.. not too long ago...... thinking of doing another one... u want to come along?

Dont post your reply here... if you wish to remain anonymous ... just pm me.. :D

A question..

When we go for testing, if we have a partner with us can we go to the rooms together, see the results, test together etc? coz we will b scared :)

Big Sexy

10-12-2004, 12:39 PM

bro seems like you already made your mind up. wish you well then :)

I know the path I choose will be arduous, ridden with pitfalls and treacherous....many would even label me a fool. Maybe, I will get knocked so often that I eventually give up and just conform. But I want to have made a stand.......at least once. This is my own individual fight....

born_mean

10-12-2004, 05:08 PM

bro seems like you already made your mind up. wish you well then :)

Thanks bro....happy holidays. :)

thecas

10-12-2004, 11:16 PM

are you a male or female? i once organise a trip to the centre for a few bro here.. not too long ago...... thinking of doing another one... u want to come along?

Dont post your reply here... if you wish to remain anonymous ... just pm me.. :D

Me not sure yet.. but just 2 cents, if wanna go, tis better 2 wks later, say, 22nd Dec. Coz heard that theres a crowd recently due to all the focus on MSM/HIV.

Also, if I always do with cap on, and no slippage occur(like cd slip off etc) is it even necessary to test?

GreenHorny

22-12-2004, 09:59 AM

Hi...all dear bros...btw where is the exact locations for such testing as in Afa clinics?

Sword

23-12-2004, 07:49 PM

Hi...all dear bros...btw where is the exact locations for such testing as in Afa clinics?

Hello,

U can refer to my signature for the location of this Anonymous HIV Testing.

Thanks.......

Big Sexy

31-12-2004, 02:48 PM

bro so how was your test? hope you are Ok..

Me not sure yet.. but just 2 cents, if wanna go, tis better 2 wks later, say, 22nd Dec. Coz heard that theres a crowd recently due to all the focus on MSM/HIV.

Also, if I always do with cap on, and no slippage occur(like cd slip off etc) is it even necessary to test?

thecas

31-12-2004, 05:12 PM

Not yet..lazy..but will soon :)

thecas

31-12-2004, 08:32 PM

Now then think of it.. for the anonymous testing is it possible to ask for a mini-certification or note at the end? For purposes such as in future showing GF or company tat u dun hav hiv?

sunnyboy26

05-01-2005, 10:52 AM

Big Sexy

06-01-2005, 12:57 PM

sunnyboy....

read the first few pages of this thread.....BBJ and kissing both put you are risk of getting HIV, though not in the high risk category. ;) As for whether you should do a HIV check... yes i would encourage it..

just a question. Do you think a bare BJ (no condom) has high chance to get HIV. If so, then french kissing is no different too. I did once (bare bj) only and quite worry over it. The rest are all intercourse with condoms. Should i check?

sunnyboy26

06-01-2005, 01:11 PM

Thanks Bro Big sexy for your advise. Will go for check up in 3 months time to clear all worries.

Horny07

07-01-2005, 05:49 PM

just a question. Do you think a bare BJ (no condom) has high chance to get HIV. If so, then french kissing is no different too. I did once (bare bj) only and quite worry over it. The rest are all intercourse with condoms. Should i check?

Have the same problem as him...but tats juz a few days ago...wanted to check..but saw the previous thread...knew that the window period is 3 months later...so how should i check now or wait...till the window..??
Pls advice

Big Sexy

09-01-2005, 03:48 PM

no pro bro.. you are most welcome :)

Thanks Bro Big sexy for your advise. Will go for check up in 3 months time to clear all worries.

Big Sexy

09-01-2005, 03:52 PM

thecas

09-01-2005, 08:13 PM

Yippy, I had and passed the test. I had thought tat the fingerprick will b painful, but the pain factor was absolutely 0%.

Big Sexy

14-01-2005, 09:44 AM

glad you are alright....:)

Yippy, I had and passed the test. I had thought tat the fingerprick will b painful, but the pain factor was absolutely 0%.

thecas

14-01-2005, 02:38 PM

Actually, funny, they emphasized no bringing back of the test strip.

Its good to hav something certify u r HIV-. Y? mayb easier to get ONS :cool:

Big Sexy

15-01-2005, 05:21 PM

bro...you went for the anonymous testing right??????? if so then......there is no point in getting back the strip... it doesnt help us prove a thing.. we didnt have our name registered in the first place. :)
secondly... today dont have... doesnt mean tomorrow(future) dont have...
thirdly it does more harm than good when you show it to your partner...it only prove you are gulity of some achieve.

Actually, funny, they emphasized no bringing back of the test strip.

Its good to hav something certify u r HIV-. Y? mayb easier to get ONS :cool:

Big Sexy

16-01-2005, 08:32 AM

paiseh i mean mischief, not achieve :)

it only prove you are gulity of some achieve.

kagemusha

17-01-2005, 03:01 PM

Yippy, I had and passed the test. I had thought tat the fingerprick will b painful, but the pain factor was absolutely 0%.

Bro before u went for ur test, were u considred to have a high or low risk exposure?? I'm just worried cos i've been cheonging for 2 years now but always use condoms for sex and Bj. Want to take the test but damn scared. Fingering with a cut on the finger, how much risk is in it??

Big Sexy

17-01-2005, 03:06 PM

beef up man.. go for the checkup.. believe me the mental torture is many time worst... it will break down the toughest person..

Bro before u went for ur test, were u considred to have a high or low risk exposure?? I'm just worried cos i've been cheonging for 2 years now but always use condoms for sex and Bj. Want to take the test but damn scared. Fingering with a cut on the finger, how much risk is in it??

kagemusha

17-01-2005, 07:56 PM

beef up man.. go for the checkup.. believe me the mental torture is many time worst... it will break down the toughest person..

what do u think my risks are?

fwl18

17-01-2005, 10:18 PM

beef up man.. go for the checkup.. believe me the mental torture is many time worst... it will break down the toughest person..

Yes i agree with Big Sexy.. i almost went insane these few days....lose alot of sleep too..damn..

i try only one FL before, bbbj for a few mins den decided to ask her put on condom den bj. FJ was also wth condom.. been thinking too much these days...

just now went raffles medical clinic near my house for a HIV/VDI check.. 59.50... will know results in around 3 days...

VERY GAN JIONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sadsea

17-01-2005, 10:44 PM

u will be all right, don't worry too much. i have gone through tis hiv/vd test for a few time also. hope after getting ur result u can stop receiving bbbj. nice day.

Big Sexy

19-01-2005, 03:57 PM

paiseh... didnt see your post...

you should be under the low to medium risk... dont worry to much la...go for checkup is the most practical way to remove your worries... :)

what do u think my risks are?

Big Sexy

19-01-2005, 03:58 PM

wish u well bro...:)

Yes i agree with Big Sexy.. i almost went insane these few days....lose alot of sleep too..damn..

i try only one FL before, bbbj for a few mins den decided to ask her put on condom den bj. FJ was also wth condom.. been thinking too much these days...

just now went raffles medical clinic near my house for a HIV/VDI check.. 59.50... will know results in around 3 days...

VERY GAN JIONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fwl18

19-01-2005, 06:11 PM

wish u well bro...:)

thanks sadsea and big sexy...
i just got my report... -ve
very fast get the report liao i must say

hm.. think its time to think of my gf and family and not fool around anymore...
=)

kagemusha

20-01-2005, 05:55 PM

what's bbbj??

sadsea

20-01-2005, 10:08 PM

congrat bro, sound like u want to retire from commerical sex scene, hope u can make it, if really really cannot , please still don't forget the key word 'safe sex', but the best is still avoid the commercial scene, nice day.

Big Sexy

20-01-2005, 10:14 PM

congrat.....be with your family..... dont just think about them...family comes first..:)

thanks sadsea and big sexy...
i just got my report... -ve
very fast get the report liao i must say

hm.. think its time to think of my gf and family and not fool around anymore...
=)

Big Sexy

20-01-2005, 10:15 PM

dont be lazy go check it out..on sam's main page what's bbbj??

jonah11

22-01-2005, 01:21 PM

Brothers, I know this is a silly question but I still feel like asking for the comfort of my heart. Does smelling a pussy covered with underwear pose a risk for HIV transmission? And also does smelling a worn underwear pose a risk for HIV transmission? All these were done for about 30 to 40 minutes. Please advise and thanks for your comfort.

Big Sexy

22-01-2005, 03:15 PM

I know this is a silly question - YES

Does smelling a pussy covered with underwear pose a risk for HIV transmission? - NO

And also does smelling a worn underwear pose a risk for HIV transmission? -NO

Brothers, I know this is a silly question but I still feel like asking for the comfort of my heart. Does smelling a pussy covered with underwear pose a risk for HIV transmission? And also does smelling a worn underwear pose a risk for HIV transmission? All these were done for about 30 to 40 minutes. Please advise and thanks for your comfort.

jericho123456

26-01-2005, 11:20 PM

if u ask me.. i will say....wait till 3 months later ( but i know alot of bro.. who cant wait till 3 months...) ... Yes... it is gonna be a very difficult 3 months... just have to bear with it... and check again 6 month later... if you are clear then......that mean u are really safe.. :)

You don?t need a 6 months test for a BJ. Singapore is making the whole world laugh about their guidelines. Below are some of the guidelines from various governments around the world and see their recommendation for testing. Current test are so sensitive that they can pick up antibodies as early as 21 days. Do a search on Professor Brian Gazzard (He is one of the top HIV researcher in UK) and this is what he says about HIV testing. http://hivworkshop.com/hiv_testing.htm
I really can?t believe that these governments would want to put their citizens into danger of such a deadly virus by telling them a test at 3 months is okie.

The rapid test which dsc use is exactly what WHO, UK and this STD clinic in Netherlands is using. They recommend 3 months as well.

http://www.aidsmap.com/en/news/E01CBDA1-3FA6-4670-81AE-38F706BAACC2.asp

http://www.hivnet.org/HVN/Organisatie/Checkpoint%20Engels/Checkpoint3.htm

After reading all these, the bottom line is sillypore donno anything about this. Read this article.

http://www.fridae.com/aboutus/news041115.php
?Responding to Senior Minister of State for Health Balaji Sadasivan's call for the CDC to do more in Aids prevention and tackle an 'alarming Aids epidemic' here, Dr Leo said yesterday that the CDC did not have the expertise to do the job right now, as its focus had always been treatment rather than prevention.?

From UK

http://www.youchoose.org.uk/#

http://www.hivgum.demon.co.uk/victoria/victoriatesting.html

http://www.roehamptonclinic.com/hiv_services.htm

http://www.show.scot.nhs.uk/gghb/PubsReps/Reports/nhsgg_hiv_report.pdf

http://www.hivgum.demon.co.uk/mw2/general/hiv_2004.pdf

http://www.gumnewcastle.nhs.uk/page.asp?id=1002

From Australia

http://www.sesahs.nsw.gov.au/albionstcentre/Information/HIV_faq.asp

http://www.stdservices.on.net/std/hiv-aids/details.htm

http://www.ashm.org.au/uploadFile/jc_april%20issue.pdf

From USA

http://www.hivguidelines.org/public_html/center/clinical-education/q-and-a/update.htm

http://gmhc.org/hotline/ask/testing_period.html

From Canada

http://www.city.toronto.on.ca/health/aids_resources/pdf/hiv_antibody_test.pdf

From Malaysia

http://202.186.86.35/health/story.asp?file=/2004/12/5/health/9570047&sec=Health

From WHO

w3.whosea.org/LinkFiles/Training_ Materials_voluntary-module2-5-2.pdf

From Hong ####

http://www.info.gov.hk/aids/harmreduction/english/4_2.htm

Big Sexy

28-01-2005, 06:49 PM

yeap Sg may be lacking behind... but then what do you expect them to do then???? buy a air ticket and fly to other country to check whether they have HIV???? KAOZ...

[QUOTE=jericho123456] Below are some of the guidelines from various governments around the world and see their recommendation for testing. http://hivworkshop.com/hiv_testing.htm
I QUOTE]

jericho123456

28-01-2005, 09:50 PM

[QUOTE=Big Sexy]yeap Sg may be lacking behind... but then what do you expect them to do then???? buy a air ticket and fly to other country to check whether they have HIV???? KAOZ...

bro big sexy, the purpose of my post is not to discredit you. hope u understand. Just to let fellow forumers know the exact guidelines. I remembered during 1998 when USA is using 6 months, sillypore is still using the old guidelines from 1985 which is 1 year. A friend of mine was told by dsc to keep testing until he show positive and eventually he kept on testing out to 3 years. Recently I've spoken to a volunteer in sillypore and they told me a 6 months test is necessary because asians have weaken immune thus take longer to produce antibodies. I was thinking that Asians haven kanna hiv immune already weaken liao, if kanna liao sure die. I doubt it and call the help lines in canada, malaysia and hong #### and what they told me is that any human being whether american, european, african, asians will produce antibodies when infected and the window period remains the same. The canadian health worker told me that they have a large population of asians there and they recommend 3 months to them as well, and canada is known to have one of the best healthcare service in the world. They told me that they used to recommend 6 months long time back but changed to 3 months since 1997 because nobody taken longer than 3 months. I decided to write in to Professor David Cooper from university of NSW which is also the head of australian HIV vaccine research and he told me that australia has been using 3 months since 1980s.

The virus do not know where you stay so it doesn't matter where you get tested. The test equipment use here is exactly what they use in england, australia, hong ####, malaysia. A person testing in sillypore is not consider definitive at 3 months but his result is conclusive the moment he crosses the causeway to JB. For example, a british working in sillypore or a sillyporean working in new york, which guideline should they follow? So for people testing, it is just on who's opinion you value. whether sillypore or what the rest of the world is saying.

Big Sexy

29-01-2005, 05:24 AM

No problem with your statment...:) but r u 100% sure the HIV test kit they use in UK is similar to the one in sg??

hmm.. also on the point that your friend was told to keep on testing for HIV for 3 years....not to doubt you.... but i really dont think DCS is so cockup..
i have been there many time for the check up since about 3 years back and was told eery time to use 3-6 month as a guideline. 3 month being 99.5% sure ... and 6 month to be 100% sure.. never was i told to continue to test for more than a year...

bro big sexy, the purpose of my post is not to discredit you. hope u understand. Just to let fellow forumers know the exact guidelines. I remembered during 1998 when USA is using 6 months, sillypore is still using the old guidelines from 1985 which is 1 year. A friend of mine was told by dsc to keep testing until he show positive and eventually he kept on testing out to 3 years. Recently I've spoken to a volunteer in sillypore and they told me a 6 months test is necessary because asians have weaken immune thus take longer to produce antibodies.

The virus do not know where you stay so it doesn't matter where you get tested. The test equipment use here is exactly what they use in england, australia, hong ####, malaysia. A person testing in sillypore is not consider definitive at 3 months but his result is conclusive the moment he crosses the causeway to JB. For example, a british working in sillypore or a sillyporean working in new york, which guideline should they follow? So for people testing, it is just on who's opinion you value. whether sillypore or what the rest of the world is saying.

jericho123456

29-01-2005, 08:18 AM

No problem with your statment...:) but r u 100% sure the HIV test kit they use in UK is similar to the one in sg??

hmm.. also on the point that your friend was told to keep on testing for HIV for 3 years....not to doubt you.... but i really dont think DCS is so cockup..
i have been ther
e many time for the check up since about 3 years back and was told eery time to use 3-6 month as a guideline. 3 month being 99.5% sure ... and 6 month to be 100% sure.. never was i told to continue to test for more than a year...

the test used are exactly what they use in UK and Netherlands.Anyone who been there for the test should recognised it.

http://www.pmtctdonations.org/en/products/determine.aspx

http://www.aidsmap.com/en/news/E01C...8F706BAACC2.asp

http://www.hivnet.org/HVN/Organisatie/Checkpoint%20Engels/Checkpoint8.htm

Other lab test from singapore labs are 3rd generation elisas consist of the abbott AXSYM, PRISM or IMX..

Actually nothing in medical is 100% ..doctors will just tell u a test at 6 months is over 99% and u are damn safe. Weird things happens so there is no gurantee in anything.Throughout the 20 + years, there are only 2 cases of seroconverting after 3 months..1 at 9 months and another at 12 months..But these are Health Care Worker that kanna needle stick injuries..so even if a person is a odd case out of millions..a 6 months test is also not always gurantee safe.

http://www.thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/SafeSex/Archive/Other/Q155156.html

I've checked with a specialist from John Hopkins University and was told that a 6 months test is necessary is the person is being put on PEP which are antiretroviral drugs to help prevent infection if a person has a high risk. those drugs might delayed seroconversion. The french scientist Luc Montaigner who isolate both strains of the virus stated that the longer seroconversion he ever seen is 77 days. Read the book "the man and the virus" c 1994.

Also read this article if interested. From the australian government. there are some interesting facts about the window period. On the bottom of the article.

http://www.ashm.org.au/uploadFile/jc_april%20issue.pdf

sadsea

29-01-2005, 03:25 PM

hi everyone, just sharing fro my trip today to afa hiv test.

downstair renovation so proceed to 2nd floor follow two malay gals. paid 20 bucks ,wait a while see concellor miss anglene an ang mo nice lady. ask me what the main reason coming for tis test, told her one exploure made me feel uncomfortable, one very fine day go hc and hj by one lady, think i too long not coming she pop her finger into my ass and i cum immediately. my story end here and she conti her advise, said i shouldn't worry, it is fine as no juice exchange. i told her i know but the uncomfortable feeling still there, just came for clarify, ( my heart also think can share this at tis forum after the test), so usual go out go into another room for blood test, then after a few minutes call by miss anglene, give me a great smile before enter the room, told me the result and ask me not to worry anymore, she told me if worry during sex no point at all, she told me sex is very importance in life so do not have unnecessary worry, and the last but not least she told me to practice safe sex at all time, use CONDOM. very nice lady to talk to, during the concelling i keep on looking onto her long kang( sibei chee kou). after that go home and tell myself got to retire liao( this the 7th time i told myself).

above just a sharing, just hope bro go regular check up or test if u active or semi active in commerical sex, it just a responsible to know ur own status, it is good for everybody. infact i think it is a good deed to bring courage to go for check or test. take care everyone, nice day.

Big Sexy

29-01-2005, 03:39 PM

u very naughty...

very nice lady to talk to, during the concelling i keep on looking onto her long kang( sibei chee kou).

be gone

30-01-2005, 12:31 AM

Hi all,

feeling paranoid over the past 2 days and finally went for the hiv test on Sat.
These two days have been the longest of my life. Wasn't able to concentrate in the office and thinking of a lot of things. Once I am back home, I would spend hours seaching for information on hiv and looking back if I had any obvious symptons back then.Btw, my last dangerous exposure was somewhere in Feb last year

It's really killing me as each second was like days, each minute was like months and each hour was like years to me. I was going insane. I realise that should the worst happened, it will be a situation that I cannot handle and definitely I will just break down.

Went up to the second floor, paid $20, fill up a form and waited. Meet up with angela and told her my dangerous encounters, 1 count of unprotected sex and 1 count of a condom breakage. Told her of my mental state is very unstable and it's killing me because this one test, the result will be conclusive, either it's a sure positive or a sure negativeve since I have fulfilled the window period. There is no more a second chance.

Got a small prick on the middle finger and drip a drop of blood on the test strip. Went back outside the waiting area, as I await my sentence to be passed on me. To me, it's already a fxxx feeling to be judged by others and I feel even worse when I know I may be put on death row within 10-15 minutes.

My number was called up! Time's up I guess, the moment of truth will soon befall on me. Will I be truly reborn or truly be gone. What am i going to tell my loved ones? Will I just break donw and go insane? These are some of the thoughts that went through my mind.

It's angela again and she told me, I am safe and I can step out of here and have a peace of my mind.

Life is already short so don't make it shorter,
Life is precious to lose to a damn virus.

My message to brothers, wear a condom before your didi go cheong in the public toilet since he wouldn't (and neither will you) know the type of enemy he encounter in the public toilet.

After this ordeal, a though came to me and say: why not let those newbies who wanted to start cheonging go through the hiv testing experience so that end of the day, they will be aware of the stress level they have to go through and the courage they have to muster to go for the test.

Only then will they be more clear of what they are getting themslves into the commercial sex scence. Just hope that it's not just joy, pleasure and your didi feels shiok that one is getting into when he goes into commercial sex, but also the stress and phobia that one has to cope as well. If you can't you would have gone insane while waiting to go for the first test (3 month window) and then a second round (for the the 6 month period.)Only then the results will be very much concclusive.

qbdp

30-01-2005, 02:14 AM

It's angela again and she told me, I am safe and I can step out of here and have a peace of my mind.

Life is already short so don't make it shorter,
Life is precious to lose to a damn virus.

My message to brothers, wear a condom before your didi go cheong in the public toilet since he wouldn't (and neither will you) know the type of enemy he encounter in the public toilet.

After this ordeal, a though came to me and say: why not let those newbies who wanted to start cheonging go through the hiv testing experience so that end of the day, they will be aware of the stress level they have to go through and the courage they have to muster to go for the test.

bro...first of all i would like to congratulate you on the negative test result.

you used the term 'public toilet'.

in our real world, we have a choice to use and pay for the public toilets when one has real nature calls. our hands are not twisted neither do we have knives pointed at us forcing us to use them. it is one's call to decide whether he wants to use the public or home toilets.

are you referring the girls in the trade and maybe ONS ladies as 'public toilets'? if you are, dont you think its derogating/degrading to use this term on them? especially now that you have tested negative and the world's weight is off your shoulders.

be gone

30-01-2005, 09:22 AM

qbdp

30-01-2005, 09:46 AM

Bro qpdp,

I apologize for my choice of words. Next time I will use a better choice of words..my ang moh not too good. I hope that my intention of good will is not mistaken by brothers here. I only hope that my experience would be a reminder for the people reading this forum.

Peace.

bro be gone

i fully understand your good intention to encourage bros in the forum to go for the test. this is commendable. and the same goes to bros who always encourage the same.

no worries. no feelings harm.

cheers!

KLGL

06-02-2005, 08:32 AM

thecas

06-02-2005, 11:28 AM

Yes, its detectable... untill perhapd the aids stage when immune system is crippled

nickwch

06-02-2005, 08:09 PM

hi all,

i have a qn, is the antibodies still detectable after the window period of 6 mths(frm the last encounter)?

i did a test on the 3rd and 4th mths and cleared it, cant help but to worry.
highest risk taken was raw oral, bonking capped.

sigh,
KLGL

Oral even raw is still consider low risk. U tested till 4th mth is a very gd indication. Most countries test till 3 mth. Dun worry so much and enjoy the holidays.

Happy CNY brudders.

sunnyboy26

08-02-2005, 11:58 PM

after reading what you guys posted, I just have to say that once you decided to go for sex and can't stop this urge. You should be prepare for HIV even if you have protection with condoms. if you got bad luck and you got Aids, just have to face it and say to yourself. It's your own life, you created this shit and you deserve to face this shit.

adrian76

18-02-2005, 01:13 AM

Hi had some quirey in my mind.. hope you all can help.. :)

1. if i bring the bar gal for a checkup and the test show that she was free from HIV or STD.. what the risk of getting any of the virus if we had raw sex??

Big Sexy

18-02-2005, 06:00 PM

unless u can make sure that she have no sex for 3 month before u send her for the HIV check up.... it defeat the purpose of the whole checkup.. :)

and i really doubt the bar gal will agree to let you check her for a check up..:)

Hi had some quirey in my mind.. hope you all can help..

1. if i bring the bar gal for a checkup and the test show that she was free from HIV or STD.. what the risk of getting any of the virus if we had raw sex??

adrian76

19-02-2005, 02:09 AM

unless u can make sure that she have no sex for 3 month before u send her for the HIV check up.... it defeat the purpose of the whole checkup.. :)

and i really doubt the bar gal will agree to let you check her for a check up..:)

Thanks for the help.. had raise this question is because my fren had sex with a bar gal with condem but half way thru the gal remove his condem and given no choice he do it raw... after that the gal tell her she just went for check up... she was free from any virus... my fren a bit scare scare so i help him to posted here to check...btw that means if we had raw and after that i bring the gal for check up... the check up didnt show any sign of virus.. i will still be infected because it take 3 month before they are able to detect the virus it is??

Great appericate your advise

Big Sexy

19-02-2005, 04:14 PM

yeap.. u still might get HIV..... but as far as i know.. Bar girls are not required to go for checkup, unlike those legalise WL in geylang.

btw that means if we had raw and after that i bring the gal for check up... the check up didnt show any sign of virus.. i will still be infected because it take 3 month before they are able to detect the virus it is??

Great appericate your advise

Lycos

21-02-2005, 12:42 AM

Hi all bros, need to ask. If we pay the $20 at DSC, besides saying if we have aids, does it gives resulls on whether we have contracted STD too?

Pls advice?

collin_23

21-02-2005, 10:07 AM

If u go for the anonymous testing it checks for HIV only at 20 dollars. Whereas if u go to DSC and register daytime for a syphillis/HIV check u will pay think is 22 or 28 in total and have to wait 1 week for your result whereby u have to revisit DSC for your syphillis/HIV result.

20 dollars does not check for other contracted stds.

Hi all bros, need to ask. If we pay the $20 at DSC, besides saying if we have aids, does it gives resulls on whether we have contracted STD too?

Pls advice?

beckham

26-02-2005, 12:55 AM

one question big bros...hope you guys dont mind...

let say there is a case...

you got ulcer in your mouth and you do normal kissing...and the girl got no ulcer...but her saliva contact with your ulcer...will you get HIV in this way if she is infected??

sorry for the ignorant question...hope you guys wont mind...

Big Sexy

28-02-2005, 12:44 AM

i think there is a thread on this already... Anyway.. to answer your question... the risk is there but very low..:)

one question big bros...hope you guys dont mind...
let say there is a case...
you got ulcer in your mouth and you do normal kissing...and the girl got no ulcer...but her saliva contact with your ulcer...will you get HIV in this way if she is infected??

sorry for the ignorant question...hope you guys wont mind...

FRANK77

09-03-2005, 08:34 PM

Oral even raw is still consider low risk. U tested till 4th mth is a very gd indication. Most countries test till 3 mth. Dun worry so much and enjoy the holidays.

Happy CNY brudders.

To all bro samsters

I know a lot about HIV- esp HIV transmission facts. You can call me the doctor from now on. I Know quite a lot about STD's as well but it is in different thread.

I know that a lot of questions and uncertain regarding Oral sex and whether it is dangerous and can transmit HIV. I know that a lot of bros have tried to provide some answers but none has complete pictures. Let me try to enighten all the bros.

I love raw oral sex , the feeling is great. In a good hand, the feeling can be heaven. But how safe is it actually?

ORAL SEX AND THE RISK OF HIV TRANSMISSION

In this thread, I will discuss only FELLATIO- Men Penis into mouth (commonly called BJ). Hehehe has to be exact so no confusion. Oral sex has other types, you should know .

The very first reason why oral sex is a grey area , is because YES, even the expert can not calculate the real risk! You dont believe? Experts are still debating hotly on AIDS FORUM, to answer HOW MUCH RISK is actually oral sex. Why?

It is because first FELLATIO (Men penis inside women mouth - in case you dont know!!) is a very low risk sex activity. but under theoritical science, there is still risk of contracting the virus.

For Fellatio, you deal with:
1. SALIVA. Saliva has very low concentration of HIV virus. The amount of HIV virus in saliva is considered NEGLIGIBLE for infecting. Experts do not consider Saliva as a fluid that is dangerous. . Moreover, saliva has very interesting features . Saliva has certain contents peroxidases and thrombospondin-1. This PEROXIDASES actually is able to bind HIV virus and make them as a clump. Which means that the Virus are binded together and make them too heavy and ineffective to infect other cells. Thats why experts believe that saliva is safe but take note that the HIV virus is still present, even though the amount is NEGLIGIBLE FOR INFECTION.

2. BLOOD. Now the twists in your life. ;) It is to note that Human gums or your partner mouth and gums who is doing the good thing to your didi. Your partner gums can bleed. Human gums can bleed. For some people also have gum diseases. This further pushed the risk higher. Gum diseases mean the gums are easlily bleed and this can be dangerous. Note that Blood has the highest concentration of HIV VIRUS. It is the most potent for infection. There is another but. But, remember , the saliva has the interesting contents? Yes! It will help to make this virus ineffective. So the question will be, depend on how much blood right?

Correct, The risk of infection goes higher if there is blood present in the mouth during the fellatio. It even goes much higher if there is actually more blood.

So what do you do? Check your girl if she bleeds and check if she has gum diseases? Not that easy. It is difficult to pinpoint whether your partner has gum diseases. You must be a dentist in order to do that or must be trained to be able to tell from visual inspection.

CENTRE OF DISEASE CONTROL AND PREVENTION

How the experts in the world view the Fellatio ? Even them are divided in their policy.

1. AMERICAN CDC (CENTRE OF DISEASE CONTROL AND PREVENTION)
This is the most authoritative government body for Virus control. They have the power to seal an entire city if there is outbreak occurs. Much like in the movie Outbreak. American CDC is considered by many as the most leading body for HIV information. American CDC states in their policy that ORAL SEX IS NOT CONSIDERED AS SAFE SEX. Although CDC acknowledges that oral sex is a low risk sex activity, they do not consider oral sex as safe sex and this includes Fellatio and insertive fellatio- all types of oral sex is not considered safe. www.cdc.gov

2. Canadian CDC and Japan is slightly different. For Canada, some types of oral sex are categorized as safe sex. Canadaian CDC do not include Oral sex as a risk sex . But they do not promote oral sex either. There is some caution that Canada use but they do not believe that some types oral sex is a risk.

DIRECT QUOTATIONS FROM (http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca) --> canadian equal for CDC.

"The Canadian AIDS Society (CAS) currently classifies insertive fellatio between men, or between women and men, as having a negligible risk of HIV transmission regardless of condom use."

insertive fellatio means that ( YOUR PENIS INTO YOUR WOMEN MOUTH). Canada currently classify BJ /fellatio AS NON RISK ACTIVITY. Which they put it as Negligible risk. Means the same.

JAPAN also consider BJ as non risk activity. All the sex activity involving fellatio is considered non risk.

NOW, lets come back to you. Who do you believe? Which experts do you listen to?

Well It is all up to you. American CDC classifies all types of oral sex including fellation as a risky activity- possible to transmit HIV virus.

But Canada and Japan consider Fellatio especially INSERTIVE FELLATIO AS SAFE SEX OR AS THEY PUT IT NEGLIGIBLE RISK.

I have presented the scientific explanations behind the questions. I have presented the experts views on the subject matter. Experts are divided on the subject.

At this point, it all comes back to you. Do you want to take the risk of BJ RAW? Is this worth it ? Do not ask your didi, you should ask your head . But one thing , as you already know. AIDS do not see any different in their target. Young, Old, kind, bitch, fat, thin, rich, poor, LOW RISK OR HIGH RISK .AIDS ONLY HAS ONE POLICY. " I INFECT YOU, YOU DIE"

Whew, long information. Hope this is useful bro. The doctor just hope for you guys to PM me if you know any good girls Bonking information. :D .

or Up my rep point

Frank Out

born_mean

10-03-2005, 11:48 AM

samboy123

19-03-2005, 01:05 PM

Any one know abt quality of condom which used by girls(i mean legal) in Geylang,does they know how to put condom on their customer?

collin_23

20-03-2005, 02:29 PM

Go ask under the newbies section. Here is for HIV question. :rolleyes:

If u working in a high risk environment, will u want to learn to protect yourself from harm? :cool:

Any one know abt quality of condom which used by girls(i mean legal) in Geylang,does they know how to put condom on their customer?

collin_23

20-03-2005, 02:34 PM

During normal brushing of teeth, one may accidentally brush until got blood due to poor gums etc. I encounter it myself when I brush too hard and fast.

If u really unlucky than no need ulcer, blood from the gums will do.

U know u have an ulcer so next time wait for it to recover b4 u want to kiss. This is to protect yourself. No need HIV, bacterias in her mouth(esp WLs who perform BBBJ, CIM, french, AR) can hope onto your mouth easily.

Kissing is never safe esp frenching cause many forms of stds need only minimal contact.

Go for a checkup at DSC if in doubt. U can opt to go for the anonymous testing.

one question big bros...hope you guys dont mind...

let say there is a case...

you got ulcer in your mouth and you do normal kissing...and the girl got no ulcer...but her saliva contact with your ulcer...will you get HIV in this way if she is infected??

sorry for the ignorant question...hope you guys wont mind...

samboy123

21-03-2005, 06:26 PM

How can we know that condom is not fail?After I took it off,my dick was dry at all!(i remember that i cum a little semen at that time)

69monster

22-03-2005, 08:16 PM

wowlan er... what u saying lay.. me no understanding...

How can we know that condom is not fail?After I took it off,my dick was dry at all!(i remember that i cum a little semen at that time)

Frankiestine

22-03-2005, 08:49 PM

How can we know that condom is not fail?After I took it off,my dick was dry at all!(i remember that i cum a little semen at that time)
Let me try to translate it to england...

"How can we know that condom didn't fail? After I took it off, my dick was dry but i remember that i came and blew my load off?""

Korlek or nock?

69monster

22-03-2005, 09:06 PM

can translate it to singlish??? :D

Let me try to translate it to england...

Korlek or nock?

Frankiestine

22-03-2005, 09:14 PM

can translate it to singlish??? :D
Ok...goes something like this...
Lan jiao long safe or not? I go pa pao, take out long, lang jiao still dry dry but i remember lan jiao got shoot chu lai....

Under the stand..??? :confused:

bongster

24-03-2005, 01:17 AM

How can we know that condom is not fail?After I took it off,my dick was dry at all!(i remember that i cum a little semen at that time)

a condom is like a balloon, if burst will totally rip open, dun believe u use a dildo and whack wif a condom on it, do a search at www.thebody.com

69monster

24-03-2005, 09:44 AM

thankyou U very the much.. now teletubby "under"-"stand" liao.

Ok...goes something like this...

FRANK77

28-03-2005, 07:18 PM

a condom is like a balloon, if burst will totally rip open, dun believe u use a dildo and whack wif a condom on it, do a search at www.thebody.com

To Bongster

What you say is correct and incorrect at the same time. It is correct that condom will burst if banged upon. But you did not consider that condom can also tear if subjected to metal pressure such as jewelry. Rings , etc. especially when you first wearing the condoms.

If the condom is torn or slashed, this will leave tiny holes or big cuts depending on how severe the condom is pressed against the metal.

This tiny hole is difficult to notice.

Thats why be careful when wearing condoms.Avoid getting drunk or get drugged at all costs.

Frank out

MrRoger

02-04-2005, 03:15 AM

Dr.Sex

02-04-2005, 10:49 AM

Hmm bro the tested kit is for the HIV right? that is not 100% accurate, unless u are very sure the kit is not contaminate when shipping.

Or was it for the herpes? I dont remember seeing any test kit on herpes on the shelves.

Pls clarify.

http://www.hiv-test-yourself.com/

I just bought a few test kits at this site. Tested negative. Somehow i think herpes scared the shit out of me. but i tested negative on these kits. at least more relieved...

MrRoger

04-04-2005, 01:10 PM

Nope not Herpes test kits already tested positive for herpes. So every worried for HIV also. By the way, can i find out if HIV sypmtoms is more extreme? As in fever is normally high fever? Headache is acute headache? and stuff? Muscle ache is normally very painful after sports kind of muscle ache? Night sweat is accompanied with fever?

OysterLover

04-04-2005, 02:33 PM

http://www.hiv-test-yourself.com/

I just bought a few test kits at this site. Tested negative. ...

wow this is good stuff .. tot these test kits costs alot

FRANK77

05-04-2005, 10:57 AM

http://www.hiv-test-yourself.com/

I just bought a few test kits at this site. Tested negative. Somehow i think herpes scared the shit out of me. but i tested negative on these kits. at least more relieved...

To All Bro,

Herpes is not that dangerous. In a matter of 2 weeks time, you will feel herpes symptoms if you are infected ,unlike HIV.

The Herpes can not be cured but the pain will only be temporary. As medications can help. Once the pain subsides, the virus will live in your nerve points, laying dormant. and will re surface again later on.

Herpes cause uncomfort. With medication, it will help to ease the pain.

It is HIV that you need to worry. It will turn you to living zombie and kill you off,

slow and painful death. The real nightmare. Most frightening, it is not EASILY detectable because you will have little or no symptoms for some/long period of time.

Frank

Dr.Sex

05-04-2005, 02:16 PM

bro. that really depend individuals. Different people have different immunity system. Some have no syptoms at all.

to be sure, it is better to seeks professional advice :)

Nope not Herpes test kits already tested positive for herpes. So every worried for HIV also. By the way, can i find out if HIV sypmtoms is more extreme? As in fever is normally high fever? Headache is acute headache? and stuff? Muscle ache is normally very painful after sports kind of muscle ache? Night sweat is accompanied with fever?

Dr.Sex

05-04-2005, 02:22 PM

Herpes is "Dangerous" of course. it is not dangerous to oneself in a way coz it will not kill you, but it can be spread easily to other family memeber.. and if u have a kid at home.. u really have to be careful with it. there were afew case where mothers pass the virus to the infant thru birth which causes the baby to be blindalthough it is rare nowaday..

and the longer u have it, the attack last shorter and u recover faster.. but it stays with you for the whole life.

For HIV, it is the mental torture that many of us cannot bear with rather than the physically torture..

To All Bro,

Herpes is not that dangerous.

The Herpes can not be cured but the pain will only be temporary. As medications can help. Once the pain subsides, the virus will live in your nerve points, laying dormant. and will re surface again later on.

Herpes cause uncomfort. With medication, it will help to ease the pain.

It is HIV that you need to worry. It will turn you to living zombie and kill you off,

Frank

bradpitt

08-04-2005, 02:30 PM

Can HIV and other STDs be transmitted through Chinese Acupuncture where they re use the needles ? Why is it that people who has had acupuncture within 3 months are not allowed to donate blood?

sammyboyfor

08-04-2005, 02:44 PM

Can HIV and other STDs be transmitted through Chinese Acupuncture where they re use the needles ?

The answer is theoretical yes. However, there is no evidence that HIV has actually been transmitted via accupuncture.

Ethanas

08-04-2005, 03:04 PM

Can HIV and other STDs be transmitted through Chinese Acupuncture where they re use the needles ? Why is it that people who has had acupuncture within 3 months are not allowed to donate blood?

As sam said theoratically yes HIV can be transmitted this way. However most reputable sinsei do not reuse their needles. So far those I been to uses those disposable needles sealed in a foil much like those stringe needles and dispose of them after use.

The rule that people not allowing to donate blood if they have acupuncture within 3 mths is probably due to health agencies in singapore do not have strict control over acupunture practices so to be safe a 3 mth period is imposed.

righteousness

08-04-2005, 03:37 PM

collin_23

08-04-2005, 08:50 PM

Hmm...guess it depends on luck than. In that case tattoos and ear piercings etc all should close shop liaoz. :rolleyes:

My advise go to a reputable place for any kinda stuff. :cool:

ps: The HIV virus is known to die very fast once outside the body.

ChickLuver

13-04-2005, 04:06 PM

I am giving a few links which would be useful for my fellow bros:

http://www.aids.org/info/FAQs.html

http://www.afraidtoask.com/std.html

Happy hunting, but play safe

sex0l0gy

13-04-2005, 08:17 PM

samboy123

13-04-2005, 11:45 PM

Helo to all,

Would like to enquire on the following:

1. I had sex with a HC gal two days ago. How long should I wait before I go for a HIV test.

2. Any clincal to recommend for the HIV test.

3. How long does I need to wait for the result.

4. If the result is negative, should I go for another HIV test after 3 months once the result is out.

Hope that all bro dun flamed me for asking the a/b.

1.One month
2.Dsc Clinic (www.dsc-sexualhealth.com.sg)
3.Just 15-20 minutes if do the anynomous test on Wed 6pm-8pm and Sat 1pm-4pm
4.You should!For the conclusive result!

flatron

17-04-2005, 04:13 PM

6 wks ago, i had unprotect sex with a ktv hostess. since then, i had been worrying that i had contracted hiv and had been searching the net almost eveyday for infos. nothing significants appeared until a few days ago. it started with 2 mouth ulcers consecutively. for no apparent reason, i feeling weakness all over my body and my hands and legs will twitch occasionally. there is soreness on my neck and dry throat as well.

i know, this is not a good place to post all these but pls, can any bro here who know or had experienced wat i going through tell me am i already a gone case. i won't be able to take the test till 3 wks times and i feeling really depress now. i really hope somebody can talk to me....

sadsea

17-04-2005, 08:38 PM

bro flatron, don't feel so down, keep urself busy till the day u go for test. for test, u can either go after 1 month or three month. if one month result ok then go second test for the third month. although both are same still need test after three months but atless u had gone through the first test at first month, u will feel not so depress for the waiting period. go afa for annoymone test at dsc (kelantan lane) on wednesday 6pm to 8pm and sat 1 to 4pm. or just to any gp, but gp will record down ur particular. don't worry too much, stop sex right now till the test, nice day.

samboy123

17-04-2005, 08:40 PM

Desmond

20-04-2005, 10:51 PM

Bro flatron, no pt worrying unnecessarily. It'll destroy ur life. Just go for the test. U'll realise that uve been worrying too much... however ,if u do pass the test, remember the lesson and wear a condom next time or betta still refrain from casual sex (which i doubt u can.. hehe). ~My advice is go for the anonymous testing at DSC which is faster, better than visiting the doctors at DSC on normal days, cos some docs there really one hell kinda attitude, esp when u tell them ur worried abt contracting HIV,like view u like very kiasee like dat, and shows attitude, which in my opinion all docs be it GP or STD specialists shouldnt behave like dat. ....The volunteers of AFA who conduct the anonymous testing though are so much betta and more approachable.
Good luck to u~. :)

willywee

21-04-2005, 01:43 AM

The test is definitely a good idea but i read enough magazines who say that there is a 30-day window (or even a 100 day window). Any medically-qualified cheongsters can verify? :D

Big Sexy

21-04-2005, 08:43 AM

i believe AFA have a free hotline where u can call and talk to them
http://www.afa.org.sg/
62540212 or 90037566 or email [email protected].

6 wks ago, i had unprotect sex with a ktv hostess. it started with 2 mouth ulcers consecutively.

i won't be able to take the test till 3 wks times and i feeling really depress now. i really hope somebody can talk to me....

longthickrod76

21-04-2005, 09:09 AM

Hi brudders,

I had a most terrifying experience lately when my condom broke during one of my session with a HC gal. The whole head of my penis was unprotected during the FJ without me knowing.

Of course I washed with soap immediately after and again when I reached home. So far, I have not experienced any signs or symptoms yet. This happened about 5 days ago.

I know I should go for the AFA HIV testing in a month's time. But meanwhile, I'm also very worried about STDs.

Can anyone recommend a good and understanding GP in the town area which is discreet. I will go for both HIV and STD testing as soon as possible.

Please PM me cos' my hotmail account isn't working at the moment.

This has really been a wake up call to me. I'm experiencing a lot of anxiety and also suffering from mild depression now. I will definitely be quitting the commercial sex scene after this episode.

Thanks in advance to everyone here for your time.

bongster

21-04-2005, 01:25 PM

opticum

21-04-2005, 03:42 PM

i believe AFA have a free hotline where u can call and talk to them
http://www.afa.org.sg/
62540212 or 90037566 or email [email protected].

Use public phone to call, as all calls are recorded. Don't leave any trace behind... :)

Big Sexy

21-04-2005, 04:16 PM

no la.. i dont think they track our call.. can u confirm?

Use public phone to call, as all calls are recorded. Don't leave any trace behind... :)

longthickrod76

21-04-2005, 08:08 PM

Bro.. if your ROD is like mine, thick. PLEASE KINDLY go use DUREX EXTRA SAFE, it is thicker and harder to break, less sexsation but more safety. I know cos mine broke a few times using normal ones, thicker dicks = 3 times likely to break. As for HIV, yes please go test for HIV. For STD, you can try Dr Han at Jalan Besar Shopping Centre, he specialise in STD, slighlt pricey though. All the best, we are all praying for you

Bro Bongster,

I can't find Jalan Besar Shopping Centre on the street directory. Is it Jalan Besar Plaza? Can you give me the address of the clinic? How pricey is he? Any estimates? I'm not too rich.

Thanks a a lot. Please pray for me, brudders.

bongster

22-04-2005, 02:32 AM

Yeap shld be Jln Besar Plaza name is called Han Clinic very big one...

longthickrod76

23-04-2005, 10:07 AM

Brudder Bongster,

Can you give me a rough estimate of the charges for a complete test? Need to bring enough money there. Dun wanna use my card for obvious reasons.

Thanks in advance.

smlee

23-04-2005, 04:22 PM

Bro.. if your ROD is like mine, thick. PLEASE KINDLY go use DUREX EXTRA SAFE, it is thicker and harder to break, less sexsation but more safety. I know cos mine broke a few times using normal ones, thicker dicks = 3 times likely to break. As for HIV, yes please go test for HIV. For STD, you can try Dr Han at Jalan Besar Shopping Centre, he specialise in STD, slighlt pricey though. All the best, we are all praying for you

You must be young and vigorous.Old man like me go at low speed so breakage extremely rare

smlee

23-04-2005, 04:24 PM

no la.. i dont think they track our call.. can u confirm?

My brother is a volunteer with them and he confirmed no trace.

AFA is in no way linked to the gahment. They just wanted to help people with doubt about HIV/AIDS as well as people living with it.

bongster

24-04-2005, 04:03 PM

Brudder Bongster,

Can you give me a rough estimate of the charges for a complete test? Need to bring enough money there. Dun wanna use my card for obvious reasons.

Thanks in advance.

No need bring too much lar, I think ard 100+ can get everything screened.

Big Sexy

24-04-2005, 04:48 PM

yeap... that was what i thought too.. i really dont understand why people are so skeptical about going to afa and thinks that they track the phone and records etc...Haiz...

My brother is a volunteer with them and he confirmed no trace.

AFA is in no way linked to the gahment. They just wanted to help people with doubt about HIV/AIDS as well as people living with it.

longthickrod76

24-04-2005, 06:29 PM

No need bring too much lar, I think ard 100+ can get everything screened.

Thanks brudder. Will be going in a month's time.... wish me luck...

monkeyman

02-05-2005, 08:53 PM

bro wish you good luck , a close friend of mine just confirm he got HIV, he is only 28 this year.
:(
Thanks brudder. Will be going in a month's time.... wish me luck...

Magpies

02-05-2005, 09:05 PM

sammyboyfor

03-05-2005, 05:03 AM

hey bros..have been reading up on HIV these days...it always say if the other party performs oral sex on you..the risk of u getting infected is low...hw bout if i perform on her lei?wat is the risk?isit higher than when she performs on me?

BBC News Online: Health

Wednesday, 4 July, 2001, 23:01 GMT 00:01 UK

Oral sex HIV warning

The risk of contracting HIV from oral sex may be greater than previously thought.

It has long been known that the virus can be transmitted through oral sex - but the risk was thought to be minimal.

However, research in the UK and US among gay men now suggests that oral sex may be responsible for up to 8% of HIV infections.

Instead of a handful of cases a year in the UK of HIV being transmitted through oral sex, we are seeing 30 to 50
Dr Barry Evans

Other sexually transmitted diseases, such as syphilis and gonorrhoea are also spread from person to person by oral sex.

Public health experts fear that the public is unaware of the dangers associated with the practice because it remains largely a taboo subject.

In addition, anecdotal evidence from other countries like the US suggests that people tend to reject messages advising them always to use condoms for oral sex.

In fact, such messages can, in theory at least, put people off condom use altogether.

Greater awareness

A report by the Public Health Laboratory Service (PHLS) report concludes it is important for people to be more aware of the dangers and decide for themselves the level of risk they consider acceptable.

Dr Barry Evans, an PHLS expert on sexual diseases, said: "The picture that is emerging is that the risk is greater than previously thought.

"Instead of a handful of cases a year in the UK of HIV being transmitted through oral sex, we are seeing 30 to 50."

Dr Evans stressed that HIV is mostly spread through anal and vaginal sex.

Recent studies confirm that unprotected anal sex is clearly the highest risk activity, accounting for over 90% of transmission in gay men in the UK.

ang076

03-05-2005, 05:57 AM

So, no more BBBJ for me.

But WL at GL perform BBBJ ..

longthickrod76

04-05-2005, 08:30 AM

bro wish you good luck , a close friend of mine just confirm he got HIV, he is only 28 this year.
:(

Just went to Han's clinic yesterday.

Dr Han told me that the chances of getting HIV is very low but other stds very high. Anyway, he gave me a jab just in case (or rather, he said to protect me first). And also gave me antibiotics for 5 days.

Waiting for my blood test results which should be out sometime this week.

However, I'll probably need to retest again 3 months later.

Meanwhile, I'll be going for AFA testing in another 2 weeks and 6 weeks time just to give myself the peace of mind I desperately need at the moment.

Can you tell us more of your friend's situation?

Thanks brudder

Big Sexy

04-05-2005, 02:08 PM

new reported yesterday that everyday in singapore got 3-4 people kenna HIV.

u all still wanna go cheong uncap.. see when kenna strike 4D. tell me and i will congrat you.

Magpies

04-05-2005, 05:48 PM

read sme Q & A and on DSC webby...they kp saying tat chances of getting HIV thru oral sex is low...cos it says the saliva can inhibit the HIV virus...though there is stil a slight risk la...hmm...

longthickrod76

05-05-2005, 08:32 AM

new reported yesterday that everyday in singapore got 3-4 people kenna HIV.

u all still wanna go cheong uncap.. see when kenna strike 4D. tell me and i will congrat you.

I din cheong uncap lah. The freaking condom bursted. Durex somemore.

PASSIONAETE04

05-05-2005, 09:39 AM

yeap... that was what i thought too.. i really dont understand why people are so skeptical about going to afa and thinks that they track the phone and records etc...Haiz...

Bro, if i remember correctly, some time ago MOH ever mentioned about bringing in HIV test kits for individual testing, How true is this ?
Is there such instant test kit available in the market ? both local or oversea ?

Big Sexy

05-05-2005, 04:22 PM

not talking about u la.. dont be so sentitive.

I din cheong uncap lah. The freaking condom bursted. Durex somemore.

Big Sexy

05-05-2005, 04:39 PM

try here.. :D

http://www.exporters.sg/showroom_item.asp?id=20596&v=rec

Bro, if i remember correctly, some time ago MOH ever mentioned about bringing in HIV test kits for individual testing, How true is this ?
Is there such instant test kit available in the market ? both local or oversea ?

jonah11

14-05-2005, 08:35 AM

Hi guys, need some advice and help but definitely I will be going for blood test at 1 month, 3 months and 6 months period. I went to a health centre and visited a gal. We had some foreplay and in the midst, she threw her wet underwear at my face. Uneasy with the wetness, I quickly swept away. She attempted it again and threw her wet underwear at my face and I swept away again. Then the gal told me my pimple is my face was bleeding and there was also a bleeding ulcer. She used tissue paper to wipe away my blood. I later question the gal and she said the wetness is because she went to the toilet and after urinating she used water to clean her private parts. But supposing the wetness is vaginal fluids and she is HIV positive, guess I am at risk of HIV transmission. Please advise. Thanks!

bonker80

14-05-2005, 09:12 AM

HIV is a fragile virus and does not survive in the air for long furthermore, if she has mixed her fluids with water, the risk is even lower. I would not consider you to be at any risk at all. But a test will be good to set your mind at ease. Next time, throw your underwear at her instead. :D

Don28

14-05-2005, 03:07 PM

If a person go for anonymous testing at DSC .If he is HIV +ve.
Will the info of the person be confidential?
Will they report to MOM,CDC & family member?

Please advice.Thanks

Big Sexy

14-05-2005, 06:24 PM

u should be 99% safe.. dont worry too much..

Hi guys, need some advice and help but definitely I will be going for blood test at 1 month, 3 months and 6 months period.

ComingNow

16-05-2005, 07:52 PM

Guys,

Sorry to post, but really don't know what else to do. Sent an e-mail to AFA, but no reply yet.

4 weeks back, had a BBBJ from a girl I know from the MIRC, no FJ, just BBBJ. Now, freaking worried about HIV, have been reading up on all the symptoms for HIV, and thus far, only got a white spot in the mouth, don't know whether significant.

Been reading that usually takes 3 months before a test can be accurate, but I am really worried sick.... since it is already 1 month, should I go for the screening? Really need it to ease my very troubled mind.....

sorry to intrude again bros... just very worried.

ComingNow

16-05-2005, 07:59 PM

Brothers,

sorry for intruding, but really feel very worried now.

4 weeks back, I had a BBBJ from a girl that I met on MIRC. Status unknown... just come and go kind.

Now, after reading all the info on HIV, really feel very very worried. Thus far, I have read all the symptoms on HIV, and I got a white spot on my lip, not sure whether it is significant.

Really feel very regretful... sigh... wonder whether I should go for the screening as now it is only 1 month? Read that it will only be accurate after 3 months right? Don't know what to do now......

Sorry bros... really worried.

jonah11

24-05-2005, 06:45 AM

It have been very unfortunate to encounter 2 incidents in 2 weeks and this is my second incident which I am very worried. Went to a HC and massaged by a gal. She took off her underwear and placed in on my face directly above my nose. Damn it was so smelly and it was a bit wet. And then she sat on my face and her vagina was directly above my nose and again it was so smelly. All these happened for about 30 to 45 minutes. Now I am worried about the risk of HIV transmission. I really may have to go for blood test at 1 mth, 3 mth and 6 mth period.

Bros, I know this sounds a bit silly and stupid. However, please advice! Thanks!

sadsea

24-05-2005, 05:04 PM

ha ha,bro jonah, ur message very funny, especially the "smelly pussy", which last time i also encounter, ke ke, for me i like to stick my face onto a sexy butt, sometime encounter "smelly asshole" :p , bro, don't worry la, no way for u to get this deadly disease in such situation, but anyway it's good for u to go for a check, not for tis encounter but for ur cheong days, nice day.

Big Sexy

17-07-2005, 05:37 PM

Some update on HIV... not too sure if this is true...

According to Robert Short, an Australian academic ,Lemon juice has amazing powers to prevent HIV and as a contraceptive to kill sperm in 30 seconds.

He is Robert Short ,is a fellow in the department of obstetrics and gynaecology at the Royal Women's Hospital at the University of Melbourne.

His observation:-

The effects of 10 percent lemon juice on HIV in culture is that it kills the virus very quickly.

Concentration of 20 percent lemon juice in a fresh human ejaculate irreversibly immobilizes 100 percent of spermatozoa in less than 30 seconds.

It would be necessary to use only about 1ml of lemon juice in the vagina to inactivate HIV and sperm.

Neat lemon juice applied to the vagina, or the penis and foreskin is not in any way painful to the user if no lesions are present.

Lemon juice might also be very useful for post-coital washing of the penis, particularly the foreskin, to protect men from HIV infection. If lemons are in short supply, lime juice would be a good alternative.

Big Sexy

17-07-2005, 05:55 PM

Hopes rise for AIDS vaccine breakthrough
old news July 2002.. no update since then

An American pharmaceutical company has said that it may be able to produce a vaccine against AIDS within five years, and not ten as previously thought.

The company, VaxGen, is due to announce the findings of its research this afternoon at an international AIDS conference in Barcelona.

In another development, the Swiss firm, Roche, in partnership with an American company, said that they have produced a drug that attacks the HIV virus before it gets into human cells, not after. That drug could be available next year.

But Seth Barclay, President of the International AIDS Vaccine Initiative, which promotes research into the illness, said that it would be some time before the treatment was readily obtainable.

There have been calls at the 14th International AIDS Conference for the disease to be put at the top of political agendas around the world.

The head of the United Nations agency set up to combat AIDS, Dr Peter Piot, earlier said that leaders who did not take the fight against the disease seriously should be put out of office.

Link over here

http://www.rte.ie/news/2002/0708/aids.html

matureguy_sg

28-07-2005, 05:18 PM

It been month after I cheong the last girl, recently I found the outer skin of the pennis tat is cut, like abbrassion. But My pennis did not feel any itche or pain. Is this a sign of STD, any bros encounter before, pls advise, kind of worries.

Thanks

Big Sexy

03-08-2005, 02:31 PM

bros who are interested in the reply....the follow up is here...

http://forum.sammyboy.com/showthread.php?t=40791

maybe sam would like to merge the threads :)

I found the outer skin of the pennis tat is cut, like abbrassion. But My pennis before, pls advise, kind of worries.
Thanks

Big Sexy

13-08-2005, 12:34 PM

Here are some laws on INFECTIOUS DISEASES

INFECTIOUS DISEASES ACT (CHAPTER 137)

CONTROL OF AIDS AND HIV INFECTION
Person with AIDS or HIV Infection to undergo counselling, etc
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22. -(1) The Director may require any person who has been diagnosed as having AIDS or HIV Infection -

(a) to undergo counselling by a registered medical practitioner; and

(b) to comply with such precautions and safety measures as may be specified by the Director.

(2) Any person who fails or refuses to comply with subsection (1) shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding $10,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 2 years or to both.

Big Sexy

13-08-2005, 12:35 PM

INFECTIOUS DISEASES ACT (CHAPTER 137) - Sexual intercourse by person with AIDS or HIV Infection

23. -(1) A person who knows that he has AIDS or HIV Infection shall not have sexual intercourse with another person unless, before the sexual intercourse takes place, the other person -

(a) has been informed of the risk of contracting AIDS or HIV Infection from him; and

(b) has voluntarily agreed to accept that risk.

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(2) Any person who contravenes subsection (1) shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding $10,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 2 years or to both.

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(3) For the purposes of this section, a person shall not, only by reason of age, be presumed incapable of having sexual intercourse.

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(4) For the purposes of this section and section 24, a person shall be deemed to know that he has AIDS or HIV Infection if a serological test or any other prescribed test for the purpose of ascertaining the presence of HIV Infection carried out on him has given a positive result and the result was communicated to him.

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(5) In this section, “sexual intercourse” means -

(a) sexual connection occasioned by the introduction into the vagina, anus or mouth of any person of any part of the penis of another person; or

(b) cunnilingus

Big Sexy

13-08-2005, 12:39 PM

INFECTIOUS DISEASES ACT (CHAPTER 137) - Blood donation and other acts by person with AIDS or HIV Infection

24. -(1) Any person who knows that he has AIDS or HIV Infection shall not -

(a) donate blood at any blood bank in Singapore; or

(b) do any act which is likely to transmit or spread AIDS or HIV Infection to another person.

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(2) Any person who contravenes subsection (1) shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding $50,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 2 years or to both.

daneman

13-08-2005, 12:41 PM

Bro Big Sexy,
Thanks for the info. Hopefully, this will make other bros more cautious of the actions they take. Please, if you had a risky exposure, go take a test. It can save your life, and others you love and treasure.

Big Sexy

13-08-2005, 12:41 PM

INFECTIOUS DISEASES ACT (CHAPTER 137) - Protection of identity of person with AIDS, HIV Infection or other sexually transmitted disease

25. -(1) Any person who, in the performance or exercise of his functions or duties under this Act, is aware or has reasonable grounds for believing that another person has AIDS or HIV Infection or is suffering from a sexually transmitted disease or is a carrier of that disease shall not disclose any information which may identify the other person except -

(a) with the consent of the other person;

(b) when it is necessary to do so in connection with the administration or execution of anything under this Act;

(c) when ordered to do so by a court;

(d) to any medical practitioner or other health staff who is treating or caring for the other person;

(e) to any blood, organ, semen or breast milk bank that has received or will receive any blood, organ, semen or breast milk from the other person;

(f) for statistical reports and epidemiological purposes if the information is used in such a way that the identity of the other person is not made known;

(g) to the victim of a sexual assault by the other person;

(h) to the Controller of Immigration for the purposes of the Immigration Act (Cap. 133);

(i) to the next-of-kin of the other person upon the death of such person;

(j) to any person or class of persons to whom, in the opinion of the Director, it is in the public interest that the information be given; or

(k) when authorised by the Minister to publish such information for the purposes of public health or public safety.

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(2) Any person who contravenes subsection (1) shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding $2,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 3 months or to both.

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(3) For the purposes of subsection (1) (a), the consent of the other person includes -

(a) if that person has died, the written consent of that person’s spouse, personal representative, administrator or executor;

(b) if that person is below the age of 16 years, the written consent of a parent or legal guardian of that person; and

(c) if, in the opinion of the medical practitioner who undertook the test for HIV Infection for that person, he has a disability by reason of which he appears incapable of giving consent, the written consent in the following order, of -

(i) a legal guardian of that person;

(ii) the spouse of that person;

(iii) a parent of that person; or

(iv) an adult child of that person.

Big Sexy

13-08-2005, 12:44 PM

and there is a new LAW which will inform spouses of partners who contracted HIV and AIDS

Spouses who are unaware that their partners are HIV positive will be told of the diagnosis.

The Senior Minister of State for Health, Dr Balaji Sadasivan, said this was necessary to protect the health of spouses.

He said the Communicable Disease Centre was currently going through its records of HIV positive and AIDS patients to inform spouses who do not know.

Dr Balaji was speaking at an ethics seminar for doctors.

Dr Balaji said: "Doctors have a duty to their patient to maintain confidentiality. They also have a duty to protect the spouse from getting infected.

Link provided by bro daneman
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stor.../157931/1/.html

Big Sexy

13-08-2005, 12:45 PM

bro..you have done a good job as well.. do post more here..

Bro Big Sexy,
Thanks for the info. Hopefully, this will make other bros more cautious of the actions they take. Please, if you had a risky exposure, go take a test. It can save your life, and others you love and treasure.

Big Sexy

13-08-2005, 12:49 PM

INFECTIOUS DISEASES ACT (CHAPTER 137) - Disclosure by Director, medical practitioner and recipient of information

25A. -(1) The Director may disclose any information relating to any person whom he reasonably believes to be infected with AIDS or HIV Infection to -

(a) any medical practitioner or other health staff who has been exposed to a risk of infection from AIDS or HIV Infection; or

(b) any first responder who has experienced a significant exposure to blood or other potentially infectious materials of any patient.

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(2) In subsection (1), “first responder” means any police officer, member of the Singapore Civil Defence Force or any person who provides emergency response, first aid care or other medically related assistance either in the course of the person’s occupational duties or as a volunteer.

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(3) Subject to subsection (4), a medical practitioner may disclose information relating to any person whom he reasonably believes to be infected with AIDS or HIV Infection to the spouse, former spouse or other contact of the infected person or to a Health Officer for the purpose of making the disclosure to the spouse, former spouse or other contact.

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(4) The medical practitioner shall not disclose any information under subsection (3) unless -

(a) he reasonably believes that it is medically appropriate and that there is a significant risk of infection to the spouse, former spouse or other contact;

(b) he has counselled the infected person regarding the need to notify the spouse, former spouse or other contact and he reasonably believes that the infected person will not inform the spouse, former spouse or other contact; and

(c) he has informed the infected person of his intent to make such disclosure to the spouse, former spouse or other contact.

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(5) Where the medical practitioner is unable, by any reasonable means, to counsel or inform the infected person, he may apply to the Director to waive the requirements of subsection (4) (b) or (c) or both.

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(6) The Director may approve the application made under subsection (5) if, in the opinion of the Director, it is medically appropriate to disclose the information and that there is a significant risk of infection to the spouse, former spouse or other contact.
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(7) No person, to whom any information relating to a person who is reasonably believed to be infected with AIDS or HIV Infection has been disclosed under this section, shall disclose such information to any person other than the persons specified in subsection (8) or as provided in subsection (10).

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(8) The persons referred to in subsection (7) are -

(a) the infected person himself;

(b) a person who is authorised under section 25 (1) (a) to consent to such disclosure; and

(c) any person who is authorised to disclose such information under subsection (1), (3) or (6) or section 25 (1).

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(9) Any person who contravenes subsection (7) shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding $10,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 3 months or to both.

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(10) A person, to whom any information relating to a person who is reasonably believed to be infected with AIDS or HIV Infection has been disclosed under this section, may apply to the Director for approval to disclose such information to any person or class of persons.

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(11) The Director may approve the application under subsection (10) if he is satisfied that such disclosure is in the interests of public health or public safety.

daneman

13-08-2005, 12:51 PM

bro..you have done a good job as well.. do post more here..
Thanks bro...just here to help. Ignorance is harmful. The more info bros here have...the better. Dun worry, i will be here often to see which bro need more info and advice.

Big Sexy

15-08-2005, 08:08 AM

HIV/AIDS STATISTICS in SG till 2004

extracted from http://www.hpb.gov.sg/aids/index.htm

The total number of HIV/AIDS cases diagnosed in Singapore as of Dec 2004 is 2386. The year 2004 has had the highest number of HIV infected persons, at 311. Although this appears low, the World Health Organisation (WHO) estimates that the actual figure is likely to be 3 times higher. Hence, this current number is only the tip of the iceberg.

Of the total number of diagnosed cases, 910 are asymptomatic carriers, 593 have full-blown AIDS and 883 have died.

To date, the heterosexual route remains the main mode of HIV transmission in Singapore. The majority of the infected people are male, the gender ratio being eight males to one female. 60% of these males are single. However, 61% of the females are married.

Although many advances have been made in the frontier of treatment, a cure or vaccine for HIV/AIDS has yet to be found. Until then, prevention of further infections through the dissemination of accurate information and education remains the best way to contain the disease.

Big Sexy

20-08-2005, 08:17 AM

More on HIV/AIDS STATISTICS in SG
extract from http://www.moh.gov.sg/corp/publications/statistics/hiv.do 20 Aug 2005 0818hours

New cases of HIV infection reported in 2004

1. In 2004, another 311 Singaporeans were detected to be HIV infected. About 93% of the new cases detected this year were males and 7% were females.

2. Sexual transmission remains the main mode of HIV transmission among Singaporeans. This year saw a significant increase in number of new cases via homosexual transmission compared to previous years. Of the 311 cases reported this year, 300 cases acquired the infection through the sexual route with heterosexual transmission accounting for 66% of infections, homosexual transmission 23% and bisexual transmission 7%. The remaining 4% was due to intravenous drug use (7 cases) and perinatal transmission (4 cases). Among those who acquired the infection through the sexual route, about 83% had sexual exposure to prostitutes (locally and overseas) and/or casual sex partners.

3. Those aged between 30 to 49 years of age accounted for about 57% of all new cases reported this year. Those aged between 50 to 59 years accounted for 14%, and 20 to 29 years accounted for 15% of new cases this year. Of the new cases, about 60% were single while about 26% were married, 9% were divorced and 5% were widowed.

Total number of HIV infected Singaporeans

4. This brings the total number of HIV infected Singaporeans including 22 children to 2386 as of end 2004 (Table 1). Of these, 910 are asymptomatic carriers, 593 have full-blown AIDS and 883 have died.

5. Heterosexual transmission has been the most common mode of HIV transmission among Singaporeans since 1991 (Table 2). Most of these cases contracted the infection through casual sex and sex with prostitutes in Singapore and overseas.

6. The majority of the HIV infected Singaporeans are males with 2106 cases; 280 are females (Table 3) giving a sex ratio of about eight males to one female. Among the males, 60% were single at the point of diagnosis. For the females, however, the majority (61%) were married.

7. About 84% are Chinese, 8% Malays, 5% Indians and 3% Others (Table 4). About 19% of the HIV infected Singaporeans were working in the sales and service sector and another 18% were production craftsman and plant/machine assemblers (Table 6).

table 4 link here

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table 6 link here
http://img377.imageshack.us/my.php?image=table65sb.gif

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