Confused...

[watmidoin]

Hi Folks,

Juz wana get some advice from fellow samsters out there. Here's the situation:

I'm 26, and had not been able to get a gf (not handsome enuf, not rich enuf, and the list goes on). That's bad enuf. To make it worse, I was aware of my sexuality since I was very small and living in sex-crazy S'pore doesn't help :(

Its reached such a point whereby I'm spending alot of time thinking abt sex. I'm tempted to get rid of that "first time" with a WL.

Juz wana know if anyone had been in a similar position. What's the mental fallout after dat? Do you feel guilty? shame? or worse (as pointed out in another thread) addicted?! Or do u find ur lust satisfied?

For the girls reading this, wat will ur reaction be if u found out ur bf bonked a WL before?

Juz hoping there's some Uncle Agony out there...

Confused :confused:

[Rof|maoxz]

Even you do not not possess the qualities of a hunk, there r' still some good points of yours which girls might admire. (Good personality, character etc..) DO not despair and life stiil goes on. Sometimes you might disappoint yourself if you are being "rushed" to have your first time. Go slow my frd, look around you, there is always a chance to grab. ;)

[Rof|maoxz]

Double post....

[cheongkid]

Originally posted by watmidoin
Hi Folks,

Juz wana get some advice from fellow samsters out there. Here's the situation:

I'm 26, and had not been able to get a gf (not handsome enuf, not rich enuf, and the list goes on). That's bad enuf. To make it worse, I was aware of my sexuality since I was very small and living in sex-crazy S'pore doesn't help :(

Its reached such a point whereby I'm spending alot of time thinking abt sex. I'm tempted to get rid of that "first time" with a WL.

Juz wana know if anyone had been in a similar position. What's the mental fallout after dat? Do you feel guilty? shame? or worse (as pointed out in another thread) addicted?! Or do u find ur lust satisfied?

For the girls reading this, wat will ur reaction be if u found out ur bf bonked a WL before?

Juz hoping there's some Uncle Agony out there...

Confused :confused:
Same situation here bro and I'm 31 this year. Slightly better looking than William Hung (no offence to his fans) and don't possess the 5Cs. Sometimes somethings got to leave it to fate and destiny. Not sure about you but I believe when the time is ripe, you can find your Miss Right.

S'pore isn't sex-crazy but paper-crazy (money & qualifications). If you're financially stable but not handsome, you actually stand a good chance as women in the long run want a husband who can provide for the family. Many a times on the streets, the chio babe bf isn't exactly a hunk either.

If you really can't tahan and wanted to "release", by all means go ahead but practise safe sex.

Regarding that last question of yours, first ask yourself do you expect your future gf to be a virgin?

Perhaps we can meet up to share our experiences?

[ah huathuat]

agreed with cheongkid in some ways.

but spore woman are financially independent! they can afford their own house, car and ofcos cash!!!

i guess now is the spore man who want to find a $$$ly dependable woman. he need not be a hulk but must be good to the spore woman. treat her like queen but she may not satisfy u in the bed. spore woman may be sexually cold blooded.

i still prefer prc woman, those from ktv, they really treat u naturally like boyfren. its a good feeling....

[Tai_zi21]

Hi Bro watmidoin
well just my personal views on things! to mi having looks n being rich is only a plus pt to what u have to attract the opp sex only lor! imagine u do have really very pretty gf,but the way she treat u is worse than a dog! do u wan her? i dun think so lor! character is more impt for a ger to look for lor! well dun rush things into finding a gf lor! take ur time n i'm sure u will find a wonderful gf lor! n also relieve stress at geylang is not wrong lor! personally i also lost my V at geylang also lor! nothing to be shame abt it! all of us have our needs lor! but just practise safe sex can liao!

[Hasa Sas]

Originally posted by cheongkid
Same situation here bro and I'm 31 this year. Slightly better looking than William Hung (no offence to his fans) and don't possess the 5Cs. Sometimes somethings got to leave it to fate and destiny. Not sure about you but I believe when the time is ripe, you can find your Miss Right.

S'pore isn't sex-crazy but paper-crazy (money & qualifications). If you're financially stable but not handsome, you actually stand a good chance as women in the long run want a husband who can provide for the family. Many a times on the streets, the chio babe bf isn't exactly a hunk either.

If you really can't tahan and wanted to "release", by all means go ahead but practise safe sex.

Regarding that last question of yours, first ask yourself do you expect your future gf to be a virgin?

Perhaps we can meet up to share our experiences?

It'll be even better if guys posses a car ..definitely stand a better chance....only gals out for a night flirt goes for hulk . For those gals who intend to settle down, they prefer guy with a stable job and caring towards them...average looks. Consider a bonus if he is rich and own a car....good communications skill play an important part too.

:)

[Feli]

actually i believe.. does not matter if you are not good looking.. so long as you are confident and happy about yourself can liao.. gals like confident males.... and treat them with care and concern... lend them an listening ear.. all this will benefit you one..do not rush into sex...

[watmidoin]

Hi All,

Really greatful for ur encouraging replies! Juz wana add a few words. A bit long. Bear with me.

Re: Rof|maoxz
Ya. I know I've got other qualities. In fact, most female friends I know say I'm a nice guy. But I'm the sort whom girls like to have for a "big bro" or "platonic friend". They come complain to me abt their bf n stuff but i'm never their romantic interest.

Re: cheongkid
I also think that when the time is ripe, can find. But I dun intend to wait till 60! I agree we are paper-crazy. But I also tink we are sex-crazy cause sexy women are used to sell everything from fruit juice (no pun intended) to our "favourite" airline. Why else does CNA choose the Geylang expose as the first installment (correct me if i'm wrong) of the Get Real series? Its because sex will attract the viewers!

As for the stable husband thing, as I mentioned above, ya, I'm probably the husband type. Gers go cheong the hunks den look for ppl like me to settle down. Juz feel its not fair if I tahan and they enjoy :mad: dats y wana "release"!

Virgin gf? C'mon. Gers nowadays dun really bother to keep themselves. If got virgin then is "18th Month Bonus". Since I'm probably gona lose mine soon, I won't expect gf to be virgin also. Fair enuf. I asked the Q b'cause some gers can tahan bf go for ONS with colleagues but scream breakup if bf go pay for WL. Somehow, to them, its different. Dats y wana hear something from the gers.

Meetup? haha. paiseh lar. scalli u my boss how? :D

Re: THE REST
Ermz, all these talk about cars and settling down not really my intention when I posted the message. IMHO Gers arnd my age look for the hunk first lar. Got looks, got money, why not? Then when they start to "expire", they "lower" their standards and start talking abt character n stability. We all heard so many times being caring, etc. I'm cynical abt this lar. I care, I nice, I'll probably be stable, I always end up ther "big bro"...

As for rushing into sex, lets juz say the first time I felt a funny feeling when rubbing my "didi", I was so small, there's no cum, n I have no idea wat its about (although somehow I managed to link it to gers. strange. think its instinct). Imagine all that pent up pressure accumulated over so many years!

And finally, yes, I'll practise safe sex lar. Want a long-lasting enjoyable life!

[cheongkid]

Originally posted by ah huathuat
agreed with cheongkid in some ways.

but spore woman are financially independent! they can afford their own house, car and ofcos cash!!!

i guess now is the spore man who want to find a $$$ly dependable woman. he need not be a hulk but must be good to the spore woman. treat her like queen but she may not satisfy u in the bed. spore woman may be sexually cold blooded.

i still prefer prc woman, those from ktv, they really treat u naturally like boyfren. its a good feeling....
Best if both husband & wife work...double income as the standard of living here is pretty high. There is a growing trend where the men are becoming househusbands.

As for the PRC KTV girls, they are here to make quick & big bucks. If you got the means to be their robert, they will stick to you like superglue. There's a Chinese saying, "huan chang wu zhen ai".

[waypastprime]

Originally posted by cheongkid
Same situation here bro and I'm 31 this year. Slightly better looking than William Hung (no offence to his fans) and don't possess the 5Cs. Sometimes somethings got to leave it to fate and destiny. Not sure about you but I believe when the time is ripe, you can find your Miss Right.

U arent that bad lah, bro... To think that u actually use William Hung as an example... U are far better lah

I'm also without a Gf so wat's the big deal? :confused:

[waypastprime]

Originally posted by cheongkid
As for the PRC KTV girls, they are here to make quick & big bucks. If you got the means to be their robert, they will stick to you like superglue. There's a Chinese saying, "huan chang wu zhen ai".

It's hard to explain this phrase to someone who's caught deeply in their love traps... But not for me for sure... But then again, perhaps I have yet to see one.. :(

[cheongkid]

Originally posted by watmidoin
As for rushing into sex, lets juz say the first time I felt a funny feeling when rubbing my "didi", I was so small, there's no cum, n I have no idea wat its about (although somehow I managed to link it to gers. strange. think its instinct). Imagine all that pent up pressure accumulated over so many years!
I guess many of us here have the experience of exploring their own bodies when young. I discovered that by fondling my didi, I felt good (don't know what is masturbation then, I was only in primary sch). After going to sec sch, I started having wet dreams and my first 'shootout' was shiok man! Loads of cum flowing down like lava from a volcano...

Don't pent up that accumulated pressure, go release. Don't want you later 'siao chong nao' go around molesting and raping girls! :eek:

[CheoNemo]

First thing first, can I know what WL stands for? pls do not scold me as I really dunno. anyway, i guess it means prostitute or something like that right?

so regarding the question what your future gf will react if she comes to know that you have visit prostitute before. Personally, I will rather not learn of it as I will certainly be very disappointed. So if you really decide to visit prostitute, just keep it to yourself. I dun think many girls are so open-minded to accept their bf visiting prostitute.

Last but not least, i think it is going to depend on fate for you to meet your girl. some guys meet their early and some late. you are still young and since you say that you treat everyone so well, I am sure in times to come, a girl will fall for you. Just dun rush and be your normal self. Wishing you all the best!!

[Rof|maoxz]

WL= Working Ladies ;)

[watmidoin]

Originally posted by CheoNemo
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so regarding the question what your future gf will react if she comes to know that you have visit prostitute before. Personally, I will rather not learn of it as I will certainly be very disappointed. So if you really decide to visit prostitute, just keep it to yourself. I dun think many girls are so open-minded to accept their bf visiting prostitute.

Last but not least, i think it is going to depend on fate...
nice to finally hear from a ger. so its abit like drama on tv lar. gers would rather bf hide secret forever n not let them know. but then when enjoying in bed, the ger sure know the guy not virgin mar. how to explain to her? say i'm a "natural"? learn from porno vcd? (scalli know i watch porno also become disappointed :rolleyes: )

As for the fate thing, ya lar. i also said before shld be able to get gf eventually. but guys have 2 heads u see. normally the heads take turns to do the tinking 50%-50%. but my smaller head is doin more of the tinking nowadays (80%-20%). its affecting my work n life in general. dats why the decision to try WLs (Working Ladies = prostitutes).

PS: still haven't tried yet. not because no balls. bought condom n ready to go liao. but then, got abit excited n could not sleep for a few days so too weak to go cheong. frustrating :mad:

[facial]

Life is too short. Follow your hearts desire.

[watmidoin]

Thanks for reminding me that there's such a thing called heart. After long hours of thought, I've decided that what I had been talking about is not what I want. I still believe in meeting that dream girl. I would like to believe in one last fairy tale :)

PS: Thanks anyways to all the bros out there who shared experiences and gave advice ;)

[guy_22]

Bro,

If local ones cannot find can try overseas ones. Saw this 'xin yue ' marriage agency helping sg guys find vietnam wife on channel U. If you don't mind chicken and duck talk initially, can go down to the place and have a look.

I not too sure where the place is but the vietnam wives shown on the tv shows are very obedient and nice. Can cook, wash, take care kids, maybe drive you around on scooter..heehee.

Try not to take the 1st step into com sex. There are sex shops at bugis, geylang and far east I think. If you have needs perhaps you can buy a man-made vagina think for 20 bucks. Trust me, the feelings are almost the same. No need scare stds or whatever shit somemore.

Cheers

[thaigers]

Originally posted by ah huathuat
...i still prefer prc woman, those from ktv, they really treat u naturally like boyfren. its a good feeling....

i guess that's why people go to KTV......:D

[thaigers]

Originally posted by CheoNemo
.......
Last but not least, i think it is going to depend on fate for you to meet your girl. some guys meet their early and some late. you are still young and since you say that you treat everyone so well, I am sure in times to come, a girl will fall for you. Just dun rush and be your normal self. Wishing you all the best!! .......

I am still waiting............:rolleyes:

[Luna]

Originally posted by thaigers
I am still waiting............:rolleyes:

Why dun we go ChiangMai and find a wife? They are damm pretty and look like chinese. :p

[thaigers]

Originally posted by Luna
Why dun we go ChiangMai and find a wife? They are damm pretty and look like chinese. :p

I am thinking of going up there too. should we organise a trip there??:D

[Peeptom]

Maybe we can Pm each other to get support on this issue. Many of us have this problem now or then..

[jng1103]

it's saddening to see so many bros here without gf but it's glad to hear most of them r happy cheonging their own ways...

however, i dun agree dat we(guys) should wait for things to fall upon us. there's a saying, REAL MEN MAKE THEIR OWN FORTUNE. In this case, fortune = seek love.

perhaps i'm an aggressive guy who belif that my fate lies upon my control. of coz, with a little luck, i can do far better.

my advise, go out n socialize/network in activities instead of hiding behind ktv scenes. as we all know, there's no love at those places... short time pleasure? definitely...

i work my ass off n grab watever $$$ opportunity dat comes along so dat i wont die poor... hahah

poor guy,
jimbo

[thaigers]

Its true that when it comes to relationship, we just cant sit and wait for things to happen. We need to take a proactive approach, like what bro jimbo has said.

however, in my opinion, I think that singapore women really cant make it for me. Physically they are really appealing because they know how to dress up, but then character wise its another thing......

[DNAT]

Originally posted by waypastprime
I'm also without a Gf so wat's the big deal? :confused:
I intro gf to you ...... ai mai? hehehehe ;)

[waypastprime]

Originally posted by DNAT
I intro gf to you ...... ai mai? hehehehe ;)

U sure? When? :D

[Luna]

Originally posted by thaigers
I am thinking of going up there too. should we organise a trip there??:D

Wah, dun make me gian leh. I still can't forget that chick i saw at HatYai Central Hotel Massage centre. Thru out the session i kept stealing stares at her though she's not serving me. :o

[jng1103]

Originally posted by thaigers
Its true that when it comes to relationship, we just cant sit and wait for things to happen. We need to take a proactive approach, like what bro jimbo has said.

however, in my opinion, I think that singapore women really cant make it for me. Physically they are really appealing because they know how to dress up, but then character wise its another thing......

thanks for ur support bro... i dun like their stuck up attitude either... but dat doesnt stop me from breathing (finding true love). in most ktv scenes, guys look for true gems. i'm not a ktv nor HC guy. i prefer clubbing n socializing with gers/guys to enlarge my circle of life. who knows, u might bump into someone breathing the same air as U... ONLY HEAVEN KNOWS

my concern is, r u gonna cheong ktv/HC till 40s or 50s? gonna stay single n lonely for the rest of ur life? hmm... hope not.

jimbo

[Rof|maoxz]

I think bros here should not use the KTV, HC or Lor 8,10 gers as a standard to gauge their prospective wifves or gerfrds should be. They are too good to be true cos they are providing a service to us. I think we have missed an opportunity in secondary days or even primary school days to find a gerfrd who might be our future wife. Who's knoe. :rolleyes: Workplace, Pubs & Clubs are definitely out for wife or gerfrd searching. Juz my humble view.

[cheongkid]

Originally posted by Rof|maoxz
I think we have missed an opportunity in secondary days or even primary school days to find a gerfrd who might be our future wife. Who's knoe. :rolleyes: Workplace, Pubs & Clubs are definitely out for wife or gerfrd searching. Juz my humble view.
So how? Join SDU/SDS? Mail-order? :confused:

[Rof|maoxz]

Originally posted by cheongkid
So how? Join SDU/SDS? Mail-order? :confused:

Nah, any establishment set up by our honourable govt. is f* dup. Once if... (pun intended) you are one of the few who have got matched up. They will make you sign a agreement to procreate in 2 years time. _|_ :eek:

[guy_22]

Agreements?Like ns obligation?Heehee.

Originally posted by Rof|maoxz
Nah, any establishment set up by our honourable govt. is f* dup. Once if... (pun intended) you are one of the few who have got matched up. They will make you sign a agreement to procreate in 2 years time. _|_ :eek:

[Horndawg]

Interesting to see the flip side of singapore. Girls in singapore arent that bad lah... I've had my share of ONS and i don't think its how u look and the car you drive. I think its the way you present yourself and how you talk to a girl... first rule is you cant be too nice to the girl... i've seen guys give the girls the world and then they complain that the girl don't appreciate them. Us guys have to play it cool! it makes them want you more... knowing when to treat them nice and when to play it cool is the key. Then you can move from being the nice guy who aint gonna get laid.. to the cool dood the girls want to sleep with. Good luck!

[Rof|maoxz]

Interesting to see the flip side of singapore. Girls in singapore arent that bad lah... I've had my share of ONS and i don't think its how u look and the car you drive. I think its the way you present yourself and how you talk to a girl... first rule is you cant be too nice to the girl... i've seen guys give the girls the world and then they complain that the girl don't appreciate them. Us guys have to play it cool! it makes them want you more... knowing when to treat them nice and when to play it cool is the key. Then you can move from being the nice guy who aint gonna get laid.. to the cool dood the girls want to sleep with. Good luck!

SG gers are indeed of good quality. Even Ang Mos also agreed with me, right? :D But sometimes very strange one, the uglies and the riches catches the pretty ones, while the rest of us get virtually nothing, except those whom from foreign lands. You must have the right opportunity at the right time.