Stephen Leather's Private Dancer

[siamcutey]

Originally posted by free
Brudder,

Think about it. If the gal has not much education, no skills that can get her a good job, what can she do? Often times the tot of a sibling making it to the Uni and perhaps become the breakthru the whole family is seeking, plus giving her sibling a chance to have education (= good career, rightly or wrongly) that she never had is enough to drive a gal to this trade. In a sense, she is playing the role her parents could not.

Given her qualification and skillsets, what job/pay can she realistically get? While I dun think I will be able to bring myself t do this job, I can completely understand how she came to this conclusion to put aside her dignity (and even self respect) to do it. That is courage and sacrifice in the highest order, no less different than a mother who is willing sacrifice her life for her child to live, without even a 2nd tot.



There is no right and wrong. Yes, she may want to give the sibling a better education. But giving the sibling a better education, the sibling might become Uni gal FL too. The karma cycle still goes on.

Everyone wants a better life. No doubt about it. No one can say that the real intention of the elder sibling is to earn enough money for her younger sibling. It is up to individual to use it.

But as I said before, there are 101 reasons to justify an action which is being taken. Just that whether we can accept it or not.

1 last thing. What about those gals that are not borned prettier or more beautiful? Sadly they do not have the qualities to be an FL to support their siblings to studies. But, they still try to support their siblings to higher studies too.

The girls are just making use of their body, face and youth to make the most out of it. Don't use, its a waste right?

Nothing wrong with their actions too.

SC

[siamcutey]

Originally posted by free

As for the 30k thing, have u even heard of this thing called dowry? Yes, the figure is kindof high, but the concept is not at all unacceptable, unless of course u are a Westerner. I have seen for myself how a good USA frd broke up with the gal he loves & wanted to marry cos he could not accept the idea of having to exchange her hand in marriage for money. I told him that he is inflexible and loves his pride more than his gal, and he doesn;t understand this thing called filial piety - the Asian way. And it is no fault of the gal if her parents asked for more. Question is whether the guy can afford it. For me, if the gal is really the woman I want to marry and I am sure she feels the same, I wouldn;t even think twice if I can afford the amount asked for.

Excuse me guys,

We are now talking about Thai money which is 700K baht. Equivalent to 30+K SGD.
But today we talk from their currency point of view.

700K is about 70K to what we singaporeans think. Just like you eat roadside chicken rice at 20-25baht which is like what we singaporeans eat in kopitiam at $2-$2.50 for a plate of chicken rice.

Do you guys pay a dowry of $70K if you marry a sgp girl? I am not saying whether it is right or wrong to pay that amount, but I can say is that the family is taking advantage of the situation.

If today both marrying parties are of a higher society class stature, paying a high dowry will look good on both families. Our normal middle sgp family marry off the daughter don't even take so much for dowry.

And imagine that when someone in singapore quote that his dowry price is 30K SGD, people will say wah the female side, "Lion open Big Mouth". Correct? Not to even talk about 70K SGD.

But now we are talking about 700K to the Thais as dowry and you people are saying not even thinking twice of this amount? Is it considered selling the daughter or giving 700K to the family as a form of gratitude. You guys go and think.

If today in singapore, every family is asking for 70K sgd dowry, I think marriage rate will be very very low. The guys will not be able to get married.

Giving dowry is necessary, but not to the extent of being taken advantage of.

SC

[Inzaghi]

Bro,

The girls earn on average 1bonk=20bucks they earn,

Commoner(aka lao bai xing): 20 x 10 = 200(1 day)
200 x 27 = 5,400(1 month)
5400 x 24 = 129,600(2 yr)

Ang pai: 20 x 20 = 400(1 day)
400 x 27 = 10,800(1 month)
10800 x 24 = 259,200(2 yr)

Trust me, u won't be able to buy her out and if u really want to buy a girl out, I suggest u go vietnam get a wife for 12,000. Doctor certified virgin somemore.

That works out to be rough calculations only.

Bros,

70k to many of us is alot, but take note that they here being an ang pai, 7 mths can liaoz. Maybe even lesser time needed.

[Inzaghi]

Many ways to earn money. Earn more, spend more. Earn less, spend less.

(THIS IS COMMERCIAL SEX. PLS DUN FORGET. )

Very hard to sustain their demands lah. U r not obligated to do so. Don't forget they serve not only u. If only u take the trouble to browse through her customers list, I am afraid u may not be able to take it. I mean u stay somewhere near the house and look at every customer looking for her. All walks of life lah, yan dao kias got, rich guys, grandfathers, ang mos and of course people rejected by society. This was what I did last time. Low moral...

K, let's say the girl went back thai already. U call her everyday, e-mail, sms, whatever. Give u ticket fly over also no problem. What can she do when u not with her? Like joy, she does not want to be a kept animal. Nothing u can do to prevent her from straying. All women like yan daos, macho man just like we guys like chio bus, same everywhere.

Saw on discovery channel, the tribal girls going for 1 cow each. Some wulu place. Too bad singapore not like that. Sigh.

[Inzaghi]

Bro,

He went to bangkok with the intention to pursue his girl but when he was there at silom, her home town area, he paused. He was just nearby her house but he never go and see her. He is definitely not heartless. If heartless will not fly over just to see her. In fact, upon landing, he was running a fever in the hotel.

It all voice to money. The guy is not rich. When can he go and see her again. Future expenses? Her parents and relatives? His own parents?

I suggest u try to stay for sometime at thailand yourself first and see if u can adjust to it. Don't assume u can, do it! 1-2 yr at least. High chance people who wants to stay with their tiraks will have to stay in thailand cause the girls like it there.

One point to note is that u r a son. Any parents will hope that their son will take care of them when they r old. In fact, it is our duty. Without them, there will not be us. Spare a thought for your parents. Getting an ex-thai WL to singapore is practically, theoretically impossible for most of us, unless u damn rich or realatives of LKY but I swear he will kill u first.(Throw u at tekong on a thursday night just like the tekong thieves. They really lucky to be still alive. Now got to waste time and charge them. Heehee.) Only way is to go over. LOL

(Enemies tell the nice things and get friendship.
Friends tell the harsh things and get f***ed.
They rather u fuck them than u later kena f**k by others.)

Originally posted by Darkstorm
Sorry, what do u mean by "No one wants to see body" ?

Hmmm....what happened to this person u knew? Where is he now? Is it a happy ending? I would hate to be destined for failure...

Thanks, hope u find your happiness too...

Darkstorm

[thaigers]

Originally posted by yomun
I've no professional training at all. :D

I've already done my best. I have no regrets at all.:D

[Sornporn]

To prove your love for sg 30k, thats way too much. My friend who married a WL only pay 10k. And that to him he felt its alot already. But thank goodness, his wife is willing to come to sg and settle down with him. I think she got her PR as well.

Its never easy for us to marry WL. First of all, they only want the money when they choose this trade. Do you think its fun for a job to be bonk by strangers everytime?

Keeping long-distant relationship with them is always almost a guessing game. You never know whats going to happen next. The best solution is to stay there with them and they quit their trade and be with you, or you bring them over to marry and stay with you.

And as for the money issue, it can be very frustrating if your gal keep asking for it. Better be on your guard if it happens too often.

If its true love, I believe any WL won't want to stay in the trade anymore, cos they have found someone whom she can depends on.

As a fellow cheongster myself, it always good to keep your reality in check everytime. This not only applies to Thai culture, but it applies to all WL around the world. Just that Thai girls are the best in showing more care and concern among them all. That is the reason why men around the world are so enchanted by them.

[Phucker]

Originally posted by yomun
I've no professional training at all. :D

well....thats a surprise of the century....:D

shit man, we watch too much American idol liao....haha

[Hasa Sas]

Originally posted by Darkstorm
Greetings Mr. romance,

But if your friend feels it is a reasonable request, and the girl is sincere and not a con artist, and that she wants your friend to give her S$30,000 as proof of his committment and love, then I suppose I find it quite understandable.


Darkstorm

I'm surprised by your comment that it is understandable for a girl to ask for $30,000 as a proof of love.....only pig will fall into this trap..... how to differentiate between con artist especially a thai WL.
:rolleyes:

[MrDevil]

Originally posted by Darkstorm
Greetings Mr. romance,

it's very hard to comment as I do not know your friend or the TG in question, so I can't say I have the whole picture. So please bear in mind that my comments will be based on an incomplete picture.

I suppose any girl that asks u for money for marriage is someone I would generally be highly suspicious of. Is she in love with me, or with my money?

But if your friend feels it is a reasonable request, and the girl is sincere and not a con artist, and that she wants your friend to give her S$30,000 as proof of his committment and love, then I suppose I find it quite understandable.

For myself, if I really love the girl, and if I feel she is not trying to con me of my money, then my answer is "yes", I would fork out the S$30,000 as proof of my love. But I must be certain that she is not someone who is toying with my feelings or out to con me. I hope that answers your question?

Comments anyone?

Darkstorm

Putting anythings else aside, especially if she is out to con or not, which may beyond your or my level to judge at this moment, 70,000b could build a castle (depends where is her hometown), why do you need to use money to prove your love and sincerity? Of course, unless she eyeing nothing else but your money.

Money never prove sincerity of love, but just proving you have a deep gold mine that she can live on.

[easyeasy]

exactly love and money is 2 different issue.

love will come out from money, but money don't come out of love.

think thrice, think thrice

[Mr.romance]

Originally posted by siamcutey


1 last thing. What about those gals that are not borned prettier or more beautiful? Sadly they do not have the qualities to be an FL to support their siblings to studies. But, they still try to support their siblings to higher studies too.

The girls are just making use of their body, face and youth to make the most out of it. Don't use, its a waste right?

SC

Thumbs up..Lan jiao Bro...

I totally agree with u on this pointer...I cant imagine those "Langa Lorry" face becoming a prostitude...So must they go for plastic surgery to sell their body?

Did ever spoke to a Malaysian MP WL..Her reason for selling her body is actually to retire early to enjoy life

[Mr.romance]

Originally posted by siamcutey
Excuse me guys,



And imagine that when someone in singapore quote that his dowry price is 30K SGD, people will say wah the female side, "Lion open Big Mouth". Correct? Not to even talk about 70K SGD.

But now we are talking about 700K to the Thais as dowry and you people are saying not even thinking twice of this amount? Is it considered selling the daughter or giving 700K to the family as a form of gratitude. You guys go and think.

If today in singapore, every family is asking for 70K sgd dowry, I think marriage rate will be very very low. The guys will not be able to get married.

Giving dowry is necessary, but not to the extent of being taken advantage of.

SC

I immediately tell my friend when he told me about the 700,000 baht dowry..."Wah Lao..her cheebye made of diamond ah!!!"

[Mr.romance]

Originally posted by Sornporn
.


As a fellow cheongster myself, it always good to keep your reality in check everytime. This not only applies to Thai culture, but it applies to all WL around the world. Just that Thai girls are the best in showing more care and concern among them all. That is the reason why men around the world are so enchanted by them.

Tat one I agree..Tat type of feeling "Sibeh Song"
I cannot find Sg gals so caring & concern leh
:)

[siamcutey]

Originally posted by MrDevil
Putting anythings else aside, especially if she is out to con or not, which may beyond your or my level to judge at this moment, 70,000b could build a castle (depends where is her hometown), why do you need to use money to prove your love and sincerity? Of course, unless she eyeing nothing else but your money.

Money never prove sincerity of love, but just proving you have a deep gold mine that she can live on.

Some are not only eyeing the money. But also the singapore PR and citizenship. Not to forget that in any divorce situations later on, they are entitled to 1/2 of the man's assets.

Scary.

[Darkstorm]

Originally posted by siamcutey
Excuse me guys,

We are now talking about Thai money which is 700K baht. Equivalent to 30+K SGD.
But today we talk from their currency point of view.

700K is about 70K to what we singaporeans think. Just like you eat roadside chicken rice at 20-25baht which is like what we singaporeans eat in kopitiam at $2-$2.50 for a plate of chicken rice.

Do you guys pay a dowry of $70K if you marry a sgp girl? I am not saying whether it is right or wrong to pay that amount, but I can say is that the family is taking advantage of the situation.

If today both marrying parties are of a higher society class stature, paying a high dowry will look good on both families. Our normal middle sgp family marry off the daughter don't even take so much for dowry.

And imagine that when someone in singapore quote that his dowry price is 30K SGD, people will say wah the female side, "Lion open Big Mouth". Correct? Not to even talk about 70K SGD.

But now we are talking about 700K to the Thais as dowry and you people are saying not even thinking twice of this amount? Is it considered selling the daughter or giving 700K to the family as a form of gratitude. You guys go and think.

If today in singapore, every family is asking for 70K sgd dowry, I think marriage rate will be very very low. The guys will not be able to get married.

Giving dowry is necessary, but not to the extent of being taken advantage of.

SC

What, in your view, would be an acceptable dowry? (Let's limit the scope here to Thailand please) ( in Sing$)

[Darkstorm]

Originally posted by Mr.romance
Tat one I agree..Tat type of feeling "Sibeh Song"
I cannot find Sg gals so caring & concern leh
:)

Probably there are Sg girls who are the caring type also. But maybe not so many as compared to some other nationalities.

I have been thinking a lot about this, and I've been going through a number of posts here. I have come to think that if a girl truly likes u (whether she is WL or non-WL, whether she is Sg or non-Sg girl), she would be caring and concerned about u, and as Siamcutey said, she would not lie or be uncontactable. I would even go so far as to say matters of religion would not be a barrier. But if a girl doesn't like u, it would be very obvious (she can't lie or put up an act forever), and she can come up with any justification (no matter how silly) to dump u.

On another point, I recall a friend telling me that a relationship takes two hands to clap, it cannot be a one-sided affair. You cannot be the one showing concern all the time.

I am no expert in Boy-girl relationships.

Are my conclusions/hypotheses correct? Anyone wants to comment?

Darkstorm

[siamcutey]

Originally posted by Darkstorm
What, in your view, would be an acceptable dowry? (Let's limit the scope here to Thailand please) ( in Sing$)

In singapore, get the dowry prices you hear. Add one 0 behind and that is the how it should be.

Do not do currency exchange.

Example lets say you get $8888SGD for dowry in singapore, then in thailand should be around 88880 thai baht for a marriage lor.

Something like this. Not to far fetched like 700K baht. If its the rich marrying the rich, of course paying more represents their status.

SC

[Darkstorm]

Anyway, very tired of my current job already.......thinking of maybe writing something along the lines of Stephen Leather's Private Dancer, but a local version......will have time to do so only after I quit though.....and have the dubious honour of joining the ranks of the Singapore unemployed hahhaa......

Maybe can call it "A Singaporean Love story"....or " Geylang love" or something....or " A Singaporean's Public Dancer"......
:D

Any bros wanna give me some encouragement on this ? :D

Darkstorm

[Darkstorm]

Originally posted by MrDevil
Putting anythings else aside, especially if she is out to con or not, which may beyond your or my level to judge at this moment, 70,000b could build a castle (depends where is her hometown), why do you need to use money to prove your love and sincerity? Of course, unless she eyeing nothing else but your money.

Money never prove sincerity of love, but just proving you have a deep gold mine that she can live on.

Very sensible words indeed bro......as always, I find DrDevil's views a good reality-check......:)

Thanks for your perspective. The value of a sensible perspective is priceless.

Darkstorm

[MrDevil]

Originally posted by siamcutey
Some are not only eyeing the money. But also the singapore PR and citizenship. Not to forget that in any divorce situations later on, they are entitled to 1/2 of the man's assets.

Scary.

provided if both reached till that stage, but in anyhow she and her family is happily spending the 70k buildong their "castle" liao. Having said that, I am seen couple (WL with Msia guy) married without any dowry but you still escape of feeding her family, the question is how demanding is her family and how far she willing to go all out for you.

[MrDevil]

Originally posted by Darkstorm
Very sensible words indeed bro......as always, I find DrDevil's views a good reality-check......:)

Thanks for your perspective. The value of a sensible perspective is priceless.

Darkstorm

bcos i am out to cheong to enjoy good bonk, good companion, recharge with some warm and fresh feel, not into any "forever" relation. So the key is to "withdraw at the right time" before harming anyone, though chances are higher for you to harm yourselve more than her, but who knows the truth behind every tears that each puying drop for you.

[MrDevil]

Originally posted by yomun
Sometimes no matter how careful we are. Once in a while we'll thread back the sad fuck path every now and then. Myself included. Ain't no saint.

Always have to hammer my own head. Think with big head and not with the heart or small head. Must know when to pull back to reality. :D

the more careful you are, the harder you will fall when you meet the right one when the time is right. No man is saint, even saint may not able resist their tempation and seduction. Play the game along using their rules, when you turn the table around, you can always see things clearer from both perspective.

[Darkstorm]

Originally posted by yomun
Would love to hear your 'stories'.

Thanks for your encouragement Yomun,

really appreciate it :)

Darkstorm

[RJ2004]

Originally posted by Darkstorm
Probably there are Sg girls who are the caring type also. But maybe not so many as compared to some other nationalities.

I have been thinking a lot about this, and I've been going through a number of posts here. I have come to think that if a girl truly likes u (whether she is WL or non-WL, whether she is Sg or non-Sg girl), she would be caring and concerned about u, and as Siamcutey said, she would not lie or be uncontactable. I would even go so far as to say matters of religion would not be a barrier. But if a girl doesn't like u, it would be very obvious (she can't lie or put up an act forever), and she can come up with any justification (no matter how silly) to dump u.

On another point, I recall a friend telling me that a relationship takes two hands to clap, it cannot be a one-sided affair. You cannot be the one showing concern all the time.

I am no expert in Boy-girl relationships.

Are my conclusions/hypotheses correct? Anyone wants to comment?

Darkstorm

As what I have said in the GL thread. If the girl is head over heels about you, she will do anything to be with you. Little demands will be made and any extra things you do for her will make her happier. ;)

[Inzaghi]

Saw the show 'Intolerable cruelty' featuring CZJ(real one), got the pre-nuptial agreement leh, meaning an agreement sign so that if divorce, both sides get to keep their own properties, is there one anyway. If got, try to get her to sign lor.

Indeed, many other things like PR also very attractive.

Originally posted by siamcutey
Some are not only eyeing the money. But also the singapore PR and citizenship. Not to forget that in any divorce situations later on, they are entitled to 1/2 of the man's assets.

Scary.

[Mr.romance]

Originally posted by Darkstorm
Anyway, very tired of my current job already.......thinking of maybe writing something along the lines of Stephen Leather's Private Dancer, but a local version......will have time to do so only after I quit though.....and have the dubious honour of joining the ranks of the Singapore unemployed hahhaa......

Maybe can call it "A Singaporean Love story"....or " Geylang love" or something....or " A Singaporean's Public Dancer"......


Any bros wanna give me some encouragement on this ?

Darkstorm

U can contact me if u need a joint venture then.
Maybe I can be the assistant Journalist to provide u with more ideas.
:D

[Mr.romance]

Originally posted by RJ2004
As what I have said in the GL thread. If the girl is head over heels about you, she will do anything to be with you. Little demands will be made and any extra things you do for her will make her happier.

This wan I kind of agree. If she really love u...She hear your voice only without seeing u also sibeh song.tats why when a gal love u
she can usually provide u better sex..For some gals u don even need to spend a single cent on them..Some may even spend on u.
cheers
:)

[RJ2004]

Originally posted by Inzaghi
Saw the show 'Intolerable cruelty' featuring CZJ(real one), got the pre-nuptial agreement leh, meaning an agreement sign so that if divorce, both sides get to keep their own properties, is there one anyway. If got, try to get her to sign lor.

Indeed, many other things like PR also very attractive.

Such agreements are not legally binding in Singapore. :rolleyes:

[Sornporn]

Originally posted by Mr.romance
Tat one I agree..Tat type of feeling "Sibeh Song"
I cannot find Sg gals so caring & concern leh
:)

Sg gals are a different breed of animals. Used to good life and education, they think they can do it all.:confused:
Its the opposite here, the guys are showing the concern and caring more than the gals.

Me see so many sacrifices made by others. End up broken hearted. Come back to me and want to be Brother again.
Sometimes would like to ask them where were you 'Brother' when you were so caught up with your gal? But me understand too. Till now can't really understand Sg gals myself. Why the gals here like to show tamtrum? Nbzz

Sometimes, we can't be blame for choosing the 'Sad fuck' path. Just play by the game and as the Thai culture goes, there always the 'Up to you' attitude. So its up to us. Really.

[siamcutey]

Originally posted by Sornporn

Sometimes, we can't be blame for choosing the 'Sad fuck' path. Just play by the game and as the Thai culture goes, there always the 'Up to you' attitude. So its up to us. Really.

If a person con you 1 time, you learn a lesson out from it. If the person cons you a 2nd time, it means you didn't learn the lesson. If the person cons you persistently, you deserve to be conned cos you open yourself for others.

There is only so much others can do, but if one chooses to be like Pete to open himself up for slaughter, he can only blame himself.

SC

[tirak69]

Originally posted by siamcutey
If a person con you 1 time, you learn a lesson out from it. If the person cons you a 2nd time, it means you didn't learn the lesson. If the person cons you persistently, you deserve to be conned cos you open yourself for others.

There is only so much others can do, but if one chooses to be like Pete to open himself up for slaughter, he can only blame himself.

SC

this type of situation is called "zhi mi bu wu". cant blame them cos they fall too deep liao and beyond hope. can only wish them the best... hopefully escape unscathed.

[Darkstorm]

Originally posted by Mr.romance
U can contact me if u need a joint venture then.
Maybe I can be the assistant Journalist to provide u with more ideas.
:D

Sure thing man :) Thanks!

My writing skills are rusty now, but will attempt to polish it when the time comes...

Darkstorm

"I prefer Love to Sex any time. Love with Sex? Even better!"
(Darkstorm)

[Darkstorm]

Originally posted by yomun
All correct. This one post is worth more than some with 1000 rubbish posts. Well done.

Thanks for the compliment Yomun :)

It is an honour to receive a compliment from u :)

Darkstorm

[Sornporn]

Originally posted by siamcutey
If a person con you 1 time, you learn a lesson out from it. If the person cons you a 2nd time, it means you didn't learn the lesson. If the person cons you persistently, you deserve to be conned cos you open yourself for others.

There is only so much others can do, but if one chooses to be like Pete to open himself up for slaughter, he can only blame himself.

SC

One time enough lah. No need so many times.

[Sornporn]

"LAstly, regradin my issue..I am tryin to treat her like a prostitute but it seems to me my passion for her is too great to forget...
I had this feeling I may "Long BIa"(hit the wall) somemore to get more pain...Maybe you bros can be there to recommend some more good babes for me..heehee"

I call this post LOS syndrome. Just concentrate on what you do here and soon you will forget everything. Your next LOS expetition experience will soon take up a hugh chunck of memory in your brain. This one will soon be the past. Just enjoy those chionging moment while you still young. Life would be so much better when you grew older.
:)

[Mr.romance]

Originally posted by siamcutey
If a person con you 1 time, you learn a lesson out from it. If the person cons you a 2nd time, it means you didn't learn the lesson. If the person cons you persistently, you deserve to be conned cos you open yourself for others.

There is only so much others can do, but if one chooses to be like Pete to open himself up for slaughter, he can only blame himself.

SC

This type of people is a confirm disgrace to the society.
Shall give this type of people a nick" Chao Tao Ong"(king oF all roberts)
:D

[Mr.romance]

Originally posted by Sornporn
Sg gals are a different breed of animals. Used to good life and education, they think they can do it all.:confused:
Its the opposite here, the guys are showing the concern and caring more than the gals.

Me see so many sacrifices made by others. End up broken hearted. Come back to me and want to be Brother again.
Sometimes would like to ask them where were you 'Brother' when you were so caught up with your gal? But me understand too. Till now can't really understand Sg gals myself. Why the gals here like to show tamtrum? Nbzz

Sometimes, we can't be blame for choosing the 'Sad fuck' path. Just play by the game and as the Thai culture goes, there always the 'Up to you' attitude. So its up to us. Really.

I suddenly think of a friend who was dump by all his 3 ex Sg gf.
I guess he was too nice to them & all of them take him for granted.Maybe he met the wrong gals all the time...too bad..

[Sornporn]

Originally posted by Mr.romance
I suddenly think of a friend who was dump by all his 3 ex Sg gf.
I guess he was too nice to them & all of them take him for granted.Maybe he met the wrong gals all the time...too bad..

But then again lets not categorise Sg gals as uncaring and materialistic bunch. Remember our mother and sisters are also singaporean. It like bashing your own head with a hammer.

They have their own virtues as well. Maybe by not showing through like what the TG do. Our lifestyle are very fast pace and a highly stress one. The high costs of living and the need to survive in the fast pace and highly competitive corporate world, make us work like a maddog.

The fact that alot of these gals are willing juggle between working and family life is not really easy. I am sure our mum are very good example. Who wouldn't want a husband to provide everything and I stay at home to just take care of the house?

[siamcutey]

Originally posted by Mr.romance
I suddenly think of a friend who was dump by all his 3 ex Sg gf.
I guess he was too nice to them & all of them take him for granted.Maybe he met the wrong gals all the time...too bad..

Being dumped and being conned is 2 different thing.

I am still wondering why some people think SG girl buay gan while Thai girls deserve all the love. Because TG "Ao Jai Keng".

Really its a fact that Thai Girls "Ao Jai Keng Kwa" Sg Girls

Cheongster Dictionary
PS: Ao Jai Keng Kwa = GF Treatment more than

hahaha
SC

[delifrance]

Hi

put it simply and to quote a Sg girl's words after her eye-opening trips to LOS:

"Sg girls got a lot to learn from Thai girls."

A lot to learn from Philippino, Taiwanese, Mainland Chinese and especially Latin American girls.

Many thai girls have boyfriends at an extremely young age and they are in an environment where there are more women than men and where men choose and change women like clothes....therefore TG women become better skilled and adaptable than Sg women in taking the 'knocks' of a relationship, recovering from such shit and moving on and best of all....hunting the next sucker.

One special trait of TG and many non-Sg girls - enjoy the moment for the moment, dont calculate too much because it dampens the joy of the moment.

This is something that Sg girls (hookers or non-hookers) never really mastered but have attempted to master.

just an alternative view.....

[delifrance]

Hi All

sometimes we should just stop and think: what is the worth of HER attention to us....? And you have to cut your ego and desires away and think about it. Be it a hooker, a non-hooker, a bitch who peacocks her awesome looks in a Sg pub like Devil's Bar, Centro or even China Black or Jump or Lie Down or Stand Up White or whatever......what is the Worth of Her Attention to you?

think of it another way, what is the worth of your sincerity to a woman? Think of it really, not as an excuse to soothe your ego and say: ahhh...that woman is not worth it and walk away from the hunt/chase.

Ego, Fear and Inferiority complex drives people to give too much excuses for themselves .....or drives people to shower attention and love far beyond what is deemed rational.

When you love someone, are you clinging onto a psychological pillar and hoping to be loved in return? The beginning of learning what is real love starts at this level, people are different, they can look at this as the ultimate or just as a beginner's step.

just my two cents worth of opinion.

[Mr.romance]

Originally posted by delifrance
Hi

put it simply and to quote a Sg girl's words after her eye-opening trips to LOS:

"Sg girls got a lot to learn from Thai girls."

A lot to learn from Philippino, Taiwanese, Mainland Chinese and especially Latin American girls.

Many thai girls have boyfriends at an extremely young age and they are in an environment where there are more women than men and where men choose and change women like clothes....therefore TG women become better skilled and adaptable than Sg women in taking the 'knocks' of a relationship, recovering from such shit and moving on and best of all....hunting the next sucker.

One special trait of TG and many non-Sg girls - enjoy the moment for the moment, dont calculate too much because it dampens the joy of the moment.

This is something that Sg girls (hookers or non-hookers) never really mastered but have attempted to master.

just an alternative view.....

Thumbs up bro..Well said...A clap for u as a compliment

I jus wana say tat there are always pros & cons between TGs & Sg gals. Only one thing I truly enjoy with TG is they truly give more GF treatment & care .Even on the bed also. In regards to trust, I still prefer SG gals. Maybe so far i havent got conned by any SG gals as yet..But the level of trust for SG gals are still much higher

Wat u said is true TGs seems to enjoy BGR in earlier stage than SG gals.I guess tats one of the reason why they lost their Virginity at an earlier age also.From my experience with my TG,
She seems to be able to cope without any BF & she is only 21 this yr..Breaking off to her is jus like a cup of tea..
But I still wonder SG gals or TG are more emotional or maybe it all depends on individuals?

[Sornporn]

Originally posted by Mr.romance
But I still wonder SG gals or TG are more emotional or maybe it all depends on individuals?

Gals are all emotional animal be it SG or TG. Even WL are emotional. Just that most of them not really 'emotional' with you.

[Mr.romance]

Originally posted by Sornporn
Gals are all emotional animal be it SG or TG. Even WL are emotional. Just that most of them not really 'emotional' with you.

wat do u mean by not emotional with me? are u tryin to be sarcastic or is it meant to be a joke?

[Darkstorm]

Originally posted by Mr.romance
wat do u mean by not emotional with me? are u tryin to be sarcastic or is it meant to be a joke?

Bro Mr Romance, I think what Sornporn meant is not to be taken personally nor as sarcasm. I think what Sornporn meant by "you" is applicable to a person in general, and not really referring to you. Is that right Sornporn?

Darkstorm

"Have I spent my entire life trying to win the affection of one who does not, and will never love me?" - Darkstorm

[Mr.romance]

Originally posted by Darkstorm
Bro Mr Romance, I think what Sornporn meant is not to be taken personally nor as sarcasm. I think what Sornporn meant by "you" is applicable to a person in general, and not really referring to you. Is that right Sornporn?

Darkstorm

"Have I spent my entire life trying to win the affection of one who does not, and will never love me?" - Darkstorm

LOL..No Worries bro...This is just a forum..Anyone is free to make any comments. I just cant stand those who get personal tats all

Cheers

[Sornporn]

Originally posted by Mr.romance
wat do u mean by not emotional with me? are u tryin to be sarcastic or is it meant to be a joke?

Sorry, I am not referring to you. I should have type 'us' instead of 'you'.

I too get involve with TG like many bros here do. But till now have not get into that 'very serious' state. Have to point out what bro SC has mentioned. We are here and they are there. Talking over the phone with conversations like 'kit teung' here and there and ending with 'du la dua eng di di la'. Sometimes its makes me wonder whether all this come from their true feelings.

Although I do admit that Sg gals are not as good as TG at showing affectionate feelings. And I do miss that feeling where till now am not able to find that same level of feelings with any SG gals yet. Maybe that Sg gal that process such qualities is not destine for me. Could be some lucky guy holding her close right now while I am typing here.:D

That affectionate feelings that TG show could just be on appearence only. She could give that same kind of feelings to anyone else too. Keeping long-distant relationship I have to admit is quite a suffering. Maybe I am not as commited yet, could be my heart has not tell me to settle down yet. TG offer a good replacement for my lost relationship. My heart sometimes tells me to go all out, but somehow with the stories going around and my seasoned 'cheongster' friend who also advice me to just purely keep this as a 'Cheong' business deal. I think this kind of 'struggle within' is what many who ventured up north have to experience.

:)

[siamcutey]

Originally posted by Sornporn
Sorry, I am not referring to you. I should have type 'us' instead of 'you'.

I too get involve with TG like many bros here do. But till now have not get into that 'very serious' state. Have to point out what bro SC has mentioned. We are here and they are there. Talking over the phone with conversations like 'kit teung' here and there and ending with 'du la dua eng di di la'. Sometimes its makes me wonder whether all this come from their true feelings.

Although I do admit that Sg gals are not as good as TG at showing affectionate feelings. And I do miss that feeling where till now am not able to find that same level of feelings with any SG gals yet. Maybe that Sg gal that process such qualities is not destine for me. Could be some lucky guy holding her close right now while I am typing here.:D

That affectionate feelings that TG show could just be on appearence only. She could give that same kind of feelings to anyone else too. Keeping long-distant relationship I have to admit is quite a suffering. Maybe I am not as commited yet, could be my heart has not tell me to settle down yet. TG offer a good replacement for my lost relationship. My heart sometimes tells me to go all out, but somehow with the stories going around and my seasoned 'cheongster' friend who also advice me to just purely keep this as a 'Cheong' business deal. I think this kind of 'struggle within' is what many who ventured up north have to experience.

:)

WLs love to use "tirak", "kid teung", "rak khun" and many more mushy phrases. These phrases don't really mean anything. It's SOP phrases, to let the man hear, and reach half orgasm point.

The phrases don't mean anything, cos the phrases are worthless in my eyes. TGs don't express themselves like that so easily and often.

SC

[Mr.romance]

Originally posted by Sornporn
Sorry, I am not referring to you. I should have type 'us' instead of 'you'.

I too get involve with TG like many bros here do. But till now have not get into that 'very serious' state. Have to point out what bro SC has mentioned. We are here and they are there. Talking over the phone with conversations like 'kit teung' here and there and ending with 'du la dua eng di di la'. Sometimes its makes me wonder whether all this come from their true feelings.

Although I do admit that Sg gals are not as good as TG at showing affectionate feelings. And I do miss that feeling where till now am not able to find that same level of feelings with any SG gals yet. Maybe that Sg gal that process such qualities is not destine for me. Could be some lucky guy holding her close right now while I am typing here.:D

That affectionate feelings that TG show could just be on appearence only. She could give that same kind of feelings to anyone else too. Keeping long-distant relationship I have to admit is quite a suffering. Maybe I am not as commited yet, could be my heart has not tell me to settle down yet. TG offer a good replacement for my lost relationship. My heart sometimes tells me to go all out, but somehow with the stories going around and my seasoned 'cheongster' friend who also advice me to just purely keep this as a 'Cheong' business deal. I think this kind of 'struggle within' is what many who ventured up north have to experience.

:)

Hi Bro Sornporn,

Wat u say certainly makes some sense.Even some non WL are good in making fake speeches like "Kit Teung Kun" & "Pon Rak Kun". I guess their service oriented culture had more or less
make a difference in all these fake speeches

TGs are trained from Young by their parents to treat their guys
passionately & affectionately.At this modern society I will like to say 80% of the TGs still follow this culture which is quite similar to the Japanese.Tats why like wat Bro Delifrance say, SG gals had lots more to learn from them.I am not tryin to bring praises to TGs but of coz there are pros & cons to make up the difference between TGs & SG gals.I did realise tat in SG I no need to pay for my GF all the time but in BK I had to Pay & Pay especially when we go shopping.& its true tat TG feel good & proud whenever guys were to pay for them.

Getting serious with a TG will bring more problem compared to a Sg gal.The worst scenerio is tat she could be shaking a guys dick while talkin to you on the phone.In fact I was rubbing my TGs pussy while she was talkin to her mum on the phone..Can u imagine tat?

Its never easy like wat u say to keep a long distance relationship.
Especially when u had poured so much emotions cum attention on her. Sometimes how I wish I had "Qian LI yan"..haha

I just received a so called bad news yesterday unexpectedly.
tried calling my TG & her HP operator says "Sorry the number is not in Service"

Thoughts kept pouring from my brain:

Did she lost her HP?
Did she change a new line without informing me?
Did she forgot to pay her bills?
Did she cut off her line just to avoid me?
The least possiblity is she still alive?

Tried calling Hutchison to check on the line & they claimed the number is not in their profile & its a top up card number.

Sorry bros or maybe "Lan jiao bros can answer me" ...don really know how the telco operators in Thailand work...just wana check whether is there any way this line will be activated back if she paid up her bills or if she had lost her phone?

Cheers

[tirak69]

Originally posted by Mr.romance

I just received a so called bad news yesterday unexpectedly.
tried calling my TG & her HP operator says "Sorry the number is not in Service"

Thoughts kept pouring from my brain:

Did she lost her HP?
Did she change a new line without informing me?
Did she forgot to pay her bills?
Did she cut off her line just to avoid me?
The least possiblity is she still alive?

Tried calling Hutchison to check on the line & they claimed the number is not in their profile & its a top up card number.

Sorry bros or maybe "Lan jiao bros can answer me" ...don really know how the telco operators in Thailand work...just wana check whether is there any way this line will be activated back if she paid up her bills or if she had lost her phone?

Cheers

for sure she is still alive... the rest u have to figure out yourself. u can always call one of her friends. by the time you get hold of her she will give 101 reasons. by which time ur heart will melt and you will juz nod your head and accept whatever reason.

its ok... coz we are all men... and susceptible to such BS from TGs.

i am sure SC and yomun will add their 2 satangs worth.

[collin_23]

hire pi.

[collin_23]

msg her u strike toto. Very rich now. She will call u, don't worry.

[siamcutey]

Originally posted by tirak69
for sure she is still alive... the rest u have to figure out yourself. u can always call one of her friends. by the time you get hold of her she will give 101 reasons. by which time ur heart will melt and you will juz nod your head and accept whatever reason.

its ok... coz we are all men... and susceptible to such BS from TGs.

i am sure SC and yomun will add their 2 satangs worth.

hahaha,

There will always be Roy Hed Pon why their hp cannot call through.

For sure when she need money, she will find ways to contact you.

SC

[tirak69]

Originally posted by siamcutey
hahaha,

There will always be Roy Hed Pon why their hp cannot call through.

For sure when she need money, she will find ways to contact you.

SC

agree! wats new rite... :D

[Mr.romance]

Originally posted by siamcutey
hahaha,

There will always be Roy Hed Pon why their hp cannot call through.

For sure when she need money, she will find ways to contact you.

SC

I hope so..But my 6th sense tell me she wont contact me.
In Fact, I did not even give her a single cent ever since I came back to Singapore...although she demanded 2000 baht from me.
I only gave her 1000 baht before I left for Singapore during my last trip to Bk...Actually wanted to give her more but I was reluctant as I had already bought her more than 1000 baht worth of stuff at the weekend market.
Furthermore she did complaint tat I only gave her 1000bht before i left BK...haha..Who cares Men

[thaigers]

Originally posted by Mr.romance
I hope so..But my 6th sense tell me she wont contact me.
In Fact, I did not even give her a single cent ever since I came back to Singapore...although she demanded 2000 baht from me.
I only gave her 1000 baht before I left for Singapore during my last trip to Bk...Actually wanted to give her more but I was reluctant as I had already bought her more than 1000 baht worth of stuff at the weekend market.
Furthermore she did complaint tat I only gave her 1000bht before i left BK...haha..Who cares Men

bro,

in a relationship, once the girl start asking for money I think should dump her liao, unless the sex is damn fucking good. No point paying money to be in a relationship with a women, cos you know that the feelings are fake, you paid for it. No money, no tirak.

TG

[Mr.romance]

Met up with Bro Delifrance & an ex Lao Jiao Bro for la Kopi session yesterday.
Really enjoyed it although its just for 3 hours in the wee hours.
Both are very nice.Alot more to learn from them as their experience on their sleeves is like "Black belt" status.
Confirmed in my "Heavanly Kings" category.They even taught me how to deal with my TG If i am back in LOS...

Cheers


:)

[Mr.romance]

Originally posted by thaigers
bro,

in a relationship, once the girl start asking for money I think should dump her liao, unless the sex is damn fucking good. No point paying money to be in a relationship with a women, cos you know that the feelings are fake, you paid for it. No money, no tirak.

TG

Thanks bro,

But even if the sex is F***ing good also not worth keeping.
Still so many fishes in the pond..BTW after some enlightenment from Lao jiao bros, my level of forgetting her seems to improve tremendously. & in no time I will come to my senses

Cheers

[Darkstorm]

Originally posted by Mr.romance
Met up with Bro Delifrance & an ex Lao Jiao Bro for la Kopi session yesterday.
Really enjoyed it although its just for 3 hours in the wee hours.
Both are very nice.Alot more to learn from them as their experience on their sleeves is like "Black belt" status.
Confirmed in my "Heavanly Kings" category.They even taught me how to deal with my TG If i am back in LOS...

Cheers


:)

Hey Mr Romance, next time got such lim kopi sessions, be sure to include me? If I am free, I'll be sure to go!

Darkstorm

[tirak69]

Originally posted by thaigers
bro,

in a relationship, once the girl start asking for money I think should dump her liao, unless the sex is damn fucking good. No point paying money to be in a relationship with a women, cos you know that the feelings are fake, you paid for it. No money, no tirak.

TG

i beg to differ bro... it depends on what you are looking for. if you are not looking for a relationship with a WL i would suggest paying but do it in a more discreet manner if you do not want to make it so professional. eg, money for shopping etc... at least there are no emotional deposits involved.

as it is a business transaction, then it doesn't matter if its real or fake as long as they keep the customer happy. win-win for both parties as no one gets hurt... emotionally.

[thaigers]

if its a business transaction, the emotions must definitely be fake on the WL part. We pay them to make us happy emotionally, we pay to have a relationship with her. But, if its purely for sex then its ok to pay for this sexual relation, definitely not to pay her for feeling your emotionnal void.

I remembered going out with this WL from china. I was a newbie that time, fell for her every trap and not know. She worked in a Karaoke. I ask her out, and she went out with me. But she say i have to pay her for her 'loss of income' for going out with me. ok fine. We had sex the first time also. she didnt ask for money. Thought she really like me. Subsequently when I ask her out, she also ask for money. Like go to movie liao ask me give her $50, and then she goes back to the karoake. I thought , what the fuck. see movie still have to pay her money. Then i tell her, if i have to pay her to see her, its a business transaction. and she said so too. She said will I pay her money every month if I wanna see her etc. I thought what the fuck, if ihave to pay to be with her, its all fake. cos i know once i stop giving her money, the relationship will end too.
So i thought, why not cut the losses now??? Instead of paying until my money runs out..........

[Darkstorm]

Originally posted by thaigers
if its a business transaction, the emotions must definitely be fake on the WL part. We pay them to make us happy emotionally, we pay to have a relationship with her. But, if its purely for sex then its ok to pay for this sexual relation, definitely not to pay her for feeling your emotionnal void.

I remembered going out with this WL from china. I was a newbie that time, fell for her every trap and not know. She worked in a Karaoke. I ask her out, and she went out with me. But she say i have to pay her for her 'loss of income' for going out with me. ok fine. We had sex the first time also. she didnt ask for money. Thought she really like me. Subsequently when I ask her out, she also ask for money. Like go to movie liao ask me give her $50, and then she goes back to the karoake. I thought , what the fuck. see movie still have to pay her money. Then i tell her, if i have to pay her to see her, its a business transaction. and she said so too. She said will I pay her money every month if I wanna see her etc. I thought what the fuck, if ihave to pay to be with her, its all fake. cos i know once i stop giving her money, the relationship will end too.
So i thought, why not cut the losses now??? Instead of paying until my money runs out..........

Glad u managed to pull yourself out of it.

[Mr.romance]

Originally posted by siamcutey
hahaha,

There will always be Roy Hed Pon why their hp cannot call through.

For sure when she need money, she will find ways to contact you.

SC

Bro u very "Zhun" leh...My Tg just called me yesterday..Nearly choked when she called

However she did not ask any $ from me this time.Probably its part of her strategy not to demand yet.& furthermore she knew tat I will visit her next mth.BTW her reason for
her line cut off is tat she had lost her HP. She is now using a 2nd hand Hp bought from her friend..I suan her straight away.."Now u got money to buy HP hah??"..She replied " Its cheap!"...Who cares whther its cheap or not cheap..But i Forgot to ask her wat model is her Hp..I tested her before i hang up..."Kun rak pom mai"...She replied "Rak"...haha..Luckily I take it as a pitch of salt...I always remember wat "Lan Jiao" bros taught me here..
Trust them 50% only..I think 50% is too much...48.9% will be better...

:D

[Mr.romance]

Originally posted by Darkstorm
Hey Mr Romance, next time got such lim kopi sessions, be sure to include me? If I am free, I'll be sure to go!

Darkstorm

Well..Pm me ur contact then..

[Darkstorm]

Originally posted by Mr.romance
Well..Pm me ur contact then..

Done :)

[keet]

extracts from nanapong.com
================================

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-12-inch high silver moon boots
-vinyl jumpsuit with accessory pocket
-mobile phone w/flashing lights and extra-loud ringing tone
-lifetime membership at Daeng's Serm Suay Beauty Shop
-phone list of 384 long stay punters for guaranteed cash on slow nights
-fully furnished 3.6m x 4m room with squat toilet at wat-bum
-senning fan and 2 mun prepaid rent (by boyfren fum Switterlan)
-woeful "request for funds" letters in 63 tragic scenarios and 4 languages

[delifrance]

Hi Mr Romance

thanks for the compliment but I dont think I am still up to TG's standards - they are playing men full time since young and I dont play TGs full time since young, that's the gap between us and them.

If Bro Keet is formerly known as Bro H Ngoo, then I'll have to ask Bro Keet if he is going to be in Bkk or out in the countryside of Thailand during Songkran, are you going to load a truck with girls and go playing Songkran this time?

[siamcutey]

Originally posted by delifrance
Hi Mr Romance

thanks for the compliment but I dont think I am still up to TG's standards - they are playing men full time since young and I dont play TGs full time since young, that's the gap between us and them.

If Bro Keet is formerly known as Bro H Ngoo, then I'll have to ask Bro Keet if he is going to be in Bkk or out in the countryside of Thailand during Songkran, are you going to load a truck with girls and go playing Songkran this time?

Hahaha, but I think you going to play TGs full time till old. Thats the gap between them and you

hahaha
SC

[collin_23]

wah....only minus 1.1%. Like taiwan election. Heehee.LOL.

Originally posted by Mr.romance
Bro u very "Zhun" leh...My Tg just called me yesterday..Nearly choked when she called

However she did not ask any $ from me this time.Probably its part of her strategy not to demand yet.& furthermore she knew tat I will visit her next mth.BTW her reason for
her line cut off is tat she had lost her HP. She is now using a 2nd hand Hp bought from her friend..I suan her straight away.."Now u got money to buy HP hah??"..She replied " Its cheap!"...Who cares whther its cheap or not cheap..But i Forgot to ask her wat model is her Hp..I tested her before i hang up..."Kun rak pom mai"...She replied "Rak"...haha..Luckily I take it as a pitch of salt...I always remember wat "Lan Jiao" bros taught me here..
Trust them 50% only..I think 50% is too much...48.9% will be better...

:D

[Hasa Sas]

Originally posted by keet
orh.... ok young fark.. was just asking. :confused:

i think there's no heavenly kings here lah... that was made up by others, and i dont see anyone claiming the title leh..

Are u KT ?HAHAHAHAHA :D

[keet]

Originally posted by Hasa Sas
Are u KT ?HAHAHAHAHA :D

huh? u mean OKT?? :p

[keet]

Originally posted by delifrance
Hi Mr Romance

thanks for the compliment but I dont think I am still up to TG's standards - they are playing men full time since young and I dont play TGs full time since young, that's the gap between us and them.

If Bro Keet is formerly known as Bro H Ngoo, then I'll have to ask Bro Keet if he is going to be in Bkk or out in the countryside of Thailand during Songkran, are you going to load a truck with girls and go playing Songkran this time?

bro Deli..

wah... sounds like fun to have truck load of gals during Songkran leh.. :D
think alot of former bros MIA liao lah.. :cool:

[Hasa Sas]

Originally posted by keet
huh? u mean OKT?? :p

KT...haha:D

[keet]

Originally posted by Hasa Sas
KT...haha:D

wats that?? :confused:

[Hasa Sas]

Originally posted by keet
wats that?? :confused:


Alright :D Going bangkok or Hatyai?

[Mr.romance]

Originally posted by keet
bro Deli..

wah... sounds like fun to have truck load of gals during Songkran leh.. :D
think alot of former bros MIA liao lah.. :cool:

U sound like u are the one Bro deli had known long time ago...
Don reject my invitation for a cheonging session with u leh?
BTW did u check my PM to u?

Cheers

[Mr.romance]

Originally posted by delifrance
Hi Mr Romance

thanks for the compliment but I dont think I am still up to TG's standards - they are playing men full time since young and I dont play TGs full time since young, that's the gap between us and them.

If Bro Keet is formerly known as Bro H Ngoo, then I'll have to ask Bro Keet if he is going to be in Bkk or out in the countryside of Thailand during Songkran, are you going to load a truck with girls and go playing Songkran this time?

Don be so humble leh..

:cool:

[Darkstorm]

Originally posted by siamcutey



Now I can speak the Thai Language. next year will be the time where I seriously get down to reading and writing it. The day when I accomplished that, I will read out to Nana the thai newspapers. My personal accomplishment where she said it was impossible.

hahaha
SC [/B]

Actually, I was very touched by this...

Darkstorm

[keet]

Originally posted by Mr.romance
U sound like u are the one Bro deli had known long time ago...
Don reject my invitation for a cheonging session with u leh?
BTW did u check my PM to u?

Cheers

bro.. me no cheong liao leh.
anyway just replied your PM.

[delifrance]

Hi Bro Keet

yeah, take turns to drive the pickup if there are enough guys. Some may prefer to do it in Bkk and the surrounding areas, last year I was in Lake Phayao and Chiang Rai, it was very interesting but I stayed all cooped up in the car....SARS......kena wet and tired very easy to get all sorts of attacks and the immune system will be definitely weakened.

me...still cheonging TGs? I dont think liao....I prefer to play Vulture, dont want to hunt liao....just sit and wait and smile....

[Mr.romance]

Originally posted by delifrance
Hi Bro Keet

yeah, take turns to drive the pickup if there are enough guys. Some may prefer to do it in Bkk and the surrounding areas, last year I was in Lake Phayao and Chiang Rai, it was very interesting but I stayed all cooped up in the car....SARS......kena wet and tired very easy to get all sorts of attacks and the immune system will be definitely weakened.

me...still cheonging TGs? I dont think liao....I prefer to play Vulture, dont want to hunt liao....just sit and wait and smile....

Bro Deli

Sianz leh..u don cheong leow...I got this feeling I will
cheong with my green horn friend in BK...PM
some laojiao bros but not one replied except for Bro Keet who has retired...


Cheers
:o

[Mr.romance]

Originally posted by keet
bro.. me no cheong liao leh.
anyway just replied your PM.

Can still la kopi mah???...Bro Deli sure come one..
Tio Boh bro Deli..

[Darkstorm]

Originally posted by siamcutey


I always apply this theory. Whatever a thai girl say to you, only believe 50%. She may be your girlfriend, your wife or the girl you loved most in life, but still only believe 50%.

Time will tell why only believe 50%.

SC [/B]

Wouldn't it be better then to get a girl of a different nationality?
Eg: vietnamese girls...it is widely said that they make good wives.

Wouldn't it be foolish to get into a relationship with a thai girl (WL or non-WL) then, based on your theory?

Darkstorm

[siamcutey]

Originally posted by Darkstorm
Wouldn't it be better then to get a girl of a different nationality?
Eg: vietnamese girls...it is widely said that they make good wives.

Wouldn't it be foolish to get into a relationship with a thai girl (WL or non-WL) then, based on your theory?

Darkstorm

U don't understand the theory. Trusting 50% means you do not get uptight or edgy whenever she is not around you and tells you something that you cannot verify cos you can't see it.

SC

[Darkstorm]

Originally posted by siamcutey
U don't understand the theory. Trusting 50% means you do not get uptight or edgy whenever she is not around you and tells you something that you cannot verify cos you can't see it.

SC

I believe I understand your point...that 50% of their "explanations" is true.....but what I mean is, knowing that Thai girls are like that (applying your theory), isn't unwise to even contemplate entering into a genuine boy-girl relationship with a Thai girl in the 1st place? I don't think most guys like their girl to be honest only 50% of the time. It doesn't make sense to be in a relationship with a girl who has a tendency to be untrustworthy.

And yet, many still fall for this type of girl it seems.

Darkstorm

[delifrance]

because it's not a normal relationship, it's like a roller coaster ride, the thrill is there.

there's also another point: the mind says 'let go', the heart pines and says 'forgive and start again, no one is perfect, more so for this kind of girl...training a turtle to fly like an eagle?...maybe", the dick says "shiok man, try to have another go when you are ready", the spirit says: "hey man, i'm too lazy to hunt better quality stuff, let's just swim around in this toxic pond and enjoy, anyway I can quit anytime I want"

[siamcutey]

I believe I understand your point...that 50% of their "explanations" is true.....but what I mean is, knowing that Thai girls are like that (applying your theory), isn't unwise to even contemplate entering into a genuine boy-girl relationship with a Thai girl in the 1st place? I don't think most guys like their girl to be honest only 50% of the time. It doesn't make sense to be in a relationship with a girl who has a tendency to be untrustworthy.

And yet, many still fall for this type of girl it seems.

Darkstorm

To me, I see an SG girl can trust 85% while a Thai girl can trust 50%. The difference in culture, learning curve from young is the main reason. Just like why do WLs feel that being in the prostitution biz can be a career for them while to SG girls, they have a whole different view if they hear the word prostitution.

Being in one widens your own eyes and knowledge, and this is something which your school don't teach you. Though not advisable for everyone to take up the course too.

SC

[thaigers]

because it's not a normal relationship, it's like a roller coaster ride, the thrill is there.

there's also another point: the mind says 'let go', the heart pines and says 'forgive and start again, no one is perfect, more so for this kind of girl...training a turtle to fly like an eagle?...maybe", the dick says "shiok man, try to have another go when you are ready", the spirit says: "hey man, i'm too lazy to hunt better quality stuff, let's just swim around in this toxic pond and enjoy, anyway I can quit anytime I want"

that's right delifrance. this is exactly how i feel recently when i unkowingly got involved with a WL.......

[tirak69]

U don't understand the theory. Trusting 50% means you do not get uptight or edgy whenever she is not around you and tells you something that you cannot verify cos you can't see it.

SC

as i said before. as long as it is a long distanance relationship and wif a TG, my advice is to accept what they tell u and dun dig into it. everyone will be happier this way.

as much as u may/may not trust her, its also the same for her. dats why sometimes they call late at night or afternoons of weekends. they will also test u if they really like u... at the end of the day it cuts both ways.

[Mr.romance]

Just spoke to my TG today. She told me she is currently working
at a new restaurant cum pub at Radchada. Any bros heard of any new
restaurant cum pub that just opened there few days back?. She is smart enough to sense my distrust in her...So she questioned me:" You dont trust me ah?".
Although deep inside my heart I only trust her 48.9%..I still answered her
promptly:"OF Coz I Do..."Later I add on " Pom Rak kun mak mak"
I told her I heard many TGs in Thailand easily slept with men for $..She replied:"It depends on the gal itself"..Haha I just laughed it off..I will see wat game she gonna play when I see her in my upcoming trip to BK...

Cheers

[siamcutey]

Just spoke to my TG today. She told me she is currently working
at a new restaurant cum pub at Radchada. Any bros heard of any new
restaurant cum pub that just opened there few days back?. She is smart enough to sense my distrust in her...So she questioned me:" You dont trust me ah?".
Although deep inside my heart I only trust her 48.9%..I still answered her
promptly:"OF Coz I Do..."Later I add on " Pom Rak kun mak mak"
I told her I heard many TGs in Thailand easily slept with men for $..She replied:"It depends on the gal itself"..Haha I just laughed it off..I will see wat game she gonna play when I see her in my upcoming trip to BK...

Cheers

Don't tell me its the place that once infamously plays the Hula Hoop, with the girls on the bartop following by the dj mix Puad Jai?

SC

[siamcutey]

Just spoke to my TG today. She told me she is currently working
at a new restaurant cum pub at Radchada. Any bros heard of any new
restaurant cum pub that just opened there few days back?. She is smart enough to sense my distrust in her...So she questioned me:" You dont trust me ah?".
Although deep inside my heart I only trust her 48.9%..I still answered her
promptly:"OF Coz I Do..."Later I add on " Pom Rak kun mak mak"
I told her I heard many TGs in Thailand easily slept with men for $..She replied:"It depends on the gal itself"..Haha I just laughed it off..I will see wat game she gonna play when I see her in my upcoming trip to BK...

Cheers

By the way, the amount you trust her is the same as the amount she trusts you.

hahaha
SC

[siamcutey]

Think you too long never go liao. They don't play those songs anymore.

Nan - Hula Hoop (DJ. Tee Red Beat Mix)

Track 15
http://www.thailandcd.com/detail.asp?txt_id=aud0352

By the way. Fuck the Taiwan group R&B for covering this song. Their version sucks.

Eh, read carefully. "once infamously"

hahaha
SC

[Mr.romance]

as much as u may/may not trust her, its also the same for her. dats why sometimes they call late at night or afternoons of weekends. they will also test u if they really like u... at the end of the day it cuts both ways.

Wat about those TG Who usually don call u..While we do most of the calling?
:confused:

[thaigers]

Wat about those TG Who usually don call u..While we do most of the calling?
:confused:

Good question. What about those who call you all the time when they are here and when they go back, they dont call or sms??

Well, actually to sms or call from thailand to other countries is quite expensive, I think, maybe that is why they dont do it, or is it??

anyone know about the Siam zone Mobile zone thai sms for free? i use that to send thai sms to her, wonder if she got it????

[siamcutey]

Good question. What about those who call you all the time when they are here and when they go back, they dont call or sms??

Well, actually to sms or call from thailand to other countries is quite expensive, I think, maybe that is why they dont do it, or is it??

anyone know about the Siam zone Mobile zone thai sms for free? i use that to send thai sms to her, wonder if she got it????

Then at least should send you a letter right?

As for expensive or not, that is not the issue. Because if the girl love you, she will do a lot of things for you. If she don't give a flying fuck, do 1 thing for you also buay kei yan.

You should heard of those stories where the GL girl before go back always call the guy, when go back home, who is who also forget liao.

SC

[RJ2004]

Good question. What about those who call you all the time when they are here and when they go back, they dont call or sms??

Well, actually to sms or call from thailand to other countries is quite expensive, I think, maybe that is why they dont do it, or is it??

anyone know about the Siam zone Mobile zone thai sms for free? i use that to send thai sms to her, wonder if she got it????
down here, call all the regulars to keep their businesses. go back, no need those business liao so stop calling lor. its all about business :)

[siamcutey]

down here, call all the regulars to keep their businesses. go back, no need those business liao so stop calling lor. its all about business :)
Wah, you so straight forward. Frankly, its sometimes better to know the truth (which hurts) than to wallow in fantasy.

SC

[thaigers]

Then at least should send you a letter right?

As for expensive or not, that is not the issue. Because if the girl love you, she will do a lot of things for you. If she don't give a flying fuck, do 1 thing for you also buay kei yan.

You should heard of those stories where the GL girl before go back always call the guy, when go back home, who is who also forget liao.

SC

you two got a point there, and i have thought about those points as well. yes, she may like me, but she also know that because of the circumstances, she would rather let it go. Same for me.

Calling their customers and regular is part of their CRM when they are here. That is why i didnt bother picking up her calls when she called.

What i dont understand is, why does she wanna keep up the CRM when she is going to leave? I overnite her 2 days before she called to tell me she is quitting. I do not think she plan to quit, its like all of a sudden, she just tell me she wanna quit. So after hearing that, I dont even get a chance to bonk her again because they cant work when they say they wanna quit.

After she announced she quit, she still call and sms me and asked me out and asked me to go to the airport. Surely I will not be her customer here anymore after she says she quit. So why carry on all these CRM?? She has also displayed concern for me, asked me dont go geylang waste money, ask me to save the money and visit her in BKK for a holiday. She asked if will I go and visit her. I told her sure. She did not seem to believe me and asked , SURE???

KNN, if i think that she really want me to go, of course I will go lah. But i feel that she was asking for the sake of asking only.....

So why all the CRM before she left?? This is the only thing that i am confused about :confused: I wanna know the truth (whether she really like me), but I aint getting any..which hurts even more........

[thaigers]

... Her concerns for you are just some good will as she regards you as jai dee person.

knowing this is good enough for me.......



Kekeke you also another one who wants to know whether you're THE ONE. Recently got one friend also like that. If you've any doubts at all. That means you're not THE ONE. You'll get a very clear hint from her if you're really THE ONE. Please move on and make more money for your future girlfriend/wife and have a successful career. Everything will fall in place one day once you have $$$. Money is not everything but it helps to facilitate many matters.

Actually I am not sure if I wanna know if I am THE ONE. I know for sure I am not THE ONLY ONE. I will be happy to know that she has treated me as a friend. Saying that, really feel sad that she will going into the same profession in BKK......

[Sundaytimes]

joop dai mai :D


knowing this is good enough for me.......



Actually I am not sure if I wanna know if I am THE ONE. I know for sure I am not THE ONLY ONE. I will be happy to know that she has treated me as a friend. Saying that, really feel sad that she will going into the same profession in BKK......

[Darkstorm]

knowing this is good enough for me.......



Actually I am not sure if I wanna know if I am THE ONE. I know for sure I am not THE ONLY ONE. I will be happy to know that she has treated me as a friend. Saying that, really feel sad that she will going into the same profession in BKK......

Actually, I envy u that she has been honest with u on this.

Darkstorm

[Darkstorm]

you two got a point there, and i have thought about those points as well. yes, she may like me, but she also know that because of the circumstances, she would rather let it go. Same for me.

Calling their customers and regular is part of their CRM when they are here. That is why i didnt bother picking up her calls when she called.

What i dont understand is, why does she wanna keep up the CRM when she is going to leave? I overnite her 2 days before she called to tell me she is quitting. I do not think she plan to quit, its like all of a sudden, she just tell me she wanna quit. So after hearing that, I dont even get a chance to bonk her again because they cant work when they say they wanna quit.

After she announced she quit, she still call and sms me and asked me out and asked me to go to the airport. Surely I will not be her customer here anymore after she says she quit. So why carry on all these CRM?? She has also displayed concern for me, asked me dont go geylang waste money, ask me to save the money and visit her in BKK for a holiday. She asked if will I go and visit her. I told her sure. She did not seem to believe me and asked , SURE???

KNN, if i think that she really want me to go, of course I will go lah. But i feel that she was asking for the sake of asking only.....

So why all the CRM before she left?? This is the only thing that i am confused about :confused: I wanna know the truth (whether she really like me), but I aint getting any..which hurts even more........

Are u a rich guy? Do u consider yourself rich? Does she consider u rich?
If u r rich (however this is defined), then there is the chance that she wants u for your money.

Darkstorm

[siamcutey]

knowing this is good enough for me.......



Actually I am not sure if I wanna know if I am THE ONE. I know for sure I am not THE ONLY ONE. I will be happy to know that she has treated me as a friend. Saying that, really feel sad that she will going into the same profession in BKK......

After a while, you will move on with it and you will be talking about your next good bonk. Sad also no use, cos it can't help her.

SC

[Mr.romance]

Then at least should send you a letter right?

SC

haha..tats a good one.But now slightly more high tech leow..They are starting to send through e-mail instead of letter....
But funny thing is I always send e-mail to my TG to her Thaimail account but bounces back very often especially when the information exceeds 2kbytes ...& she claims she send me e-mail many times but i did not receive any..Til now I am still scratching my head over this issue

[Hasa Sas]

knowing this is good enough for me.......



Actually I am not sure if I wanna know if I am THE ONE. I know for sure I am not THE ONLY ONE. I will be happy to know that she has treated me as a friend. Saying that, really feel sad that she will going into the same profession in BKK......

It is an illusion and u will be fine when it's over :)

[RJ2004]

i am now also thinking about the THE ONE issue. it's one big game and i'm not close to winning. it's like poker... i've got the bad cards but have to pull a poker face as if i'm ace-ing.
it's hard. and she probably knows how it's like.
then again, she may not even care. i come, i buy beer, she take a dollar... drink finish, i fuck off. why should she care so much?

you already lost if you think its a game la. cos its not a game, YOU are the game (to be hunted). so no point coming here asking for opinions if you want to play becos everything has been repeated over and over again. you will carry on no matter wad others say. i have read your thread about that gal and frankly i got nothing to say to it oso la.

[siamcutey]

haha..tats a good one.But now slightly more high tech leow..They are starting to send through e-mail instead of letter....
But funny thing is I always send e-mail to my TG to her Thaimail account but bounces back very often especially when the information exceeds 2kbytes ...& she claims she send me e-mail many times but i did not receive any..Til now I am still scratching my head over this issue

What good one? Last time me and my ex-tirak use letters.

SC

[thaigers]

Are u a rich guy? Do u consider yourself rich? Does she consider u rich?
If u r rich (however this is defined), then there is the chance that she wants u for your money.

Darkstorm

i dont think I will ever turn crown prince......... :p

when i am with someone in the 'service industry', for me its very simple, when they start asking for money(if i think they just want money because they kept me company), I am out.

[Darkstorm]

I have been thinking again...the path taken by one who falls for a Working Lady (WL) is not an easy one. One goes against the advice and moral norms of friends, family and society at large. It is a lonely path to walk upon. It really is the road less travelled, and fraught with much peril.

Imagine being in such a relationship, or your heart pining for a WL. And u need to pour out your heart's troubles. Who's going to want to hear u out? Would any of your 'decent' friends want to listen to u? Will they even have the patience to hear u out? Your family? Most would not want their family to know. Would any of them understand what your mind is going through?

Maybe we should form a support group for 'fallen' comrades or something. Just some thoughts.

Darkstorm :(

[thaigers]

There's the Alcoholic's Annoymous Group. You're suggesting for a Tirak Annoymous Group? Hehe.

End of the day join what groups also no use if one wants to walk the sad fuck path. :D

May i suggest "The Sad Fuck" group then??? :D

[delifrance]

Hi pple

Telling you that she works in a new restaurant is nothing more than a pacifier for you. For Mr Romance, it's like this - to prevent a baby from crying, the mother shoves her breast into her baby's mouth....keep the baby happy. That's what she is doing to you.

leaving the chicken business and still keeping contacts with her customers is simply this: you are not the only fish in the ocean or market and there's a thing called 'divorce' even if you are married.

telling you to save money and not go Geylang - you have more money now, part of it can be spent on her for her use or for both of you to benefit. Nothing is wasted on her advice - she benefits somehow because you are generous and soft-hearted enough to spend on her or share your resources with her.

Honesty is part of Loyalty, it does not equate to Loyalty because Loyalty have more components like Commitment. A girl who gives you her honesty can disappear from you when she does something wrong to break your heart or a shared agreement....especially if you want to confront her in your righteous anger. She doesnt need to take chatisement from you or should I say: she doesnt need to take shit from you. She needs to receive nice things from you. That's the Thai mentality.

Unless a girl or thai girl or WL of yours does and keeps on doing things that has no benefit for her and for you over time, you can consider her a bit better than the normal type of person who will be committed to you for a long-term happiness.

[delifrance]

Hi Mr Romance

another thing about email - she doesnt bother to check her email account. She needs to go to an Internet Cafe to pay money to check her email account, obviously her email account is jammed with other emails by other guys and junk mail. She emailed you many times? think carefully.......put yourself into her shoes and look at how you are playing the game with her? Enough reason for her to email you when you call her and tell her that you are coming to Bkk? *small grin*

I have met WL who swear that they will never marry or go into a serious relationship with men who fell in love with them through their WL (working life) and some of the stronger WLs keep to their oaths. Think of why they think this way, even if you are one hell of a handsome and rich guy.

One question for all friends who are in Bkk now: Since Orbit is having their anniversary, can someone check for me if the Manager called Ms Ratchanee is still working there? She is one cool lady that I admire and know in person. She is formerly from Forte Fashion Fashion house where she worked as a mama-san and the last time I've met her is in Orbit. She has style and does not show-off, her picture is inside Orbit, along with the other posters of the dancing girls and better looking hostesses.

Thanks.

[Darkstorm]

There's the Alcoholic's Annoymous Group. You're suggesting for a Tirak Annoymous Group? Hehe.

End of the day join what groups also no use if one wants to walk the sad fuck path. :D

Heh heh....in life, there are Winners......and Losers!

In order for someone to win, someone must lose. I just wish it wouldn't be me.
:D

Darkstorm

[keet]

Heh heh....in life, there are Winners......and Losers!

In order for someone to win, someone must lose. I just wish it wouldn't be me.
:D

Darkstorm


bro..u da one post in sawadee forum ah?

[tirak69]

won't happen in bkk... mii phoo ying yer yer. keep hitting the joints... sure hit jackpot one day....

[Darkstorm]

bro..u da one post in sawadee forum ah?

Yes.....the one and the same....I'm also in the sawadee forum :cool:

U meeting us this sat? with 88max?

Darkstorm

[Darkstorm]

won't happen in bkk... mii phoo ying yer yer. keep hitting the joints... sure hit jackpot one day....

My level of Thai not that high yet......mii phoo ying yer yer = have a lot of Thai girls in Bkk?

What u mean by hit jackpot= find the right girl/tirak?

Darkstorm :confused:

[tirak69]

yup... girls are aplenty in bkk... sure got one day find the right one... but good one from the night scene is like needle in a haystack. good luck bro!

[Mr.romance]

yup... girls are aplenty in bkk... sure got one day find the right one... but good one from the night scene is like needle in a haystack. good luck bro!
Wah..Which is to say If u happen to find a good TG there is like gana TOTO already..BTW Bro..U & SC very dao leh...PM both of u for ur contact but til now no reply leh
:)

[tirak69]

i am refering to WLs... can be from any country... if decent working girls chances of course higher lah... dun generalise all TGs leh... i think they deserve some respect too.

check ur PM... me damn busy trying to close deal together with yomun... alot of entertaining... siong man!

[delifrance]

Hi all

true, generalize all women and you'll get into trouble. there are stereotypes and there are non-stereotypes.

Note: Bro Keet, can you pm me your thai and Sg contact number? may need to contact you very soon.

Thanks.

[Hasa Sas]

bro..u da one post in sawadee forum ah?


Bro..you still so active as before
:)

[keet]

Bro..you still so active as before
:)

well.. if u dun mind to PM me as to who u really are, than to "stalk" me.. :p

[Darkstorm]

Hi Keet...mind if I ask what is your nick in Sawatdee Forum?

:)

[keet]

Hi Keet...mind if I ask what is your nick in Sawatdee Forum?

:)

answer is somewhere in your answer :cool:

[tirak69]

Now all diam diam? No more tirak problems?

maybe all wised up liao. kekekeke.... :D

[RJ2004]

Now all diam diam? No more tirak problems?

this is good wad :D

[thaigers]

Now all diam diam? No more tirak problems?

I go and find one then tell you my problems ok?? :D

[Mr.romance]

This thread is getting colder & colder each day. I am shivering right now...
Maybe everyone is preparing for Songkhran. No time to talk about
Tirak problem..

:)

[tirak69]

This thread is getting colder & colder each day. I am shivering right now...
Maybe everyone is preparing for Songkhran. No time to talk about
Tirak problem..

:)

am sure u will see more problems after songkran... when the MP gers are back at work full force. all would have conned $$ from sponsor(s) to buy gifts home liao. ;)

after songkran need to earn $$ again so the KC traps will come and so will the problems faced by bros... *sigh* puad hua lor

[siamcutey]

This thread is getting colder & colder each day. I am shivering right now...
Maybe everyone is preparing for Songkhran. No time to talk about
Tirak problem..

:)

Wah you like to see a lot of this kind of KC Traps?

hahaha
SC

[tirak69]

This thread is getting colder & colder each day. I am shivering right now...
Maybe everyone is preparing for Songkhran. No time to talk about
Tirak problem..

:)
go to bkk or GL more often... visit the TGs... kenna KC trap, become their 'chai tao' and you can share more stories with us. then the thread will live on as we can then give advise... kekekeke :D

[Mr.romance]

Hi all bros (especially the Lao jiao wans),

Just talked to my TG, she told me Thonglor is damn happening today due to Songran...I was wondering how happening is it? Swing Singapore meh?

[tirak69]

Hi all bros (especially the Lao jiao wans),

Just talked to my TG, she told me Thonglor is damn happening today due to Songran...I was wondering how happening is it? Swing Singapore meh?

its like our MSR. very happening and full chio babes... :D

[Sornporn]

its like our MSR. very happening and full chio babes... :D

our sg scene sucks.la-kopi or just having friends much better nowsaday.

[tirak69]

Please lah Mohd Sultan is not even close to that.

dun so biased leh... ;)
give sg night scene a chance lah... afterall we born and bred here... hold red passport and pink i/c. i'm juz saying for comparison sake its similar to MSR.

mai keree phoot MSR dee gwah, chai mai?

[Mr.romance]

I doubt any pub at MSR can compare to any at Thonglor.
Its difficult to find ONS in SG unlike BK
:o

[Darkstorm]

I would think this has been said many times before (be it in in this forum or elsewhere, including verbally), but I would nevertheless like to pen it here:

My conclusion is that it is extremely difficult for a relationship with a tirak (Thai WL) to work out. My research indicates only a few successes out of thousands of failures...

:(

I envy and respect those who have been successful. For they have achieved something I could not in this life.

Darkstorm

[Darkstorm]

It seems to me that the title of this thread is a possible misnomer. Should perhaps be better called Stephen Leather's Public Dancer...

Or perhaps I am just feeling damn cynical now.

Darkstorm

[Darkstorm]

I'm sure the author meant it as an irony thus 'private'.

Yes...I believe u r right... :)

Why didn't I see it before? Hope I am not losing my sense of perspective hehe

Darkstorm

[collin_23]

As long as u feel u r right, go and pursue it. But like I said, spare a thought for your parents. They raise u up to be someone useful to society and hopefully to take care fo them when they old. Find WLs is bo bian as maybe u not yan dao, rich, etc. At least u no go and rape,than go jail.

In thai society, u marry a girl means u marry the family and the girls majority will prefer to live in thailand.

[collin_23]

Guys, maybe another look into the thai's way of thinking. Alot of interviews etc can be found on net. A few links:

http://www.freelancerbar.com/Girls/myview.html
http://www.freelancerbar.com/Girls/noi.html
http://www.freelancerbar.com/Girls/mike.html
http://www.freelancerbar.com/Girls/academic.html

This interview I like:

http://www.freelancerbar.com/Girls/bargirlinterview.html

Cheers, we r but walking ATMs. Never will we fit into their society instantly. Maybe your future generations who live in thailand will be accepted but seriously speaking, in the long run who will lose out? Go and think about it.

Everywhere there is competition, in thais compete with pii chays also. LOL.

[Sundaytimes]

I would think this has been said many times before (be it in in this forum or elsewhere, including verbally), but I would nevertheless like to pen it here:

My conclusion is that it is extremely difficult for a relationship with a tirak (Thai WL) to work out. My research indicates only a few successes out of thousands of failures...

:(

I envy and respect those who have been successful. For they have achieved something I could not in this life.

Darkstorm


Life is a big word and theres definately something thats bigger out there.
Who know you might be able to so call 'achive it' in the later part of your life. Or probably you realise that you don't really need to have it after all.

[GiddlyGook]

It seems to me that the title of this thread is a possible misnomer. Should perhaps be better called Stephen Leather's Public Dancer...

Or perhaps I am just feeling damn cynical now.

Darkstorm

I'd always assumed that the book was named after that Tina Turner song ("Private Dancer" what else?) about a hooker/dancer singing about how all men were the same to her, all she wanted was their money.

[Mr.romance]

My trip to Bk will be in 72 hrs time...Will reach BK on 22nd April..Any bros wana join me for cheonging session can jus Pm me..

BTW heard tat Tgs love Courting games...Maybe some "Lanjiao"
bros can enlighten a bit more on wat tactics to use besides giving roses,
& honey words..

:cool:

[Darkstorm]

My trip to Bk will be in 72 hrs time...Will reach BK on 22nd April..Any bros wana join me for cheonging session can jus Pm me..

BTW heard tat Tgs love Courting games...Maybe some "Lanjiao"
bros can enlighten a bit more on wat tactics to use besides giving roses,
& honey words..

:cool:

I also want to know lei :p

I am a jedi student looking for a great jedi master hehe

Anyone wants to be my sifu? I'll wash your toilet for u hehe
Darkstorm

[Mr.romance]

I also want to know lei :p

I am a jedi student looking for a great jedi master hehe

Anyone wants to be my sifu? I'll wash your toilet for u hehe
Darkstorm

All i knoe is that Bro Delifrance had alot up on his sleeves..Be ready
to wash toilet for him Bro Darkstorm...heehee

Too bad he is not in town..I will probably beep him in a short while later..

Cheers
:)

[Hasa Sas]

My trip to Bk will be in 72 hrs time...Will reach BK on 22nd April..Any bros wana join me for cheonging session can jus Pm me..

BTW heard tat Tgs love Courting games...Maybe some "Lanjiao"
bros can enlighten a bit more on wat tactics to use besides giving roses,
& honey words..

:cool:

You also want to follow suit....better not play with fire if you are not up to it.

Those Lanjiao are season cheongsters....there are more than giving roses and honey words...etc

[Darkstorm]

All i knoe is that Bro Delifrance had alot up on his sleeves..Be ready
to wash toilet for him Bro Darkstorm...heehee

Too bad he is not in town..I will probably beep him in a short while later..

Cheers
:)

No problem, he teaches me, I willing to wash toilet for him hehe.....but hopefully the toilet not as dirty as those in the SAF haha...

u learn already must share tips with me ok ? :)

[Darkstorm]

You also want to follow suit....better not play with fire if you are not up to it.

Those Lanjiao are season cheongsters....there are more than giving roses and honey words...etc

R u a seasoned cheongster?

[Hasa Sas]

R u a seasoned cheongster?

Of course I'm not otherwise i'd be glad to give some tips and advice

Still room for improvement..... :D

[Darkstorm]

Wah you like to see a lot of this kind of KC Traps?

hahaha
SC

Hi siamcutey,

regarding your current "black heart" avatar......what does it mean...
let me rephrase my question : what does it mean when someone says to u that u r "jai dum". (heart is dark?)

Many thanks...
khrop khun mahk krup

[siamcutey]

Hi siamcutey,

regarding your current "black heart" avatar......what does it mean...
let me rephrase my question : what does it mean when someone says to u that u r "jai dum". (heart is dark?)

Many thanks...
khrop khun mahk krup

It means you are very heartless.

SC

[Darkstorm]

It means you are very heartless.

SC

I see. Thanks...

[Darkstorm]

Yes you are. Not only jai dum. Also jai rai. Haha!

Sorry...but what is jai rai?

[thaigers]

SC jai rai and jai dum............. :eek:
he is the ultimate liao :D

[2HDYR]

I was just wondering with all these debates, if u guys have actually encounter them yourselves and fit to give comments and advise???
i guess u only get yourselves conned all the time and that's why so much negative replies. What you think is right may not be right to others and vice versa. There is no denial on what is Real that is negative but also no denial if it is Real but positive.
Given u have 100years to live, i dont think u can even fuck or experience 1% of the population there to make such negative comments, be it anywhere in the world.

Sigh... All these negative thoughts make my stay in this beautiful land somewhat sad because my favourite people are being badly slandered... True there are the bad ones, but do some people come to LOS to seek out the bad ones and close their eyes to the genuine Thai people with their amity, friendship and sincerity? Why are they negative? Simply because through their many glorious trips, they simply visit arp naam joints and think they've found the one, forgetting that although unofficial statistics say there could be up to a few million women in the sex trade, there are over 60 million living in LOS... Surely they're not all bastards? If so, why they still go back over and over again? Suckers for punishment?

[2HDYR]

Don't you find in tiring logging in and out between Pii Chai and 2HDYR? Want to prove your point. Use your original nick. Come in here and jerk off every few weeks when you're getting stagnant with your usual forum?

Huh? Me Pii Chai? Sure or not...

Me not even invisible on this forum... Just here to balance out the argument abit as I feel it's somewhat skewed...

[collin_23]

Hmm.....SE? LOL

[2HDYR]

Lai lai. Anymore new tricks clown?

Yeah... YOU!!! :D

[thaigers]

If anyone wants to start a fight, can always start a new thread and slug it out there like 'who is the ultimate bastard'.

How about we start a "Fight Club" thread??

[Darkstorm]

Hope this is the right thread for this query of mine...

Does anyone have any idea how the Thai WLs in Geylang subscribe to their handphones? Do they use a monthly subscription like singtel/m1 etc? If so, is it registered under their names? Or must they get a local guy (a sponsor perhaps) to register for them in the local guy's name?

If the Thai WL uses Hi-card, does she require a local guy to register the line for her? Or can it be under her own name? Any idea how the Hi-card system works?


Sorry for my ignorance in such matters :confused:

[keet]

Hope this is the right thread for this query of mine...
Does anyone have any idea how the Thai WLs in Geylang subscribe to their handphones? Do they use a monthly subscription like singtel/m1 etc? If so, is it registered under their names? Or must they get a local guy (a sponsor perhaps) to register for them in the local guy's name?
If the Thai WL uses Hi-card, does she require a local guy to register the line for her? Or can it be under her own name? Any idea how the Hi-card system works?
Sorry for my ignorance in such matters :confused:

Think most of them uses the Hi-Card. But of cause if got sponsor lagi good lor ;) The last time i bought a Hi-Card(from any phone shop), it stated value of card will expire in 6mths and didn't get to use it very much either.
===========>
from Singtel.
hi!Cards are available at all Teleshops & SingTel Mobile authorised dealers.
To register, please bring along any one of the following as form of identification:- NRIC, Malaysian NRIC, Passport, Business Registration certificate., Work Permit, Employment Pass, Government or Representative Office appointment letter.
TopUp Cards are available at all Teleshops, SingPost outlets, Mobil petrol stations and 7-11 outlets (subject to stock availability).
There are no age limit or residency conditions for the purchasing of the hi!Card

[Darkstorm]

You don't need to register for those Top-up SIM cards. No matter what don't ever apply a line under your name for your 'tirak'. Many bros here can tell you why. Unless she gives you $1000 advance cash for debiting the phone bills. LOL. DNAT likes the term 'advance cash' very much. Me too. Hehehe.

Think most of them uses the Hi-Card. But of cause if got sponsor lagi good lor The last time i bought a Hi-Card(from any phone shop), it stated value of card will expire in 6mths and didn't get to use it very much either.
===========>
from Singtel.
hi!Cards are available at all Teleshops & SingTel Mobile authorised dealers.
To register, please bring along any one of the following as form of identification:- NRIC, Malaysian NRIC, Passport, Business Registration certificate., Work Permit, Employment Pass, Government or Representative Office appointment letter.
TopUp Cards are available at all Teleshops, SingPost outlets, Mobil petrol stations and 7-11 outlets (subject to stock availability).
There are no age limit or residency conditions for the purchasing of the hi!Card

Thanks for your replies guys...

one more question...if the Thai WL is able to receive MMS, does it mean that she has a fixed line subsciption (ie: line registered under a local guy's name)?
From what I understand, only with a fixed line subscription can a person enable GPRS/MMS capability.

Is it possible to receive MMS with a Hi-card type of line?

Many thanks.

[DNAT]

You don't need to register for those Top-up SIM cards. No matter what don't ever apply a line under your name for your 'tirak'. Many bros here can tell you why. Unless she gives you $1000 advance cash for debiting the phone bills. LOL. DNAT likes the term 'advance cash' very much. Me too. Hehehe.
wow lau .... take the S$1000, terminate the line instantly and go BKK liao .... cheong arh! (say only) - ;)

[2HDYR]

Thanks for your replies guys...

one more question...if the Thai WL is able to receive MMS, does it mean that she has a fixed line subsciption (ie: line registered under a local guy's name)?
From what I understand, only with a fixed line subscription can a person enable GPRS/MMS capability.

Is it possible to receive MMS with a Hi-card type of line?

Many thanks.

Hi... Here's the answers for you... Checked with my telco friends...

It is possible for the WLs to get phone lines under their names... All they need to do is take their work permit, have a fixed local address and a cash deposit ready. However, as correctly mentioned previously, the advent of prepaid cards have swayed the direction towards the prepaid system because it provides the anonimity as well as freedom from bills.

As for your second question, yes it is possible for a prepaid card user to access (i.e. send and receive) MMS. All that is needed is an MMS enabled phone and the user actually activates the service...

So, if they have a post-paid phone account, it doesn't mean that there's a sponsor involved... Thai WLs with active handphone accounts have been aplenty even before the advent of prepaid accounts...

[2HDYR]

You don't need to register for those Top-up SIM cards. No matter what don't ever apply a line under your name for your 'tirak'. Many bros here can tell you why. Unless she gives you $1000 advance cash for debiting the phone bills. LOL. DNAT likes the term 'advance cash' very much. Me too. Hehehe.

Again... Showing off your know-it-all big brother attitude... He merely asked a question about whether a) Thai WLs can apply for a line, b)whether they need somebody to apply for Hi Card (which you answered) and later in a separate post, c) whether prepaid card users are able to send and receive MMS...

Unless I'm blind, I don't remember him asking whether he should sponsor a Thai WL by applying a phone line for her...

I rest my case! :D

[Darkstorm]

Hi... Here's the answers for you... Checked with my telco friends...

It is possible for the WLs to get phone lines under their names... All they need to do is take their work permit, have a fixed local address and a cash deposit ready. However, as correctly mentioned previously, the advent of prepaid cards have swayed the direction towards the prepaid system because it provides the anonimity as well as freedom from bills.

As for your second question, yes it is possible for a prepaid card user to access (i.e. send and receive) MMS. All that is needed is an MMS enabled phone and the user actually activates the service...

So, if they have a post-paid phone account, it doesn't mean that there's a sponsor involved... Thai WLs with active handphone accounts have been aplenty even before the advent of prepaid accounts...

Thanks for your answers...Khrop Koon mahk krup...

As for your second question, yes it is possible for a prepaid card user to access (i.e. send and receive) MMS. All that is needed is an MMS enabled phone and the user actually activates the service...

Do u know how this is done ie: how can a prepaid (eg: Hi-card) user activate the MMS/GPRS service? Simply by asking the service provider to activate it for the user?

[2HDYR]

Thanks for your answers...Khrop Koon mahk krup...



Do u know how this is done ie: how can a prepaid (eg: Hi-card) user activate the MMS/GPRS service? Simply by asking the service provider to activate it for the user?

Mai pen rai...

The steps are the same as for postpaid users... For Singtel simply dial a *SEND number (I think its *43327, but don't quote me)... No real skills needed there...

[2HDYR]

Hey motherfucker. Get off my dick. Where's your good friend Pii Chai?

Merely stating a fact... I answer questions by people the way they ask it... Not add little morsels of information (which is of no use to anybody whatsoever, but simply to stroke that immense ego of yours)...

[2HDYR]

State your cheebye fact lah. After coffee break now come back with Pii Chai and start round 2 again? Haha motherfucking idiots.

Cheebye fact? Hmm... I thought I was answering questions on foreigners and their use of mobile phones???

Coffee break??? No lah... Busy working mah... Anyway come here to check out only... Your attitude simply screamed for others to criticise...

[collin_23]

Aiyo, go get guns lah. In LOS now right? The forum for chating.

Cheers

[collin_23]

Got guts anot meet already know liao. Quarrel here does not serve any purpose. Thailand anywhere also can get guns.

this CB loser cunt even hold his own cock properly want to hold what gun somemore?!

[collin_23]

Would appreciate contributions from all friends whatever nationality. Got things to contribute can.

[collin_23]

LOL.

My mobile: +6670168989

See who's the real loser and trouble maker. Haha.

[meatlover]

2HDYR and Pii Chai ... Are you in the same league as our "in-house royalty" and the "didi that is gigantic" :rolleyes: ... Can't help but wonder how come the 2 of you got so good "yuan fen" :rolleyes: as in joining this forum on the same day ...

[siamcutey]

This is on Private Dancer, Not on Private Duel.

In life, I always realised one thing. People who say they will beat your brains out, buy your life, give you eat bullets, all this is crap shit talk. Because the real ones who dare to do all the above will never say it out.

Remember the smiling tiger. When he bites, you are dead. He doesn't even need to inform anyone.

Good nite
SC

[Sornporn]

This is on Private Dancer, Not on Private Duel.

In life, I always realised one thing. People who say they will beat your brains out, buy your life, give you eat bullets, all this is crap shit talk. Because the real ones who dare to do all the above will never say it out.

Remember the smiling tiger. When he bites, you are dead. He doesn't even need to inform anyone.

Good nite
SC

very true. they never talk much, next thing you know they take a beer bottle come swinging towards the head and its :eek:

:D

[Darkstorm]

Mai pen rai...

The steps are the same as for postpaid users... For Singtel simply dial a *SEND number (I think its *43327, but don't quote me)... No real skills needed there...

I see.......thanks :)

[collin_23]

*clap clap*

This is on Private Dancer, Not on Private Duel.

In life, I always realised one thing. People who say they will beat your brains out, buy your life, give you eat bullets, all this is crap shit talk. Because the real ones who dare to do all the above will never say it out.

Remember the smiling tiger. When he bites, you are dead. He doesn't even need to inform anyone.

Good nite
SC

[2HDYR]

I see.......thanks :)

You are most welcome! :)

[Mr.romance]

Hi all bros,

Just touch down BK from SG yesterday.
MY GT is torturing me again...Received an sms from my TG just when I about to check in..It reads "Hope to see you soon,My mother likes you, she can see from your eyes that you are serious about me,Love you more this time than last time. Take Care....
Was really touched initially but when I think back...I just treat this SMS as
a pinch Of salt...Becos I still don trust her...Her Workin Life pissed me off.
Maybe like wat Bro Delifrance say..Only time will tell...

NO wonder Bro SC always had to stress on trustin them 50% only

BTW I really had to thank Bro Delifrance from his advice when I was in BK...

Cheers

[collin_23]

Thai got good girls also. Cannot kill all with 1 sweep. *hai e...ya* 50% or less r for the old hands....maybe try a lie detector lor.

Cheers

Hi all bros,

Just touch down BK from SG yesterday.
MY GT is torturing me again...Received an sms from my TG just when I about to check in..It reads "Hope to see you soon,My mother likes you, she can see from your eyes that you are serious about me,Love you more this time than last time. Take Care....
Was really touched initially but when I think back...I just treat this SMS as
a pinch Of salt...Becos I still don trust her...Her Workin Life pissed me off.
Maybe like wat Bro Delifrance say..Only time will tell...

NO wonder Bro SC always had to stress on trustin them 50% only

BTW I really had to thank Bro Delifrance from his advice when I was in BK...

Cheers

[RJ2004]

Hi all bros,

Just touch down BK from SG yesterday.
MY GT is torturing me again...Received an sms from my TG just when I about to check in..It reads "Hope to see you soon,My mother likes you, she can see from your eyes that you are serious about me,Love you more this time than last time. Take Care....
Was really touched initially but when I think back...I just treat this SMS as
a pinch Of salt...Becos I still don trust her...Her Workin Life pissed me off.
Maybe like wat Bro Delifrance say..Only time will tell...

NO wonder Bro SC always had to stress on trustin them 50% only

BTW I really had to thank Bro Delifrance from his advice when I was in BK...

Cheers

i'm almost tearing at the message. but then again, if you're the one, she'll put down whatever she has and do anything for you. and dats the only truth

[thaigers]

Basically the above translates to the following:

"Hope to see you soon,
Please come back soon so that you can spend more money on me.

My mother likes you, she can see from your eyes that you are serious about me,
Yes hope this "son-in-law" can 'take care" of our entire clan.

Love you more this time than last time.
I got you now. Let's see if I can go to the next step.

Take Care..."
Stay healthy, don't fall sick and work harder. So you can TT me money, make more money to come to BKK to spend on me and help to meet my drinks quota every month. So I won't get fired.

dun discourage him lah, wait he dont post FR liao :D

[Darkstorm]

Hi all bros,

Just touch down BK from SG yesterday.
MY GT is torturing me again...Received an sms from my TG just when I about to check in..It reads "Hope to see you soon,My mother likes you, she can see from your eyes that you are serious about me,Love you more this time than last time. Take Care....
Was really touched initially but when I think back...I just treat this SMS as
a pinch Of salt...Becos I still don trust her...Her Workin Life pissed me off.
Maybe like wat Bro Delifrance say..Only time will tell...

NO wonder Bro SC always had to stress on trustin them 50% only

BTW I really had to thank Bro Delifrance from his advice when I was in BK...

Cheers

Hi Mr Romance......one question I would like u to give me an honest answer.......are u really serious about her?

[collin_23]

bad r u :D ....do hope all these do not come true but after seeing the many instances I think it may just happen again. haiz... :(

Basically the above translates to the following:

"Hope to see you soon,
Please come back soon so that you can spend more money on me.

My mother likes you, she can see from your eyes that you are serious about me,
Yes hope this "son-in-law" can 'take care" of our entire clan.

Love you more this time than last time.
I got you now. Let's see if I can go to the next step.

Take Care..."
Stay healthy, don't fall sick and work harder. So you can TT me money, make more money to come to BKK to spend on me and help to meet my drinks quota every month. So I won't get fired.

[collin_23]

I william hung material. *lance around* :D

yes those answers are from the person who have experienced it themselves.
if not how to know? whether it is real or false.
depends on each individual as well. some thinks they are Ricky Martin material and expect FOC from the girl that they just met, if u are then good lor.

[tirak69]

Thai got good girls also. Cannot kill all with 1 sweep. *hai e...ya* 50% or less r for the old hands....maybe try a lie detector lor.

Cheers

there are always 2 sides to a coin. there are the good ones and bad ones too. this forum is for us to share experiences - be it good or bad ones.

we can pass our views but should not make judgement on whether what is right or wrong. we are all adults and can make our own choices in life. i'm sure all seasoned bkk chiongsters have experienced the "sour, sweet, bitter and spicy" of relationships with TGs. a long distance relationship is never easy... whether it works or not time will tell.

[tirak69]

a topic that i tought rather interesting...

we have been talking about how TGs try to con us or vice versa so far. what abt those that really fall in love with you and try to use GT to keep you leaving them? any bros come across such incidents? care to share? i have heard cases where the guy flies up almost every weekend to see the girl and gets personal when anyone talks bad about his tirak. :eek: this is beyond the "kam cheng' trap already liao...

[2HDYR]

a topic that i tought rather interesting...

we have been talking about how TGs try to con us or vice versa so far. what abt those that really fall in love with you and try to use GT to keep you leaving them? any bros come across such incidents? care to share? i have heard cases where the guy flies up almost every weekend to see the girl and gets personal when anyone talks bad about his tirak. :eek: this is beyond the "kam cheng' trap already liao...

Interesting question.

GT (aka gong tao, black magic) is something the Northerners seem to like to employ for a variety of reasons.

However, the success or otherwise of gt is based on several issues, firstly the supposed power of the practitioner and secondly how strong the victim (not physical strength, but more mental resistance).

GT can be employed to help to get a man/woman to love you, help you to secure business dealings, etc.

My only comment on it is unfortunately, the poor victim almost always never know s/he kena GTed and thus live life pretty much obsessed with whatever the GT was meant to be (e.g. your example).

Only way to get it out... Unfortunately the best way is to get the person to willingly seek help (rare as hell)... Otherwise, the process will take a long time...

Hope there was some food for thoughts there... :)

[collin_23]

yep. Which is y I say cannot kill all.....cheongster also got good and bad mah everything the same. I am a bad guy. See no evil.... :p

there are always 2 sides to a coin. there are the good ones and bad ones too. this forum is for us to share experiences - be it good or bad ones.

we can pass our views but should not make judgement on whether what is right or wrong. we are all adults and can make our own choices in life. i'm sure all seasoned bkk chiongsters have experienced the "sour, sweet, bitter and spicy" of relationships with TGs. a long distance relationship is never easy... whether it works or not time will tell.

[Darkstorm]

This flame war has gone on long enough...and it has escalated to the point where I feel I should comment. I hope u guys would make peace soon...U guys might be enemies in cyberspace.....but who knows? When u meet up u might become friends or good friends.

[Mr.romance]

there are always 2 sides to a coin. there are the good ones and bad ones too. this forum is for us to share experiences - be it good or bad ones.

we can pass our views but should not make judgement on whether what is right or wrong. we are all adults and can make our own choices in life. i'm sure all seasoned bkk chiongsters have experienced the "sour, sweet, bitter and spicy" of relationships with TGs. a long distance relationship is never easy... whether it works or not time will tell.

Hi Bro,

I totally agree with u tat a lond distance relationship is never easy.
I am seriously thinkin wat my TG is doing now...Who knows she is sleepin with a Pii Chai now...& from wat i know most TGs dislike we guys to control them...
Even bro delifrance & keet agrees...

BTW i just met up with Bro keet Yesterday...Had a great time with him by hearing some of his experience...BTW Bro Keet thansk for the time...I did mentioned tat once Bro delifrance come back we will meet up for Kopi session again..Care to join up as I will like to meet up with u too...BTW called ur Thai mobile during my last day At BK on 25th April but it was off...Guess u are not there at tat time...
keep in touch

Cheers

[Darkstorm]

Hi Bro,

I totally agree with u tat a lond distance relationship is never easy.
I am seriously thinkin wat my TG is doing now...Who knows she is sleepin with a Pii Chai now...& from wat i know most TGs dislike we guys to control them...
Even bro delifrance & keet agrees...



Cheers

Wah Mr Romance....u ignored my question.....

Anyway, I thought that most girls (and not just TGs) don't like guys to control them?

[Darkstorm]

Couldn't send u private message. My guess is that your account was disabled or something. Could u private message me? Have something to ask u...

[Mr.romance]

Wah Mr Romance....u ignored my question.....

Anyway, I thought that most girls (and not just TGs) don't like guys to control them?

As for your question...Of coz I had some feelings for My TG..If not I wont fly miles to visit her...But of coz at the same time get some good bonking session.But the biggest question is How much is she serious with me?????

As for TGs, They are independent since they are young, They been through more shit than us, Like wat my TG say she suffered alot of breakups til
she did not really wan to commit easily...She also want to lead a carefree life...

BTW I nearly got caught by my Tg for having an affair....Got a FLS number from SOi Cowboy...I think the FL is from Shebas...I just call this FL handphone for a missed call to ensure her number is not phony.
Don expect her to callme at 2 plus the next day while I having Supper with my TG...Luckily I told my TG its an ex tour guide who like me but I don like her at all...It is a blessing in disguise as I can see my TG really ganjeong to find who she is...BRo keet knows the full story..hahaha

[Mr.romance]

I sincerely hope your relationship works out. Please let us know how it goes 3 months down the road. And no this is not some sarcasm. Good luck. :D

Thanks...Very much appreciated...Will keep u guys updated on My Tg issue.
Like wat bro Delifrance told me..Let time do the talking....

[Darkstorm]

As for your question...Of coz I had some feelings for My TG..If not I wont fly miles to visit her...But of coz at the same time get some good bonking session.But the biggest question is How much is she serious with me?????

As for TGs, They are independent since they are young, They been through more shit than us, Like wat my TG say she suffered alot of breakups til
she did not really wan to commit easily...She also want to lead a carefree life...

BTW I nearly got caught by my Tg for having an affair....Got a FLS number from SOi Cowboy...I think the FL is from Shebas...I just call this FL handphone for a missed call to ensure her number is not phony.
Don expect her to callme at 2 plus the next day while I having Supper with my TG...Luckily I told my TG its an ex tour guide who like me but I don like her at all...It is a blessing in disguise as I can see my TG really ganjeong to find who she is...BRo keet knows the full story..hahaha

I see...Hope to join u guys for lim kopi sessions one of these days.....right now for the next couple of weeks will be damn busy with my work though...

[collin_23]

No comments. Advices given already by many bros here and real life. My best wishes for u. :)

Cheers

As for your question...Of coz I had some feelings for My TG..If not I wont fly miles to visit her...But of coz at the same time get some good bonking session.But the biggest question is How much is she serious with me?????

As for TGs, They are independent since they are young, They been through more shit than us, Like wat my TG say she suffered alot of breakups til
she did not really wan to commit easily...She also want to lead a carefree life...

BTW I nearly got caught by my Tg for having an affair....Got a FLS number from SOi Cowboy...I think the FL is from Shebas...I just call this FL handphone for a missed call to ensure her number is not phony.
Don expect her to callme at 2 plus the next day while I having Supper with my TG...Luckily I told my TG its an ex tour guide who like me but I don like her at all...It is a blessing in disguise as I can see my TG really ganjeong to find who she is...BRo keet knows the full story..hahaha

[tirak69]

Hi Bro,

I totally agree with u tat a lond distance relationship is never easy.
I am seriously thinkin wat my TG is doing now...Who knows she is sleepin with a Pii Chai now...& from wat i know most TGs dislike we guys to control them...
Even bro delifrance & keet agrees...

BTW i just met up with Bro keet Yesterday...Had a great time with him by hearing some of his experience...BTW Bro Keet thansk for the time...I did mentioned tat once Bro delifrance come back we will meet up for Kopi session again..Care to join up as I will like to meet up with u too...BTW called ur Thai mobile during my last day At BK on 25th April but it was off...Guess u are not there at tat time...
keep in touch

Cheers
no probs at all... can ask keet to call me. we can all meet for a drink at golden.

i find the best way to deal with a long distance relationship is to take it easy. a lot of trust is needed. as much as you dun know what they are doing they are also feeling the same likewise (assuming its a real relationship). if they really like you then they will be more "kan chiong" than you. they will call you, send sms and also tell you what they are doing all the time when you chat.

a trick i have used is to sms them when their mobile is off or engaged. the message will bee to ask her to sms when she is free and i will return call. i will either get a sms soon or they call... i dun bother with repeated calls. it juz shows that you are "kan chiong". :D

[tirak69]

Thanks...Very much appreciated...Will keep u guys updated on My Tg issue.
Like wat bro Delifrance told me..Let time do the talking....
agreed. time is always the best guide. if its an act they cant put it up for long. juz make sure you dun put all your eggs in a basket initially.

give them their due freedom. its not fair for us to enjoy ourselves and expect them to keep reporting their actions to you. if they really like you they will respect you for it and tell you what is going on with their life even though you did not probe... of course not to say you "bo chap"... just be concerned but not to the point of irritating. this is my point of view culled from personal experiences. ;)

[Mr.romance]

no probs at all... can ask keet to call me. we can all meet for a drink at golden.

i find the best way to deal with a long distance relationship is to take it easy. a lot of trust is needed. as much as you dun know what they are doing they are also feeling the same likewise (assuming its a real relationship). if they really like you then they will be more "kan chiong" than you. they will call you, send sms and also tell you what they are doing all the time when you chat.

a trick i have used is to sms them when their mobile is off or engaged. the message will bee to ask her to sms when she is free and i will return call. i will either get a sms soon or they call... i dun bother with repeated calls. it juz shows that you are "kan chiong". :D

haha..True enough..I will prefer her to be more gan chiong than me..Tats the trick..iTs the same when I am in BK...She saw me avoiding a call & she start probing who is the gal tat jus called...tat was the 1st time i see her so gan chiong..Think Of it I feel like laughing...

I even make her get emotion & cry in the Taxi...Bro keet will know the whole
story...Will specify the whole story to you when we catch up for a kopi session...
Might wana ask Bro Delifrance tag along...Awaiting him to be back also...

Cheers

[siamcutey]

haha..True enough..I will prefer her to be more gan chiong than me..Tats the trick..iTs the same when I am in BK...She saw me avoiding a call & she start probing who is the gal tat jus called...tat was the 1st time i see her so gan chiong..Think Of it I feel like laughing...

I even make her get emotion & cry in the Taxi...Bro keet will know the whole
story...Will specify the whole story to you when we catch up for a kopi session...
Might wana ask Bro Delifrance tag along...Awaiting him to be back also...

Cheers

She kanjiong maybe she scared you "sponsor" other girls and did not leave enough for her "usage" in future.

SC

[The Crow]

Hahaha cry? Tears can be faked. Don't fall for it. If you chose to believe otherwise. Then so be it. Wait later some 'LOS old birds' say I'm arrogant again. By the way where are those faggots? :D

Hi there just want to say something though i am not really a contributor.
I am not or want to side anyone but after the past week of flame wars think you are asking for it to start again. cool man.

[Mr.romance]

Just met up with Bro J.lo Last night. Had a really great time together.
Maybe meeting him later again...

BTW my next trip to LOS will be in July...Any bros wana tag along can PM me..
Seriously Lookin for Kaki to cheong together...

Talking about cheong...Nearly screw a TG from Soi Cowboy.
A fair & cute babe...JUst told her "Kun Sway Mak" & can see from her reaction she quite happy...Her mamasan ask me to pao her but too bad tat same night I had to meet my TG...Sway sway the next day When had supper
with my TG..She called me..But 4d also not so chun..Will probably look for her during my next trip...

[edkoh2000]

As for your question...Of coz I had some feelings for My TG..If not I wont fly miles to visit her...But of coz at the same time get some good bonking session.But the biggest question is How much is she serious with me?????

As for TGs, They are independent since they are young, They been through more shit than us, Like wat my TG say she suffered alot of breakups til
she did not really wan to commit easily...She also want to lead a carefree life...

BTW I nearly got caught by my Tg for having an affair....Got a FLS number from SOi Cowboy...I think the FL is from Shebas...I just call this FL handphone for a missed call to ensure her number is not phony.
Don expect her to callme at 2 plus the next day while I having Supper with my TG...Luckily I told my TG its an ex tour guide who like me but I don like her at all...It is a blessing in disguise as I can see my TG really ganjeong to find who she is...BRo keet knows the full story..hahaha

Anyone WANTS to fall IN LOVE with a WORKING GIRL, please really be prepared for lots of heartache. When they had decided to come into that industry, they already decided to throw away ALL moral conscience. Even those who don't will learn to do it because how else can they continue in the trade.

Lying to man is their job. Getting money from them is their survivial. How can they continue if they keep feeling guilty about cheating. Especially if they have done this for a long time. To ask them to stop all cheating and lying right away is almost impossible. It is like a drug addict or a gambler.

So if you want to LOVE them, one really must make sure it is true love that will stand the test of time and pain. You will need to help them. It is really different from a normal relationship.

For those who want to step in expecting them to change overnight and turn into a fairytale good girl, you will surely be disappointed. And if they didn't change as you expected and you are going to leave and condemn them at the first sign of trouble than I guess it is really better not to start at all.

[Mr.romance]

For those who want to step in expecting them to change overnight and turn into a fairytale good girl, you will surely be disappointed. And if they didn't change as you expected and you are going to leave and condemn them at the first sign of trouble than I guess it is really better not to start at all.

true enough, If given a choice, I will not ever wan to start a relationship
like this again.As My heart is hurt several times already...Enough is enough..Time to pack up soon

[Darkstorm]

Anyone WANTS to fall IN LOVE with a WORKING GIRL, please really be prepared for lots of heartache. When they had decided to come into that industry, they already decided to throw away ALL moral conscience. Even those who don't will learn to do it because how else can they continue in the trade.

Lying to man is their job. Getting money from them is their survivial. How can they continue if they keep feeling guilty about cheating. Especially if they have done this for a long time. To ask them to stop all cheating and lying right away is almost impossible. It is like a drug addict or a gambler.

So if you want to LOVE them, one really must make sure it is true love that will stand the test of time and pain. You will need to help them. It is really different from a normal relationship.

For those who want to step in expecting them to change overnight and turn into a fairytale good girl, you will surely be disappointed. And if they didn't change as you expected and you are going to leave and condemn them at the first sign of trouble than I guess it is really better not to start at all.

Hi edkoh2000.....it has been a long time since your last post...

the last I remembered, u were involved in a fierce debate with siamcutey.
You were trying to balance out the negative views of siamcutey.

Your tone and posting seems different now.....Have your views changed since then?

[siamcutey]

Hi edkoh2000.....it has been a long time since your last post...

the last I remembered, u were involved in a fierce debate with siamcutey.
You were trying to balance out the negative views of siamcutey.

Your tone and posting seems different now.....Have your views changed since then?

Actually who is right who is wrong doesn't matter to me. What matters is what one learns out from such things. Even if edkoh persists in what he thinks, I never "dulan" him also. Because at the end of the day, the truth will prevail. Only those who walk the path will know and understand what is being said in this thread.

Hopefully those who walk the path can give advice to the rests so that to remind them of the pitfalls, though not every working girl is one pitfall itself. Just a reminder to be more careful when threading on such path.

Good nite to everyone.
SC

[edkoh2000]

Hi edkoh2000.....it has been a long time since your last post...

the last I remembered, u were involved in a fierce debate with siamcutey.
You were trying to balance out the negative views of siamcutey.

Your tone and posting seems different now.....Have your views changed since then?

Actually my views have not changed. I know that lots of working girls do lie and cheat. In my earlier posts in the past, I am just saying some of them do changed either on their own or because of love for you.

In this sanuk arena, we the customers including myself are just as responsible as the girls in encouraging this lying and cheating. They provide the service because there is a demand. The very exact thing we look for in cheonging in thailand (as compare to commerical sex elsewhere) is fake love (GF treatment) but it is also the very exact thing we want to avoid when we get serious.

So when we do get serious, we blame them for being not.

In my above post, I just want to state that if one wants to LOVE a working girl, just make sure it is true giving selfless kind of love because anything less will surely make it harder. Would it be easy to love a hardcore gambler? Yet does it mean all relationships with a gambler fail? Does it mean all gamblers never changed?

I find stereotyping and classification degrading. I have already stated my views on those previously so I do not wish to get involved in it again.

In addition, though I find SC views very negative, there are many pointers I agree with him even during the past fierce debate. Also, one only debates with those worth debating with.

[collin_23]

aiyo...got time must give more offerings to 'yue lao' ,cupid and aphrodite. *hiaks* Not to forget god of wealth, bo lui bo cha bor. :D

[collin_23]

The reason love turns into hatred is when the love is so deep that one simply indulges himself wholeheatedly into it. The love must have been of extreme depth for a person to turn around and hate his partner whom he values even greater than his own life.

Once again, this is commercial sex. If people pay u of course u will give good services. Similarly when u pay u expect good services.

All these have been reflected in private dancer.

U r not hurting anyone in the end but yourself. Choose to believe. :cool:

[collin_23]

Uncle romance, life is still a long way. Nobody is infallible. Even the mighty god makes mistakes at times. Sometimes I do wonder if there is a god and if he is there y am I hurt? Guess I will only find out when i die. U r hurt because u r not a cold-blooded person. Take care. :)

true enough, If given a choice, I will not ever wan to start a relationship
like this again.As My heart is hurt several times already...Enough is enough..Time to pack up soon

[Mr.romance]

Wah just few days ago you're still into it. Now giving up?

Its jus a matter of time this unfruitful relationship will end.
At the end of the day its just a game.Like wat Bro J.lo just told me today
while havin kopi with him...We shall be the one controlling the game..Not them....& since we are like a living ATM Machine to them...Its usually we the one who will decide when the game will be over...I may make one or two more
moves & stop...Who knoes I meet up with a better TG in my next trip..heehee

BTW I realised some of the threads are missing...Can someone tell me the reason why...Did Sammyboy swallow it?

:D

[Darkstorm]

Uncle romance, life is still a long way. Nobody is infallible. Even the mighty god makes mistakes at times. Sometimes I do wonder if there is a god and if he is there y am I hurt? Guess I will only find out when i die. U r hurt because u r not a cold-blooded person. Take care. :)

Collin_23.....y r u thinking of retiring this nick?

U quiting this forum? Why?

I know this is may be irrelevant to this thread, but I would like to comment:

maybe there is no god. or if there is, shouldn't u fear him? Are u sure u want an all-powerful god watching over your shoulder all the time? Are u sure u like an all-powerful dictator to control your life???????

Why u r hurt? If there is a god, consider the possibility that it is not a benevolent entity. Perhaps god is sadistic and takes pleasure in inflicting pain upon his playthings. (Yes, I can hear religious devotees cringe at this point)

When u die, u may never find out. U won't find out if death is really the end and there is no consciousness beyond death.

Do ponder upon what I have said. I shan't say more because it is not really relevant to this thread.

[Darkstorm]

Hi everyone.

First of all, I wish to apologize for this post as it is irrelevant to the thread. But I feel that this thread is widely read and can generate the publicity for me.

I have been thinking very hard for some time, and I have made some critical decisions as to the direction I am going to take in life, and the risks I am going to face. So please bear with me and hear me out. Below is a reproduction of the post I posted in Sawadee forum.

(Quoted from Sawadee forum):
"Hi everyone. This is just a brief summary of my proposal. It is still rather tentative at this stage (because unforseen circumstances do happen in life).

However, this is my plan: exactly one year from now, I intend to go to Thailand to do business with or without the ideal capital (of course, with more money, I can start a bigger business; with less money, I will have to do something on a smaller scale), with or without any business partner.

Nevertheless, right now I am exploring the possibility and opportunity of working with a potential business partner (who says he is able to get more investors into the picture) to start a business in Thailand. He wants to go in big.

My proposal to him is to start a disco/pub business in Thailand. Currently, I am considering the following locations: Bangkok or Phuket.

Although I am reluctant to pull in more partners (because it would mean a dilution of my share of the business and hence my profits), I do agree with the advice of my business partner to try and bring in more partners with captial so as to share the business risks. As I am sure u all would know, in business, there are risks and no guarantees, and this is especially so for a foreign business. (I am currently residing in Singapore)

Personally, I would rather work with my friends on this, but few of my friends (maybe none of them in fact) have the capital to join me in this joint venture. Neither do they have the interest (some are tied down in Singapore as they are married and I would think their wives don't wish to relocate) to do business in Thailand (or in any other place for that matter).

In short, I am looking for potential business partners who have the following:

1) Capital
2) Expertise (business knowledge of running a disco/pub in Thailand for eg) (Specifically I am also looking for a business partner who can suggest a precise location for our pub/disco and who knows the territory/location well)
In addition/alternatively, I need a business partner who has some other expertise to offer. I will be the judge of whether u have something valuable to offer me.
3) (this would be a bonus): connections in the proposed locality of business (for eg, maybe u have connections in a certain province in Thailand or something)

Of course, I don't get to make all the decisions, so even if I think u can partner with my consortium of interested parties, it would also depend on the others whether to admit u into this or not.

I won't be providing more details at the moment. If u wish to know more, please post your contact here or email me.

Thanks for reading this." (End of quote)

Dear SammyBoy, please don't delete this post. Regardless of your decision to delete this post or not, thanks.

I am truly sorry if I have offended anyone here with this post of mine. Flame me if you wish, I will not take offense. My primary concern now is to succeed in my future business and to carry out my plan successfully.

(Note: actually.....my post is relevant to this thread.....those who know me personally may know the relevance, but I am not going to state it here for all to see)

[tirak69]

Its jus a matter of time this unfruitful relationship will end.
At the end of the day its just a game.Like wat Bro J.lo just told me today
while havin kopi with him...We shall be the one controlling the game..Not them....& since we are like a living ATM Machine to them...Its usually we the one who will decide when the game will be over...I may make one or two more
moves & stop...Who knoes I meet up with a better TG in my next trip..heehee

BTW I realised some of the threads are missing...Can someone tell me the reason why...Did Sammyboy swallow it?

:D

when u feel sianzz then its time to move on... there are babes aplenty on city of angels. kekeke
else you can always consider KIV-ing her. dun have to call her all the time when u are in bkk... only when you feel like it. then u can still hunt around.

[collin_23]

Started cheonging last yr around this time. I may talk like a heartless bastard here but deep down I cannot forget the 1st girl. A phone call away but nothing will come out of anything so I choose to lead separate lives, prefering not to contact. It gets worst at every night when here I am after a long and tiring day trying to sleep and my eyes accidentally 'bio' the hp besides me. Wish to have a new start maybe but at times will still poke my head here to kaypo abit.

As SC has said in another thread, the only way one gets free of 'worries' is the day when he quits commercial sex totally. Trying to do that. Wish me luck. :(

Collin_23.....y r u thinking of retiring this nick?

U quiting this forum? Why?

I know this is may be irrelevant to this thread, but I would like to comment:

maybe there is no god. or if there is, shouldn't u fear him? Are u sure u want an all-powerful god watching over your shoulder all the time? Are u sure u like an all-powerful dictator to control your life???????

Why u r hurt? If there is a god, consider the possibility that it is not a benevolent entity. Perhaps god is sadistic and takes pleasure in inflicting pain upon his playthings. (Yes, I can hear religious devotees cringe at this point)

When u die, u may never find out. U won't find out if death is really the end and there is no consciousness beyond death.

Do ponder upon what I have said. I shan't say more because it is not really relevant to this thread.

[Darkstorm]

Started cheonging last yr around this time. I may talk like a heartless bastard here but deep down I cannot forget the 1st girl. A phone call away but nothing will come out of anything so I choose to lead separate lives, prefering not to contact. It gets worst at every night when here I am after a long and tiring day trying to sleep and my eyes accidentally 'bio' the hp besides me. Wish to have a new start maybe but at times will still poke my head here to kaypo abit.

As SC has said in another thread, the only way one gets free of 'worries' is the day when he quits commercial sex totally. Trying to do that. Wish me luck. :(


All the best to you in quitting commercial sex. Hope when u start your studies u can find a nice uni girl.

Hope to still see u around in the forum though :)

[collin_23]

Don't think I will ever fall in love. Haha.... :(

All the best to you in quitting commercial sex. Hope when u start your studies u can find a nice uni girl.

Hope to still see u around in the forum though :)

[Darkstorm]

Don't think I will ever fall in love. Haha.... :(

You are still young, so it is still possible :)

My advice to u is to find a nice uni girl. It is too late for me to do that now. But for u, I wish u all the best in your love life.

[thaigers]

Don't think I will ever fall in love. Haha.... :(

Ever since getting slightly emotionally involved with my regular who has gone back, my sex drive has been going down hill ever since. DO you experience this last time?

[collin_23]

I think I am now immune already. Have sex no feelings. Many times nowadays I f**k half way I will pause and think...what am I doing? :(

Think I understand abit how the WLs feel after sometimes. Haiz...

Ever since getting slightly emotionally involved with my regular who has gone back, my sex drive has been going down hill ever since. DO you experience this last time?

[collin_23]

Love is not a 1 way train. Always remember.

Cheers

[Mr.romance]

when u feel sianzz then its time to move on... there are babes aplenty on city of angels. kekeke
else you can always consider KIV-ing her. dun have to call her all the time when u are in bkk... only when you feel like it. then u can still hunt around.

Actually I am not sianz..I still had some form of feelings for my Tg..The biggest problem now is I still don trust her..So its tough to maintain such
untrustworthy relationship..

Will tell u full details of my story when we meet up for kopi one of these days.
BTW when are u meeting Keet again? If my schedule allows I really hope to join u guys

Cheers

[HellBoy Van]

Love is not a 1 way train. Always remember.

Cheers

LOVE IS A GAME
A GAME WITH PAIN
A GAME THAT HURTS

LOVE STARTS WITH ROMANCE
LOVE ENDS WITH SORROW

WHY LOVE WHEN ITS STING
WHY LOVE WHEN IT KILL

LOVE IS JUST ANOTHER GAME..............

[collin_23]

Haha....never treated it as a game. :cool:

LOVE IS A GAME
A GAME WITH PAIN
A GAME THAT HURTS

LOVE STARTS WITH ROMANCE
LOVE ENDS WITH SORROW

WHY LOVE WHEN ITS STING
WHY LOVE WHEN IT KILL

LOVE IS JUST ANOTHER GAME..............

[delifrance]

well, for Mr Romance, it's simple, just the words that I've repeated to you and they are true for all who brand themselves as 'cheongsters':

1) be brutally honest with yourself about why you are behaving this way
2) what is the worth of the attentions of a turtle? do u want to hunt eagles and other better quality animals?
3) how she behaves and what decisions she makes - does these make u worry? if so, do u want this kind of girl?
4) your ego and your dick-thinking (another even better round of sex with her the next time?) is making you get the tom yam goong, face yourself and admit it.

she knows the game and she's a thai, they love freedom. responsibility is only a word to be practised when you are with them. That's a turtle and that's their mentality.

any girl who has been working in Bangkok, they learn the tricks of the trade very very fast. they know that men hate to be ignored. That's the best torture for men.

whether it's a massage girl inviting you to her house to see her parents, etc. and whatever sort of stories, you are the toy. she is a toy. it's all about play and not being serious anyway. when she is serious, she is not serious the way you want her to be - the best i saw and ever thought about is - she stays at home and stays pretty for you while you sweat in the outside world to earn your bread and her bread. Sex and flattery for a man's ego may suffice for some but many find it hollow as time goes by and the excitement of a courtship dies down. A fire is best but how to keep the embers glowing when the time comes for the flames to go down and you have to keep the embers glowing?

[tirak69]

[QUOTE=Mr.romance]Actually I am not sianz..I still had some form of feelings for my Tg..The biggest problem now is I still don trust her..So its tough to maintain such
untrustworthy relationship..

Will tell u full details of my story when we meet up for kopi one of these days.
BTW when are u meeting Keet again? If my schedule allows I really hope to join u guys

Cheers[/QUOTE

give keet a call... and ask him to jio T69 and farark. we can then meet for kopi and swap stories... either in sg or bkk.

to say no feelings is fake one... once "repeat order" then sure got some feelings liao. if no then why "repeat order"??? key is whether can u be a hardened player and disregard the feelings you may have. else u will only get hurt eventually... you can do a survey... how many relationships with WL have happy endings... few and far in between. key is to diversify so you will be constantly distracted and not get too attached. time is a 2 edged sword... it can tell her true colors or make you fall deeper as you spend more time with her...

[adr77]

So y dun anyone start one survey like wat u says Mr Tirak, will be veri informative n interesting for all the brothers here incl myself.

[Mr.romance]

[QUOTE=Mr.romance]Actually I am not sianz..I still had some form of feelings for my Tg..The biggest problem now is I still don trust her..So its tough to maintain such
untrustworthy relationship..

Will tell u full details of my story when we meet up for kopi one of these days.
BTW when are u meeting Keet again? If my schedule allows I really hope to join u guys

Cheers[/QUOTE

give keet a call... and ask him to jio T69 and farark. we can then meet for kopi and swap stories... either in sg or bkk.

to say no feelings is fake one... once "repeat order" then sure got some feelings liao. if no then why "repeat order"??? key is whether can u be a hardened player and disregard the feelings you may have. else u will only get hurt eventually... you can do a survey... how many relationships with WL have happy endings... few and far in between. key is to diversify so you will be constantly distracted and not get too attached. time is a 2 edged sword... it can tell her true colors or make you fall deeper as you spend more time with her...

Well said bro..anyway i don expect mine to end up with sweet endings...I had even seen her true colors before...U are rite..Only time will tell ur future...
How I wish time can work forward..haha

BTW I was wondering usually when do u guys meet up..weekdays or weekends?..So I could plan my schedule..I may jio bro delifrance to come along also...

[thaigers]

Well said bro..anyway i don expect mine to end up with sweet endings...I had even seen her true colors before...U are rite..Only time will tell ur future...
How I wish time can work forward..haha

...

Mr Romance,

Do you know the background of your TG? Does she come from a good back ground? If she is/was not a WL, why do you have to worry so much? I personally know a TG (thai chinese) and she come from middle income family. Since i know her background very well, if I were to go into a relationship with her, I will say i will have no worries at all whether she will cheat on me etc. As with all relationship, u need trust. I believe it applies to all nationalities and not only to TG. Although here we keep saying how TG always lie. I will say this is not without truth, even for non WL TG.

[Mr.romance]

[Cheers[/QUOTE

give keet a call... and ask him to jio T69 and farark. we can then meet for kopi and swap stories... either in sg or bkk.

to say no feelings is fake one... once "repeat order" then sure got some feelings liao. if no then why "repeat order"??? key is whether can u be a hardened player and disregard the feelings you may have. else u will only get hurt eventually... you can do a survey... how many relationships with WL have happy endings... few and far in between. key is to diversify so you will be constantly distracted and not get too attached. time is a 2 edged sword... it can tell her true colors or make you fall deeper as you spend more time with her...[/QUOTE]

Hi Bro..Paiseh didnt get to meet up with u guys tonight..Tied down with work.
Really hope to meet up with u guys to swap stories one of these days..

I seriously wana trained to be like u guys especially Bro keet who are so cool
& Steady emotionally.Guess my heart is too soft So had to pay more school fees..

[keet]

Hi Bro..Paiseh didnt get to meet up with u guys tonight..Tied down with work.
Really hope to meet up with u guys to swap stories one of these days..

I seriously wana trained to be like u guys especially Bro keet who are so cool
& Steady emotionally.Guess my heart is too soft So had to pay more school fees..[/QUOTE]
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bro.. everyone has to pay to learn.. no exception for me also... and was still paying for awhile even after i moved back to sg.. :o
how many times after each r/s that one says enuf is enuf but.. u just fall into it again and again.. :D

[cyrus]

Hi Bro..Paiseh didnt get to meet up with u guys tonight..Tied down with work.
Really hope to meet up with u guys to swap stories one of these days..

I seriously wana trained to be like u guys especially Bro keet who are so cool
& Steady emotionally.Guess my heart is too soft So had to pay more school fees..
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bro.. everyone has to pay to learn.. no exception for me also... and was still paying for awhile even after i moved back to sg.. :o
how many times after each r/s that one says enuf is enuf but.. u just fall into it again and again.. :D[/QUOTE]

Same here loh, once you kenah voodoo, just can't get enough .. too addicted.

[collin_23]

sex is addictive.... ;)

[delifrance]

Quitting the commercial sex scene? When you play with turtles, you get all these. When you play with other higher types of animals, you get different stories, eagles rank at the top of the animal kingdom when it comes to cheonging.

But then again, hunting eagles and playing with eagles require a different set of skills and mentality...and of course the responsibility of taking care of the eagle when you finally hunt it down.

1) what is the value of a WL's attention and flattery to you?
2) what a woman gives you? headaches and worries or motivation?
3) sexual skills can be trained, how far are you going when you want to train an eagle?

Turtles actually are bored of sex. After the courtship period, take a look at how they treat you in bed (assuming that you do not give or pay her money at each encounter, be it money for expenses or money for the sex), take a deep look with your mind thinking about how the sex starts in bed and how she may be reluctant or lazy and finally get into the foreplay and sex.

another thing is....turtles are used to sex and in short periods they do long for sex. that's why people are confused about this.

[Titans]

Been to this forum a lot of times, always in "Guest" mode. Just signed up this ID a couple days ago.

I would not consider myself a lao jiao but do have my fair share of BKK cheong experience. Reading the book really make draw a lot parallel with my own experiences. It is so difficult to differeniate what is right from wrong, the line is so damn thin. No matter what your friends might say ultimately you will do what you want to do, only to regret it later. After the wounds heal you are back at it again. It is such a viscious cycle. When does it ends? Well according to book, only when PETE dies! Geesz! scary. Hope all bros here dont end up this way. Too tragic!

[delifrance]

Hi all

I think the lyrics of the song: Faith, by George Michael sums up what I would term - THE FEELING that hits many people when they go "cheonging" and cheoning in LOS. I remember the key phrase: they treat you like a lover, they treat you like a boyfriend.....

but then again, the treatment is not for long, it's only courtship treatment. Repeated courtship treatment dulls and fades away like the silver moon when the golden sun comes....reality comes.

Not sure if people from other countries like Latin America, Vietnam, Japan, Taiwan, China, etc treat "cheongsters" and cheongsters like the way Thai ladies treat their boys....

"Turtles, Eagles and the Animal Kingdom"



Faith
George Michael

Well
I guess it would be nice if I could touch your body

I know not everybody has got a body like you.
But I've got to think twice before I give my heart away

And I know all the games you play because I played them
too.

Oh
but I need some time ofF from that emotion

Time to pick my heart up off the floor.
Oh
when that love comes down without devotion

Well
it takes a strong man
baby

but I'm showins you the door.

Because I've got to have faith
I've got to have faith

Because I've got to have faith
faith
faith

I've got to have faith
faith
faith.

Baby
I know you're asking me to stay

Stay
please
please
please
don't go away.
You say I'm giving you the blues.
Maybe you mean every word you say

Can't help but think of yesterday

And another who tied me down to loverboy rules.

Before this river becomes an ocean

Before you throw my heart back on the floor

Oh baby
I reconsider my foolish notion

Well
I need someone to hold me
but I'll wait for something more.

Yes
I've got to have faith
I've got to have faith
. . .

Before this river becomes an ocean
. . .
'Cause I've got to have faith
I've got to have faith
. . .

[collin_23]

http://zoukclub.net/mylove.htm

Enjoy. ^_^

ps: Not sexual one. Hope to brighten your day. :)

[tirak69]

http://zoukclub.net/mylove.htm

Enjoy. ^_^

ps: Not sexual one. Hope to brighten your day. :)

nice flash clip. very "narak" indeed. *clap* *clap* :D

[collin_23]

:) Glad u enjoy it.

nice flash clip. very "narak" indeed. *clap* *clap* :D

[Mr.romance]

Hi All,

In order not to allow this thread to go to 2nd Page, I had a story to tell.
BTW I still like this thread as I learned alot from here.THks to all laojiao
bros for all the contribution.

Called up my TG jus now.Got a scolding from her after I asked her about her working place. She told me off by saying " If you don trust me, Don call me
anymore". She hanged up on me after I tried to pacify her. Just had this feeling tat she is playing games with me.Bro Delifrance will know the whole story very well.Funny thing is I shall feel upset by the whole thing, but I don feel a single thing at all even til now.

Bro Vauxms, I sms you yesterday night but u didnt reply...

Cheers

[thaigers]

Hi All,

In order not to allow this thread to go to 2nd Page, I had a story to tell.
BTW I still like this thread as I learned alot from here.THks to all laojiao
bros for all the contribution.

Called up my TG jus now.Got a scolding from her after I asked her about her working place. She told me off by saying " If you don trust me, Don call me
anymore". She hanged up on me after I tried to pacify her. Just had this feeling tat she is playing games with me.Bro Delifrance will know the whole story very well.Funny thing is I shall feel upset by the whole thing, but I don feel a single thing at all even til now.

Bro Vauxms, I sms you yesterday night but u didnt reply...

Cheers

Ask about work place also cannot ah....this kind of girl why u still want. what has asking about workplace got to do with trust? Ask her go and fly kite lah.

[Mr.romance]

Ask about work place also cannot ah....this kind of girl why u still want. what has asking about workplace got to do with trust? Ask her go and fly kite lah.

For ur info..I had tried to check on her working place quite a few times.
So she is smart enough to suspect tat I don trust her.I don blame her.
Maybe I am not smart enough for this game.Like I say, Its a game whereby TG like to play.

[collin_23]

game? I rather play monopoly......still got chance. :D

For ur info..I had tried to check on her working place quite a few times.
So she is smart enough to suspect tat I don trust her.I don blame her.
Maybe I am not smart enough for this game.Like I say, Its a game whereby TG like to play.

[thaigers]

For ur info..I had tried to check on her working place quite a few times.
So she is smart enough to suspect tat I don trust her.I don blame her.
Maybe I am not smart enough for this game.Like I say, Its a game whereby TG like to play.

what kind of TG is this?? The TG i have (a middle class thai chinese) dont even play any games with me.

I think this thread refers to WL TG, not mormal TG. If your TG likes to play games, maybe she is a part time WL.